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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2021, 07:06:59 AM »
Nice build recap and excellent work Jim.
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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2021, 06:29:20 PM »
Thanks for the replies.

The chrome trim is removable, it is held down with square shaped speed nuts. I bought the retainers from a local Ace Hardware store. I had the trim rechromed from a local place here in Vegas.

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« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2021, 11:20:41 PM »
Thanks for the replies.

The chrome trim is removable, it is held down with square shaped speed nuts. I bought the retainers from a local Ace Hardware store. I had the trim rechromed from a local place here in Vegas.

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« Reply #43 on: June 26, 2021, 09:55:54 AM »
I think they are who I contacted about doing my 57's Bumpers, I am gonna need to mortgage my house to get all the chrome on that thing done lol.
The fresh chrome looks amazing though!
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« Reply #44 on: July 17, 2021, 10:03:49 PM »
A few weeks back I picked up the car from the paint shop and was real happy to get it back in my shop. I was very impressed with the paint job. Turned out fantastic. I have to give a ton of credit to my painter . The Mazda Color is a lot harder to spray than was originally anticipated. If you search different videos  on how to apply it you can see what a challenge it can be.












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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #44 on: July 17, 2021, 10:03:49 PM »

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« Reply #45 on: July 17, 2021, 10:18:32 PM »
One of the things I was really impressed with was the body work and fitment of the Endura bumper. As most already know they look great, but can be a real pain when it comes to fitment and refinishing. This one fit probably better than it ever had in the past. Again my painter did a great job on the body work and paint.

I installed the grills that I restored and they fit pretty good. I used the factory measurements for the PONTIAC emblem and 400 emblem. I also installed the headlights, I used LED headlamps in place of the stock bulbs. They pretty much fit like the stock headlamps but obviously are brighter. .

I also installed the fender emblems and the grills on the hood scoops.
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« Reply #46 on: July 17, 2021, 10:34:30 PM »
Today I finished up installing the tail panel, spoilers and tail light housings. They install easy enough but it did take some time getting them adjusted to make a decent fit. To be honest , with a car that is a hairs breath away from 50 years old, I was happy with how it turned out.  I tested out the lights and they all worked as they should.  Tomorrow I am going to reassemble the bumper and install it.
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« Reply #47 on: July 18, 2021, 05:08:09 AM »
Jim,

The body and paint is spectacular, just beautiful. Really every aspect of this car looks great. You certainly raise the bar for everyone else.

This point in the build must be lots of fun, assembling nice clean shiny parts.

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« Reply #48 on: July 18, 2021, 05:31:54 AM »
Very nice work and that paint job is a killer.




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« Reply #49 on: July 18, 2021, 09:20:40 PM »
Thanks for the replies!
I got the rear bumper installed today. This bumper had “Bumper Guards” installed from the factory. Fortunately the rubber trim on them was restorable. The bumper mounted and fit really well. As a preventative measure, I placed bubble wrap type padding around the edges so I would not scratch the paint. Originally my idea was to use masking tape around the edges, honestly didn’t really have much confidence with the tape and I didn’t want to take a risk.  This method worked out really well. I was installing the bumper myself so I took my time was careful in the process.
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« Reply #50 on: July 18, 2021, 09:28:00 PM »
I also mounted the lock cylinder today as well. Before installed them I sanded smooth the opening where the lock cylinder gets mounted. Basically to remove the paint edge build up around the openings edges. A few years ago I found out how paint can chip around the opening when you install the lock cylinder. Small preventative measures really are worth the extra time to prevent chips and scratched during the re assembly process.
I also installed the window sills  in the door. They went in real easy and again I was careful installing them as not to chip or scratch the paint.

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« Reply #51 on: July 19, 2021, 07:02:48 AM »
I cant add anything else about great your car looks. Nice to be putting trim on. At this rate I think you will have your 77 finished before I get my motor back!
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« Reply #52 on: July 19, 2021, 09:45:34 PM »
At some point or another I went over the paperwork from PHS on this car. This was after I started restoring this one . I was total king about the bumper guards to another Firebird guy. I was told that wasn’t the correct bumper for the car. I was told they were a 73 year only option. Later, that is when I went through the paperwork and sure enough it was an option on this car. I also found it in the assembly manual also.
I also realized this was a kinda different car as well. Originally, it was an Espirit , Revere Silver, black vinyl top, and blue deluxe interior.  It did have the 400 2 barrel and dual exhaust. Also had the turbo400 trans with a 3.08 posi rear. There were not very many Espirt Firebirds with that option,  basically more of a formula car.
When I bought it it had a formula hood and honey comb rims, obviously they were added on at a later point in life.  At one point someone added the rear spoiler also. Basically, this one will be a formula clone you could say.

Today I started with the door weatherstrip and side view mirrors. I’m going to start doing the door internals.
The window alignment will be a pain but I’m going to use a set of alignment blocks and see how that works out. I bought a set of tinkled window from All City glass. The glass looks pretty good and won’t to to have film tint put on.

I also have a set of 17” Honeycomb rims I got from Year One. I really like the way they look on the early Firebirds.

It’s pretty hot this time of year in Vegas so that is really testing my stamina on progress but I really am enjoying the work on this one so far.

Jim
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« Reply #53 on: July 19, 2021, 09:50:34 PM »
I cant add anything else about great your car looks. Nice to be putting trim on. At this rate I think you will have your 77 finished before I get my motor back!

Thanks! I’m sure you will be quite happy to get your motor back soon! Always like seeing the progress on your Trans Am!
Jim
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« Reply #54 on: July 20, 2021, 06:56:35 AM »
I complain about the heat (and humidity) in MD and not feeling like doing any work. And it has only been in the high 90's. I imagine thats your cool temp this time of year, But you have a dry heat! LOL

Years ago I knew a guy that had lived in Phoenix. When talking about the heat we would say, 'yeah its hot there but you dont have humidity'.  His reply was 'yea, its a dry heat but 120 is 120. Go stick your head in the oven for a minute and tell me if its dry or not'.
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« Reply #55 on: July 27, 2021, 10:10:48 PM »
 Ive been making progress and so far so good. I put the new tires and rims on. I went with 17” Honeycombs from Year One. I chose a set of Nitto 245/50/17’s tires. I’m pretty happy with the look. I have a set of 15” Honeycomb rims but decided to use them on my 71 Firebird. I also installed the lower valance panel as well as the turn lamps. I started installing the door internals and power window motors.
One thing I am looking forward to is using the window gauge blocks I got awhile back. I am hoping they work to shorten the window alignment process. I also got a set of tinted window from All City glass.
The new motors and regulators worked pretty well I cleaned the originals and re lubricated them.
Hopefully all will continue to go well, I am looking forward to installing the interior. After the window I am going to install the bow type headliner. Hopefully this will go well too.
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« Reply #56 on: July 27, 2021, 11:09:57 PM »
Wow.  Look's like it should be parked inside of the LVCC in late October.

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« Reply #57 on: July 27, 2021, 11:16:11 PM »
Thanks! Hopefully the interior will go well too!
Jim
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« Reply #58 on: August 11, 2021, 12:37:35 AM »
Over the last few weeks I’ve managed to get most of the remaining exterior trim items installed including the side glass and exhaust tips.
I used tinted glass windows from AutoCity Glass. I was very happy with the fitment and quality of the glass. It fits very well and I had no issues whatsoever. The glass is tinted a light gray which I really like. It isn’t film tint but tinted when it’s is manufactured. AutoCity is a good company to deal with. The quality is excellent and customer service is excellent as well. They have pretty decent prices and shipping is quick and reasonable.
I was able to re use the original hardware for the glass. I did clean it  up and re lubricate the rollers. One product I found that works great is “SilGlide” . It is a lubricant sold at Napa. It works very well for the rollers and tracks.  I installed the inner window tracks and guides. Another tip, especially if your glass is tinted with film is to tape off the upper inner door edge. This offers some protection from unwanted scratches when installing the  door glass.  I bought a nut roller tool  to install the hardware on the glass . I got it from NPD and it worked very good . I also used LocTite to ensure nothing came loose.

 











Installing the door glass is pretty easy. The technique is to insert the glass at an angle lining up the rollers into the tracks. Once the rollers are lined into the tracks the glass goes in pretty easy. I recommend taking your time and ensuring the rollers stay in the tracks . You do have to pay attention to the hardware mounted on the window itself. In can snag the outer door rubber sweep. Just make sure it doesn’t tear or damage the outer sweep. I used a popsicle  stick to move it clear enough not to get caught up. Once the window is in the tracks you simply  bolt it to the horizontal track and next step is to align the windows.











I have power windows,  so before installing the glass I had to ensure the motors worked properly. I installed new motors and they worked very well. I modified  the switch and power supply to the motors by incorporating relay switches to the motors. The relays actually serve as a secondary switch to provide direct battery power to the motors. The relays close and open based on the the power window switches and simply take the current load and voltage loss off the switch. This gives improved power to the motors and the windows go up and down a bit quicker with a bit more strength.

Several months back, Gene73, made up a file to have the unobtainable window alignment blocks 3D printed. I had a set made and they work great. Gene it’s now the Patron Saint of window alignment! These alignment blocks made the window alignment so much easier!! The window alignment really only took me about 15-20 minutes. Truthfully, only a few minor adjustments were needed. Window alignment can be brutal and painful.
One thing I would suggest, remove the side view mirrors before usin the alignment blocks. The vertical guide block may interfere with the side mirror. This happened to me, put a scratch on the side view mirror. Fortunately, I was able to send it to my painted and he can correct that.










A very good reference  to use is from the Fisher Body Manual, specifically it gives guidance on making any alignment adjustments.
Once I was done, I installed the roof rail weatherstrip. Initially, I used the Soft Seal brand which I really didn’t like. It is a lot more firm than stock weather strip and I didn’t really care for it. The other Soft Seal weather strip I used did work well in other areas but not on the roof rail. I ended up buying a latex rubber set from the Parts Place. The latex roof rail seals worked much better, similar to stock weatherstrip. They were also more expensive but i was really happy with the decision to use them. Once the weather strip was installed I only had to make some very minor adjustments to obtain an excellent fit.
An important note to keep in mind close the door SLOWLY! Make sure the glass doesn’t catch on any trim. Any kind of interference can shatter the window.





This car has the chrome trim along the doors. I used new plastic retainers and the door trim installed quite well. I added the other trim pieces on the hood and front fenders. I used a small smear of Sil Glide on the edges off the fenders and hood. They slide on snug and firm. Using the Sil Glide kept the metal trim from scratching the paint.





Lastly, I attached the exhaust tips. This was pretty quick and easy job. They fit just as good as to be expected.






With exception of front and rear glass, the outside is pretty much done. So now I start working on interior stuff. I am getting ready to install the headliner which is a bow type headliner. I’m sure this will be a little challenging because it requires more installation time than a shell type headliner. I am real happy with the progress so far and I am looking forward to working on the interior. Getting really close to being back on the road for the first time since 1996!
Jim


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« Reply #59 on: August 11, 2021, 03:37:19 AM »
Very good progress and nice job aligning the glass.




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« Reply #60 on: August 11, 2021, 05:41:16 AM »
I'm curious about the bumper guards. I have  the same problem with mine on the 73 I'm doing.
Did you find a source for the rubber insert strips?
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« Reply #61 on: August 11, 2021, 05:55:04 AM »
Another thing I'm doing is glass installation. Is there a source around to purchase a set of window alignment blocks for
a 73 Transam?
Thanks again,
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« Reply #62 on: August 11, 2021, 11:12:34 PM »
One thing I would suggest, remove the side view mirrors before using the alignment blocks. The vertical guide block may interfere with the side mirror. This happened to me, put a scratch on the side view mirror. Fortunately, I was able to send it to my painted and he can correct that.

Excellent write-up and photos Jim! Although I believe the service manual says to mount the vertical (red) gauge block inboard. Sounds like you had yours pointing outboard which is why there was interference with the side mirror. The resulting window alignment is probably going to be same either way you mount the block but pointing away from the mirrors is the important part. Sorry to hear you damaged your paint. BTW, your car is sporting my new favorite color on a second gen.  8-)
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« Reply #63 on: August 11, 2021, 11:20:42 PM »
Another thing I'm doing is glass installation. Is there a source around to purchase a set of window alignment blocks for
a 73 Transam?
Thanks again,
Darryl

Darryl, you can download the files from Thingiverse (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4576213) and either print yourself, or find a friend with a 3D printer, or use an online service.
Original thread is gone but this one has some of the information - http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=83504.0
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« Reply #64 on: August 12, 2021, 05:46:26 AM »
Your car is really coming together now. Those little 3D printed pieces for the windows are really neat. Color looks amazing!

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« Reply #65 on: August 12, 2021, 08:14:23 AM »
Another thing I'm doing is glass installation. Is there a source around to purchase a set of window alignment blocks for
a 73 Transam?
Thanks again,
Darryl

If you are willing to pay the shipping each way (about $15 total) I have a set I can lend.  I found mine on Etsy of all places; the vendor would most likely print out a set if you asked.

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« Reply #66 on: August 12, 2021, 11:15:30 PM »
One thing I would suggest, remove the side view mirrors before using the alignment blocks. The vertical guide block may interfere with the side mirror. This happened to me, put a scratch on the side view mirror. Fortunately, I was able to send it to my painted and he can correct that.

Excellent write-up and photos Jim! Although I believe the service manual says to mount the vertical (red) gauge block inboard. Sounds like you had yours pointing outboard which is why there was interference with the side mirror. The resulting window alignment is probably going to be same either way you mount the block but pointing away from the mirrors is the important part. Sorry to hear you damaged your paint. BTW, your car is sporting my new favorite color on a second gen.  8-)

That is something that I overlooked. I’m glad you brought that up because it does make sense. Thanks a lot for the info you provided in previous posts, it was very helpful for sure!
Jim
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« Reply #67 on: August 13, 2021, 11:53:08 PM »
I installed the headliner yesterday and today. It was a bow type headliner and I really liked how they look.. Took about 8 hours total but I like how it turned out. I’m posting a thread on how I did it in the interior section. Not real hard to do but took some time in prepping and installing the headliner.

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« Reply #68 on: August 14, 2021, 04:34:20 AM »
Nice job and thank you for the detailed post.




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« Reply #69 on: August 14, 2021, 06:23:26 AM »
I always thought there was an art to installing bow type head liners. It looks great just like the rest of your car!
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« Reply #70 on: August 14, 2021, 08:53:29 AM »
Very nice work!
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« Reply #71 on: August 14, 2021, 10:27:24 PM »
Wow! I'm just seeing the new paint now...Spectacular!
What a beautiful car. I love Formula's, and that color is amazing.  Congrats on the progress.
I was in Vegas a few weeks ago I love it out there. We had the best time exploring the desert and mountains. Hot as hell, but I really like that part of the country.
Looking forward to seeing some pics of this thing down on its wheels out in the sunlight. It's a beaut.

Tom
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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #72 on: August 24, 2021, 07:37:47 AM »
I should get you to put my car back together!!!

It would look amazing and be done before Christmas!!!

Love it!!
Love the colour choice!!
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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #73 on: August 24, 2021, 09:07:02 AM »
Color looks amazing, great work going on I love it.

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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #74 on: September 10, 2021, 09:17:29 PM »
Over the last few weeks I have made more progress on the 72. I installed the dash and the associated stuff that goes along with it it. This took longer than I planned but everything turned out quite well.  I dry fitted the dash a couple of times to check fitment and game plan the radio, gauges, and air ducts for the heat and AC.
I went with the Vintage Air Sure Fit AC system. To be honest everything seemed to fit and function quite well. I really thought that would be a challenge but as it turned out , it was pretty straightforward.
For the radio I used a system from RetroSound . They do make a good radio unit and it mounts different than traditional post radios ( stock style), but it does fit well into the original opening. RetroSound also makes a mounting platform to install their radio for a opening that has been cut out. For speakers I used speakers from RetroSound, one 4x10 dual speaker in the dash and two 6x9 speakers in the rear. This setup really produces a great sound and the installation was simple and easy, no amplifiers or additional components. The RetroSound radio has a stock appearance but has Bluetooth, outputs for XM, Aux outputs and pre amp outputs also.  The under dash speaker in the front actually serves as two speakers in one.







After putting in the radio, I mounted the cigar lighter bracket and the control unit, and center vents for the AC. Nothing really complex here .



For the wipers I went with a unit from Raingear wipers. This is a pretty neat variation from stock. The wiper motor mounts behind the cowl leaving more space under the hood. The difference in mounting to the dash , is that a rotary type switch is used in place of the stock wiper slider type switch. This also has a delay function for the wiper as well as low and high speed function. The headlamp switch was installed according as well, with one exception, it is turned 180 degrees to provide clearance with the wiper switch.

No now came time to install the bezel and gauges. The bezel was restored by Randy Combs, and his work is really exceptional. For gauges I used Dakota Digital HDX gauges. I really like their gauges , great quality and function. Shortly after I ordered those gauges they came out with the RTX series that have a great resemblance to factory gauges. Had I wanted a few more weeks I would have gone with the RTX  gauges, but I really like the HDX gauges.
The dash was restored by Just Dashes . They did a great job restoring the original dash. However two issues that I tackled at this point. First the bezel is a tight fit into the das, simply because it was restored back to original condition. After a few dry fits it seated in place very good. The second issue was Dakota Digital recommends installing the gauges to the bezel and then install the bezel into the dash. Honestly this is a difficult way to do it. What I did was install the bezel and then mount the gauges to the bezel . That seem to work better.  I have to add that during this entire process, I did have to make adjustments to get everything to fit really good. That did take a few  trial and error making small fitment adjustments. When it was finished I was very happy with the appearance and function.











I installed the real shelf and speakers and I did have have to trim the original speaker cut outs to fit the new speakers. This job is a piece of cake not having the rear window in place.







This week I have started installing the carpet and I have got quite a bit done on that but like everything else, it takes time to get it just right.  I am anxious to get this car back on the road again and start driving it, but I am also reminding myself to keep a steady pace and get it right the first time.

Jim

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1972 LeMans Convertible
1977 Trans Am
1972 Firebird
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1968 Lemans Converible
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1971 Firebird
1977 MGB  Roadster Convertible

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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #75 on: September 11, 2021, 05:31:49 PM »
Very nice. Gauge cluster turned out great!
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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #76 on: September 11, 2021, 06:38:50 PM »
X2 real nice I like the gauges.




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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #77 on: September 12, 2021, 06:36:49 AM »
Jim, Im not sure if you were around back when Leigh P was building his formula, but I think your work and attention to detail mirrors some of the stuff he did. That is a compliment in the highest regard. I dont think that its a coincidence that you both work/worked in the aviation industry.
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79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
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82 Firebird - Sold
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'66-BSA Lightning
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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #78 on: September 13, 2021, 12:34:51 AM »
Jim, Im not sure if you were around back when Leigh P was building his formula, but I think your work and attention to detail mirrors some of the stuff he did. That is a compliment in the highest regard. I dont think that its a coincidence that you both work/worked in the aviation industry.
Leigh did an amazing job on his 71 Firebird. In fact I think many of our members have done great work on these cars. Kerry you have been one of this guys that have done great work too. I joined in 2013 , shortly after getting my 79 Trans Am. Getting that car and joining TAC is the main reason I have learned so much since then.

I hope that we can continue to keep growing the knowledge base on TAC to help others out with their Firebirds. Definitely one of the best resources for them!
Jim
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1972 LeMans Convertible
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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #79 on: September 16, 2021, 03:31:32 AM »
Over the last several days I was able to get the carpet, rear quarter and sail panels installed. The carpet installed pretty well although I did use a steam machine to get it to lay down easier. I bought a McCoullough steam cleaner last winter and it really makes carpet installation much easier.  The most time consuming part was getting the carpet in place and making holes for the seatbelt bolts and seat track bolts. When I made the initial holes for the bolts I used an old soldering iron to clean the openings up a bit. This method works great and makes a nice clean opening that will not fray.
Since I was using an aftermarket console I chose to use a vinyl boot for the stick shift. The boot I used was from Lokar .
After I got the carpet in place I trim it to fit and then installed the interior panels. Everything fit in place fairly well with minimal issues. I installed the rear seat belts and the the rear seat.
I found a set of should harness retainers in my parts stash and this was a lucky find. I had to re dye them but the slipped in nice and work great to retain the shoulder harnesses.
I really had no issues with the interior, just something that takes time and patience.
I got the trunk mat installed but still have yet to get it in place with no wrinkles. It is the vinyl mat with the houndstooth trim.

With only the from seats and several other items to install the interior is close to being finished.

Jim




















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1977 MGB  Roadster Convertible

Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #79 on: September 16, 2021, 03:31:32 AM »
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