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1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« on: March 14, 2021, 04:27:18 PM »
Figured I would post a redux version of my original restoration post on the 72 Firebird which is my current project.
Right now my 72 Firebird is in PDF , Paint Detention Facility! I was supposed to get it back next week, however it got an “Extended Stay” for another 2 weeks because of the really cold weather we have had in Las Vegas. The car is actually at a paint shop in Pahrump Nevada. Spring has been delayed a bit here and I talked to my painter yesterday about it. He said he didn’t want to spray until the temps came up a bit. Apparently spray paint doesn’t like to cure in colder temps, which I understand. Typically by this time of year temps are in the 70’s, but lately they have been in the low 50’s.

In the meantime, I have been moving my shop into a bigger shop space. Essentially I am going from 600sqft to about 1900sqft.  In my opinion moving a shop is harder to do than moving a house. It has given me an opportunity to regroup and re organized, which is good because I have had the same shop space for 5 years now.

To recap the 72 Firebird , I originally purchased it in 2018 from New Mexico. I turned out to be the 3rd owner and the car was originally an Espirit Firebird with a 400 2v carb. When I bought it it had Formula add ons, ( hood, badges etc.) . At some point in life spoilers and wheel flares were added, it also received a fair paint job , white with blue stripes.
Overall the car was in fair shape, not major body issues and was complete but it had sat since 1996. The car had a lot of dirt on it from sitting. So much , I believe I became a landowner in New Mexico!  The biggest rust issue was the trunk pan. After stripping the car down to shell I had the body on a rotisserie and then I was able to replace the trunk pan and several minor areas that had some rust rot.

Originally the car had an automatic transmission (Turbo 400) which I decided to swap to a manual TKO600. I also had the motor rebuilt as well as the rear axle. The motor got a bump in power with a little more cam and compression . I had the rear axle rebuilt with 3.23 gears and a posi traction.  The transmission swap went fairly straightforward and I am really looking forward to driving it when all is done.

I kept the suspension and brakes mostly stock , but I did install rear disk brakes using the kit from Scarebird. I used Delrin bushings on the front A arms and new front and rear springs and shocks.

I replaced the stock AC system withe the Surefit series from Vintage air. The entire electrical system is also new. I chose the American Autowire resto kit which works great!

A few weeks back I bought a set of Honeycomb rims. I was going to go with Year One 17” Honeycombs , but came across a great set of original 15x7 honeycombs with original trim rings and center caps.

So when the car gets out of paint jail, I’ll be doing the exterior trim and interior. I’m having the car painted “Soul Red” and the interior will be black. Originally the car was revere silver, black vinyl top with blue interior..

I will repost up some pictures of the progress from the beginning till present.
Jim
1979 Trans Am- Heritage Brown -W72 (Pontiac 400) -4Speed-WS6
1972 LeMans Convertible
1977 Trans Am
1972 Firebird
2000 TransAm WS6
1968 Lemans Converible
1979 TransAm Gold WS6 400/4speed
1971 Firebird
1977 MGB  Roadster Convertible

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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2021, 10:41:42 PM »
When I started the car was pretty much a complete “roller”. It was a complete car but in much need of restoration. The “my 72” title was chosen because of the vanity plates that were on the car when I bought it.







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1972 LeMans Convertible
1977 Trans Am
1972 Firebird
2000 TransAm WS6
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1977 MGB  Roadster Convertible

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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2021, 10:49:27 PM »
This is a copy of the build sheet. It was a pretty well optioned Firebird for the time. The car spent its life in Albuquerque, which meant it was a good environment for minimal rust.



1979 Trans Am- Heritage Brown -W72 (Pontiac 400) -4Speed-WS6
1972 LeMans Convertible
1977 Trans Am
1972 Firebird
2000 TransAm WS6
1968 Lemans Converible
1979 TransAm Gold WS6 400/4speed
1971 Firebird
1977 MGB  Roadster Convertible

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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2021, 10:58:32 PM »
In the first week I removed the front clip. The nose,fenders and hood were removed to remove the engine, front suspension and subframe. I cannot exaggerate how much dirt and dust this car collected after being dormant since 1996.








1979 Trans Am- Heritage Brown -W72 (Pontiac 400) -4Speed-WS6
1972 LeMans Convertible
1977 Trans Am
1972 Firebird
2000 TransAm WS6
1968 Lemans Converible
1979 TransAm Gold WS6 400/4speed
1971 Firebird
1977 MGB  Roadster Convertible

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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2021, 11:10:19 PM »
Once the motor was removed it , was time to remove the rest of the drivetrain, suspension, subframe and interior. Again everything on this car was dirty, very dirty. On the positive side it was complete. On the negative side the gas tank was roached. There was about 2 gallons of rotten fuel in the tank. The tank and sending unit were trashed. The only serious rust rot was the trunk pan, otherwise beneath the dirt was a good car for restoration. I decided to use a rotisserie on this project and that did make working on the body and cleaning a lot less challenging.











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1979 Trans Am- Heritage Brown -W72 (Pontiac 400) -4Speed-WS6
1972 LeMans Convertible
1977 Trans Am
1972 Firebird
2000 TransAm WS6
1968 Lemans Converible
1979 TransAm Gold WS6 400/4speed
1971 Firebird
1977 MGB  Roadster Convertible

Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2021, 11:10:19 PM »

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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2021, 11:21:04 PM »
With the car on the rotisserie, it was time to clean the underbody and address the rust issues. This was my first time doing bodywork and fixing rust issues. It took a lot of time cutting, measuring and fitting the replacement pieces. This was a part that really just took time and patience.







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1972 LeMans Convertible
1977 Trans Am
1972 Firebird
2000 TransAm WS6
1968 Lemans Converible
1979 TransAm Gold WS6 400/4speed
1971 Firebird
1977 MGB  Roadster Convertible

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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2021, 11:39:47 PM »
So with the body work issues addressed I spent a lot of hours cleaning and prepping the cars to paint the underbody and cowl areas. The car cleaned up pretty well. I used 3M adhesive remover to remove the factory underbody coating. The 3M spray worked well but there is really no easy way to remove undercoating. Just takes time and elbow grease. I sprayed the underbody with lizard skin and rhino liner spray. I also reapplied seam sealer throughout the car where applicable. Thefirewall and cowl area was painted with Satin Black 2k Urethane paint from Eastwood. The Eastwood paint worked really well and was an excellent match to a factory style black.









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1979 Trans Am- Heritage Brown -W72 (Pontiac 400) -4Speed-WS6
1972 LeMans Convertible
1977 Trans Am
1972 Firebird
2000 TransAm WS6
1968 Lemans Converible
1979 TransAm Gold WS6 400/4speed
1971 Firebird
1977 MGB  Roadster Convertible

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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2021, 11:52:09 PM »
I sprayed  the inside with lizard skin sound and heat barrier. This stuff does a great job and is easy to use. Once that was done I used dynamat for further heat and sound dampening.
It was now time to start putting the car back to together, with the first step taking the body off the rotisserie. That took some patience and time because the car had to be supported firmly while removing the brackets on the rotisserie. When that was completed it was time to install the subframe, suspension and rear axle. After a few days worth of work I had the car back on all four wheels. I had the subframe and many of the other chassis and suspension parts powder coated.












1979 Trans Am- Heritage Brown -W72 (Pontiac 400) -4Speed-WS6
1972 LeMans Convertible
1977 Trans Am
1972 Firebird
2000 TransAm WS6
1968 Lemans Converible
1979 TransAm Gold WS6 400/4speed
1971 Firebird
1977 MGB  Roadster Convertible

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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2021, 03:08:45 PM »
After the subframe and suspension was in place I installed the brakes , fuel lines and put the car back on all four wheels. I had to also make the cutout out in the transmission tunnel for the manual transmission swap. This was actually pretty easy because the tunnel hump fit naturally in its proper spot. As far as the brakes , I kept the stock brakes on the front using the Haxk Xp pads. I did add rear disk drakes replacing the original drums. I used the rear brake kit from Scarebird. It featured the drum in hat parking brake which iworks really well. The rear disk conversion has no clearance issues even with stock 14” rims. At this point I also installed the fuel lines and tank. I’m using the Holley Sniper with their recommended fuel pump and sending unit. It fit well into the stock tank. The pump is automatically regulated for the sniper so a return line was not required. I did make some minor modifications to the stock fuel lines . The only real change was routing a flexible fuel line from the passenger side frame rail to the motor.
Jim















1979 Trans Am- Heritage Brown -W72 (Pontiac 400) -4Speed-WS6
1972 LeMans Convertible
1977 Trans Am
1972 Firebird
2000 TransAm WS6
1968 Lemans Converible
1979 TransAm Gold WS6 400/4speed
1971 Firebird
1977 MGB  Roadster Convertible

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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2021, 03:19:58 PM »
After I got the car back on all fours, it went to the body shop for bodywork and primer. Additionally I had the door jambs an d inside panels painted with new color. I had decided to do a color swap and chose a Mazda color called “Soul Red”. It is an amazing looking color. I’m not really a red kinda person but this color really appealed to me. I also found out it was an expensive paint. The materials were about twice what a regular paint would be and it was also a 3 stage paint. Although the paint cost was higher I decided to go with it. I was very happy with the intial results!













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1972 LeMans Convertible
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1972 Firebird
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1968 Lemans Converible
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1971 Firebird
1977 MGB  Roadster Convertible

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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2021, 03:44:16 PM »
When I got the car back from bodywork, it was time to install the drivetrain, doors, fenders, and panels. I also had to start doing the electrical system also. I used an electrical wiring kit from American Autowire. They make a very good quality and a very complete kit. It is very adaptable for restomods or  stock configuration. It is a very effective means of installing a very good and reliable electrical system, I recommend it very much.
I used new hinges on the doors and I went with Ring Brothers hinges , and also used their hood hinges as well. They are top quality and  are very strong . Also a bit pricey, the quality and fitment are worth it.
I nstalled the motor and transmission and that when pretty much straightforward. One oversight was the flywheel bolts. I used ARP bolts listed for Pontiac flywheel/ flex plates. The ARP bolts listed had larger head bolts which rubbed against the dampener springs on the clutch. After everything was installed I realized the issues and after research I found that different bolts need to be used. Butler performance recommend Jeep flywheel bolt and they worked much better.

When I decided on the transmission swap to the TKO600 5 speed I ordered it from American Powertrain . They were great to work with and everything was included in their kit. The swap we t very well and I was quite happy with it. One important part of the TKO600 swap is centering the bell housing. I had to use adjustable offset dowel pins . After a few adjustments I got the bell housing well within the specified limits.



















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1972 LeMans Convertible
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1977 MGB  Roadster Convertible

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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2021, 04:07:08 PM »
With motor and transmission installation complete I started installing accessories, exhaust and radiator.
I used a power master alternator, a sanded a/c compressor, and stock power steering pump. I used a bracket system from CVF. These brackets worked great. I swapped cylinder heads on the engine during the rebuild with #11 heads from a 1970 Pontiac 400. Those heads had few bolt holes on the front so the stock brackets I had didn’t work ( post 1971 Pontiac heads had five mounting holes, whereas earlier heads had only four).
I used the Pypes transverse muffler system and that turned out good. When I started the motor it had a real great sound. I also chose Ram Air exhaust manifolds which I have used befor. They fit great and pose no clearance issues.
For cooling I went with a radiator and fan setup from Ron Davis radiators . Ron Davis makes a great fan and radiator setup and fits better than a stock setup in my opinion.
I finished setting up the clutch system. The TKO600 kit uses a hydraulic clutch engagement. The install went fairly well with no issues. The throw out bearing is hydraulically actuated as opposed to a mechanical setup in the stock form. The TKO600 can use either hydraulic or manual throw out bearings, but the kit came with the hydraulic bearing, so that is the route I chose.



















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1972 LeMans Convertible
1977 Trans Am
1972 Firebird
2000 TransAm WS6
1968 Lemans Converible
1979 TransAm Gold WS6 400/4speed
1971 Firebird
1977 MGB  Roadster Convertible

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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2021, 04:24:56 PM »
With motor and accessories installed I began putting the fenders and hood back on. I temporarily installed new gauges. I chose to use Dakota Digital HDX gauges and used a temporary mounting setup just to check to made sure that worked prior to initial start up. The fenders and hood installed well but like any other body panels it takes time to get them right. I wanted to ensure all the gaps were within factory spec and were straight. With a car that is almost 50 years old it will never be exact perfect, in fact even factory new it was never perfect. So the goal was to get it as best as it could be. With that in mind, the results came out pretty decent. Like anything it takes time and patience, but is not a difficult task to do. It just takes the effort to make it as good as it can be.
























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1972 LeMans Convertible
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1968 Lemans Converible
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1977 MGB  Roadster Convertible

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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2021, 04:41:01 PM »
At the beginning of the year the car was  back in paint jail. The Endura nose/ bumper and lower valence was installed and with some work and effort we got the fit just right.  Since it’s return to paint jail I started working onsome of the interior and exterior trim pieces. I took the original seats and removed the foam and upholstery. Also I took all the metal trim and had it polished and re chromed . I also picked up a great set of original honeycomb 15x7” rims. I will probably get the car back in about two weeks or so. Once it come back from paint jail I will have the interior  to install and exterior trim. Still with a bit of work to do I can say it will be in the final phase of restoration. I really look forward to that because it gets one step closer to being back on the road again!

















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1972 LeMans Convertible
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1968 Lemans Converible
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1977 MGB  Roadster Convertible

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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2021, 04:46:05 PM »
Before sending the car back to paint jail, I was able to get the car running under its own power. I drove it around my shop area making sure it went forward, backwards, left &right and stopped. I checked all the other areas , no leaks, no issues and everything worked as it should. I took my time checking things over and there were a few minor issues I addressed, but overall everything turned out to be in good order.
Jim
1979 Trans Am- Heritage Brown -W72 (Pontiac 400) -4Speed-WS6
1972 LeMans Convertible
1977 Trans Am
1972 Firebird
2000 TransAm WS6
1968 Lemans Converible
1979 TransAm Gold WS6 400/4speed
1971 Firebird
1977 MGB  Roadster Convertible

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« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2021, 08:21:12 AM »
Fantastic, cant wait to see it!

btw, is that a GM motorhome at the storage lot? Thats a classic in itself.
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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2021, 08:26:09 AM »
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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2021, 12:41:13 AM »
Fantastic, cant wait to see it!

btw, is that a GM motorhome at the storage lot? Thats a classic in itself.

I believe it is a GM motor home. Next time I’m out there I will check on it
Jim
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1972 LeMans Convertible
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1972 Firebird
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1977 MGB  Roadster Convertible

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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2021, 10:44:45 AM »
Fantastic, cant wait to see it!

btw, is that a GM motorhome at the storage lot? Thats a classic in itself.

I believe it is a GM motor home. Next time I’m out there I will check on it
Jim
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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2021, 12:00:54 PM »
Is it The EM-50 urban assault vehicle?//

That would make a great resto project, and adding all the rocket launchers and flamethrowers!
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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2021, 05:27:56 PM »
Jim,

I love all the high end upgrades, everything looks great. Doing away with the OEM AC unit sure opens up the engine compartment and give you a lot more room to work with.
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« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2021, 10:44:03 PM »
I don’t miss the OEM unit very much. It certainly opens up the engine area which I like.
Jim
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1972 LeMans Convertible
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1968 Lemans Converible
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1977 MGB  Roadster Convertible

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« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2021, 12:02:45 AM »
Today I finished  re upholstering the rear upper seat cushion.  When I removed the rear seat a while back, I found out the rear seats do not use molded foam to the seats like some of the later models. The rear seats use the older style seat padding. That also means it’s a different method of installation.
I used the seat upholstery kit from PUI . Originally I wanted to use a kit from Legendary Interiors but at the time their kits were on an 8 month backlog. The PUI upholstery kit is pretty good quality in my opinion.

For the 72 the seat padding uses burlap, cotton batting , listing cord and muslin. The process is pretty straightforward and works well.  It does take a little more time to do , but works out good.
With the seats removed I began to remove the old upholstery. With a pair of diagonal pliers I removed all the hog rings and took off the old upholstery. This can be a little messy and dirty, however with a little attention to detail the old covers come off pretty easy. I took pictures of the original installation and made some notes before I removed it. This was merely meant to have some guidelines for the re install.

Once the frame is bare, it has to be cleaned up . I had mine media blasted and then powder coated. Another way is to simply clean the frame  and use a rust oleum or other similar type spray paint.

With clean seat frames , the next step is to lay down the burlap. I had an installation kit that included all the needed items. The burlap simply  lays over the frame and is hog ringed in place . I had to measure the pattern along the top edge and make a pattern to cut out a strip from the burlap. I had the piece made with about a 1 1/2” overlap.  The overlap was done in order installing the listing wire along the edges. The listing wire basically provides an edge to use the hog rings to secure to the frame.

Once the burlap was in place,  i laid a strip of jute strip along the edges. This prevents premature wear of the upholstery around the edges. 
The cotton batting was laid over the seat frame  and I ensured I left enough on the sides  to keep the sides with some padding.  This cotton material works pretty well but if can be messy. With some care a cotton mess can be minimized.
Muslin material is the laid on top and then hog ringed to the seat frame . It works best to have about a 4” overlap to the back of the frame. I hog ringed the top edge starting from the center and working outward. I did the bottom edge next  starting from the center and working outward. When attaching the muslin cloth it is important to make sure you have even consistently without any lumping of the cotton. The one good thing is that if you do make some mistakes you can easily correct it by cutting the hog rings and re doing your work. The key thing is to have consistent padding thickness with no big lumpy area. The total thickness of the cotton is about 3-4 inches. It does compress easily and typically 3-4 layers are needed.

The next step I took was to apply the actual seat cover. I used the black vinyl deluxe seat covers. Before I started to put it on , I sprayed the muslin with a silicon spray ( WD40 brand silicone spray.). Using silicone spray allows the upholstery to slide on the seat padding without bunching up the cotton. It takes a bit of sweat to get the covers over the frame , but patience is the key. Another key note is to make sure the upholstery cover is centered. The way I did it, was keep working around the cover and stretching it into place, to the point where you can hog ring it to the frame.
I did the top first then bottom and sides.  Again, the key is patience and taking your time. If you do make a mistake then you can always remove the hog rings and re do it.
Legendary and PUI both have install videos that offer some great info and guidance. For this seat frame the Legendary video for the 69 charger rear seat video was very similar to this installation.

I was pretty happy with end result. The rear seat back looked every bit as good as I could expect. Overall I believe I spent about 3- 4 hours on this seat back. Once I got the hang of it , things started making sense to me and the installation was pretty easy.

Jim

Here is the bare frame, after media blasting and powder coat


Here is the strip of burlap I attached a long the top frame


Here is the burlap attached to the frame.



Along the bottom edge I folded over the burlap and used contact cement spray to the frame and burlap. This made a nice edge to the bottom and I then installed some hog rings.

This was the contact cement I used recommended by the local upholstery shop. Works great!


I applied the jute strip along side the perimeter of the frame. This prevents premature wear along the edges of the seat cover




I laid out 4 layers of cotton batting over the top and sides leaving some overlap. It can be trimmed down as needed with scissors air by carefully tearing it off.




I laid the muslin cloth over the cotton and trimmed it to shape with  about a3-4” overlap. This can be trimmed as you go so having a little bit of excess is okay.
















I placed and centered the seat cover and began working it around the sides to getting it positioned on the frame.  Spraying silicon spray on the muslin does make it a bit easier process. It does take some grunting to stretch the cover over the frame. Shifting around the frame will keep it centered. Also compressing down on the springs really helps also.






It takes a little bit of work, but patience pays off. The end results:




1979 Trans Am- Heritage Brown -W72 (Pontiac 400) -4Speed-WS6
1972 LeMans Convertible
1977 Trans Am
1972 Firebird
2000 TransAm WS6
1968 Lemans Converible
1979 TransAm Gold WS6 400/4speed
1971 Firebird
1977 MGB  Roadster Convertible

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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2021, 03:05:41 AM »
Incredible job on the rear seat upholstery, the end result is excellent. Nice write up and photos, I will save this for future reference. I like the idea of powder coating the metal seat frame to prevent rusting. All the ones I have seen were just bare metal and prone to rust.
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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2021, 03:16:27 AM »
Great job and great write up! One step closer to having our old forum of info back.
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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2021, 08:52:49 AM »
Very nice! Can't wait to see the finished product!
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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2021, 10:37:47 PM »
Yesterday I got a preview of my 72 with color on it. The paint jail time took longer than I had expected,but I wasn’t too tore up about it. I was able to get a lot of other projects stuff done. I did finish the seats and I have been working on a lot of the other stuff with regards to interior and exterior trim and components.
So the color is Mazda color called “Soul Red”. It is a three stage paint application sorta similar to a “Candy” color paint. However is a combination of several metallic tints. I am not a paint knowledgeable person, but it is a pretty unique paint. I was really impressed with the color, it does stand out well. Just going to have to take really good care not to scratch or scuff it in the last phase of restoration.
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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2021, 05:55:52 AM »
2 thumbs up, if I had more hands I would give you more!
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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2021, 07:30:59 AM »
I really like the color and glad to see you didn't go with a traditional firebird reds.




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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2021, 01:37:55 PM »
The paint looks fantastic, l love the color. I have four red motorcycles, two kind of close in color, so I might be prejudiced.

Can’t wait to see this car finished!
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1973 T/A 455
1975 T/A 400
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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2021, 04:43:06 PM »
Thanks for the replies, I actually get to see it person tomorrow morning. Lately I have been very busy with work.
Jim
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1972 LeMans Convertible
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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2021, 05:49:25 PM »
The color is killer
Great job by the shop

Congratulations on being sprung from paint jail

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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2021, 07:23:53 AM »
Nice! Love the Color

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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2021, 08:43:42 AM »
Holy ****....do I ever love it.

It gets me excited to see what mine will kinda look like!!!

right on!!!!
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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2021, 05:36:55 PM »
Wow Jim, paint jail was worth it for that finish, it really accentuates the contours of the car. Cant wait to see more!
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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2021, 10:18:03 PM »
A few weeks back I reconditioned the grills. I had the trim pieces re chromed and I had to give the grills a good cleaning. Sometime in the past the grills were spray bombed black. I tried a several was to strip the old paint. I really was limited on solvents to remove the old paint. I didn’t want to ruin the grills.
A technique I used worked out really great. I used my bead blaster  set on low pressure (45-50 psi.) this removed all the old paint down to the bare plastic. Using glass bead media  on low pressure brought the plastic grill buckets back like original condition. I then sanded them with 600 grit then 800 as well. The plastic was as smooth, with a natural surface.
I painted the buckets with argent silver spray paint. I used Duplicolor silver caliper paint which is an excellent match to the factory argent silver.
I had the trim pieces that surround the grill buckets re chromed. They mounted up and fitted very easy. I got a new “PONTIAC” emblem as well.
I am really happy how they turned out. Definitely an improved look.

Jim

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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2021, 03:19:10 AM »
Wow! Thoae turned out great! Who did the rechrome?
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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2021, 06:58:28 AM »
Excellent work. Is the outer chrome ring removable on those grilles?
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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2021, 10:14:21 AM »
They look perfect!
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Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2021, 09:00:51 PM »
Thanks for the replies.

The chrome trim is removable, it is held down with square shaped speed nuts. I bought the retainers from a local Ace Hardware store. I had the trim rechromed from a local place here in Vegas.

Jim
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1968 Lemans Converible
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1971 Firebird
1977 MGB  Roadster Convertible

Re: 1972 Firebird - “My 72”
« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2021, 09:00:51 PM »
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