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What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« on: November 11, 2024, 06:44:17 AM »
I figured I would pick up from another thread with a related title instead.

So many projects suffer a slow death due to many circumstances. What keeps you motivated to keep a project going?

When I built my 77 the big motivation was my brother walking into my garage right after I had the car completely stripped. He walked around for a few minutes silent before making the comment, 'I hope you know how this goes back together'. Then got on his motorcycle and left. The truth was I had no idea how everything was going to go back, but I was not going to let him win. Eventually the car became a reality.
I do almost everything myself and on a tight budget so a resto takes years. Along the way there are lull's for months at a time. Every so often I got lucky and things fell into place and moved along at a good pace with lots of stuff getting done. That is motivation for moving forward. When things get tiresome or stale, restoring small parts that will be needed later make for good mini projects. My big motivation to getting my current project finished is the thought of starting yet another project. Yes I must be a glutton for punishment.
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85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2024, 10:03:18 AM »
I started with the desire to put the '71 together for Silver State Classic style events. That changed when the '78 broke all the top rings at a missed shift and inspection of that engine revealed that the shop that built it for the previous owner did not select the proper valve train components and cracked all the lifter bores loose. - That explained the weird oil pressure fluctuations! Built the BW 4 spd. that was behind it, got a good heavy Hayes race clutch and installed the '70 4 bolt, HO crankshaft based, high compression 462 that I had built to put in the '71. I still miss the acceleration of big cubes, 4 speed with 4.11 rear gear. It would only run about 100 - 105 on the top end, but it got there real quick!

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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2024, 11:33:57 AM »
I have personally observed several deaths with restoration projects, not mine but several buddies. I made it a point to work on my project EVERYDAY… I work shift (Air Traffic) note…tinpusher, and either before or after my shift, sometimes working 6 day weeks, I would usually put in 2-4 hours daily. Automotive therapy was/is my escape listening to some tunes with the dogs. Too many people try to do everything in one day, get frustrated and the project stalls.
Stay organized, make a list to accomplish, daily or weekly,  a reasonable list and complete it. You will see your progress.
Also watching selective car shows on the TV while working kept me going. My 74 won top 25 out of 150 at a recent car show, very proud of myself for sticking with it, now looking for a 68/69 GTO for my next challenge.

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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2024, 11:53:25 AM »
I’m not sure if I qualify or not partly since I don’t consider my car a restoration. I haven’t put nearly the amount of work into it as others and it’s far from perfect. But I bought it when I was 23 or 24 with limited space (and knowledge to be honest) but the price was right, I had the means and it was running and driving. That said, I’ve done things in a roundabout way by chipping away little by little over the 14 years I’ve had it but always in a way that allows me to still drive and enjoy it.

I’ve probably made things harder on myself by doing it that way but in general, with the exception of paint and some engine work a few times, the car isn’t down longer than a few weeks at most. I wouldn’t be surprised if I’ve cost myself more money doing it that way over the years and I’ve definitely experienced a “two steps forward, one (or sometimes 4) step(s) backward” circumstance. So, short answer, is if I don’t stay motivated to keep working at it I have a hard time enjoying it. Working on it is also my therapy. I don’t get a lot of time with a 2 year old and 4 month old at home but I do what I can when I can.

I also know if the thing becomes stagnant, there’s a greater possibility of it getting sold and although I consider myself pretty fortunate I know if I sell this one, I’ll probably never be able to get another one.
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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2024, 12:34:22 PM »
In my circumstance I moved away from my Camaro (1970) after my time in the navy where I drove it it from ny to Virginia many times and even once from Mississippi to home . Working took over and soon family and a self built home became the years I lost dreaming about a car to restore or rescue. Watching all those cars on computers kept me looking tho and eventually I found something that reminds me of those days and being a 1979, the year I graduated, was a plus.
My car will never win shows or inspire others but it shines in my garage (in my mind at this point) and turning wrenches on it gives me satisfaction which I hope I’ll never lose

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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2024, 04:14:37 PM »
I'll tell ya where I'm not getting it from... this place.

I think I just saw a tumbleweed roll by.
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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2024, 08:33:48 PM »
My main motivation from the beginning was to give me a good distraction from work.  Needed to find a hobby (geez this can be an expensive hobby).  Now that the car is largely done I still try to find some random things to improve on it.

I realized after doing the LS engine swap the T/A was going to become a lifer (my rest of life sports car).  I had always had a modern sports car before the T/A, but performance wise it’s close enough to my past Camaros and Challengers but has way more character.  Given that I can’t imagine selling it I don’t mind the time and investment in it now.  Looks like the daily driver is going to be a pickup truck for awhile.

Good news too is we’re finally having some classic car gatherings around here again.  Took a long time to get them going again post COVID.  Nice to show the car to others that appreciate them. 
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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2024, 09:16:20 AM »
My '79 is an older restoration (to what degree, I'm not sure). It's had a repaint in the factory Starlight Black with BC-CC and is fairly nice, but it needs a compound and polish, though. The interior is one of the car's highlights - I can't tell what interior parts are repro or new, but I know some of them are, but not all of them. And the engine is decent enough. My car is a step above a driver, but below a show car, if I can put it that way - basically a real nice driver and is very complete and original. I'm in the same position as b_hill in that I bought mine the way it is, and have mostly just been maintaining it; finding things to do with it to perfect the tuning and driveability; and eliminate all leaks (which I've finally done).

I'm not in a financial position right now to do a full-blown restoration on a car, and my '79 shows pretty nicely so I'm happy enough with it the way it is for the time being. But I certainly have plans for it. I just need to pay off an LOC I opened to do some repairs on my house, and that will free up the space I need to contribute to another investment account to save toward my future plans with my T/A. I want to restomod it into a somewhat higher-end build. We're talking Roadster Shop frame; rear mini-tub; period correct 18-19" Snowflakes; 461 Stroker Pontiac w/ Holley EFI; Tremec 6-Speed; Ford 9"; the works. Out of all that, though, the biggest expense is that I want the car taken down to bare metal and repainted to near perfection. My car is mostly rust-free and is solid metal all around according to a magnet, but there are some small spots you can find if you intentionally go looking as is with most of these cars, which tells me you never know what may be lurking underneath; so if anything the strip down to bare metal and repaint is for peace of mind, more than anything else. It means I'll know everything about my car, inside and out. This future build in parts alone will easily cost in excess of 80K - add another 20-30k for properly done needed rust repair and a good repaint and I'm in over 100k+, so I figure I'll probably be contributing to the account for at least 8-10 years. Good thing is, I have a very solid vision on how I want the car to look and what parts I'm going to use (assuming they're still available by then). This is all assuming I do not, by then, have a foundational knowledge or skill on doing metal or body work myself, which could easily alter the cost of the entire thing. I would definitely like to learn to weld, and I know myself enough to know with my penchant for perfection that it's something I can get very good at if I put in the time.

I don't want the car apart at all until I have all the parts I need and am ready to immediately send it to a shop to get it stripped/repaired/and repainted. Because like I always hear, it's when a car is apart and sits that motivation goes down the drain, which would be VERY disheartening for me since I'll have been used to actually driving the car around and having fun with it prior to that, unlike most folks who buy the car as a project to begin with. I would ideally like to minimize the amount of time it's apart. Good thing is, the only thing I plan to spend labor on is the assembly of the engine and the rust repair/body work (which, yes, I know, is the most expensive part, haha). I'm fully capable of assembling and disassembling everything else myself. Ideally I'd just like to send the car to a paint shop as a roller and then get it back as a roller and I take it from there.

Good thing about me is that I'm very single-minded, and I devote all my attention to one thing. My '79 will be my only enthusiast car I'll probably ever own, and therefore it will be the only project I'll ever do. Once I'm done with it, I'm going to enjoy it and rest easy. There are other cars I wouldn't mind having, but I don't need them - I got my dream car.

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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2024, 08:00:34 PM »
Uh, I did not buy my car the way it is lol. I’ve done quite a bit of work over the years.
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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2024, 11:58:56 PM »
Uh, I did not buy my car the way it is lol. I’ve done quite a bit of work over the years.

Dude, all these years I had always assume you got your car that way rofl.

My mistake, indeed. It's come a long way. You did the repaint yourself?
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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2024, 10:45:21 AM »
I didn’t tackle the paint myself. Although I’d like to and may paint some small parts that’s not been in my skill set. I farmed that out along with some engine work. Other engine work an everything else,  I’ve done
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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2024, 09:55:07 AM »
For me it’s making a goal for the project, race truck was the first race, 67 bronco was a 5 state trip 3600 miles and 250 of them off road. For the Trans am it was Trans Am nationals, I have more work to do on it but have no goal so it sits in the garage, still drivable thought.

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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2024, 02:22:54 AM »
I cannot watch much TV so doing a project is my default setting.

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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2024, 03:19:44 PM »
To have a cool car :D

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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2024, 07:00:47 PM »
Fear of public humiliation!
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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2024, 06:43:25 AM »
I have always wanted a TA.  My end goal is a driver but a nice looking one.  Won't be in the rain or snow, but if I get caught out in the rain I won't lose my mind.  I wish I was in a warmer climate as I would drive it all the time.
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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2024, 06:03:46 PM »
Same here Dave, Im not sure if its good or bad that I cannot drive my car to work. I wont take it out of the house if its raining by the few times I have been caught in the rain I realized it didnt melt :grin: For the first few years after its restoration I didnt drive it that much for a couple of reasons. One, I didnt want to put a lot of wear and tear. Including road damage that may harm the paint. A few years ago my son told me to get it out and drive it and enjoy it while I can. He said bluntly, when Im gone he is gonna sell so I may as well get my use of it :shock: :shock: He has since changed his mind on selling it as he has a soft spot for it now as well, but I did start to drive it more. I figured no sense keeping it super nice for the next person to enjoy it.
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79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2024, 06:49:38 AM »
I didnt drive it that much for a couple of reasons. One, I didnt want to put a lot of wear and tear. Including road damage that may harm the paint. A few years ago my son told me to get it out and drive it and enjoy it while I can. He said bluntly, when Im gone he is gonna sell so I may as well get my use of it :shock: :shock: He has since changed his mind on selling it as he has a soft spot for it now as well, but I did start to drive it more. I figured no sense keeping it super nice for the next person to enjoy it.
I am sure mine will be sold when I pass, but I told my son, "I got it as a restoration project, that's how you're getting it"
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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2024, 06:52:38 AM »
My other motivation is to drive it on a road trip some day.......
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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2024, 07:05:50 AM »
My other motivation is to drive it on a road trip some day.......

I've taken mine on several of those, what a blast!

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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2024, 11:04:27 AM »
My other motivation is to drive it on a road trip some day.......
I too would like a road trip ,it is good motivation ,and will probably stop by some of my critic’s homes

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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2025, 09:49:50 AM »
For me it's spite!

I really want to get it back together, driving and on the road so that I can give all the people who said I wouldn't, couldn't, and to get rid of it, the two-handed middle finger after I do.

Plus, it's my dream car that I've owned since I was 20, and then sadly stripped apart. I am now 48
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« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2025, 12:47:14 PM »
For me it's spite!

I really want to get it back together, driving and on the road so that I can give all the people who said I wouldn't, couldn't, and to get rid of it, the two-handed middle finger after I do.

Plus, it's my dream car that I've owned since I was 20, and then sadly stripped apart. I am now 48

Start a restoration thread here with pics and we'll keep you motivated :D

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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2025, 07:01:10 AM »
I have one on the go, but with me working primarily on the engine, I have little to show in the way of progress on the build overall but I will have some updated photos hopefully by the end of next week to show its current state.

I believe the thread is called "This is Ruby"

Sorry, this is slightly off topic
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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2025, 05:57:09 AM »
Motivation is really not my problem (sounds like the beginning of an AA meeting). Mine is focusing. I have a lot of toys and projects. Keeping them all running and functioning is tough. I have all of these grand projects that I really love the envisioned end results. Also, my projects are never small ones. I'm like Kerry where I doo every on it too from paint to engine rebuilding, I do draw the line at transmission rebuilds through.

I get bored with one build and then move on to the next one. Right now my "Motivation" to finish the 1949 Ford truck is I need space in my shop. This truck is taking up 3 bays. I also really want to get my other Formula on the road as it will be a 4 speed amd those are fun to drive. I also have another F body, a 1967 rs Camaro that is 80% finished and it's a great looking car.

As I get older I am starting to realize that I may not have enough time to actually build all of the projects I have accumulated.  So to actually get these done, I believe I may not agonize over them being perfect, in the end it really doesn't matter, as long as I enjoy the build and the car when it's on the road.
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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2025, 06:43:54 AM »
Again, I think we were separated at birth :lol: I have a lot of shop space but fortunately for me it is filled with woodworking stuff which is what helps to pay the bills. Otherwise I would have at least 2 things going on at once. The closer I am getting with the T/A the more I want to get started with my next project. I know this may sound crazy to a lot of people but I enjoy removing a spot of rust and welding in a new patch panel. Taking something that is derelict and making it new again. Its as much about the tinkering with stuff as it is driving, almost :grin: I found a book the other day and saw that I started on my 77 in 2011. So in 14 years I have finished one and almost finished the second. I will be 61 in a few days and at that rate I figure I may have one more in me if Im lucky.
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2025, 10:19:23 AM »
This is my 1981 TA SE as of end of 2024. Mind you, the car was in pieces from the cowl forward and the dash was also out. It is now a paint, wheels, decals away from being %80 complete to my standards. I started the project back in 2005. Made very little progress until 2019 and hit it really hard starting with the pandemic lockdown!

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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2025, 07:13:43 PM »
The pandemic got my car 90% donee too!
79 Trans am low buck LS swapped
79 Formula 301 (Work in progress)
67 RS Camaro (waiting it's turn)
69 Dodge charger on late model charger chassis
49 Ford F1 on a 2003 Chevy ZR2 Chassis (current project)
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Re: What Is Your Restoration Motivation
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2025, 08:33:44 AM »
Looks good, maybe a new set of sneakers just got installed :grin:

Pandemic had most likely negative effect on my progress. I sent my motor out Jan 5 2020. I figure it would be back in a couple of months. I have honestly lost track now but it was 2 maybe 3 years in shop (most on here know my long ordeal :shock:). I was able to get some stuff done but for the most part the car just sat. And my work load actually ramped up during that time so I have very little down time to work in the shop.

I admit I have not read through the entire thread for awhile, this may be redundant but I will update my current motivation. As I am getting closer I would really like to have my car on the road this summer. I do not have any one show that I would like to make with it other than setting my first show goal for Hershey this fall.
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

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« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2025, 08:33:44 AM »
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