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b3nny

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Recommendations for Fire extinguisher
« on: September 10, 2021, 06:11:33 AM »
Hi after getting a shock the other day and inspecting some very old suspect wires, i think it might be good to get a fire extinguisher for inside my TA. - Just in case. Anyone have any recommendations for type and or mounting techniques, where to buy etc. I see on amazon they sell kits for roll bars, obviously not going to work in my TA but there must be something.

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Re: Recommendations for Fire extinguisher
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2021, 06:59:55 AM »
I have a small one in my car. I think its a generic abc. I have them in all of my vehicles, every car should have one. I do admit that mine is on the floor behind the pass seat which is not ideal. In the event of a crash it can become a projectile, but that may be the least of my worries if that happens. I have been tempted to screw the mounting bracket to the 'hump' right behind the console. I think 'halon' may be recommended for cars as they cause less damage than a regular one but they are quite pricey.
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Re: Recommendations for Fire extinguisher
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2021, 07:22:11 AM »
I haven’t purchased one yet, which I now regret cause the price has increased, but I plan to get one of these …

https://www.webstaurantstore.com/buckeye-2-5-lb-halotron-fire-extinguisher-with-fixed-nozzle-and-dot-vehicle-bracket-rechargeable-untagged-ul-rating-2-b-c/47270251.html

and also keep a standard extinguisher in the trunk. Standard ones are inexpensive enough but the halotron (or halon if they’re still available. I think they may not be) are good for interior fires. They use gas to displace oxygen and suffocate the fire, including electrical fires, without leaving a mess of chemical powder behind. Obviously between leaving a mess of powder and having your car burn up the powder is the lesser of two evils but I still like the idea of trying the halotron extinguisher first if possible and then resorting to a standard chemical extinguisher.

It sucks they increased in price though. They used to only be like $85.
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Re: Recommendations for Fire extinguisher
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2021, 07:24:52 AM »
I have a Halon substitute but don't recall the name at the moment.  Mine too is located behind the drivers seat but wrapped in bubble warp with an opened end.  Trunk is not a good idea.  Had someone post that a fire started at the fuel cap and he was not able to open the trunk.  ABC is a last resort.  The chemicals are quite corrosive.  If it is an electrical fire first thing is to disconnect the battery, which can only be done with a quick disconnect.

It's what b_hill has.  ^^
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Re: Recommendations for Fire extinguisher
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2021, 08:26:19 AM »
I have a Halon substitute but don't recall the name at the moment.  Mine too is located behind the drivers seat but wrapped in bubble warp with an opened end.  Trunk is not a good idea.  Had someone post that a fire started at the fuel cap and he was not able to open the trunk.  ABC is a last resort.  The chemicals are quite corrosive.  If it is an electrical fire first thing is to disconnect the battery, which can only be done with a quick disconnect.

It's what b_hill has.  ^^

Wished he had lol.
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Re: Recommendations for Fire extinguisher
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Re: Recommendations for Fire extinguisher
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2021, 02:12:11 PM »
I said halon but after posting I thought that I read that they are not available anymore. There is a 'car specific' type of extinguisher I suppose its the halon substitute.
I would think trunk is the last place for one. Like mentioned when and if needed it will be an emergency, one doesnt want to have to fumble around to find it. May not be your car that needs it but someone elses. I know ABC isnt the best choice but better than nothing. I think I would rather repair extinguisher damage than a lost car.
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Re: Recommendations for Fire extinguisher
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2021, 06:32:47 PM »
Kerry, truth be told, I somehow missed you even mentioning halon. It may be available still. I’m not sure. And I agree. I wouldn’t keep my only extinguisher in the trunk but maybe a backup.
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Re: Recommendations for Fire extinguisher
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2021, 05:31:27 AM »
Great replies i cant find Halon online really anywhere. Still struggling to find a car variant. But you guys have encouraged me to NOT use the trunk! Thanks.
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Re: Recommendations for Fire extinguisher
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2021, 06:52:00 AM »
I think Griots Garage had car specific extinguishers in their catalogue at one time, give them a try. 
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Re: Recommendations for Fire extinguisher
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2021, 09:57:00 AM »
Personally, I like these.

https://elementfire.com/collections/allproducts

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08K99LPQX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Not cheap, but compact and I have seen them in action.  There are different models on how long you want them to last.

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Re: Recommendations for Fire extinguisher
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2021, 08:34:31 AM »

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Re: Recommendations for Fire extinguisher
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2021, 02:02:43 PM »
Holy Cow! That thing is inexpensive. I may have to go to their site and order a couple.  I dont think I have ever seen an extinguisher for less than $40!!!
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Re: Recommendations for Fire extinguisher
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2021, 05:28:30 PM »
Thanks for putting the bug in my head. I think about fires often. Things go down hill really fast and being able to react to a fire in seconds can make all the difference in saving or losing your car. I will go to Menards tonight and pick up a couple.

When I did my engine upgrade I made sure all electrical was done right and fused properly. I was extra cautious with my fuel system too. Anyone driving an old car needs to double check their electrical and fuel systems. Things deteriorate as they age, and who knows how well repairs were done before you owned the car.
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Re: Recommendations for Fire extinguisher
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2021, 09:40:45 PM »
I bought this halotron fire extinguisher for my Firebird - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001ECQ5NE/
It was a little cheaper last year when I purchased it, around $110. If you go with a dry chemical extinguisher and use it in the engine bay, you risk getting the dry powder inside your engine which can completely ruin it. I figured it's worth spending a little more just for this reason.

The mounting location choices in the cockpit are either going to be front passenger footwell, rear passenger footwell, or on top of the center rear transmission tunnel. Since I didn't want to drill holes in the tunnel and didn't want to see it continuously in the front, I opted for the rear passenger footwell. I don't plan on carrying rear seat passengers so this was the best location for me.

I fabricated a U-shaped bracket that mounts to the seat bolts. The extinguisher came with a quick release holder, which I bolted to my bracket, so didn't have to purchase a separate one. You can see the results in the photo below.
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Re: Recommendations for Fire extinguisher
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2021, 09:40:45 PM »
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