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Interior Clear Coat Choices
« on: March 02, 2020, 11:23:12 AM »
Hi all, I searched but didn't find the answer. I am dyeing my interior and originally tried the SEM satin clear coat which was nice but a little too shiny.  Cannot find SEM matte but I can find SEM low luster clear. Are they the same? I did go over the satin with rustoleum matte clear to dull it down but the SEM a is better product.  I have a couple bigger pieces to finish so I'm trying to confirm the low luster clear SEM product is the same or close to matte . Thanks.
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Re: Interior Clear Coat Choices
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2020, 03:25:25 PM »
Nah go with the SEM Low Lustre clear, closest to factory and even if it isn't don't tell me it isn't because i've spent too long on my interior lol. I know exactly what you mean, they sold both the High Gloss and Low lustre here, and the Low Lustre definely looks alot better than the other one, it was too flash. I used it on all of my interior pieces that I have re-done in my car. Here's some pics to illustrate what I mean:



Here you see an NOS Camel Tan console contrasted with a console bin lid that was re-done in camel tan and topped off witht he low lustre. You can kind of see a bit of shine but I'm gunna assume the console is just old and isn't as bright anymore. (Don't tell anyone but the console lid was originally black  :shock: it's going off the cliff as soon as I get an original tan one)



This might show a bit of a clearer, bigger picture. Everything except the glove box door here was re-done. A lot of different camel tan spray paint was involved, but all topped with the same SEM Low Lustre clear. One thing to note, this Low Lustre clear was mixed down here in australia, copied straight from the SEM database so i'd assume it is the same. Notice the kind of sheen and how the light reflects off the top of the dash. The dash was done at Al Knoch in the incorrect shade of camel tan colour, so I had to respray it with about 7 light coats of paint, and then about 2-3 with the low lustre clear. The grab handle, kick panel and everything else you see all was done in a similar fashion. The kick panel was sprayed in not exactly the exact factory shade of camel tan but that's when I got to the point that I was like "Man this whole let's buy $500 worth of paint stuff actually costs money I don't really care anymore".
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Re: Interior Clear Coat Choices
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2020, 05:23:09 PM »
I don't think you need the clear at all and I never use it and have done hundreds of interiors.  The only time I have had issues with interior dye is after I used clear, just not necessary, adhesion promoter is not needed either. 
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Re: Interior Clear Coat Choices
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2020, 11:38:06 PM »
It depends, many have the sheen built in. And then some are happy for you to buy extras that aren't needed but don't hurt either. I had mine custom mixed with the sheen I wanted.

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Re: Interior Clear Coat Choices
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2020, 08:49:08 AM »
Thank you for your replies... I think I will go lackluster. Doing my center console so I want it to last.

Maxthe222 - I can't see any photos in this post. Not sure if it is just not me being able to see the photos. For some reason I can't see your photos.
I do appreciate your detail response and am going for it this weekend.
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Re: Interior Clear Coat Choices
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2020, 12:43:37 PM »
I use sem low lustre clear # 13023. Have been happy with it, def not shiny. Only problem I have had with using the clear was in a humid environment it clouded over thus I had to redo everything. But if the conditions are good there shouldn't be a problem. Like squirrel I have not used the adhesion promoter and I have used it. No recommendation either way.
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Re: Interior Clear Coat Choices
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2020, 09:41:27 AM »
I use sem low lustre clear # 13023. Have been happy with it, def not shiny. Only problem I have had with using the clear was in a humid environment it clouded over thus I had to redo everything. But if the conditions are good there shouldn't be a problem. Like squirrel I have not used the adhesion promoter and I have used it. No recommendation either way.

Good to know - Thanks.
I actually got a return call today from the SEM tech line and they recommend only 2 light coats of Low Lustre clear # 13023. They said anything more than 2 coats may make it look like it is turning gray.
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Re: Interior Clear Coat Choices
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2020, 03:12:10 PM »
 Could the cloudy results been from applying too thick a coat?  I've heard furniture do that when I wasnt patient between coats.

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Re: Interior Clear Coat Choices
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2020, 03:23:57 PM »
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Re: Interior Clear Coat Choices
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2020, 03:28:37 PM »
In my case it was def. the humidity. I live in the mid atlantic and it tends to get pretty humid here in the summer. The time I had  problems it was about 90%, I knew better but did it anyway. As soon as I sprayed the first coat it clouded over, had a white'sh tint to it. I let it sit for a few days until the humidity went down a bit and re did the parts with success. I have been spraying finish (mostly laquer based) on custom furniture for years and have had problems with working in high humidity with that as well.
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Re: Interior Clear Coat Choices
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2020, 05:59:04 PM »
Usually, clouding is humidity, moreso if taking longer to dry as a result.

Yes, Max, can see your pics. A couple of the interior and one that appears to be you and an.. alpaca? um...

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Re: Interior Clear Coat Choices
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2020, 07:12:46 PM »
Yes, Max, can see your pics. A couple of the interior and one that appears to be you and an.. alpaca? um...


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Re: Interior Clear Coat Choices
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2020, 09:07:18 AM »
Max, your pics are showing up here for me too. Looks great by the way.
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Re: Interior Clear Coat Choices
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2020, 02:21:27 PM »
Max, your pics are showing up here for me too. Looks great by the way.

In no short part from your tons of info and formulas lol!
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Re: Interior Clear Coat Choices
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2020, 08:34:11 AM »
Max, your pics are showing up here for me too. Looks great by the way.

In no short part from your tons of info and formulas lol!

thanks!
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Re: Interior Clear Coat Choices
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2020, 06:01:12 PM »
Wait, can anyone else see photos?

I can see your pictures, awesome BTW. I was at work which prevented me from seeing them. At home I can see them . Thanks for posting them . Very nice.
Lemme try this

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Re: Interior Clear Coat Choices
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2020, 07:14:34 AM »
not to hijack here....but.....does the SEM "system" actually work well for plastic? I need to "re-color" my plastic door panels in my truck due to sun fade? I have always been leery of "spray painting" plastic and it ACTUALLY work out well.
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Re: Interior Clear Coat Choices
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2020, 08:09:50 AM »
I’ve never done plastic panels but I did do my console lid 5 or 6 years ago and for a piece that gets my elbow resting on it every time I drive it’s held up well.
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Re: Interior Clear Coat Choices
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2020, 05:17:49 PM »
I feel like a truck might not work as well. Like, if you use it like a work truck. No matter how well you do it, it's always going to scratch, mark, or rub off one way or another, or something might happen yada yada yada happens all the time to my interior
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Re: Interior Clear Coat Choices
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2020, 06:31:56 PM »
Easy to touch up then, don't get interior protectant on it or it makes for more cleanup prior. It probably wasn't required but I gave a light dusting coat of plastic etch primer for my NOS pieces like kick panels and trim strips. If the panels are actually molded in colour you find find a light buff with wet and dry brings back some richer colour under the faded top surface, or it may be the same. Either way, it's just been prepped for a recoat.

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Re: Interior Clear Coat Choices
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2020, 08:57:03 AM »
well one thing for sure ...in my truck it will not get rubbed off from cleaning....lol panels are molded in color just bringing them back to COLOR due to sun fade.
good to know thankyou.
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Re: Interior Clear Coat Choices
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