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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #440 on: April 14, 2020, 07:06:54 AM »
2020-04-14_09-02-19 by Kerry Grubb, on Flickr
Heres an example of a bolt, before and after cleaning. I have a wire wheel on a bench grinder, carefully with a pair of pliers holding them, I run the bolts through for a few seconds and it cleans them up pretty nice. In the past I have sloshed them in rust remover then sprayed them silver, these look much better this way. I did all of the bolts and clips on the core support yesterday and it really makes a big difference in looks.
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #441 on: April 14, 2020, 07:18:30 AM »
Wow, those look brand new!

1976 Trans Am LS1, 6 speed, C5 Brakes, LS1 rear 12" brakes, and much more...SOLD
My Build: http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=24465.0

New project: 1968 Camaro LS6, T56, Speedtech, Hotchkis, DSE, Z51 13.4" front brakes, LS1 rear disks, etc.
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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #442 on: April 14, 2020, 03:52:45 PM »
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #443 on: April 14, 2020, 03:55:01 PM »
Sorry for the double vision, user error, core support back on with new bushings, hood latch was rusted shut, let it soak for a couple of days, then cleaned it really good, wire wheel, lubed up and now it works like new.
What finish was on the hood pop up spring? This one almost seems like it is plastic coated, not paint.
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #444 on: April 16, 2020, 08:02:20 AM »
Nice work Roadking
Looks great

JT

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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #445 on: April 17, 2020, 04:22:12 AM »
Kerry,

Did you use a rattle can for the rad support or fill up a paint gun for all that black?
Charlie

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(19 years and counting but still have her)

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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #446 on: April 17, 2020, 06:31:38 AM »
I used rattle can for the frame and all of the front end parts, for the core support i used some single stage black that i had leftover from my 77. It was put on with a my awaita spray gun. I used the same single stage gloss on the inner fenders as well. The under hood stuff should be a matte finish but i am using a bit of a custom touch and using gloss. I think it may look better. I almost went body colour, but that would have really been different. I like the way some of the old mopars look with a body coloured engine compartment.
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #447 on: April 17, 2020, 06:48:18 AM »
Oh ok...cool

I too like the engine bay being the same as the body but I will being going all black with mine with a twist for the block and that will be body colour as per my sons request.
Charlie

79 Esprit but like many, it will be a T/A clone
(19 years and counting but still have her)

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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #448 on: April 17, 2020, 07:22:15 AM »
I need to get/build a bench so I work on my little parts like you’re doing with the hardware.  I’m redoing my distributor on the trunk of my car right now ???????????

Good job with the engine bay progress!

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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #449 on: June 20, 2020, 05:09:40 PM »
When I drop off of page 1 I figure I better get back to work  :shock: I have been wanting to get the front sheet metal put back on and get started on the int. Got the pass side all done then figured I had better get new body bushings on so things will line up properly. I ordered a set of solid from Summit Thursday afternoon. Delivered to my door this morning. Ended up taking all of the metal back off, of coarse the cage nut on the front bolt started to spin, but with a wedge that one is pretty easy to get at. Then the back started spinning really easy, Cage nut broke as well! Or so I thought. Drilled a hole in the floor, and lo and behold the bolt was spinning nicely with the nut still in place. No need for the large hole afterwards. THEN I could  not get the old bolt out of the frame. Spent about 2 hours with a sawzall and a trip to lowes for more blades before I got the old one out. New bushings went back in about 10 minutes. Dr. side and pics tomorrow.
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #449 on: June 20, 2020, 05:09:40 PM »

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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #450 on: June 21, 2020, 06:21:34 AM »
It's unreal how fast the new stuff goes on, only if manufacturers used SS hardware back then.




Regards, Jack

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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #451 on: June 21, 2020, 07:54:24 AM »
My typical experience, 4 hours for removal, 10 minutes for re-install!!
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #452 on: June 21, 2020, 09:58:52 AM »
It’s amazing how much time is spent on the small parts and things not seen with this type of work.

JT

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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #453 on: June 21, 2020, 12:46:34 PM »
2020-06-20_05-17-19 by Kerry Grubb, on Flickr
X marks the spot, with a guess and hopefully a little luck the bolt will be under here someplace.
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #454 on: June 21, 2020, 12:49:36 PM »
2020-06-20_05-17-11 by Kerry Grubb, on Flickr
2020-06-20_05-17-00 by Kerry Grubb, on Flickr
Pretty good guess, LOL.
After drilling with a 2" hole saw (hold the saw on an angle and only cut 3/4 the way around the circle. This makes a flap you can bend back into place and tac weld), I realized the cage nut was NOT broke and the bolt was spinning freely. It was so easy I could have swore it broke. SO, a hole to be patched that didnt need be, oh well  :-D
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #454 on: June 21, 2020, 12:49:36 PM »


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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #455 on: June 21, 2020, 12:51:22 PM »
2020-06-20_05-16-49 by Kerry Grubb, on Flickr
Now wheres the 90 ft lb setting on this bad boy!
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #456 on: June 21, 2020, 12:59:08 PM »
Did the driver side side. No problem. I took all the sheet metal off and the inner fender for easy access. When you do this you can get a clean shot on the front bolt. I gave it a good soak with PB, then for the rear mount I figured where the bolt would be by measuring the pass side I cut, and I drilled a 5/8" hole directly over the bolt. It ended up right on top of the mounting bolt. I filled this with PB and let both soak in a bit. Repeating a couple of times whilst I cut the grass, hung a light in my grilling station, etc. When I put the breaker bar to the bolts, with a little persuasion they popped loose  :cool: Came out no problem. Short of taking the sheet metal off (which I have down to a science now) it took about 15 minutes to do both the front and back.
I took the old bolt completely out of the front, then I loosened the rear bolt. THEN I put a piece of 2 x 12 about 4' long on my floor jack. I jacked the body up with the 2 x 12 parallel with the sub frame. I Jacked the body of the car up just enough to pull the old bushings out and slide the new ones in.
I used solid bushings from Summit. They were packed a box inside a box. The inside box was ripped open and when I pulled it out of the outside box parts went flying everywhere. Fortunately I was able to find everything except one of the core support bushings. I have looked all around my shop floor and cant find it. I suspect it wasnt in the box to begin with. No biggie though I already replaced those awhile ago.
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #457 on: June 21, 2020, 01:48:39 PM »
This is what happens when a carpenter turns into a mechanic lol, good job Kerry.




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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #458 on: July 30, 2020, 07:39:27 AM »
2020-07-30_09-27-26 by Kerry Grubb, on Flickr
Time to make a post before I slip to page 3! Tailights installed. These were the ones I repainted and had problems with. After a lot of rubbing, and a couple of recoats they dont look too bad. Someday I would like to get new covers but these will do in the meantime. I did get new brake lines installed in the front, new solid body bushings. Waiting to get the booster refurbished and installed so I can get the front sheet metal installed for the final time. Its been way too hot to be in the shop for the last month, and our hottest month is yet to come. Prob wont be much happening for the next few weeks.
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #459 on: July 30, 2020, 08:24:24 AM »
Turned out nice from here!!
Charlie

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(19 years and counting but still have her)

Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #459 on: July 30, 2020, 08:24:24 AM »

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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #460 on: July 30, 2020, 01:04:14 PM »
Just a teaser.  I have been waiting patiently to start the resto on my latest acquisition, Tenth Anniv. 4 speed. I got this car by chance last December after the tenth I was working on was destroyed in a fire. I was cruising local CL and found the car somewhat close to me. Not really looking to get another, it was complete (partially disassembled) with matching motor and trans., and a price I couldn't refuse. At least that's the logic I used. It has been sitting in my friends barn since December waiting for my new shop to be completed. Fast forward, or maybe slow forward to now and my shop is complete enough to get the car moved in. Plan on doing that on Thursday this week then the games begin.

Check in next week, same bat time, same bat channel!

Kerry,

Between retirement and recovering from surgery I have lots of time to spend reading through TAC postings. I knew you as one of the more prolific contributors but really was unaware of your projects until today. I didn't know of fire that destroyed your first TATA and shop. That must have been really tough. It was good to hear this car had much better bones than your first TATA, it would have been much harder the other way around.

I love reading about projects like yours. Sometimes it takes years or decades to restore a car because life gets in the way. Between running a business, building a new shop, restoring this TATA and posting in TAC, I figure you must never sleep. I am impressed with the way you tackled and completed the T-tops, busted console, dash pad, AC evaporator housing, body & paint. The TATA probably has one of the most difficult factory paint jobs to reproduce, it didn't seem to intimidate you. At some point you mentioned selling once you have completed it, so you must really enjoy the challenge of restoring.

Looking forward to seeing more!

Larry

1980 T/A 4.9 Non turbo

Gone but not forgotten;
1973 T/A 455
1975 T/A 400
1978 T/A W72
1982 T/A cross fire injected

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2013 Honda CB1100
2010 Yamaha Vmax
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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #461 on: July 31, 2020, 07:49:29 AM »
Thanks Larry,
One of the reasons I tackle a restoration is the shear enjoyment (most of the time) of working on a car. I get great enjoyment out of taking something ready to junk and restoring back to its formal glory.  It is really my only hobby. I dont fish, hunt, etc. My other hobby is woodworking, but being a contractor that part gets mixed into profession. As far as the TATA, I doubt it will be a 'forever' car, but once its finished and I start driving my mind may change.
As far as this one goes, I have a couple of small hurdles to get past then I do believe that progress will move along pretty good. I was hoping to be done by late summer but like all car build schedules I have run into delays. I know the time frame the motor and powertrain will take so realistically, if everything goes smooth, next summer is doable.
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #462 on: August 01, 2020, 10:50:13 PM »
The tail lights look great Kerry!  I'm looking forward to getting your TATA and my TTA together for a cruise.  I'll pencil something in for 2021. Keep at it, this thing looks like it's coming along great!
Tom
King of Prussia, PA

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Build thread - http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=69897.0

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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #463 on: August 02, 2020, 11:50:34 AM »
I was super organized when I did my 77. This time around, not so much  :shock: It seems I have parts stashed all over, some here, some there, a little everywhere. I didnt think I had the hood release cable or the metal bracket that mounts on the bottom of the grill. Looking back at some pics and I did see the bracket in place! SO, I must have it someplace  :grin: I have been searching like crazy but no luck. Then it hit me, I swtiched out the inner bumper because the spare I had was better than the original. I KNOW I did not scrap the old one (which must still have the bracket attached) but my search today has come up empty. No idea whatsoever where it can be? I will put on my Indiana Jones hat and continue looking.
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #464 on: August 02, 2020, 12:58:52 PM »
see my text I sent you on that bracket.
79 Trans am 301 (work in progress) LS swap n progress
79 Formula 301 (Work in progress)
67 RS Camaro (Work in progress)
See the recurring theme???

Names, Luke. If I hear anyone telling me they're my father....

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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #465 on: August 03, 2020, 11:05:11 AM »
2020-08-03_10-30-14 by Kerry Grubb, on Flickr
I have been searching for the hood release bracket that mounts on the bottom of the bumper. I did not think I had one. Then when looking at pics, I did see it in place, so that was good news. Then I realized that I switched bumpers and that the bracket was most likely still attached to the original bumper. SO, the search was on. I knew I did not scrap that part but had no idea where it was. I had searched everywhere that I thought it may be. Then Luke, stepped up and refurbished a piece. Just as he was about to ship it out, lo and behold I found mine this morning. THANKS Luke for the effort but I wont be needing it at this time. :-D

2020-08-03_10-30-04 by Kerry Grubb, on Flickr
It was behind this shelf, against the wall, (kinda behind where the tires are), so no wonder I had a hard time finding it!
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

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Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #466 on: August 03, 2020, 11:18:31 AM »
No problem. I was just trying to pay you back for the parts I jave got from you. Glad you found it!
79 Trans am 301 (work in progress) LS swap n progress
79 Formula 301 (Work in progress)
67 RS Camaro (Work in progress)
See the recurring theme???

Names, Luke. If I hear anyone telling me they're my father....

Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
« Reply #466 on: August 03, 2020, 11:18:31 AM »
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