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Re: California smog legal LS swap
« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2020, 07:32:30 PM »
At this point it’s an E-rod or a complete pull-out used motor with all the required smog equipment. As far as the idea of updating a 400 or 403 (my car) with newer tech like  fuel injection, trick ignition system, better catalytic converters, etc. Is what I had in mind. You’d think California would be ok with it if it stayed at the same emissions level as new and you could even say with ignition and EFI it would be ALOT better than original. Nope! If those parts are approved by CARB (California air resource board) for a 403 olds in 1979 trans am I’d be in business. But they aren’t and I don’t think the aftermarket sees that as a viable business option either. I guess my hope or dream is for someone other than GM or GM themselves can make this easier for all of us and to release cheaper E-rod style options. 5-6k for a 5.3 LS motor with 300-350hp and 4l80e combo and I would order one tomorrow.
Exactly.... I'm not specifically interested in an LS swap. I looked into buying a"Totaled"late model Tahoe/Suburban/Silverado.... but swapping all the electronics for the 4-Wheel Drive and everything involved, is way more than I want to get into. The regular Small Block TPI would give me gobs of low end torque and I already have everything to do it. The "Up Side" for California is it would be a much more efficient vehicle and pump out way lower emissions, so I'm looking at buying a place in AZ, in a county that does not require smog, registering it there and I'm good to go.

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Re: California smog legal LS swap
« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2020, 06:52:27 AM »
Could you just find an Aunt, Cousin, Mom, Dad, or etc. from a neighboring state and have them register it for you?

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Re: California smog legal LS swap
« Reply #42 on: February 19, 2020, 12:32:38 PM »
Could you just find an Aunt, Cousin, Mom, Dad, or etc. from a neighboring state and have them register it for you?
That will only work if you have a "Physical Address" in another state. You don't have to have a DL, but you do need an ID that says that's where you live/stay. Many people have tried it the other way and eventually get caught. Driving a performance oriented vehicle will get you noticed and sooner or later the B&W Racing Team will stop you. I got pulled over by the CHP, on my way to work, just because I still had the paper plates on a car I bought. They informed me that the plates had indeed been sent...(I was just to lazy to put them on). They let me go, but the very next day, I saw the CHP pull out and follow me again....Same route to work every day....Pattern....that's how they catch you...Parking Lot every day....sooner or later. And its Pricey to get it fixed.

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Re: California smog legal LS swap
« Reply #43 on: February 19, 2020, 02:03:21 PM »
Sounds like a real PITA...

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Re: California smog legal LS swap
« Reply #44 on: February 20, 2020, 07:59:33 AM »
Yeah I have that option to register to my buddies place in Vegas. But... if I have a California DL with an address in California and the car is in my name and registered in Nevada, it’s a huge red flag. The outcome would be a warning to register the vehicle in 30 days (I think) or risk impoundment. Doing a smog legal swap isn’t impossible or actually terribly difficult. I guess I just wanted to gauge or see if there was any other way to get it done. Thanks for all your responses! I’ll probably make a new CA smog legal LS swap page once I start working on it and will document everything for anyone else that wants to know how to do it

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Re: California smog legal LS swap
« Reply #45 on: February 20, 2020, 10:03:21 PM »
Is living in Ca even all that? Enough of a reason to move.

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Re: California smog legal LS swap
« Reply #46 on: February 21, 2020, 12:46:50 AM »
When it comes to emissions regulations ( especially in California) I wonder why they are so nearly  unreasonable. My point, there are only a very small percentage of the cars still on the road. Secondly , these cars for most part are not daily drivers. The overall environmental impact is less than nominal in the big picture.  In fact the environmental footprint has minimal impact on air quality .

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Re: California smog legal LS swap
« Reply #47 on: February 21, 2020, 02:20:22 PM »
When it comes to emissions regulations ( especially in California) I wonder why they are so nearly  unreasonable. My point, there are only a very small percentage of the cars still on the road. Secondly , these cars for most part are not daily drivers. The overall environmental impact is less than nominal in the big picture.  In fact the environmental footprint has minimal impact on air quality .

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Personally, I think its all about the money.....the 2019 registration on my Non Op 66 Chevelle is $123. My Non Op 76 K5 is $128.....On the other side my 15 Silverado is $463 plus the "Sales" tax I paid when I bought it. If they can make it difficult/expensive to operate, maybe you will buy a newer car and pay more in registration and sales tax. I think the only reason the current cutoff is 75, is the markup on "California Only" Approved Converters.....no money to be made on the prior years not equipped. My 66 would almost make no difference... hypothetically if I bought the E-rod for my 76....lot of approval money changed hands.

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Re: California smog legal LS swap
« Reply #48 on: February 21, 2020, 02:47:25 PM »
That, or the simple premise is you have people in state government who have a real chubby for getting those old "clunkers" off the road.

"Why do you drive an old car when you can afford a new Lexus or Mercedes?"

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Re: California smog legal LS swap
« Reply #49 on: February 21, 2020, 09:29:31 PM »
That, or the simple premise is you have people in state government who have a real chubby for getting those old "clunkers" off the road.

"Why do you drive an old car when you can afford a new Lexus or Mercedes?"

Truth be told....I don't know how it works...If the "State" gets a %of every approved item, or a blanket fee for every approval....My money is on the %...the State is way to greedy to accept a one time payment. Regarding buying new....I would have preferred to not have bought the Silverado, and changed the engine in my Blazer to the TPI engine I have.... The place to do the engine work dried up and I needed a truck yesterday. So here we are....It probably will get the TPI, just be in AZ not in California.

Re: California smog legal LS swap
« Reply #49 on: February 21, 2020, 09:29:31 PM »
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