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firebirdparts

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Amelia Island
« on: February 04, 2020, 01:19:34 PM »
Has anybody been?  I have been thinking about it for years.  Coming up March 8th.  I have decided I am going.
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Re: Amelia Island
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2020, 01:35:50 PM »
Had to look it up... looks nice, enjoy.




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Re: Amelia Island
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2020, 04:20:06 PM »
I had an invite several years ago to show some of my motorcycles but the timing was bad. I wish I would have gone. I have been to several events of the same caliber. Not your ordinary car show but def. worth the trip. Not sure if you have checked but the tickets for these kind of events are usually in the $100+ range!
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Re: Amelia Island
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2020, 11:48:15 PM »
I told Brian about it and he said "for $100 you should get food" but of course that ticket is $600.
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1977 Y82 4-speed (red interior)
1978 Skybird 350
1978 Redbird 305
1979 Redbird 301 4-speed
1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC/SE (red)
1970 Datsun Pickup
1953 Chevy pickup (converted 4x4)
1988 T-bird Turbo Coupe

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Re: Amelia Island
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2020, 12:15:58 PM »
Well I am there rubbing elbows with the rich and famous.  Already saved $40 by parking in the grass
I want to be like Paul Kenny when I grow up
Joe Bays
1977 Y82 4-speed (red interior)
1978 Skybird 350
1978 Redbird 305
1979 Redbird 301 4-speed
1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC/SE (red)
1970 Datsun Pickup
1953 Chevy pickup (converted 4x4)
1988 T-bird Turbo Coupe

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Re: Amelia Island
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2020, 01:52:12 PM »
Sounds like fun,
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85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
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'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
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Re: Amelia Island
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2020, 01:56:33 PM »
There is a show in Lexington, KY around june or july. Keeneland Concours. I have shown motorcycles at that event. It is a beautiful venue as well. If you like Amelia you should put that one on your to do list.
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77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

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Re: Amelia Island
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2020, 05:29:31 AM »
Was parking on the grass free?




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Re: Amelia Island
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2020, 07:04:51 AM »
In my search of the internet, nobody talks about logistics at the Concours.  So here's my take on it.....

Traffic was not at all bad.  That may have been partly effected by the epidemic, I don't know.  The police make it very clear with tape where they *don't* want people parking in the ditch, so there is a lot of available parking in the ditch.  FWIW.  You can park up at the airport for $20 and that's well worth it.  Shuttle bus access in the traffic was pretty easy at least this particular year.  I think it's safe to say you could always park free if you really wanted to.  My first picture was of a Mercedes E190 parked in the ditch.  If it hadn't been for Top Gear, I wouldn't even know what one is.

I went 3 days, so I had to figure out what I would be doing on Friday and Saturday.

On Friday, there was a lengthy Auction Preview at the Ritz.  The weather was good and they have a bunch of furniture outside with the cars overlooking the ocean.  I enjoyed this about as much as the actual show.  Cars were fabulous.  Absolutely fabulous.  And they don't have crowds around them.  And total strangers that don't own them get in and crank them up.  I saw some extraordinary cars that were the sort of thing that the Concours itself wasn't going to be able to top. 

On Saturday, they have cars and coffee.  That was a big event.  Some of the Concours vendor stuff (or maybe most of it) was in place.  My pictures are on facebook and that's probably the best way for me to say what was at Cars and Coffee.  Porsche was having a factory-sponsored event on the island, so there were a lot, and I don't know if they do that every year, or frequently, or never.  Lots of interesting stuff.  There are auctions going on around the island at different locations and times, but I wasn't going to pay what it costs to get in there.  There is a Concours D'Lemons on Saturday, and it's short, ends early.  I missed it.  Being who and what I am, I would have loved to see that.  In fact I wouldn't mind having my own icon of mediocrity to show in one.

Sunday of course is the actual show and it's crowded.  Tons of people.  Roger Penske was the honored guest.  They had a bunch of old race cars, which I suppose they always do, and some cars Roger Penske had owned or raced, and then your basic categories of full classic stuff you'd expect to see.  A handful of motorcycles, like maybe 20.  There were tons of Alfas for some reason, but the featured marque was "Lozier".  Or maybe they have two featured marques, I don't know.  They have a class for "sports and GT cars" which is can be almost any year.  The bar is pretty low for that.  Outside of this calss, it looks to me like to be in the Concours, postwar American cars have to be have either European coachwork or be "limited production".  I'm not sure what Limited production is, but there were two Continental Mark II's in that class and they won both prizes.  The oddball features this year were all the rear-engined Corvette prototypes GM ever had, and then cars associated with Harley Earl (Yjob, LeSabre being two well-known ones).
« Last Edit: March 16, 2020, 07:18:27 AM by firebirdparts »
I want to be like Paul Kenny when I grow up
Joe Bays
1977 Y82 4-speed (red interior)
1978 Skybird 350
1978 Redbird 305
1979 Redbird 301 4-speed
1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC/SE (red)
1970 Datsun Pickup
1953 Chevy pickup (converted 4x4)
1988 T-bird Turbo Coupe

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Re: Amelia Island
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2020, 01:07:02 PM »
Great write up. Concours shows are def. not your ordinary mix. I have been to 'Radnor Hunt' outside of philly quite a few times. Always have had bikes in the show. Same kind of deal as you described. They always have a signature marque, then a secondary. This particular show (like most I believe) has a limited number of entrants. Radnor is 100 cars, and about 30 motorcycles. They usually have a 3 day theme as well. Radnor has a dinner on Friday night for the entrants, then on Saturday there is a road rally that I have done as well. It is really fun and entrance to the show is not necessary. Then sunday is the big show with awards. St. Michaels in MD has a really good show as well. I have also been to Keeneland in KY, again its pretty much the same formula for a 3 day event. I know the tickets to the three I mentioned start off at around $100 and up. As an entrant I haven't had to pay and they give out some pretty nice gift bags I will add! My wifes boss is good friends with one of the organizers of the St Michaels show so we got free tickets for that one as well.
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79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
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85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
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Re: Amelia Island
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2020, 01:12:47 PM »
I will add, most if not all vehicles are by invitation and a selection committee. I know from my experience once you get in one the rest kind of fall into place. At one time I had a few really nice motorcycles, winning best in show at Radnor got me entrance into the Keeneland show by association. At Keeneland I got an invite to the Amelia show and to a concours in Cincinnati, as well as one in Connecticut.
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

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Re: Amelia Island
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2020, 08:18:56 AM »
I noticed in your signature some of your bikes.  There were some at Amelia that I always wanted to see.  They was one Ariel square four, which I had seen one before, and another was a neracar.  I am a big fan of Douglas-self.com, Douglas self's web site, and he has a page about the ner-a-car.  This ner-a-car was unrestored.  They had a 1929 "majectic" which is another hub-steered bike.  I'd never heard of that, but it was very unusual.

Ner-a-car

The majestic:

Ariel square 4 with unusually fabulous sidecar



Evidently I didn't get coronavirus at Amelia, but in retrospect that was a little risky.

I want to be like Paul Kenny when I grow up
Joe Bays
1977 Y82 4-speed (red interior)
1978 Skybird 350
1978 Redbird 305
1979 Redbird 301 4-speed
1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC/SE (red)
1970 Datsun Pickup
1953 Chevy pickup (converted 4x4)
1988 T-bird Turbo Coupe

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Re: Amelia Island
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2020, 08:22:39 AM »
This is a 1913 NSU V twin.  I have never seen so much stuff going on.  I love interactive machines, but you'd need 10 hands to ride this.


My pictures are all on facebook:  They make it so easy I just dumped them there in bulk.
I want to be like Paul Kenny when I grow up
Joe Bays
1977 Y82 4-speed (red interior)
1978 Skybird 350
1978 Redbird 305
1979 Redbird 301 4-speed
1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC/SE (red)
1970 Datsun Pickup
1953 Chevy pickup (converted 4x4)
1988 T-bird Turbo Coupe

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Re: Amelia Island
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2020, 07:59:36 AM »
Those are some great bikes. I am very familiar with all but the Majestic. Having an Ariel and had several in the past a square four was on my bucket list. Our oldest bike that my brother took with to CA is a 1913 Rudge. It is very similar in appearance to the NSU you posted. I know you like mechanical things you should do a search on how this Rudge works.  Its called a 'Multi' and was very advanced for its time. Yes you need all your fingers and toes to keep it moving forward. On the Rudge you have an advance/~ lever, throttle lever (not a twisting grip but a true lever) compression release, front brake, choke on the handle bars, I may have left something out, its been awhile since I last rode it. On the side of the gas tank is an oil primer that you need to hit every so many miles to give the motor an injection. Total loss oil system. If you do a you tube search for starting a 1913 Rudge Multi you will most likely see my brother. There have been several people that have posted him over the years filming at various events. His bike is one of the few that is actually running in North America.
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

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Re: Amelia Island
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2020, 01:39:52 PM »
I will certainly do that.  I would really like to have a foot clutch/manual spark advance motorcycle, but most of that stuff is pricey, and I guess I'll never have one. 

My dad worked at Guthrie's machine shop in Atlanta in the 1950's.  He said there was a guy who worked somewhere there in the neighborhood that had a square four, and when he found out, he asked the guy to ride it to work one day.  My Dad's family were all pretty motorcycle crazy from the days when you were supposed to wear jodhpurs.  Dad says the square four is not really a good idea because of the cooling.  Just looking at it, I tend to agree, but of course I never had one.  The rear cylinder on the ubiquitous American v-twins didn't even do all that well.
I want to be like Paul Kenny when I grow up
Joe Bays
1977 Y82 4-speed (red interior)
1978 Skybird 350
1978 Redbird 305
1979 Redbird 301 4-speed
1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC/SE (red)
1970 Datsun Pickup
1953 Chevy pickup (converted 4x4)
1988 T-bird Turbo Coupe

Re: Amelia Island
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Re: Amelia Island
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2020, 09:26:30 AM »
Yes, the square fours were notorious for having cooling issues. Not the best design. Our collection was all European, mostly English bikes. There were literally hundreds of manufacturers in the early days. Many different designs. In the early days the Europeans were far more advanced than the American bikes (Harley and indian). I had my 1939 BSA gold star being judged at an AMCA event and it was sitting beside a 1935 HD. The contrast was incredible. In fact a lot of people thought I was out of the proper class (up to '40). The BSA would have been right at home style wise with the 50'-60's class compared to the HD that really had not had a design change since the early '20s.
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

Re: Amelia Island
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2020, 09:26:30 AM »
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