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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #80 on: September 11, 2018, 09:30:12 AM »
Tires spun you lost the race.
Only way to catch up is huge Boost of Hp on tap.
400- 700 Hp more.
Drag. Street Race.

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #81 on: September 11, 2018, 10:37:03 AM »
Friday night Elgin industrial park  Brian, bring that 9 sec. 70 T/A
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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #82 on: September 11, 2018, 02:11:26 PM »
Friday night Elgin industrial park  Brian, bring that 9 sec. 70 T/A
I set The Street Race Location.
Not You Pro Tour.

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #83 on: September 11, 2018, 02:12:57 PM »
Friday night Elgin industrial park  Brian, bring that 9 sec. 70 T/A
No setup.
No 5.0.
Open Highways.
You crash I am not stopping.

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #84 on: September 11, 2018, 02:41:25 PM »
LOL I called you out "he who has the huevos makes the rules" behind Elgin industries ;-) 11 PM
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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #84 on: September 11, 2018, 02:41:25 PM »

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #85 on: September 11, 2018, 02:49:14 PM »
"You can sell an old man a young mans car,
but you can't sell a young man an old mans car"
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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #86 on: September 11, 2018, 04:53:28 PM »
stustria
LOL I called you out "he who has the huevos makes the rules" behind Elgin industries ;-) 11 PM
Real Easy to block off an industrual park for the cops.
Most have 1 way in and out.
You have never street raced.
Road Race only.

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #87 on: September 11, 2018, 04:56:28 PM »
LOL I called you out "he who has the huevos makes the rules" behind Elgin industries ;-) 11 PM
You want to really do it get on Facebook.
Your FB page.
I found it.
Announce.
I will have 2000 Hp waiting
Don't pay they will take your Pro Tour car.

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #88 on: September 11, 2018, 06:10:40 PM »
well now see you just tipped your hand you said "they" will take your car!!!

First off you just threatened me, btw this is the second time you have.
"they" means not you!! so, YOU don't have a 2000hp 70 tube chassis street T/A
I never claimed to have been a street racer, you have.
You want to start some BS on my FB page ??!! you're not as smart as I gave you credit for.
see this is mano a mano not "they" I understand weak people need a back up.
so let's do this , UNION GROVE Friday grudge race.
AGAIN BRING YOUR 70 TA

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #89 on: September 11, 2018, 06:27:08 PM »
well now see you just tipped your hand you said "they" will take your car!!!

First off you just threatened me, btw this is the second time you have.
"they" means not you!! so, YOU don't have a 2000hp 70 tube chassis street T/A
I never claimed to have been a street racer, you have.
You want to start some BS on my FB page ??!! you're not as smart as I gave you credit for.
see this is mano a mano not "they" I understand weak people need a back up.
so let's do this , UNION GROVE Friday grudge race.
AGAIN BRING YOUR 70 TA

Not playing it your way.
Street Race in the Boondocks 100 miles South of Chicago only.

Nothing but Highways and Cornfields.
My area.


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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #90 on: September 11, 2018, 06:27:59 PM »
well now see you just tipped your hand you said "they" will take your car!!!

First off you just threatened me, btw this is the second time you have.
"they" means not you!! so, YOU don't have a 2000hp 70 tube chassis street T/A
I never claimed to have been a street racer, you have.
You want to start some BS on my FB page ??!! you're not as smart as I gave you credit for.
see this is mano a mano not "they" I understand weak people need a back up.
so let's do this , UNION GROVE Friday grudge race.
AGAIN BRING YOUR 70 TA
I can not Trust You one Bit.

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #91 on: September 11, 2018, 06:55:34 PM »
I got $200 on T/Aman!

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #92 on: September 11, 2018, 07:19:27 PM »
I got $200 on T/Aman!
Of course you do.
Make it more.

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #93 on: September 11, 2018, 07:26:36 PM »
well now see you just tipped your hand you said "they" will take your car!!!

First off you just threatened me, btw this is the second time you have.
"they" means not you!! so, YOU don't have a 2000hp 70 tube chassis street T/A
I never claimed to have been a street racer, you have.
You want to start some BS on my FB page ??!! you're not as smart as I gave you credit for.
see this is mano a mano not "they" I understand weak people need a back up.
so let's do this , UNION GROVE Friday grudge race.
AGAIN BRING YOUR 70 TA
Run at 3 Am Monday Morning.
Marked off 1/4.
We Keep going 2 miles Flat out.
Speeds to 180 + mph.
Highway gears.
Give your Pro Tour car a Chance.
Know a Road 20 miles long.
Can hit ultra high speeds safe.
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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #94 on: September 11, 2018, 07:37:41 PM »
here's my race car

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #95 on: September 11, 2018, 07:39:01 PM »
let's see that 70 TA lol
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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #96 on: September 11, 2018, 07:43:28 PM »
here's my race car



Come on now, ya gotta at least give him a chance.

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #97 on: September 11, 2018, 07:48:09 PM »
here's my race car


Don't like it my way do you.

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #98 on: September 11, 2018, 07:49:56 PM »
in all honesty I feel bad threads that involve 70RAIV455 ALWAYS take a wrong turn with the BS

    I APOLOGIZE TO THE OP.

I do feel bad for perpetuating this junk, but frankly I thing moderators or admin should control when the thread goes so far into the weeds.
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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #99 on: September 11, 2018, 07:50:00 PM »
here's my race car


You should drive that Protour Car from Tennesse to Chicago.
Not pull it with your Pickup.

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #100 on: September 11, 2018, 07:51:19 PM »
in all honesty I feel bad threads that involve 70RAIV455 ALWAYS take a wrong turn with the BS

    I APOLOGIZE TO THE OP.

I do feel bad for perpetuating this junk, but frankly I thing moderators or admin should control when the thread goes so far into the weeds.
You started it.
Business must be bad for you.

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« Reply #101 on: September 11, 2018, 07:52:48 PM »
in all honesty I feel bad threads that involve 70RAIV455 ALWAYS take a wrong turn with the BS

    I APOLOGIZE TO THE OP.

I do feel bad for perpetuating this junk, but frankly I thing moderators or admin should control when the thread goes so far into the weeds.
Take it to your Facebook Page.

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« Reply #102 on: September 11, 2018, 08:16:44 PM »
https://www.facebook.com/gen2racingsuspension/

Not everyday a supporting Vendor Viscous attacks an individual.
Bad Business Practices.

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #103 on: September 11, 2018, 08:35:54 PM »
Grow up!

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #104 on: September 11, 2018, 09:06:00 PM »
Grow up!
Have A Nice Day with your friend.

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #105 on: September 12, 2018, 06:56:40 AM »
sorry guys but I had to push back against him, he ruins every post where someone tries to get valid information, he has single handedly run people off this board, I posted to admin in the lobby, there he finally had to admit "his" car is not his but a "friend's" car that he is trying to enroll in dangerous and illegal street racing.

      AGAIN MY APOLOGIES TO THE OP
 
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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #106 on: September 12, 2018, 09:01:56 AM »
WOW! This sure got off track in a hurry. Looks like this thread should be on lock down. With regrets to the OP of course.
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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #107 on: September 12, 2018, 09:14:28 AM »
no it should not be locked down, I personally called the OP this morning, apologized for the way this turned out, but he was laughing and enjoyed the entertainment, leave it open so that he can at least give his opinion if he wishes to do so.
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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #108 on: September 12, 2018, 11:13:22 AM »
What I think is funny, is 70RA claims there is another forum he's on, that he says they let him run it, that he is so knowledgable that "they let him take it over".

While I do think 70 has a lot of knowledge, he is such a bully that he just takes over whether you let him or not. He probably reports on that other forum that we let him run the forum here too.

They probably hate his multiple posts repeating all the same drag racing only stuff just as much as we do. But they all gave up trying to correct his behaviour and just let him go. They decided to hit the ignore button and enjoy life without his posts or i'm sure some chose to leave.

Do we have an ignore button here on TAC? It was funny for a while, now its just getting old.
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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #109 on: September 12, 2018, 11:36:16 AM »
no it should not be locked down, I personally called the OP this morning, apologized for the way this turned out, but he was laughing and enjoyed the entertainment, leave it open so that he can at least give his opinion if he wishes to do so.

Exactly, time to let this run its course and get it all out. Ive been a member here for a long time and not going anywhere. I don't post a lot but when I do I try to make it relevant and to the point, don't need 20+ posts to say whats needed in one. Quality of the post is way more relevant that the posters total post count!
My BS meter was pegged long ago!
I truly feel sorry for the people that are asking legitimate questions and get bombarded with useless crap. Hopefully they can sort thru the posts and see whos really giving useful information.
This is NOT a racing forum and never will be, its for fellow TA enthusiasts who want to discuss THEIR cars and experiences and share their knowledge with others that have the same desire. Theres more to a car than straight line performance, if that's your game let me suggest seeking out a forum that caters to that.
 
 
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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #110 on: September 12, 2018, 12:06:36 PM »
79T/Aman there is no need to apologize if anyone needs to apologize it's 70RAIV that should be apologizing to us instead for all his foolishness. I myself have tied into with RAIV in the past and established back then there is no 70TA and the car in that sig picture has since been long gone. It has been seen many times 70RAIV is just a nuisance to the site it's time for him to go along with his street racing BS.

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #111 on: September 12, 2018, 12:16:51 PM »
On my 455, I made 430hp/ 507 tq. I know that is just shy of 500hp your looking for but the motor is very streetable and stays cool in 115 temps in Vegas. It is in my Lemans convertible (which isn't a race car). I am sure with aluminum heads, more porting, bore , stroked, turbos and little bit of magic pixie dust you can go 500hp and beyond. I used a stock crank, stock intake (it was modified slightly from Kauffman racing) the compression ratio is 10.2:1 . I used a RTR MSD distributor. The cam is a step up from stock profile (very smooth idle) I am using a Holley Sniper EFI. The cylinder heads are -15 heads, rebuilt with big valves. I started off with a bare block and pieced it all together. So far it runs really great. I spent a total of about 5k (a local shop did all the work and did the break in and dyno) here is what it did on the dyno-

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #112 on: September 12, 2018, 12:24:50 PM »
Also keep in mind this dyno run was made at a  density altitude of about 5000 ft. Vegas is 2300ft above sea level. In 100 degree temps the air becomes thinner thus making the density much higher. Density Altitude, in a nutshell, is the altitude the motor thinks it is at, and therefore performs as it was at that altitude. The thinner the air, the less power output the motor makes. Forced induction (turbo/ superchargers) can alleviate that, but this is a normally aspirated motor ( non turbo/ supercharged). I believe that if the dyno was done at a lower altitude (closer to sea level) is would pick up a bit more in HP/TQ.

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #113 on: September 12, 2018, 01:59:44 PM »
Very impressive Jim, for an iron headed street motor.  :smile:
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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #114 on: September 12, 2018, 11:27:16 PM »
Firstly Dave 79T/Aman....thank you so much for the phone call this morning and the advice and chats about my car. Also your parts and setup are awesome and what I will always use on my car...you are a class act and a real resource to all of us and as 4wheeling said you have nothing apologize for. As far the thread going off the rails....I was alittle bit disappointed as I really was looking for answers and advice on this motor build to get to my goals....which I would like to mention I did receive about the intake I should go with the cam options I have and which are best as well as the stroke size. Those technical questions are what I was looking to discuss....70Ra did provide some answers there... but I do agree the street racing only hammering was out of bounds....there is a time and a place for that but it should be obvious the intention of this post was to discuss best option to reach my goals....I do like performance and racing but alittle common sense should be incorporated though it was slightly entertaining.....I would love to keep the conversation going like 737 just did....thank you all as always for your help and advice

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #115 on: September 12, 2018, 11:33:10 PM »
Fortunately there is a good Pontiac engine builder here in Vegas,  HBR Competition engines. They did a good job on both motors (400/455) they have rebuilt for me. I have a spare 350 that I want to rebuild myself sometime in the future.
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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #116 on: September 12, 2018, 11:47:04 PM »
As 737 has shown your goal is easily attainable with off the shelf parts and some common sense. If this is going in your daily driver you might consider building and tuning it for the crappiest gas you can find. Sure youll loose a little power but when you wind up having to put it in your tank one day at least you can drive home on it without worrying about it detonating itself to death.

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #117 on: September 13, 2018, 05:14:31 AM »
"...I have a spare 350 that I want to rebuild myself sometime in the future..."

Lookin forward to getting in on that discussion. I've done quite a bit of 350 build research & have taken part in several 350 build threads. Have also had some street & race 350's. Most badmouth the Pontiac 350 & tell the OP to go with a 400, 428 or 455 block. But, 325 to 500 streetable hp is possible, using a 350 block.

There are lots of cheap 350 blocks out there. Some have even junked 'em, because they couldn't sell. That's a shame, since they can be used to make decent power.

In fact, if there is any interest, I'd like to start a 350 block ONLY build thread, where we can discuss the options available for different levels of performance. So, all who'd like to see and/or be involved in such a thread, please say so here.

There may have already been some 350 threads here. Don't know. But I, along with probably many others, prefer a fresh discussion, with all the latest info, rather than just searching for an old thread.

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #118 on: September 13, 2018, 09:15:13 AM »
My block is a 70 4 bolt main 400 and I definitely don't daily drive it...I just cruise and hot rod it on the weekends with a heavy foot.....I also do like to go to the track (as you can see in the YouTube links) and try to put down good numbers and want to beat some of the newer cars..(obviously don't expect to beat them all) but high 11's would be a dream

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Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #119 on: September 13, 2018, 10:36:17 AM »
"...high 11's would be a dream."


Doesn't have to be just a dream, IF you have a big enuff budget.

A 4.21" or 4.25" stroker, with the right cam & heads, along with a correctly set up car, can run high 11's, with drag tires, & still be very streetable.

Re: Pontiac stroker advice for 500hp...stroke size,cam,intake,heads?
« Reply #119 on: September 13, 2018, 10:36:17 AM »
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