TAC Spotlight => Projects & Restorations => Topic started by: roadking77 on February 08, 2021, 07:22:37 AM

Title: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on February 08, 2021, 07:22:37 AM
Hoping the old threads come back  :?, but just in case I will restart my old thread. Not much mechanical info, motor is still at the shop, I will be checking in today, hopefully the block is back from the machinist.
I have been doing bits and pieces in my small heated shop. I have found that when some larger tasks seem too daunting, thats a good time to work on the little stuff. That way when the time comes you have your stash of plug n play parts ready to go. Most of the int. trim was finished last winter. Last couple of weekends was the steering column. The tilt is nice and tight so it just need a tear down, clean and paint. I did break the hazard knob so I ordered new from firebird central. I cleaned all of the switches with electric contact cleaner so I hope they will be good to go. Ordered a new key switch from Ames, waiting for it to come in so I can get things buttoned up.
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Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on February 08, 2021, 07:27:33 AM
Re did the collar. Stripped off the old with my trusty little battery die grinder and a medium then fine roloc. Took all of 10 minuts. Then I put the collar on my shop furnace for a few minutes to warm it up. Sprayed with VHT wrinkle paint. I have to say it even impressed me. Came out darn near perfect. THEN, I put some colour to it with SEM  :( :( The SEM melted off the wrinkle coat. Strip it back down, wrinkle coat again, this time some rustoleum primer and then the SEM. Worked the second time around with primer, but the extra layer of paint concealed the wrinkles a bit. SO, I am thinking third times a charm.
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Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: ryeguy2006a on February 08, 2021, 07:29:26 AM
Nice work Kerry! That steering column looks brand new and the collar looks great.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on February 08, 2021, 07:30:19 AM
Cleaned up and painted the bottom of the shaker. I recently got this from a local source, very nice, uncut and still had the factory nipple for the drain tub. I painted the metal plate satin black, and cleaned the bare fibreglass.
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Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on February 08, 2021, 07:31:59 AM
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Another little project, I had a rear sway bar made, so I cleaned it up a bit and sprayed with 'shark hide'. This part is ready to install as well.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on February 08, 2021, 07:35:19 AM
Thanks Ryan, compared to your mechanical skills this is pretty basic stuff, but I figure what the heck it all needs done.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: Jack on February 08, 2021, 08:05:39 AM
That shaker cleaned up nicely, great work as usual Kerry.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: FormTA on February 08, 2021, 10:10:27 AM
Ya, that shaker really surprised me too! The steering column looks amazing as well. It's surprising how many small items there are to restore. It's good you get them done now, so they don't slow you later.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: 5th T/A on February 08, 2021, 03:55:02 PM
Kerry,

I am always amazed at how well everything you touch turns out.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on February 08, 2021, 04:13:59 PM
Thanks Larry. Im not very mechanically minded so motor work is my shortcoming right now, But I can clean and paint stuff  :shock:
Guess I will start on the 'show' side of the shaker now. I have way too many small projects started and nothing finished, including the steering column. I am waiting on a shipment from Ames for the new key switch. I ordered that and a couple of small things last monday, I also ordered the hazard knob from Firebird Central on the same day. Got the knob on Friday, still waiting on Ames. Their service is usually better, but a bit of a let down this time around.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: 5th T/A on February 08, 2021, 05:15:35 PM
Kerry,

You give me and others incentive to keep moving forward. When you take a worn out part and make it look like new or sometimes better, that's restoration, really kind of an art form. I am more mechanically inclined. I used to paint but haven't for years. When the weather gets better I will dust off the cobwebs in my brain and relearn what I have forgotten.

I have been ordering parts from various vendors and the delivery times are all over the place from the same vendor. I am sure the weather has been a factor as well as the pandemic. In the grand scheme of things I am not going to complain. Not like my health or livelihood is depending on prompt delivery.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: Wallington on February 08, 2021, 06:35:05 PM
Shaker came up nicely with date stamps intact, easy to remove with the slightest cleaners or scrubbing.

What's the blue paint blob or sticker on the column, inspection stamp?
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on February 09, 2021, 07:44:13 AM
Yes the date stamps are still on the shaker, I worked carefully not to remove although they are not correct for my car!

Yes, the blue dot is a sticker. There was one on there before I started the cleanup. At first I thought it was just something on there, then I saw a couple more pics that also had them present. I was 'told' that it was a factory marking, so I figured what the heck. Im not really that guy that wants to replicate factory markings but.......since it was there :-?
There was also a green paint marker check mark on the bottom side of the mounting plate. I put that back too, although that will be covered over with the foam seal.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on February 09, 2021, 07:47:36 AM
Question about the shaker. The one I have is in very nice original condition, I think?  The top is painted white and I havent started working on that yet so I dont know how many coats of paint are on there. The complete underside, inside the scoop and even the outside of the black metal plate were bare fibreglass. Was this how the factory painted these? Paint on the top, bare underneath?
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on February 09, 2021, 07:48:12 AM
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Before resto.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: 5th T/A on February 09, 2021, 06:14:09 PM
Kerry,

To answer your question on shaker paint.

This is a picture of my 1980 301, top

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Here is the underneath of my 1980, 301. The fiberglass shaker is unpainted.

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Here is another picture of the underneath showing the baseplate. It looks like the baseplate started out black but has white overspray from when the top was painted.


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Here is the underneath of the fiberglass portion of a spare I have, not sure what year, but it looks unpainted. I cant say for sure how a TATA might have been, but its unlikely Pontiac painted anymore than what they had to. Hope this helps!

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Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on February 10, 2021, 08:16:15 AM
Thanks Larry, thats perfect, great pics. Makes sense that the bottom would have overspray, after all of the work I did to make mine look purdy on the bottom I guess I will not tape anything off when I paint the top. I am not one for replicating factory marks, stickers etc. And when I started this resto all I wanted to do was a quick paint, motor rebuild, get it on the road, drive for a month then sell. The longer I work on it, and the deeper I get into the rabbit hole the more correct I have become about markings, date codes etc. Why Oh Why ??
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: RamblerRacer on February 10, 2021, 09:07:39 PM
The bottom of mine was unpainted as well,
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on February 11, 2021, 11:31:33 AM
 :D
The bottom of mine was unpainted as well,
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: 737driver on March 14, 2021, 12:41:22 AM
Kerry, it is always great to see your progress reports on your cars. It is amazing how you can preserve much of the original parts on the car. Very impressive!
Jim
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on March 14, 2021, 08:51:32 AM
We had a really cold spell, then I caught up working on the shop ceiling. Now things are put back in their place and spring is here I would like to get back on the car. Finishing the bottom stalled last fall. So I figure may as well pick up there. I dropped the fuel tank yesterday (no sticker, but being a Norwood car I was told there wouldnt be) and pulled the pass side fuel lines. Silly me had a wild thought that I may be able to blow them out and clean them up. They literally fell apart in my hand, SO on to get new lines. I am glad as I knew better and should have just got them from the start. Fuel tank is a bit banged up so I will get a new one of those as well.

Havent talked to my motor guy for awhile, but last time I did he said the blocked had to be dipped several times to get rid of all the rust but it was going to fine. I expect that it is back at his shop by now, hoping to stop by this week and check.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: Nexus on March 20, 2021, 08:46:14 AM
Caught up and re-subscribed
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on March 22, 2021, 07:20:15 AM
Weather breaking, finally back in the shop getting some small stuff finished. Checked with the mechanic, block is still at the machinist. I was really hoping I would have had it back by now but I have other stuff to keep me busy. I took the fuel tank out, after cleaning the trunk floor looked brand new. I coated and re painted but no metal work needed. Nice to have a relatively rust free car! Silly me thought I could blow out and clean up the fuel lines, they literally fell apart in my hand after removal. Tank has a couple of big dents in the bottom that I dont like, if I cant get them out it will be replaced. Bottom side of car is finished, I just need to install new fuel lines (need to be ordered) then I can take it off the cribbing. At that point I can remove the rear end for a rebuild.  In the meantime I started the resto on my wiper motor, got the arms done. Transmission was painted all black at one time, I used some paint stripper and then a power washer to clean it up a bit. Shop is going to tear into and rebuild it. He also said he would clean the case but I figure I would give him a little better to start with.

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Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 22, 2021, 08:18:11 AM
Looking great Kerry!
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: MNBob on March 23, 2021, 01:56:23 PM
I was able to get the gas tank straps on edge into a mortar mixing tub.  Filled it to cover them with Evaporust and waited a few days.  They came out good.   

My Super T10 had a bad leaky front seal after 38K miles so you might want to check that.  Tranny looks great!
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on March 23, 2021, 04:52:28 PM
Yea, the guys gonna tear it apart for a once over, replace all wear items.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: FormTA on March 24, 2021, 12:58:18 PM
That paint stripper did an amazing job on the transmission! That is really impressive!
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on March 26, 2021, 07:14:53 AM
Thanks Luke, It was covered with black paint. I used some stuff from Lowes, it did work really well. I was a bit concerned about pressure washing, but figured what the heck, its gonna get wet driving in the rain, and I am going to have it completely torn apart for a rebuild so nothing to loose. I did find the s/n under the paint that matches the s/n of my car  :grin:.  I was told it was the original trans, and figured it was but the proof is so much better than speculation. SO, the only part not original to the car is the carb, but I do have a correct replacement.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: FormTA on March 26, 2021, 04:45:23 PM
Talk about value adders!
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on March 27, 2021, 06:50:33 AM
Just got another piece of 'gold' in the mail yesterday. Found a really nice air cleaner housing. Stripped it down, hope to get a coat of paint on it tomorrow. Pics to follow.

Motor is still at the machinist  :sad:  I asked the guy if he needed more money, but he said no. I have already paid a decent deposit but figure the guy with most in the pot goes to the head of the class.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on March 29, 2021, 01:08:48 PM
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Picked up a really nice air cleaner. Spent a few minutes with my friend the paint stripper (sorry, its not a girl), a scotchbright with some paint thinner, then my fine grit roloc on the angle grinder.

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Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on March 29, 2021, 01:12:52 PM
I realized since the reboot I didnt have any pics of the car itself so I will post some up here. From it being a barn find (not actually, just stored in a barn temp until I got it home to my shop) through the present. Not nec. in order
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Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on March 29, 2021, 01:17:10 PM
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Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on March 29, 2021, 01:22:26 PM
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Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: 5th T/A on March 29, 2021, 03:05:37 PM
Congratulations on finding the correct air cleaner, I think they are really getting harder to find. Also nice to be able to compare the before and after body and paint pictures, the car has really come a log way, looks great. At this point you are probably getting a little anxious to have your engine back.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: Jack on March 29, 2021, 04:00:49 PM
Happy for you, I'm glad you were able to find the correct air cleaner. If you don't mind can you please see if you can find any stamped numbers/ markings, etc.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: Nexus on March 29, 2021, 05:15:14 PM
That is coming together nice. It's my favorite stock model of Trans Am.

Not surprising it looks amazing...you do great work and gives the rest of us a DIY level to aim for!!
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on March 30, 2021, 07:15:06 AM
Jack,  I had the air cleaner down to bright metal entirely. Other than the  A/C logo at the 'vaccum port?' on the snorkle there are no markings at all.

Larry, Yes, I cannot wait to get the motor back. I had hopes of having the car on the road by early summer, but I suppose its fall now.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: RamblerRacer on March 30, 2021, 07:48:18 PM
Great stuff Kerry. You are a true Craftsman with both wood and metal.

JT
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on April 05, 2021, 07:49:23 AM
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Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on April 05, 2021, 07:53:29 AM
Been working on misc small stuff waiting on the big day! Got a coat of semi gloss on the air cleaner, still a couple of parts to install on that to finish, cleaned and painted the linkage and side cover of the trans. I got a 'Hurst Pit Pack' from Ames, this has the new brass bushings and correct spring clips for the linkage connections. I put in pics of the old misc. worn out stuff I removed and a pic of what the new looks like. Anybody that has one of these trans should spend the $14 and replace that stuff. It made a world of difference in how tight the linkage is now.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on April 05, 2021, 07:59:44 AM
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How many people have a Hurst equipped work bench  :grin:

Polished the corroded handle up nicely, and took some oooo steel wool to the handle to get rid of the rust. Still a bit of pitting, but it is def. servicable. I was thinking of 1. getting a new one-$400 :shock: OUCH, not gonna do that. 2. get this one replated, but after cleaning I think the bad will be under the boot and hidden. So gonna live with it as is for now.
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Another $10 part from Ames, I didnt check but with the part no. GM parts direct may have it for cheaper, or maybe even NAPA
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I didnt like that the replacement was black, there are 2 options, the white one which looks more correct is at a right angle not straight. Once installed if I find the white one will work I will swap it out.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on April 05, 2021, 08:02:07 AM
Last pic for now is of the bottom of the trunk floor after I took out the fuel tank. Its nice not to have to deal with rust!
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Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on April 05, 2021, 08:04:15 AM
Other than getting some small stuff taken care of nothing major happening. Going to make by weekly check with the shop to see if the motor has come back from the machinist yet. I ordered a new gas tank and fuel lines to be delivered to the Carlisle show, that saved about $400 in shipping. Wont have them until at least the 21st though. In the meantime trying to get some stuff put back together.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: FormTA on April 05, 2021, 10:26:03 AM
Ooh, I didn't realize this was a 4 speed car. This should be a fun option to your 77.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on April 05, 2021, 01:03:47 PM
Ooh, I didn't realize this was a 4 speed car. This should be a fun option to your 77.
Absolutely!! Biggest reason I bought it to begin with.  I was talking to Ryan at one time when he was about to switch out his motor, and came within inches of buying his. But, I figure the biggest value this car has is the original 4 speed drive train.  I have driven a lot of trans ams, going back to 1980. I have NEVER driven one that is a 4 speed!! Very much looking forward to it.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 05, 2021, 01:20:30 PM
I can attest that he was very close to buying haha. Kinda wish he did, but I understand why not.

My 76 had that exact same shifter in it when I bought it. Very comfortable in the hand.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: 5th T/A on April 05, 2021, 02:38:20 PM
Kerry,

It’s been almost a year now since I joined TAC. In that time I have been watching you turn various parts and assemblies that look like crap into a beautifully restored part. I am still amazed every time you do it. Your a very talented person, great inspiration for me and others on TAC on what elbow grease and TLC can do.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: FormTA on April 05, 2021, 05:47:52 PM
Kerry,  was thinking hard about buying Ryan's LS combo for my 67. That was a great deal! I half wish my car was still the 301 4 speed but I love the LS power and ease of use. I really wish I would have bought a LS 5 speed donor car but the price was right for what I got.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on April 11, 2021, 12:31:29 PM
One little piece at a time. Didnt get to check on the motor in the last couple of weeks. Kinda dont want to hear the bad news (that its still at the machinist). I hope to drop by one of these days and see a nice long block on the engine stand!
In the meantime I am trying to get all of the little bits that need refreshed done and put back.  One small thing was the wiper arms and motor. I had re finished the motor, got a kit to patch the pump back up and was ready to roll. Then there was a thread on the py forum regarding the date/product sticker. This discussion led to proper finish. I painted the bottom half of my motor satin black, same as I did on my 77. I have seen a few restored this way figured it was right. WRONG.  The original had a slight goldish tint on the bottom half. I scraped off my sticker and found remnants of the original hue. So I stripped it down again and lightly misted some gold spray. May not be perfect but it looks closer to correct than black.

I also ordered a correct date coded sticker from ECS, it is close but does not match the original in size and layout. Oddly enough I have a buddy restoring a similar car and he too got a sticker from ECS. The one he got looks perfect!!


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Very faint gold under where the sticker was.

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Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: FormTA on April 11, 2021, 07:12:15 PM
OK, I'll pack mine up and ship it to you. I haven't even got to it yet, it's still in a box somewhere....

Yours looks amazing! You really do some great work!
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on April 12, 2021, 06:36:26 AM
Thanks Luke, send it out  :grin:,  the plastic cover was broke in a few places. I was searching and couldnt find one so I patched this one up with some 'glass and bondo. Far from perfect but it looks better than cracked.  Ames had them in their cat., I was surprised to see them so I placed an order. Something like $75 for the whole unit. BUT it was back ordered. I still have my eyes out looking for one.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on April 26, 2021, 07:01:41 AM
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Block off plate in the air plenum cleaned up with a new seal. I have been looking all over for some foam rubber that is like the original. No luck. Guy had Carlisle had a 500ft roll of this stuff, tore a piece off the corner and gave it to me. Its a bit thinner than  the original but will work in the meantime.
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And my haul,  new fuel tank from firebird central, along with new fuel lines (sending unit was backordered), new cold case radiator. I did get the driver side line installed over the weekend now I need to get the pass side lines in. Still waiting for word on my motor :(
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 26, 2021, 09:06:45 AM
I wanted to go to Carlisle so bad this year, but I'm tapped out... I'll definitely be there next year though. Might even grab a vendor spot.  :cool:
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: 5th T/A on April 26, 2021, 03:03:52 PM
Kerry,

Looks like a nice haul from Carlisle. I always wanted to attend one of their events, but it’s a long way for me. Trying to work something out where I can visit my daughter and grandchildren in Alexandria VA and make Carlisle as a side trip.

Hope you hear back on your engine soon.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on April 27, 2021, 06:11:00 AM
Radiator was kinda spur of the moment. Kinda like Jonathon, Wed my 'liquor money' came in!!  I am a resident agent for a store, only strings attached is I get a nice stippend once a year when the license needs renewed. I typically use that as my 'play' money. Its not retirement money but I did get my parts out of it!
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: jonathonar89 on April 27, 2021, 06:29:42 AM
Good way to spend the play money...something that still retains some sort of value and brings added value to your asset ;).  I’ve been thinking about getting one of those Cold Case radiators myself.  They sell them for LS swap vehicles with inlent/outlet on the passenger side.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on May 04, 2021, 06:30:01 AM
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Still not much going on but the 'behind the scenes' boring stuff. New fuel tank along side the old one. New sending unit installed need to get some more tubing then I will have it ready for install. I got this from Firebird Central, picked up at Carlisle show to save on shipping. I am very happy with it and wanted to get one with the neck soldered in place. Some sell the necks loose. Also picked up fuel lines. The supply line on the driver side fit really good, not perfect but with a bit of tweaking worked out. The pass side return and vapor lines werent even close. I was able to re bend the return line to make it work but it looks a bit sloppy. The vapor line was non existent, and there was 1 line included that I am still trying to figure where it goes?  I ended up getting some nicop off of amazon and bending my own. As typical of all the plumbing jobs I do 3 trips to the 'hardware store' are involved. I didnt order enough tubing the first go round, next order to be in on thursday. Needed to order spring wrapping the stuff I had was too small. And a trip to a couple of stores to get a good tubing bender.


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My original vent line and the nicop straightened from the coil

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New one bent up. Need the spring then I can put this in place. Not perfect but I am sure it will be as close as the return line I installed.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 04, 2021, 08:03:58 AM
Looks great Kerry. I love NiCopp.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: 5th T/A on May 04, 2021, 03:02:07 PM
Kerry,

Nice job on the tubing bends. Having recently done some of this myself, I have an idea of what you went through. As Ryan mentioned NiCopp is great to work with, a lot more flexible than hard steel. If you have to tweak a line a little to make it fit, it's pretty easy to make small adjustments with your hand.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: olds403 on May 11, 2021, 07:30:48 PM
Nice restoration.  How did you determine where to overlay the dark gray over the silver ?  Did you lay it out with decals or measure off another 10th Anniversary. We are at this stage ourselves.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: TATurbo on May 11, 2021, 08:20:18 PM
Super impressed with the bending skills! I made a couple of attempts at a couple of different lines.  Thankfully, I'm wasn't doing a stock restoration...'cause I was pretty bad at it.  I ended up using pre-bent lines for the brake system and rubber coated PTFE for everything else (Fuel system, Trans cooler, and Power steering). 
The new lines look great!
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: roadking77 on May 12, 2021, 07:08:23 AM
Thanks Tom, The pre bent stuff def looks better, and the nicop bends super easy. But tucked up under the car they look fine together. I started awhile ago with brake lines and wasnt 100% happy so I ended up buying pre bent front to back brake lines. Then I decided what the heck and bought the fuel lines. The big problem was that the pass side lines werent even close to fitting. They were marked for a 79 trans am but I think that was a mistake.

Olds,  I did several things with the paint scheme. First thing I study pictures of these cars and minute details almost daily. The good thing is there are still a lot of original's to look at. I surmised that the top door edge colour change is split by the mirror base, so I used that as a starting point. I paralleled that line down the door top. The over the roof width is pre determined (got the measurement from an original car), and for the life of me cannot remember what that distant is off hand. I can get it for you. Something like 1-1/4". I had some traces of original paint on the door jambs so that helped me align all the points. My biggest hurdle was the swoop across the fender top that is the transition from the door to the hood. I traced an original paint car at a show and made a paper template. I also have an original paint hood that I temp. installed to make sure every thing lined up. Hope this helps, let me know if I can offer any thing else.
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: olds403 on May 12, 2021, 06:04:46 PM
Thanks Roadking
Ours is very close to this stage so anything you can share is appreciated
Mike
Title: Re: My Tenth Anniv.
Post by: Nexus on May 12, 2021, 06:52:43 PM
As the others mentioned, those came out great!!