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squirrel

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body side molding
« on: October 12, 2018, 06:10:41 PM »
looking to possibly put body side molding on my 78 ta.  looking for black pre cut fitted molding, just the stick on stuff, nothing fancy.  all i can find you have to cut to size.  used to get the stuff off 78ta.com but brett's store is closed.  links would help.
Dan from Cincinnati Ohio

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Steve B

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Re: body side molding
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2018, 07:46:38 AM »
Probably way more than you need, but maybe something to consider.

http://www.firebirdcentral.com/1970_1981_Body_Moldings_Set_p/bcm-99.htm
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squirrel

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Re: body side molding
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2018, 09:24:48 AM »
those are nice but a little bulky.  was wanting the regular type pre cut.  i used to get them no problem and brett always had them at a great price at 78ta.com but his store says its closed.  on ebay they are 13' and you have to cut them to fit. 
Dan from Cincinnati Ohio

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Grand73Am

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Re: body side molding
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2018, 06:27:43 PM »
Hitman still sells it, but on eBay. Here's a link to his eBay listing:   https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-1981-Trans-Am-Side-Body-Molding-Color-NEW/162511603849
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Re: body side molding
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2018, 06:51:27 PM »
Mine from Brett cam in a large roll in a flat box, you still have to cut them, only the opposite ends have the trimmed spears, and you'll likely still have to reglue them and hold in a clamp. I bought mine from Brett 15 years ago, still on shelf waiting for car to be painted, all the mylar coating had probably peeled by now.
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squirrel

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Re: body side molding
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2018, 07:56:42 PM »
Hitman still sells it, but on eBay. Here's a link to his eBay listing:   https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-1981-Trans-Am-Side-Body-Molding-Color-NEW/162511603849


thanks a lot for that link.  i searched ebay several times with similar search criteria and that link did not come up.  that is exactly what i wanted and what i have bought before.  it says pre cut so it better be...
Dan from Cincinnati Ohio

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Aus78Formula

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Re: body side molding
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2018, 08:22:16 PM »
Who pre-cuts it? Or is it like that from the producer for F-bodies using a template? I'll have to check mine now. Back in the day they sold tools that would create different chamfered cuts for door clearance when opening, not just square ends or extra short with large gaps.

Nup, 2 continuous strips in a roll.
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Warren Seale

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Re: body side molding
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2018, 10:14:48 AM »
Hitman's is the closest to the factory molding.  This is the original molding that was installed at the factory in 79.  Note the quarter panel piece behind the door.  It is very specific and not just a cut off from the strip.  Also note the bevel at the door hinge.





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Re: body side molding
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2018, 02:57:04 AM »
There are different types used.....dealer and factory etc.

Check out www.usgmsp.com - these are correct reproduction of the factory style. Orginally screwed on, I guess you could use a double sided tape like aftermarket ones.

https://pontiworld.com.au/usgmsp/product_info.php?products_id=7825&osCsid=6da1e1f0b95ea05c4f5e88680f6cbfc9
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Re: body side molding
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2018, 06:30:27 AM »
Leigh, original factory ones were not screwed on. The factory ones were stick-on, like the ones in the eBay listing. The stick-on ones are the ones that will be on the build sheet. There were no holes drilled into the car for the factory ones.
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Re: body side molding
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2018, 07:22:19 AM »
This has come up a few times in the past. The factory-installed moldings appeared to be the adhesive type. It's the only one that is called out in the parts manual as well as the service manuals. Others claim their car was delivered without even though ordered, and was up to dealer to install. Of course, back in the day the guys used to go from car yard to car yard installing the moldings as well as pinstripes, so didn't have to be ordered at all. My car was ordered with the moldings on the buildsheet, but also has the small holes in the doors and body, albeit welded up in previous repaint. What does that all mean, don't know, just like I don't know anything of it's previous life. Guys with 'original' cars have turned up with both types, the ends could differ.

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Re: body side molding
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2018, 07:39:21 AM »
one the ones i ordered from brett it says stick on ones are factory and drilled ones are dealer installs.  \

quick question as i have seen it both ways.  is the molding supposed to go just above the body line or below.  i have an original 77 z28 and the molding is below but most of what i have seen its above. 
Dan from Cincinnati Ohio

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1976 Mustang Cobra II 4 speed

Aus78Formula

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Re: body side molding
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2018, 07:42:51 AM »
Top of crease

Body Mold diagram2 by Aus78Formula, on Flickr

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Re: body side molding
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2018, 11:25:17 AM »
perfect diagram, thanks.
Dan from Cincinnati Ohio

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1976 Mustang Cobra II 4 speed

Maxthe222

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Re: body side molding
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2018, 04:40:15 AM »
Throwing in my two cents on this since I was really confused about these too and did my research on them, both my '79's have body side moulds on them, and I also bought 2 sets of the Hitman's ebay store. Spent ages trying to figure out what the story with these were.

My '79 Y84/WS6 has "B84 Body Side Moldings" on the order invoice, and those were the stick-on adhesive type.
My '79 W72/WS6 doesn't have anything on any paperwork saying it had the side mouldings, and it has the screw-on/rivet type. Installed after the car was delivered to the dealership in Beeville.

If it's on the PHS/Build sheet, it's the glue one. Riveted/Screw on ones were dealer. Without a doubt I like the stick-on ones much more, because those don't put holes in my doors that let water and junk get in. You also can't prove those were factory.

Oh, and as for the Hitman's ones, they were 5/10. I bought two sets at different times, and both had issues with the order. They're ok, it's 3M adhesive type, and the style looks similar, but is definitely not exactly the same. All mine were pre-cut into 6 pieces. The first time I bought them the cuts were terrible and the pieces were too short. He did send correct ones over for no charge after I got around to finally checking them out. The only "big" difference, is that his end pieces (the lil' part that attaches to the rear quarters) isn't boxed off with chrome, it's just a mid section piece that is cut off.

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squirrel

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Re: body side molding
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2018, 08:08:49 AM »
got and installed the hitman body moldings last week.  they are pre cut and look very nice for $50.

happy with them.
Dan from Cincinnati Ohio

1978 TA W72/WS6 Brown/Black
1976 Mustang Cobra II 4 speed

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Re: body side molding
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2018, 08:42:09 AM »
Like to see some close up pictures of the ends.
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Re: body side molding
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2018, 02:31:05 AM »
Here's the pics:





As you can see it doesn't have the chromed edge, it's just sliced off.

Aus78Formula

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Re: body side molding
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2018, 03:39:26 AM »
There was a bit of variation among both the adhesive type and the rivet on. The more common GM version was what Hitman sells, with each end sliced and reglued to form an arrowhead. There were also those that cut a fancy end or bevel as Max has, and another type that was more of an aftermarket version was to have square-cut ends and a chrome plastic end decoration added separately. These may have been done by dealers but were not GM, just the guy who came around adding pinstripes and rear louvres for customers.

Re: body side molding
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