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1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« on: March 23, 2021, 10:34:38 AM »
I started my project thread back in 2011.  The only page I can pull up from the Wayback Machine is the first page, so I'll duplicate what I had there and start over going forward.  Lots of information in the original 5 pages.  I'm hopeful they will someday be restored to TAC.

So this was my very first post in the project section on November 1st 2011:

I've been meaning to start a thread over here on my car for a number of years, but never got around to it.  If anyone is interested, I can post the complete history of the car some time.  Its actually quite interesting.  But here’s the short version.  I bought the car back in 1986 with a NOM 455, repaint, missing some parts like the HO carb, heads, exhaust manifolds, shaker solenoids, etc, but overall in good driver condition for $1,900.  I went through a few iterations of engines and played with the car for several years at the local drag strip.

About 10 years ago, I finally decided I should bring the car back to its original glory some day and started accumulating correct HO parts including a SR block, heads, mint dashboard, correct interior parts, etc.  About 6 years ago, I started disassembling the car and rebuilding items as I went along.  To date, the transmission, engine, front subframe, front suspension, and some other little parts have been rebuilt.  I obviously still have a long way to go.  Starting this thread will hopefully keep me moving forward on the project and finally getting her back on the road again."
1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am (455HO, Automatic) - currently my project car.
Previously Owned TA's/Musclecars: 2002 Pewter WS6/M6 Trans Am, 1968 Dodge Superbee 383/4speed,  1975 TA 455/4speed, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/5speed, 1980 TA Indy Pace Car, 1977 TA 400/Auto, 1989 GTA 350TPI, 1990 GTA 350TPI, 1986 IROC 305TPI, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/Auto, 1993 Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (and probably a few I've forgotten about)

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2021, 04:18:03 PM »
Here's a few pics of the '71 from back in the day.

1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am (455HO, Automatic) - currently my project car.
Previously Owned TA's/Musclecars: 2002 Pewter WS6/M6 Trans Am, 1968 Dodge Superbee 383/4speed,  1975 TA 455/4speed, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/5speed, 1980 TA Indy Pace Car, 1977 TA 400/Auto, 1989 GTA 350TPI, 1990 GTA 350TPI, 1986 IROC 305TPI, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/Auto, 1993 Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (and probably a few I've forgotten about)

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2021, 09:01:43 PM »
Zombie thread!  I like it! 
What a great car...I'll be honest and say the white on blue color combo is my least fav of the early second Gens.  But, anything with 'H.O.' in it is inherently cool.   You mentioned the interesting history. Can we get like a Readers Digest version? (I can't that just came out of my head...Sounds old!).   If you bought the car in '86...You know... I'll leave it to you to demonstrate what a "Readers Digest verision" of a story might be. LOL.

 
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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2021, 08:39:47 AM »
Chief,

I am a big fan of all 2nd generation Firebirds, especially 1970-1973. Probably because my first was a 1973 TA bought new. I can’t wait for you to post more on this car!
1980 T/A with a Pontiac 461

Gone but not forgotten;
1973 T/A 455
1975 T/A 400
1978 T/A W72
1982 T/A cross fire injected

Two wheel toys;
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2013 Honda CB1100
2010 Yamaha Vmax
1982 Yamaha Seca 750

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2022, 03:41:45 PM »
Ok, time to start updating this thread again.   Here's a little history on the car. As stated earlier I purchased her back in 1986, shortly after moving to Arizona.  Long story short, I wanted a Trans Am and settled on this one.  I always knew it was rare and special and never sold it.  The car has not been on the road since 1992.  And even before then sat for a long time in between driving it.  The reality is I never truly have enjoyed this car as much more than a pipe dream.  So here we are in 2022 and it finally has come back to life once again.  Maybe in the next few months it'll actually be registered and driving on the road!!!

So here's the story in pictures:

Here she is in the garage about 15 years ago.  Since I had purchased the car in 1986 in Arizona, and it had been in AZ since the 70's I had always wrongly assumed it to be a mostly rust free car.  Boy was I surprised at what lingered under that paint!





1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am (455HO, Automatic) - currently my project car.
Previously Owned TA's/Musclecars: 2002 Pewter WS6/M6 Trans Am, 1968 Dodge Superbee 383/4speed,  1975 TA 455/4speed, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/5speed, 1980 TA Indy Pace Car, 1977 TA 400/Auto, 1989 GTA 350TPI, 1990 GTA 350TPI, 1986 IROC 305TPI, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/Auto, 1993 Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (and probably a few I've forgotten about)

Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2022, 03:41:45 PM »

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2022, 03:56:25 PM »
From the previous pictures you can see it looked like a solid car.  It was pretty much complete, but a lot of small parts were long gone or changed out.  I stripped her down over the years and rebuilt the engine, the suspension, the rear end...pretty much a full nut and bolt resto.  Here are some more pics of the process.

I had the rear end gone through and added an aftermarket set of rear disc brakes from the Right Stuff.

Rear end, before:


After:


1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am (455HO, Automatic) - currently my project car.
Previously Owned TA's/Musclecars: 2002 Pewter WS6/M6 Trans Am, 1968 Dodge Superbee 383/4speed,  1975 TA 455/4speed, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/5speed, 1980 TA Indy Pace Car, 1977 TA 400/Auto, 1989 GTA 350TPI, 1990 GTA 350TPI, 1986 IROC 305TPI, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/Auto, 1993 Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (and probably a few I've forgotten about)

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2022, 04:12:33 PM »
Front subframe removed from car:


Front Subframe Rebuilt:


Here's the steering shaft resto:
Before:


Sandblasted:


Done:
1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am (455HO, Automatic) - currently my project car.
Previously Owned TA's/Musclecars: 2002 Pewter WS6/M6 Trans Am, 1968 Dodge Superbee 383/4speed,  1975 TA 455/4speed, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/5speed, 1980 TA Indy Pace Car, 1977 TA 400/Auto, 1989 GTA 350TPI, 1990 GTA 350TPI, 1986 IROC 305TPI, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/Auto, 1993 Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (and probably a few I've forgotten about)

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2022, 04:21:44 PM »
Car loaded on the rotisserie and ready to go to the sandblaster:


Back from the sandblaster:


What's up with that rear 1/4 panel?????!!!!!


Same 1/4 before sandblasting.  There was a lot of bondo hiding a lot of damage on this one!



1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am (455HO, Automatic) - currently my project car.
Previously Owned TA's/Musclecars: 2002 Pewter WS6/M6 Trans Am, 1968 Dodge Superbee 383/4speed,  1975 TA 455/4speed, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/5speed, 1980 TA Indy Pace Car, 1977 TA 400/Auto, 1989 GTA 350TPI, 1990 GTA 350TPI, 1986 IROC 305TPI, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/Auto, 1993 Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (and probably a few I've forgotten about)

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2022, 04:26:39 PM »
No disassemble!




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1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am (455HO, Automatic) - currently my project car.
Previously Owned TA's/Musclecars: 2002 Pewter WS6/M6 Trans Am, 1968 Dodge Superbee 383/4speed,  1975 TA 455/4speed, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/5speed, 1980 TA Indy Pace Car, 1977 TA 400/Auto, 1989 GTA 350TPI, 1990 GTA 350TPI, 1986 IROC 305TPI, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/Auto, 1993 Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (and probably a few I've forgotten about)

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2022, 04:55:39 PM »
A little more backstory taken from the old thread on the Wayback Machine.


Background history of my ’71  (at least from about ‘83ish to 2011)

I had just moved to Phoenix from Tennessee back in ’86.  I had sold my much beloved ’68 Dodge Superbee before moving out to the desert and was seriously missing the power of a good old American V8, having a ’77 VW Scirocco as my daily driver.  I had friends back in Tennessee who owned a ’73 firebird and a ’74 firebird and I always had loved the Trans Ams.  So I started looking for a TA.  My first choice was a ’70-‘73 with my second choice being a ‘77-‘79 4 speed car.  I had about $2,500 to spend, but that also included money for registration, insurance and any maintenance the car might need.  At this time Trans Ams were still very reasonably priced, especially the early cars.  I found several to choose from, with a ‘71 lucerne blue automatic TA being listed for sale at $2200, a ’78 4 speed Martinique blue TA for sale for $2,500, and a ’71 Cameo white 4 speed TA listed at $3,500.  The $3,500 car was out of my price range.  To bad, because it was the nicest of the three and from what I remember was numbers matching and a 4 speed!  All of these cars had around 100k miles on them.

I opted for the blue ’71 since the price was right having negotiated it down to $1,900, and it was road ready with new tires, brakes, non-original rebuilt 455 under the hood, maintenance records from the owner and only minor visible rust around the rear wheelwells.  The interior was clean, ableit a bit worn from age and the Arizona sun.  When I got it home I started digging into the records to find out what had happened to the original engine.  It appears the previous owner had the car for about 5 or so years.  According to the receipts and work orders he provided, he started having issues with the car running correctly.  The first thing to go was the carburetor, which was replaced with a local parts store rebuild.   If only the guy had simply had his HO carb rebuilt at the time instead of swapping it.  Next was a complete tuneup of plugs, wires etc.  Apparently this still didn’t fix the issues as the next remedy was replacement of the entire engine with a remanufactured engine from Lopers performance in Phoenix.  Of course what they put under the hood wasn’t anything like what they took out.  The replacement engine was a 2 bolt main, big car 455 with small valve 1.96/1.66 heads, probably cast number 98 .  I don’t remember the cast number or year, but did look it up back in the day recall it being like a ’71 to ’73 block.   Luckily the aluminum intake was still on top of the engine, although it had been stripped of paint.

I came to one of two conclusions.  The first conclusion being far less nefarious, than the second.  Given that the muscle car boom hadn’t started quite yet, and the fact that people back then often simply replaced their blown engines with “crate” type replacements, perhaps the previous owner simply chose the most expeditious route to getting his beloved Trans Am back on the road.  He may not have understood the significance of the HO under the hood, and figured a 455 was a 455.  Couple this with a repair facility that probably looked at a “new” engine from Lopers as a selling point and we have an engine swap for what was probably a perfectly rebuildable 455 HO.  For some reason I can just see the core coming into some rebuild shop somewhere with some guys eyes lighting up looking at a 455HO with round port heads and factory exhaust manifolds sitting on his shop floor.

Of course my gut feel is that the previous owner wasn’t a car guy, and had no clue what he had.  Given this, I’m almost betting his repair shop decided to help themselves to this guy’s 455HO, including the block, heads and exhaust manifolds.  I really can’t fathom any other explanation.  Even back in ’83, when the engine was swapped, I knew exactly how rare a 455HO was compared to D-port big car 455.  So I have a hard time believing a mechanic wouldn’t have at least looked into it.  But then again, perhaps a run of the mill auto repair shop might not have known the difference.
1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am (455HO, Automatic) - currently my project car.
Previously Owned TA's/Musclecars: 2002 Pewter WS6/M6 Trans Am, 1968 Dodge Superbee 383/4speed,  1975 TA 455/4speed, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/5speed, 1980 TA Indy Pace Car, 1977 TA 400/Auto, 1989 GTA 350TPI, 1990 GTA 350TPI, 1986 IROC 305TPI, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/Auto, 1993 Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (and probably a few I've forgotten about)

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2022, 04:56:59 PM »
Some more from the original thread:
I enjoyed the car in the as bought condition for a little over a year, using it as a weekend and occasional weekday fun car.  The interior was clean, but with typical Arizona sun damage like a cracked dash and some door panel damage, but overall pretty nice.  It even had the original AM/FM stereo.  Since the AC compressor was missing, the car didn’t get much attention during the hot Arizona summer months.  One day while beating on it a bit with a high speed freeway blast (speed not given to protect the innocent ;)) one of the freeze plugs had corroded through and started spurting coolant out of the side of the block.  Rather than simply replace the freeze plug, I was ready for a real build up of the engine, as its performance seemed a bit lacking to me.

I tore the engine down with my brother and found a number of issues with the block.  Keep in mind, this was a budget build-up, since I was a struggling college student at the time.  First it had a crack down low in one of the cylinder bores that had been stop drilled.  Also, one of the pistons was cracked between one of the ring grooves.  So much for the “remanufactured” engine replacement.  I had the block cleaned and checked, and upon the advice of the machine shop, reused the block even with the stop drilled crack.  I replaced the one damaged piston, traded my small valve heads at a local cylinder head rebuild shop for some ’71 cast number D-port 96 heads with 2.11” intake and 1.77” exhaust valves with screw in studs, bought a basic rebuild kit, bought a Holley 800cfm spreadbore carb and added some headers.  To my amazement the original 068 cam was still in the block.  Granted, it might not have been the original one from the car, but a correct part numbered 068 cam resided in this particular block.  I reused it after having it micced by the machine shop too.  All of the bottom end pieces checked out ok, and they were also reused.  When we got everything back together, the car ran fantastic.  It felt like it had gained 100 or more hp.  I was ready to hit the drag strip.

I had only driven down a ¼ mile race track once before in my life.  That was with my ’68 superbee and it was an untimed run on a closed track.  My first pass with the TA was a bit disappointing running a mid 15 second run, after having spun the tires all the way through 1st gear.  I found I couldn’t get into the secondaries of the carb in 1st gear without the tires going up in smoke.  With some practice and a little more tuning, I was able to get her down to the low 14’s at over 100mph.  Traction was still a major issue.  I never ran the car with drag radials or slicks, but have no doubt it would have been deep in the 13’s with better traction.   Granted these weren’t spectacular times, but then again this was the 80’s and my 14.19 had me running faster than the vast majority of street cars at the track.
After one of these track trips, I was driving home and just happened upon something that seemed like it was right out of the movies.  As I approached a light on a relatively empty road, there was an ‘86ish vette in one lane and a 911 Turbo in the other.  The road was 2 lanes wide in each direction, widening to 3 lanes at the next light.  I thought to myself, this is going to be interesting.  At first I resisted the urge to play on the street, but come on, how often does one find themselves in a situation like this.  I decided I would take my cue from the other two drivers.  Sure enough, the 911 and the vette pull away from the light fast.  I track right behind the 911 and keep pace with him as we both put a little distance between us and the vette.  After about a 75+mph blast we all three slow down for the next light and I moved into the middle lane.  I really wish I had a video camera with me back then.  There I was representing the pinnacle of American muscle next to a Euro supercar and the best modern American performance car of the time (ok so the GN was a bit faster in the 1/4 :p).   All three of us left on the green, with the 911 and me pulling away from the vette fairly fast.  I actually got a fairly good launch but avoided hitting the secondaries until I was nearing the top of 1st gear.  I slammed 2nd (B&M Mega shifter installed) and got a bit loose on the 1-2 shift, but didn’t lose distance between me and the 911.  The 911 was even with my front fender, with the vette falling at least 2-3 carlengths back.  I kept 2nd gear a bit too long as I revved the engine into the red shifting into 3rd at about 6000+RPM.  It’s a stock bottom end 455, and really shouldn’t have been up in this range, but she was still pulling and I didn’t want the 911 to get the W.  As I hit 3rd, I started to put distance on the 911, slowly but steadily.  Of course by this time we were getting well into the triple digit speeds and I decided it was time to let off.  When I did the 911’s front fender was about even with my rear ¼ panel.  I have no doubt he would have closed the gap at the top end and probably kept on going by me, but as far as a ¼ mile run, the big 455 took the W!

Now the bad part.  My victory had come at a cost.  At the next light, the three of us gave each other thumbs up.  But by now I realized I had damaged my beloved Trans Am.  The oil pressure was dropping on the gauge down to about 20psi or less with the engine revving.  I was starting to panic.  I didn’t want to be stranded, as I was still about 15 miles from home.  So I nursed her back home, cautiously listening for any engine noises and keeping an eagle eye on the oil pressure gauge to see if it fell further.  I had no clue what had happened, but initially suspected a spun bearing.  I removed the engine and again tore her down once more.  What I found confused the heck out of me.  There were no spun bearings, no scored bearings, no scored cam, no evidence whatsoever of damage from lack of oil.  I was happy but confused.  (BTW, I immediately hooked up a mechanical oil pressure gauge when I first got home to confirm it wasn’t simply the electrical gauge or sending unit).  It turned out to be a piece of cleaning brush bristles had somehow been left in the engine by the machine shop.  This became lodged in the oil pressure bypass valve where the oil filter mounts, causing it to stick open.  I guess even though the pressure dropped, there was still enough volume to keep the engine well lubed.
1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am (455HO, Automatic) - currently my project car.
Previously Owned TA's/Musclecars: 2002 Pewter WS6/M6 Trans Am, 1968 Dodge Superbee 383/4speed,  1975 TA 455/4speed, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/5speed, 1980 TA Indy Pace Car, 1977 TA 400/Auto, 1989 GTA 350TPI, 1990 GTA 350TPI, 1986 IROC 305TPI, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/Auto, 1993 Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (and probably a few I've forgotten about)

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2022, 04:57:54 PM »
Continued....

At this point, I was ready for more power, so I built engine number 3.  I had found a service replacement HO block in the paper for $100.  This block is strange, and I really need to revisit the casting numbers again.  It appears to be date coded for 1972, it has SR stamped on the block but also is stamped with WM.  The block has had a lot of machine work with the lifter galley polished, all areas deburred and cleaned up, etc.  It was time to open the Performance Automotive Warehouse catalog and get to work.  I ordered reconditioned rods with ARP bolts, TRW forged pistons, rings, bearings, etc.  My plan was to reuse the heads that I had.  I also ordered new hooker headers, a complete exhaust system, rhoads lifters, new rocker arms, pushrods etc.  This time I was planning on building the engine right.  The local Supershops became the second source for stuff.  In the mean time I picked up an HEI distributer and a new erson cam with 230/230 duration at .050 lift and a .470” lift with 1.5 ratio rocker arms.  This engine build took a bit over a year.  I finally got it reinstalled in the car, got her buttoned back up and got her running once again.   Then I graduated from college, got a real job, met my wife to be and ……..

The car sat.   It was moved from under its covered spot on a concrete pad out to the back of my dads yard to make room for his boat and my brother’s ’88 mustang GT.  My brother had been assigned to Germany and left his car with my parents.  Of course at this time the TA still didn’t have the value a new GT did, or I surely would have protested more vehemently against the move.  Besides I was out on my own and it was their house to do what they wished with it.  I made the fatal mistake of not regularly starting and driving the car during this time.  Sure I would go over every few months and tinker with it, turn it over, and run it for a bit.  After a couple years of sitting, my brother had been home on leave one time and he ended up breaking the ignition switch trying to start it when the steering column lock was twisted out of place.  So now I had no way to start it anymore.  Two or three more years passed and my wife and I had moved out of the apartment we were living in and bought a house, so I decided it was finally time to bring it home.

I started by dropping the gas tank, cleaning it out and replacing all of the rubber fuel lines.  Then I started inspecting the engine.  The timing cover had corroded so bad that It had a hole in it.  Also, somehow, water and moisture had managed to find its way into the engine.  I’m thinking it was due to mouse urine or other critters that had somehow made their way through the intake manifold into the engine.  I was devastated.  What I thought would be a simple fuel system clean up turned into a nightmare rebuild.  And now folks, engine number 4.
1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am (455HO, Automatic) - currently my project car.
Previously Owned TA's/Musclecars: 2002 Pewter WS6/M6 Trans Am, 1968 Dodge Superbee 383/4speed,  1975 TA 455/4speed, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/5speed, 1980 TA Indy Pace Car, 1977 TA 400/Auto, 1989 GTA 350TPI, 1990 GTA 350TPI, 1986 IROC 305TPI, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/Auto, 1993 Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (and probably a few I've forgotten about)

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2022, 04:58:59 PM »
and a bit more...

I barely had 100 miles on this engine.  I was upset with myself for becoming that guy.  The guy that had a classic muscle car sitting in his parents back yard rotting away promising to restore it some day.  I rented a uhaul car hauler and brought her back to my home.  After another year, I got around to pulling the engine.  The rust damage in the cylinders wasn’t that bad, but the machine shop recommended an .060 overbore to ensure it was cleaned up.  The other alternative was to resleeve a few of the cylinders.  I opted for going .060 over.  I have yet to find out if this is going to cause me any overheating problems in the future.  I obviously needed new pistons, so I figured it was time to go all out.  I picked up a set of cast number 197 HO heads off of Ebay for $800.  Added another $1,200 for a high end street porting job and rebuild with stainless valves, new springs etc.  They are currently milled to 100cc for a small bump in compression.  I purchased a set of SCAT h-beam forged rods and had a set of new forged pistons installed.  The block was also zero decked.  All of this went back into the 455HO 4 bolt block.  The nodular iron crank was still good to go as were many other parts.  I did manage to get a GM timing cover before they discontinued them.   The engine took about a year or more to get back together with a lot of down time waiting for various machine shops to complete work.  Then I moved to a new house….this was 2005. 

Obviously with a new house certain things take priority, and the car took a back seat to landscaping, new furniture, the usual stuff.  Within the last 4 years though, I got back to work on it.  I regularly turn the engine over by hand and oil the bores to ensure no issues there.  I’ll probably open it back up and replace the cam I selected with a roller cam, and should be able to ensure everything is still good before installing.  I’ve since completed the refurbishment of the subframe assembly with a Pro-touring suspension kit, had the subframe blasted and powder coated, installed remanned calipers and new lines from inline tube, as well as new bushings, springs, etc.  In about 2007, I had the transmission completely gone through, and its sitting ready to go back in with a 2400RPM hughes stall converter.
The plan over the next two months is to drop the rear end and go through it.  Install new leaf springs (also from pro-touring) and prep the body for the paint shop.  The remaining interior parts will be stripped out, front and rear glass removed, wiring removed etc.  If I stay on track it’ll be ready for body work in December.  I haven’t had any real quotes yet on the work, so it’ll be interesting to see what some of the more reputable shops come back with. 

Of course, then there is the matter of reassembly and redoing the interior.  I have a near mint dash removed from ’71 TA purchased off of ebay a few years back, good used rear valance panels, etc.  I’m debating sending my door panels and console off to Just Dashes to be restored or ordering repop parts, at least for the door panels.  My console is actually in pretty good shape, except for the center glove box lid.  I’ll still need all of my AC components refreshed as well as a million other small things, that we all forget about when tackling a project this size.  I’ll start posting more pics as I make progress and hopefully between my own self motivation and feedback I get from here, I’ll stay on track this time and no longer be “that guy”.  We all know him right…the guy with the old musclecar that’s going to be restored some day.
1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am (455HO, Automatic) - currently my project car.
Previously Owned TA's/Musclecars: 2002 Pewter WS6/M6 Trans Am, 1968 Dodge Superbee 383/4speed,  1975 TA 455/4speed, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/5speed, 1980 TA Indy Pace Car, 1977 TA 400/Auto, 1989 GTA 350TPI, 1990 GTA 350TPI, 1986 IROC 305TPI, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/Auto, 1993 Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (and probably a few I've forgotten about)

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2022, 05:02:09 PM »
 I went with a 12.7:1 "firm feel" upgrade to the steering gearbox.  Also ended up getting a new urethane coupler (rag joint) to go with it.  I had benchworks steering out of Scottsdale, AZ perform the work.  They also had the rubber boot in stock for replacing the intermediate shaft boot.  Total cost was $569.00, and turnaround was quick.

1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am (455HO, Automatic) - currently my project car.
Previously Owned TA's/Musclecars: 2002 Pewter WS6/M6 Trans Am, 1968 Dodge Superbee 383/4speed,  1975 TA 455/4speed, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/5speed, 1980 TA Indy Pace Car, 1977 TA 400/Auto, 1989 GTA 350TPI, 1990 GTA 350TPI, 1986 IROC 305TPI, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/Auto, 1993 Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (and probably a few I've forgotten about)

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2022, 05:40:48 PM »
Big project, I can appreciate the amount of effort and time it takes to replace all that sheet metal.  Looking good.
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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2022, 05:40:48 PM »

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2022, 09:41:30 AM »
Big project, I can appreciate the amount of effort and time it takes to replace all that sheet metal.  Looking good.

Thanks.  Yes it has been a big project.  I'm just getting around to updating the project thread since it wiped out when the site crashed earlier this year.

It's progressed quite a ways since these pictures.
1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am (455HO, Automatic) - currently my project car.
Previously Owned TA's/Musclecars: 2002 Pewter WS6/M6 Trans Am, 1968 Dodge Superbee 383/4speed,  1975 TA 455/4speed, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/5speed, 1980 TA Indy Pace Car, 1977 TA 400/Auto, 1989 GTA 350TPI, 1990 GTA 350TPI, 1986 IROC 305TPI, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/Auto, 1993 Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (and probably a few I've forgotten about)

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2022, 09:50:35 AM »
Thank you for posting from the old thread, always a good read.




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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2022, 10:34:58 AM »
Here are some images of the engine and new roller cam install:

This was the engine after it's initial rebuild back in the mid 2000's.


New Roller Cam, Lifters and Rocker Arms!!

Flat Tappet Crane Cam (similar to 744 Pontiac RAIII Cam) vs New Roller Cam:


Cam Specs


Lifters and Rocker Arms




Installed prior to final assembly:


Painted and Ready for Install:
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1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am (455HO, Automatic) - currently my project car.
Previously Owned TA's/Musclecars: 2002 Pewter WS6/M6 Trans Am, 1968 Dodge Superbee 383/4speed,  1975 TA 455/4speed, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/5speed, 1980 TA Indy Pace Car, 1977 TA 400/Auto, 1989 GTA 350TPI, 1990 GTA 350TPI, 1986 IROC 305TPI, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/Auto, 1993 Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (and probably a few I've forgotten about)

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2022, 11:18:26 AM »
Progress on the body documented in pictures.  Work was done by San Tan Hot Rods and Restoration.  Good shop to work with.  Charged me as we went along every couple of weeks.  No surprises with billing, but still ended up being double the original estimate.  The shop was right up the road from me, so I was able to check on progress over the 18 months it was there.  It needed a lot more sheet metal than I originally anticipated.

Wall of sheet metal:


Rear trunk pan installed:


Rear quarters and tail panel test fit:




Door skins replaced (didn't anticipate needing new skins, but rust holes in the bottom would cost more to repair than a new skin cost):


Everything welded up!


Bottom and interior primed!




Back home to install fuel lines, brake lines, subframe, rear suspension.  First time back on 4 wheels in over a year.







1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am (455HO, Automatic) - currently my project car.
Previously Owned TA's/Musclecars: 2002 Pewter WS6/M6 Trans Am, 1968 Dodge Superbee 383/4speed,  1975 TA 455/4speed, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/5speed, 1980 TA Indy Pace Car, 1977 TA 400/Auto, 1989 GTA 350TPI, 1990 GTA 350TPI, 1986 IROC 305TPI, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/Auto, 1993 Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (and probably a few I've forgotten about)

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2022, 11:23:25 AM »
Chief,

Incredible story and great pictures. Looking at car values today and rarity, I bet you have no regrets choosing the 71 TA.

Please keep the updates coming.
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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2022, 11:51:57 AM »
In all honesty, if I had to do it over again, I would have never restored this particular car.  Not having the original drivetrain and needing way more body work than I ever anticipated were two things that should have convinced me to dump it about 10 years ago.  Granted, I'll probably break even or have a small amount of equity in it when I'm all done. But when I factor in all my time and money, it would have been way better to just buy one that was already complete.  I have literally spent 100's of hours and $10's of thousands of dollars on this car and haven't driven it in 30 years.  I could have sold it 20 years ago, took that money plus a few extra bucks and bought an SD or HO that I could have enjoyed all that time.  For example, back in the early 2000's I almost bought a pristine '73 non-SD car for $7k.  I also could have picked up an SD car for less than $20k. 

But that's all irrelevant now.  I committed to finishing this car and that's what I'm doing.  Like so many classic car owners, I was always that guy with the car I was going to restore someday.  I was always tinkering with it, scouring ebay and forums like this one for rare parts, buying repro parts when they would become available, accumulating more and more parts and dollars invested over the last 3 decades.  But the reality was I never made much progress on it because the daunting task of tackling the body work was too much for me.  When I finally bit the bullet and found a shop I trusted to do the body work is when I really started to make progress.  I really admire the guys who can turn a car around in a year or less.  I just don't see how its possible without spending tons of money or really skimping on certain areas.  It seemed like I was always running into one thing or another that would either cost time, money or both.

With that I will say that there is still a lot more to document on the resto here.  The car is very far along and I'm reaching the home stretch.  I also need to add some narrative into the story behind all of those pictures.   There were many trials and tribulations along the way.  I hope by sharing my story, other's may learn from it and avoid some of my mistakes or at least go into their own project understanding exactly what they are getting into.  I will say, its rare to see one of these project threads get put together after the fact.  What was a 10 year long 6 page project thread is being reborn in a few days.
1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am (455HO, Automatic) - currently my project car.
Previously Owned TA's/Musclecars: 2002 Pewter WS6/M6 Trans Am, 1968 Dodge Superbee 383/4speed,  1975 TA 455/4speed, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/5speed, 1980 TA Indy Pace Car, 1977 TA 400/Auto, 1989 GTA 350TPI, 1990 GTA 350TPI, 1986 IROC 305TPI, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/Auto, 1993 Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (and probably a few I've forgotten about)

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2022, 12:25:47 PM »
Back to the body shop for refinishing.  Ok, here is where we ran into some issues.  Not long after I originally purchased the car in the 80's I found that it had a '71 firebird fender on the driver's side.  It had the Trans Am air extractor welded into it and the (1 year only for '71 non-TA firebird) lower vent removed with sheet metal welded over it.  That fender also had a fair amount of bondo in it.  It wasn't until I had it sandblasted that I realized how bad it was.  Interestingly, my thought was to buy an aftermarket or OEM fender from a later car and have the inner structure swapped with my '71 fender.  But as my body guy was looking at how to do that he pointed out that the passenger fender was already a later style.  I owned that car for 30 years and never once realized the passenger fender was also non-original.  At least the core support was correct for a '71.  But guess what, that was damaged too.  Most likely it was bent up in the same wreck that took out the rear 1/4 panel and front fenders.  So here are some more pictures of the process:

Back to the shop for prep and paint!


Fill...block...sand...fill...block...sand....


Test fit rear spoiler:


Test fit hood, fenders and front end...LOOKS LIKE A CAR AGAIN!!

1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am (455HO, Automatic) - currently my project car.
Previously Owned TA's/Musclecars: 2002 Pewter WS6/M6 Trans Am, 1968 Dodge Superbee 383/4speed,  1975 TA 455/4speed, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/5speed, 1980 TA Indy Pace Car, 1977 TA 400/Auto, 1989 GTA 350TPI, 1990 GTA 350TPI, 1986 IROC 305TPI, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/Auto, 1993 Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (and probably a few I've forgotten about)

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2022, 12:45:49 PM »
And now we ran into some problems.  My hood (not sure if it was original to the car given that both front fenders weren't) had a crease in it.  So after scouring the interwebs for a replacement I ended up biting the bullet and ordering an aftermarket hood.  I was actually quite pleased with the fit, finish and price.  Also, after evaluating the Frankenstein firebird fender I decided to replace it with an aftermarket piece too.  The aftermarket fender did not fit, it was way off on the wheel well opening dimensions and the front mounts where it bolted to the core support.  Also at this time I ordered a new repro radiator core support.  Very pleased with the quality of that piece.  The fender issue caused me several months delay as they tried to get it to fit (cost a fair amount of money too) as well as trying to locate a replacement. 

I finally located a fender locally that I removed from an '80 Indy Pace car a guy was parting out.  I know its a later fender.  We welded the front brackets to it from the old '71 fender to attach the front valance, but left the support that still includes the core to fender support attaching points.  I figured since the passenger fender was a later style, I wasn't going to spend money at this time having them swap out the inner support from the old fender.  Here are some more pictures:

Donor fender from the Indy TA.  Nice rust free AZ sheetmetal that I located locally at a great price!


Fender prep:


We have primer!!


Once again....sand....block...sand...block!


Into the paint booth:





1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am (455HO, Automatic) - currently my project car.
Previously Owned TA's/Musclecars: 2002 Pewter WS6/M6 Trans Am, 1968 Dodge Superbee 383/4speed,  1975 TA 455/4speed, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/5speed, 1980 TA Indy Pace Car, 1977 TA 400/Auto, 1989 GTA 350TPI, 1990 GTA 350TPI, 1986 IROC 305TPI, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/Auto, 1993 Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (and probably a few I've forgotten about)

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2022, 02:20:31 PM »
Spoilers, front nose, fender flares and shaker!










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1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am (455HO, Automatic) - currently my project car.
Previously Owned TA's/Musclecars: 2002 Pewter WS6/M6 Trans Am, 1968 Dodge Superbee 383/4speed,  1975 TA 455/4speed, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/5speed, 1980 TA Indy Pace Car, 1977 TA 400/Auto, 1989 GTA 350TPI, 1990 GTA 350TPI, 1986 IROC 305TPI, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/Auto, 1993 Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (and probably a few I've forgotten about)

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2022, 02:32:55 PM »
Back home for me to start on it.  This was in October of 2019.







Marker and tail light install.  Aftermarket OER parts that fit very well including the rear tail light bezels.  i was impressed.  Biggest issue was the rear aftermarket 1/4 panel cutouts for the marker lights were slightly undersized. 







1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am (455HO, Automatic) - currently my project car.
Previously Owned TA's/Musclecars: 2002 Pewter WS6/M6 Trans Am, 1968 Dodge Superbee 383/4speed,  1975 TA 455/4speed, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/5speed, 1980 TA Indy Pace Car, 1977 TA 400/Auto, 1989 GTA 350TPI, 1990 GTA 350TPI, 1986 IROC 305TPI, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/Auto, 1993 Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (and probably a few I've forgotten about)

Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2022, 02:32:55 PM »

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2022, 02:35:39 PM »
It was around this time on December 31st, 2019 that I became gravely ill, having to be hospitalized off and on for the next 4 months.  Along with that was about an additional 4 month recovery to be able to get to the point I could actually work on the car again.  I made very little progress until December of the following year...in 2020. 

1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am (455HO, Automatic) - currently my project car.
Previously Owned TA's/Musclecars: 2002 Pewter WS6/M6 Trans Am, 1968 Dodge Superbee 383/4speed,  1975 TA 455/4speed, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/5speed, 1980 TA Indy Pace Car, 1977 TA 400/Auto, 1989 GTA 350TPI, 1990 GTA 350TPI, 1986 IROC 305TPI, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/Auto, 1993 Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (and probably a few I've forgotten about)

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2022, 11:24:55 AM »
A lot of good car stories and a lot of work accomplished!  I have always liked the grill/front end look of a 1971.

Nice job on the rear end, front subframe, steering and engine.  Endless body work but the painted result came out fantastic.

Glad you got through your health issue and are working on the car again.  I had cancer in 2013, but I got radiation and am fine now.
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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2022, 11:58:59 AM »
Like many I guess this turned into a much bigger project than anticipated. I think 1971 was the second lowest production for Gen II T/A's. There is a good chance if you didn't stick with this project it likely would have been scrapped for parts. Kudos to you for hanging in there and saving it!

I am very happy to hear you are on the mend and feeling well enough to continue on your car. Like Bob I also was fighting cancer a couple years ago. Pretty sure I am done with it.

Thanks again for posting!
1980 T/A with a Pontiac 461

Gone but not forgotten;
1973 T/A 455
1975 T/A 400
1978 T/A W72
1982 T/A cross fire injected

Two wheel toys;
2014 Harley Ultra Classic Limited
2013 Honda CB1100
2010 Yamaha Vmax
1982 Yamaha Seca 750

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2022, 02:22:34 PM »
Just a quick update.  Before and after shots of the Front Seat.  I tackled the driver's side first.  The before pic is the passenger side which I haven't done yet.  Legendary deluxe dark blue vinyl with American Cushions new foam.  Foam didn't fit exactly like the original, so it took a little massaging to get the covers on, but overall I'm happy with the results.  Still have a few wrinkles to work out, but the seat looks great.  First time I ever recovered a front bucket seat.  The back seat was done before this and was much easier. 



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1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am (455HO, Automatic) - currently my project car.
Previously Owned TA's/Musclecars: 2002 Pewter WS6/M6 Trans Am, 1968 Dodge Superbee 383/4speed,  1975 TA 455/4speed, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/5speed, 1980 TA Indy Pace Car, 1977 TA 400/Auto, 1989 GTA 350TPI, 1990 GTA 350TPI, 1986 IROC 305TPI, 1989 Mustang LX 5.0/Auto, 1993 Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (and probably a few I've forgotten about)

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2022, 03:34:41 PM »
They finished seat looks great. I have never done any seat reupholstery myself. But I have heard sometimes just letting them sit in the sun can help workout small wrinkles. I have also heard hitting new upholstery with a hair blow dryer can also help. be cautious you don't go to high with the heat.

I just love the way this car looks, the color and an early Gen II TA!
1980 T/A with a Pontiac 461

Gone but not forgotten;
1973 T/A 455
1975 T/A 400
1978 T/A W72
1982 T/A cross fire injected

Two wheel toys;
2014 Harley Ultra Classic Limited
2013 Honda CB1100
2010 Yamaha Vmax
1982 Yamaha Seca 750

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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2022, 07:09:37 AM »
Yeah, it is hard to beat that front end nose cone look on those, a timeless design.  Great job on the seats!
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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2022, 04:12:27 PM »
Welcome back, and another "thanks" for posting. Great job on them seats. Do they still use hog rings, and pliers, on the bottoms?
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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2022, 04:31:40 AM »
The seat came out great and love the color.




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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #33 on: September 15, 2022, 07:55:36 PM »
Thanks again for reposting this thread. Great work and info. You will have one beautiful car when done.
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Re: 1971 Lucerne Blue Trans Am Restoration (Resurrected Thread)
« Reply #33 on: September 15, 2022, 07:55:36 PM »
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