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S-10 rear brakes
« on: September 16, 2024, 06:17:39 AM »
I am curiuous if these are better than what came on the cars with the 4 wheel dick brakes or if this is just an easier option going from drums to disks. 
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Re: S-10 rear brakes
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2024, 06:22:58 PM »
If you are wanting to convert to disc, I have been told (cannot confirm) that the third gen rear bolts right up. Find one with disc brakes and your good to go.

I have not converted the rear on my car but restored. The original parts are not available but replacement stuff is out there. It was a pain but I finally got things together. I can see why one would use s10 brakes.
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Re: S-10 rear brakes
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2024, 06:12:43 AM »
If you are wanting to convert to disc, I have been told (cannot confirm) that the third gen rear bolts right up. Find one with disc brakes and your good to go.

I have not converted the rear on my car but restored. The original parts are not available but replacement stuff is out there. It was a pain but I finally got things together. I can see why one would use s10 brakes.
I have 4 wheels disks but read an article where a TA with 4 wheels disks swapped to the S-10 rear disks, but didn't explain why, so I was a bit confused
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Re: S-10 rear brakes
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2024, 12:13:07 PM »
Probably because the S10 brakes are easier to adjust the parking brake and parts are easier to aquire
 I have installed S10 rear disks on a none Body project and the are easy to work with and work well.

I also have the 4th gen rear disks on my 79 with an 81 master cylinder with 17" wheels they are amazing.  It stops on a dime and the pedal feel is like a new car. It's great!

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Re: S-10 rear brakes
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2024, 11:07:32 PM »
Don't waste your time with the "Third Gen" rear Disc. I have Two 3rd gens with them. Unless you already have everything, i.e. a wrecked car with everything available. Otherwise they are junk. I drove the 86TA for years with only the front brakes, because the rears would never properly adjust no matter how many times you pulled up on the "Emergency Brake Handle". GM did a recall on them. It was only on the Stick Cars. Automatic Cars...Pound Sand...Just put it in Park. It didn't matter if you got rebuilt, rebuilt them yourself, or took it to a shop. Eventually they would simply stop adjusting. I probably have half a dozen or more pairs that I pulled from wrecked cars, trying different kits, used for cores, door stops etc. I bought 4th gen brakes intending to do a swap, but the car got totaled first. Truck turned in front of me, wiped out the drivers side of the car.   

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Re: S-10 rear brakes
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2024, 06:34:23 AM »
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Re: S-10 rear brakes
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2024, 10:40:16 AM »
The S10 rear brakes are very similar to the 4th gen LS1 rear brakes that Luke has. Both are a great choice and are a huge upgrade over the early factory rear disk brake setups. With a 2nd gen though, you have to get two Left Hand assemblies to clear the rear shocks. They can still be found at the pick-a-part yards because I just picked up a pair for my 55. I've used the "LS1" rear disks on all of my cars and they perform very well. One cool thing about the S10 backing plates though vs, the LS1 is that they are set inboard a little deeper and if you ever plan to upgrade to a larger disk, like 13", you can run the factory Brembo calipers that came on the SS Camaro models for Gen5 and 6.

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Re: S-10 rear brakes
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2024, 04:47:05 AM »
That is interesting about the brembo.

You don't HAVE to get two left, only if you want to easily connect a parking brake. I used a left and right off of the donor car I had. You could use an electronic emergency brake or come up with a clever cable route to make the e brake function. Just explaining the reason Ryan said you need two left. Because the way the second gen shocks are you have to have the calipers flipped to clear the shock which puts the direction if pull for the cable the wrong way. I don't have an emergency brake (I have explained in other posts my thoughts on them).

Either way, both are great options. I'd also like to hear more about the brembo upgrade.
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Re: S-10 rear brakes
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2024, 05:17:20 AM »
If you are wanting to convert to disc, I have been told (cannot confirm) that the third gen rear bolts right up. Find one with disc brakes and your good to go...

Not true at all.  The 3rd Gen will not fit a 2nd: completely different types of suspension (leaf vs. coil sprung torque arm).  Supposedly 3rd and 4th will interchange.


Probably because the S10 brakes are easier to adjust the parking brake and parts are easier to acquire
 I have installed S10 rear disks on a none Body project and the are easy to work with and work well...

Technically the earlier 2nd and 3rd Gen brakes are self adjusting - but rarely work correctly.
 
The 4th and S10 brakes you must remove the rotor and caliper to get to the adjustable expander for the parking shoe.

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Re: S-10 rear brakes
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2024, 06:35:25 AM »
Thank you for clarifying that. I have a buddy that said he took a complete disc rear out of a third gen car and bolted to his second gen, but IT was him telling me. I did not see it happen.
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Re: S-10 rear brakes
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2024, 03:38:52 PM »
Thank you for clarifying that. I have a buddy that said he took a complete disc rear out of a third gen car and bolted to his second gen, but IT was him telling me. I did not see it happen.
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa....Now that's one for the books. I would really like to see that happen. Most important the 2nd gen rear is Light Years stronger than the third gen. Total waste of time and energy. 

Re: S-10 rear brakes
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2024, 03:38:52 PM »
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