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meine ehre

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Australian compliant tail light indicators
« on: October 28, 2019, 04:40:19 PM »
Hi fellas.
does anyone have some pics of Australian compliant tail light indicator conversions?
cheers

Maxthe222

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Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2019, 05:08:23 PM »
Hey mate,

Who told you to ruin the original tail lights on your T/A and put the amber ones on? Are you putting your car on standard or historic rego?
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Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2019, 06:04:03 PM »
Ran across this a while back. May be a helpful alternative.

http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=72486.0
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meine ehre

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Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2019, 09:50:39 PM »
thanks for the reply mate.
I saw that post, and it looks ok, but mine is a 79 with the red inner lens. To me it looks like I would have to cut the red plastic inner and put orange/amber back in its place, which I am hesitant to do as the lights are in real good condition.

meine ehre

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Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2019, 09:53:38 PM »
hey there Maxthe222
it will be on historic/club rego but I was told by licencing that it still needs amber indicators to comply.
I hate the idea of tampering with something that looks sooo good the way it is.

Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
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Maxthe222

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Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2019, 10:18:45 PM »
Don't touch it mate, I know the requirements is that it needs the amber lights, but with historic rego you can get away with it, as part of the requirements is that the vehicle is completely original as to how it left the factory. Honestly, from what I've heard, they give you a harder time trying to get it registered if it does not come with the smog equipment on it. I had a buddy who they wouldn't give rego due to the fume-y smell from the engine bay. If it's on conditional registration, you don't need to sweat it. Back when they had to get converted to RHD it was a bit more of a problem, but they are much more leniant now. Did RMS tell you that or did the club owner who you're getting rego off tell you that? There are heaps of birds on the roads now with the red indicators.
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aussieta

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Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2019, 12:20:29 AM »
i super glued some trailer lights onto back bumper and wired them in
passed rwc/rego, took them off
i did cut and shut mine with amber, as it was a long time ago, way before club rego
you could just go back to original
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b_hill_86

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Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2019, 07:31:01 AM »
thanks for the reply mate.
I saw that post, and it looks ok, but mine is a 79 with the red inner lens. To me it looks like I would have to cut the red plastic inner and put orange/amber back in its place, which I am hesitant to do as the lights are in real good condition.

It didn’t look like he cut anything. I think that was shining through the red lens. I could be wrong though.
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meine ehre

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Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2019, 08:44:06 AM »
I had the dept of licencing tell me that. they said club rego or not if its on the road it must comply.

I might try o find some old inner lenses to cut up to get in regoed then put the good ones back on.

meine ehre

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Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2019, 08:48:11 AM »
I think you may be right b_hill, it appears the amber led keeps its colour as it shines through the red lens.

meine ehre

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Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2019, 08:51:01 AM »
I did read somewhere (cant remember where) that Pontiac had amber indicator rear lights when they were sold new in Aust and Japan. cant find anything on google but.

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Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2019, 09:17:47 AM »
There are some factory export taillights, but probably you ought to assume you won't find a set.  Once in a great while you'll see a picture of one.
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Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2019, 09:54:22 AM »
These are pricey but apparently they offer a version with amber turn signal.

http://classicta.com/PREMIUM-LED-TAIL-LAMP-KIT-FOR-1967-02-FIREBIRD-TRANS-AM_p_7061.html
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Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2019, 01:51:28 PM »
I think you just got one old bag who doesn't know what she's talking about at the RMS. Find a Pontiac club and speak to the club owner/manager about it.
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meine ehre

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Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2019, 03:46:40 PM »
would love to see a pic of the export lights.
those led inserts look good, shame to ruin them with amber on the edges.
you may be correct, old dear having a bad day, I will ring the club this arvo.

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Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2019, 12:17:30 AM »
Japan got export amber lenses, Australia did not, just imported US-spec cars. That article simply uses bright amber LED to shine through red lens. No cutting of lens, not sure how effective. While it may be effective, it may still not be legal depending who checks, and yet better than most new cars with clear cornering lamps that don't show during daylight.  A 79-81 TA has the benefit of having a smoked cover to somewhat hide mods more than other years, but also slightly limit the lighting. Club rego is still a gimmick, you can only get away with a few extras but limited by when you drive your car. Find a local auto engineer that deals with hotrods and customs, they are more lenient but also know what's safe or well built. They are handy to find out what will pass in regards to stock lighting, seat belts etc.

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Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2019, 12:49:20 AM »
when i registered my ta i had to use lights that had an adr number
or pay $350 per light to be tested to make sure they were bright enough and the right shade of orange
no amount of modifying would pass unless tested
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Maxthe222

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Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2019, 03:18:02 AM »
That's a good idea. There is going to be a old school mechianic who's qualified to give rego out, they'll know and approve the car. There are plenty of american cars that have still got red light indicators, like mustangs and corvettes. I've been pulled over.... geez a dozen times now? Drove away every time with no problem.
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meine ehre

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Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2019, 09:10:59 PM »
hi Wallington.
Im wondering if amber wasn't required when sold here how come they are enforcing it so stringently now. I have wondered myself how 'amber' a amber led globe would be through a red lens, suppose cheap enough to try it out!
Ken (a great bloke and a wealth of knowledge) off the forum was telling me about the full led conversion and the option of amber leds in each corner, this is also a avenue I will pursue.

hey there aussieta,, what a absolute rort, 350 per test, gotta love all these greedy buggers with their hands out every which way you turn!

sounds like your a bit more sedate driver than I am, I never get let off, usually booked... hahaha

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Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2019, 10:43:50 PM »
It was enforced when they were new here, led to modified lenses or added extra lamps off trailers and the like. You couldn't simply source something off ebay back then! The full LED conversions are not legal here either, at least the previous types offered. And many would still claim it isn't amber enough shining through a red lens, those superbright amber leds manage to blast through though. As with anything, it depends who you get as to what they think is important. It's nice to find a way around mods though, look original but also meet anything they throw at you if they want to be fussy.

Maxthe222

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Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2019, 04:21:40 AM »
"how come they are enforcing it now"

That's easy!

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Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2019, 05:01:54 AM »
yep, money money money....

I went to the local bottle shop for corona the other day and the chick at the register asked if I wanted some lemons with the carton, $2 each....   haven't these always been free?  didn't people put boxes of them at their letterbox with a free sign?

Re: Australian compliant tail light indicators
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