Author Topic: Rot Repair in my Garage  (Read 1437 times)

roadking77

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 11872
Rot Repair in my Garage
« on: May 28, 2021, 01:36:44 PM »
I knew that the trim at my garage doors was put in improperly (yes I did the work). It was never counter flashed. IF and when I do repairs for customers like this first thing I tell them is the guy didnt flash it properly. I DO know better. With all of that said, I knew the day would come to pay the piper. Bumped into the trim the other day and powder came pouring from the bottom. After taking the aluminum off found major damage. Ripped everything out, treated for the ants, put back together. No pics but we finished the siding today. Gonna re - wrap the other 2 doors now, after 20yrs they have gotten pretty beat up.
2021-05-28_03-14-09 by Kerry Grubb, on Flickr
2021-05-28_03-14-22 by Kerry Grubb, on Flickr
2021-05-28_03-14-30 by Kerry Grubb, on Flickr
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

5th T/A

  • Active Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 591
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2021, 02:47:14 PM »
Kerry,

Good thing you got a guy who can do these repairs for you and he works cheap.
1980 T/A with a Pontiac 461

Gone but not forgotten;
1973 T/A 455
1975 T/A 400
1978 T/A W72
1982 T/A cross fire injected

Two wheel toys;
2014 Harley Ultra Classic Limited
2013 Honda CB1100
2010 Yamaha Vmax
1982 Yamaha Seca 750

Jack

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 11883
  • 1971 Esprit TA Clone W72 1972 Formula 68 350 HO
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2021, 02:57:34 PM »
Kerry,

Good thing you got a guy who can do these repairs for you and he works cheap.

I don't know about that... I think its time that he called a professional lol.




Regards, Jack

NOT A TA

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 3680
    • Laboratory Fourteen
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2021, 08:34:00 PM »
Rot repair jobs on buildings are like rust repair jobs on cars. We always hope there's less hidden damage than we think and yet every time it's much worse than we thought it might be. I'm currently doing rot repair on my house and I don't think there's a single piece of the entire exterior that's salvageable.
John Paige
Lab-14.com

Jack

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 11883
  • 1971 Esprit TA Clone W72 1972 Formula 68 350 HO
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2021, 04:58:34 AM »
Question for you Kerry, why so many jack studs? and why some are PT and others not?




Regards, Jack

Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2021, 04:58:34 AM »

NOT A TA

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 3680
    • Laboratory Fourteen
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2021, 10:21:29 AM »
 "I knew the day would come to pay the piper."

That reminds me, how about those sill plates?
John Paige
Lab-14.com

roadking77

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 11872
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2021, 06:19:54 PM »
Sill plates are treated, and although they dont look it, they were solid as can be. All of the studs were non treated to  begin with, I put treated back in just because. There is a steel beam supporting the floor joist above the garage that bears at that space, hence all of the lumber. I never put a counter flashing in, and never caulked the siding to the jamb, letting water in. The bugs are after water not wood. They will eat the wood fibres to get the moisture out. If you keep the wood dry = no bugs.

You guys would not believe how much rot repair we have replaced for customers in the last couple of years. I was kidding around and said we should change our name to the rotten guys.

I just got a call yesterday for another termite repair job.
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

NOT A TA

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 3680
    • Laboratory Fourteen
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2021, 08:38:23 PM »
Sill plates are treated, and although they dont look it, they were solid as can be. All of the studs were non treated to  begin with, I put treated back in just because. There is a steel beam supporting the floor joist above the garage that bears at that space, hence all of the lumber. I never put a counter flashing in, and never caulked the siding to the jamb, letting water in. The bugs are after water not wood. They will eat the wood fibres to get the moisture out. If you keep the wood dry = no bugs.

You guys would not believe how much rot repair we have replaced for customers in the last couple of years. I was kidding around and said we should change our name to the rotten guys.

I just got a call yesterday for another termite repair job.

Good to hear the sill's still solid.

 There's a huge demand for that type of work here. If I were younger & in better health I'd start a business just doing that type of work and could get paid well. There's very few companies that do quality work here. I haven't found any. Between shoddy construction, really bad roofing companies and hurricane repair "specialists"  there's a tremendous number of severely damaged homes.

I need (have to because of codes) to hire a licensed roofing company to replace the roof on my house and have talked to about 20 companies so far, not one I'd let replace the roof on a dog house so far. I may have to go get a license so I can pull a permit, I've already gone waaaaay beyond what is allowed without building permits. I'll post a thread on my current repairs, would appreciate your input.
John Paige
Lab-14.com

roadking77

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 11872
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2021, 02:21:34 PM »
Jon, send me a PM and I will give you my email/text.

My grandfather started 'wintering' in FLA in the 30's. He was a builder and would head south for the winter, build a couple of houses and head back north in the spring. When mom and dad bought a house there dad thought about getting a license and starting a southern division of our company. At the time FLA was kinda tough to get a license at least for someone without year round residency. Not sure whats required now. I have had a lot of family live there again, going back to the 1930's, I have heard all kinds of stories about the quality of work! I do know they have specific laws regarding senior citizens though.
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

Mac

  • Active Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 526
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2021, 06:56:52 PM »
Wow, good thing you caught that. That’s a bearing wall, hate to think what would happen if you let that go any longer. Good job with the repair.
The Never Ending Punch List!

roadking77

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 11872
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2021, 02:32:21 PM »
Figured I should put up the finished product. Nothing fancy but the rot is gone and back to normal (about 3 months ago!)
2021-09-26_12-14-36 by Kerry Grubb, on Flickr
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

5th T/A

  • Active Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 591
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2021, 02:54:43 PM »
My eyes were wondering and I noticed the Mustang Convertible, then the beautiful doors to the right of it. The repair looks great but I got distracted.
1980 T/A with a Pontiac 461

Gone but not forgotten;
1973 T/A 455
1975 T/A 400
1978 T/A W72
1982 T/A cross fire injected

Two wheel toys;
2014 Harley Ultra Classic Limited
2013 Honda CB1100
2010 Yamaha Vmax
1982 Yamaha Seca 750

roadking77

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 11872
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2021, 04:32:12 PM »
Thanks Larry, The mustang is my wifes 'baby'.  I got it for her as a present when I finished my 77. I had the car I always wanted and she wanted a new mustang. Happy wife.......................
I made those doors from some old barn siding I salvaged off a job. I keep that kind of stuff when it comes around and people call me Sanford! I can see the beauty in a rotten old pos piece of wood  :D  They go into my old shop, which is the size of a garage bay. Area is now my sons gym/lifting room.
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

kentucky yeti

  • Jedi Council
  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 12848
  • located in western Ky
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2021, 05:17:53 PM »
Those doors are fabulous!  I’ve never had the knack for woodworking.  That’s why I’m a rough-in carpenter and not a finish carpenter. 😂
Mike (aka Yeti)

1969 Firebird 400 (non-numbers)
1977 Y82 W72 Auto
2015 F-150 Lariat 4x4 (twin turbo)
2016 Explorer Limited
2012 Mustang

Jack

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 11883
  • 1971 Esprit TA Clone W72 1972 Formula 68 350 HO
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2021, 06:36:39 PM »
Great work and Mustang. The door is beautiful but I'm not sure about MD but in MA you need a rated door for an attached garage.




Regards, Jack

Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2021, 06:36:39 PM »

b_hill_86

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1326
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2021, 08:31:59 PM »
I’m envious at your ability. I dabble in a little bit of stuff like that but only as necessary and I try to not be one of those guys that does it but does it wrong.. I think I posted after the crash my dad and I renovated my kitchen recently.  Definitely a learning experience but my dad has an eye for detail and is a bit of a perfectionist with certain things. We’re trying to replace my roof now and I’m struggling with it a bit. I’ve done a few gable roofs in the past but my house has a hip roof and I’ve been learning of the complexity of properly shingling a valley. Thankfully I only have two, and I’ll get there but it’s been a process lol.
-Brian-

1977 Trans Am 400 4 speed

roadking77

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 11872
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2021, 07:11:15 AM »
I dont envy you on a roof. In the last 40 yrs I have done many square miles of roofing. Pushing 60 I have made the realization that I will do no more roofs!  The only ones I will even think about now are true standing seam roofs. 
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

b_hill_86

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1326
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2021, 07:10:33 PM »
I dont envy you on a roof. In the last 40 yrs I have done many square miles of roofing. Pushing 60 I have made the realization that I will do no more roofs!  The only ones I will even think about now are true standing seam roofs.

Ha! I made the decision, other than my garage which is a small gable roof, no more for me either. And I’m only 35.
-Brian-

1977 Trans Am 400 4 speed

5th T/A

  • Active Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 591
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2021, 08:19:15 PM »
I have always been a hands on person when it comes to doing anything around the house. I hate to pay someone for something I could do myself. I have done a fair amount of roof shingle repair and some sheds. Assuming the job is done right, I feel a roofer deserves every cent they are paid. Especially on a two story building with a steep pitch.

As Clint Eastwood used to say “a man has got to know his limitations “.
1980 T/A with a Pontiac 461

Gone but not forgotten;
1973 T/A 455
1975 T/A 400
1978 T/A W72
1982 T/A cross fire injected

Two wheel toys;
2014 Harley Ultra Classic Limited
2013 Honda CB1100
2010 Yamaha Vmax
1982 Yamaha Seca 750

b_hill_86

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1326
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2021, 09:24:27 PM »
I have always been a hands on person when it comes to doing anything around the house. I hate to pay someone for something I could do myself.

I agree and am the same which is why I opted to do this myself. Even though it turned out to be more work than expected I still told my wife, if I’d paid someone to do this roof, I’d probably be mad at myself and I would’ve stood there going “I could’ve done this”. We made good progress today though. I see the light at the end of the tunnel….barely. Lol

Sorry to hijack Kerry.
-Brian-

1977 Trans Am 400 4 speed

roadking77

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 11872
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2021, 12:24:26 PM »
No apologies needed. Hope the roof turned out ok.
2021-10-08_01-58-24 by Kerry Grubb, on Flickr

Since you guys brought them up figured Id post a pic of the doors. They are made of old barn siding.
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

5th T/A

  • Active Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 591
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2021, 02:09:59 PM »
Those doors are a work of art, absolutely beautiful!

Rally nice you were able to build them from rescued materials.
1980 T/A with a Pontiac 461

Gone but not forgotten;
1973 T/A 455
1975 T/A 400
1978 T/A W72
1982 T/A cross fire injected

Two wheel toys;
2014 Harley Ultra Classic Limited
2013 Honda CB1100
2010 Yamaha Vmax
1982 Yamaha Seca 750

Jack

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 11883
  • 1971 Esprit TA Clone W72 1972 Formula 68 350 HO
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2021, 04:47:47 PM »
Very nice doors Kerry.




Regards, Jack

ryeguy2006a

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5480
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2021, 09:35:41 AM »
Wow, those doors are really nice Kerry!

1976 Trans Am LS1, 6 speed, C5 Brakes, LS1 rear 12" brakes, and much more...SOLD
My Build: http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=24465.0

New project: 1968 Camaro LS6, T56, Speedtech, Hotchkis, DSE, Z51 13.4" front brakes, LS1 rear disks, etc.
http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=74591.0

roadking77

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 11872
Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2021, 04:05:33 PM »
Thank You!
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

Re: Rot Repair in my Garage
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2021, 04:05:33 PM »