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phil400

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Door Pins
« on: April 19, 2019, 09:14:56 AM »
I changed my door pins but the door still drops abit when I open it. I remember rwading about Dorman making oversize pins to fix hinges where the holes were beat up. Mine don't look too bad but I figure this would solve the issue

Anyone know the part number of the oversize Dorman pins?
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Grand73Am

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Re: Door Pins
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2019, 09:28:34 AM »
I haven't seen oversize pins. But I have seen oversize bushings. The hinge pin kits that I've seen come with both the standard size bushings and oversized bushings. So, if your holes are too wallowed out, you use the oversize bushings to take up the slack.
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Re: Door Pins
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2019, 09:31:14 AM »
Oh ok thanks, what I had only had one set of bushings.
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Re: Door Pins
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2019, 07:49:51 AM »
I am a strong believer in adjusting.  The hinges are fully adjustable. 

Even if the holes are oversize, and they may not be, adjusting will work.  Growing up in the 70's, you could adjust those long doors and the car would just seem so much better.  It improves your whole outlook.
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Re: Door Pins
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2019, 06:47:48 PM »
Unless you posted this on another site, then my reply has gone awol. But as FBP said, check that the door striker can't be adjusted to suit, along with the hinges. It may still be setup for worn hinge location and their ability to move about with the wear. With the door open only slightly, lift it up and down, rather than obvious play it should now be more fixed to body.

Re: Door Pins
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phil400

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Re: Door Pins
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2019, 06:10:21 AM »
Ok thanks for the replies, I had the door completely off and readusted it when I changed the pins, was ok for awhile and then dropped again, when the door is open there is up and down movement. I'll try re-adusting it again
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Re: Door Pins
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2019, 03:33:16 PM »
I have been looking into this as I also am working on some sagging doors.  I read an article or saw a Utube about using squarebody pickup truck hinge pin kits because the bushing was oversize compared to the f-body.  Might be worth a look.

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Re: Door Pins
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2019, 09:43:30 PM »
Unless you posted this on another site, then my reply has gone awol. But as FBP said, check that the door striker can't be adjusted to suit, along with the hinges. It may still be setup for worn hinge location and their ability to move about with the wear. With the door open only slightly, lift it up and down, rather than obvious play it should now be more fixed to body.

Any good way to adjust the hinges without pulling the fender off or taking the door off?  I don't see how you can get to all the bolts and I have a pretty extensive set of tools to work with.

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Re: Door Pins
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2019, 02:11:02 AM »
What motley said, i'm changing my hinges too the passenger door is basically unusable. Taking the fender off also probably means the nose.
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Re: Door Pins
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2019, 07:57:38 AM »
And possibly the hood...

You can adjust the door with out removing anything though.  I have been adjusting my doors recently.  Just a socket wrench and a wrench.  Also, remove the stricker, adjust the door and then reinstall the striker.
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Re: Door Pins
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2019, 08:21:46 AM »
I rebuilt the door hinges on the right door of my 79 TA. I removed the door to do it, so access to the hinge to cowl bolts wasn't too difficult. I marked the location of the hinges to cowl before removing them, so I could put them back as close as possible to where they were. So, when I re-installed the door, it was very close, and only needed minor adjustment.
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Re: Door Pins
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2019, 08:01:34 AM »
Any good way to adjust the hinges without pulling the fender off or taking the door off?  I don't see how you can get to all the bolts and I have a pretty extensive set of tools to work with.

Normally I don't need to touch the bolts on the door itself, only on the cowl.  It's not fun, but I always have been able to do it.  There are only two ways to get in there.  When the door is open, if you can see a bolt head from outside the car then fine, you can put a socket on that.  The ones you can't see, you have to get through the inside of the hinge with an ordinary box end.

Even before ratcheting wrenches, I did it that way.
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Re: Door Pins
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2019, 08:01:34 AM »
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