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vampdlight

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Does the trim tag match the vin?
« on: May 09, 2021, 06:08:20 PM »
Is there something on the trim tag that matches up with the vin?

Wallington

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Re: Does the trim tag match the vin?
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2021, 06:33:10 PM »
not enough to ID the car, just a few options like perhaps year, model, engine and where built.
Then other 2-3 VIN were stamped on firewall behind AC case/heater box. Original engine and trans have partials.

aussieta

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Re: Does the trim tag match the vin?
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2021, 11:43:03 PM »
the body number on the cowl tag and the vin number should match on the phs documents or the build sheet if you find one
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Wallington

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Re: Does the trim tag match the vin?
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2021, 03:18:35 AM »
Good point. The number on my cowl tag is listed on the buildsheet but features nowhere in my PHS paperwork. Obviously the VIN does.

Vamp, Are you trying to check if car is original or matching perhaps? Or just worried that the cowl tag has nothing matching the VIN like you might expect it should?

firebirdparts

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Re: Does the trim tag match the vin?
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2021, 06:00:57 AM »
The short answer is no.  It's just not there at all.
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1977 Y82 4-speed (red interior)
1978 Skybird 350
1978 Redbird 305
1979 Redbird 301 4-speed
1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC/SE (red)
1970 Datsun Pickup
1953 Chevy pickup (converted 4x4)
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Re: Does the trim tag match the vin?
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2021, 06:00:57 AM »

firebirdparts

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Re: Does the trim tag match the vin?
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2021, 06:01:29 AM »
This reminds me of  a sticky we need, ha ha.
I want to be like Paul Kenny when I grow up
Joe Bays
1977 Y82 4-speed (red interior)
1978 Skybird 350
1978 Redbird 305
1979 Redbird 301 4-speed
1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC/SE (red)
1970 Datsun Pickup
1953 Chevy pickup (converted 4x4)
1988 T-bird Turbo Coupe

vampdlight

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Re: Does the trim tag match the vin?
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2021, 01:51:02 PM »
I'm looking at a 78 that I'm maybe 60% sure is a y82. The seller claims it is but all I have is the vin that is so Rusted I can barely read it and the trim tag. I was hoping the last few if the vin was on the trim tag but no number on the tag is anything close to what I can read of the vin.
Vamp, Are you trying to check if car is original or matching perhaps? Or just worried that the cowl tag has nothing matching the VIN like you might expect it should?
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firebirdparts

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Re: Does the trim tag match the vin?
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2021, 03:27:34 PM »
The only stamped alt VIN is under the heater box on the firewall.  You read it from the engine side.  Not easy to get to.

There was originally a sticker on the drivers door.
I want to be like Paul Kenny when I grow up
Joe Bays
1977 Y82 4-speed (red interior)
1978 Skybird 350
1978 Redbird 305
1979 Redbird 301 4-speed
1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC/SE (red)
1970 Datsun Pickup
1953 Chevy pickup (converted 4x4)
1988 T-bird Turbo Coupe

vampdlight

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Re: Does the trim tag match the vin?
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2021, 03:41:38 PM »
Anyone speak rust? We think it's 2W87Z8L163810. I'd like to run a phs but not 100% sure I'm correct

vampdlight

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Re: Does the trim tag match the vin?
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2021, 03:42:59 PM »
Trim tag just because

aussieta

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Re: Does the trim tag match the vin?
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2021, 11:58:38 PM »
trim tag decode = just because
st78 = 1978 model .  2fs87 = pontiac firebird coupe.    L = built in van nuys plant . 198946 body number
tr19n = black vinyl interior . a51 = bucket seats  .w19lw19u = black paint lower body and upper
04d = fourth week april build.  b = black big 4.  3 = power windows . 244168 can't remember
big 4 is console, dash pad, rear parcel shelf, kick panels and something else i cant remember carpet
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1978 Y84 W72 WS6
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A Trans Am looks like it's coming over to do it

vampdlight

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Re: Does the trim tag match the vin?
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2021, 06:20:48 AM »
I know this is a dumb question but the body number in the vin and the body number on the trim tag are supposed to be two different numbers?

firebirdparts

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Re: Does the trim tag match the vin?
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2021, 06:30:29 AM »
yes. 

The VIN number is not there on the trim tag.  It is not there.  The sequence number is not there.  The unique identifiable part is not there.
I want to be like Paul Kenny when I grow up
Joe Bays
1977 Y82 4-speed (red interior)
1978 Skybird 350
1978 Redbird 305
1979 Redbird 301 4-speed
1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC/SE (red)
1970 Datsun Pickup
1953 Chevy pickup (converted 4x4)
1988 T-bird Turbo Coupe

firebirdparts

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Re: Does the trim tag match the vin?
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2021, 06:33:52 AM »
trim tag decode = just because
big 4 is console, dash pad, rear parcel shelf, kick panels and something else i cant remember

Carpet.

That's 5 areas, but GM said "4".  Most cars back then didn't have a console, so I think that's the one they didn't count.
I want to be like Paul Kenny when I grow up
Joe Bays
1977 Y82 4-speed (red interior)
1978 Skybird 350
1978 Redbird 305
1979 Redbird 301 4-speed
1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC/SE (red)
1970 Datsun Pickup
1953 Chevy pickup (converted 4x4)
1988 T-bird Turbo Coupe

vampdlight

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Re: Does the trim tag match the vin?
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2021, 12:19:46 PM »
Phs confirmed. It is not a special edition. My search continues. It was a complete basket case anyway.

Re: Does the trim tag match the vin?
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firebirdparts

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Re: Does the trim tag match the vin?
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2021, 02:34:48 PM »
Oh well, on to the next one!
I want to be like Paul Kenny when I grow up
Joe Bays
1977 Y82 4-speed (red interior)
1978 Skybird 350
1978 Redbird 305
1979 Redbird 301 4-speed
1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC/SE (red)
1970 Datsun Pickup
1953 Chevy pickup (converted 4x4)
1988 T-bird Turbo Coupe

Re: Does the trim tag match the vin?
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2021, 02:34:48 PM »
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