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duffinatur

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PTFB Pro G Braces. Get em.
« on: July 02, 2018, 09:38:43 PM »
The difference was so profound I briefly wondered what was wrong with my car before I got them.
Getting an alignment on Friday and will report again.
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Re: PTFB Pro G Braces. Get em.
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2018, 01:28:20 AM »
Cool!  Did you already have other suspension upgrades before adding the g braces?

What are you noticing that’s most improved by them?

Any challenges with the install?

Thanks
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2018, 06:12:13 AM »
Agreed!

When I   installed mine, it made the front half of the car feel less like it was held together with sheet metal screws and made it feel more like it was one solid piece, like a modern car. COMPLETELY changes the feel of the car.

If you have stiffer than stock front springs, these are a must. Otherwise you're relying on the strength of your floor pan to absorb the shock from the front.

BTW, looks like a nice swap!
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2018, 08:10:10 AM »
Thank you very much for the good words  8)
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2018, 04:44:02 PM »
Thanks, Dave. Did you get my PM?

Daryll,
I just installed coil overs, new ball joints and everything else is build new, but there is a HUGE difference after these braces
were installed.  Mostly in the feel of the car. Feels like a modern car. Firm and still smooth.

Had a little trouble negotiating around the braided brake lines, but squeezed them around the brace. It's just the way I
routed my brake lines. That area needs freshening up anyway as the paint on the booster is bad and the ss lines have
corroded too much for my liking so when I get to that I'll move the lines so I don't end up with any rubbing.
20180702_213619 by Elwood Duffey, on Flickr

20180702_213631 by Elwood Duffey, on Flickr

Had to trim the fender mounts a little on the firewall for the bracket to rest flat...I'm not sure if this is mentioned in the
instructions, (misplaced) and it wasn't mentioned in the yoube video I used as a guide. This was the only surprise and
the the only issue keeping these from being completely a bolt on and go install.
EDIT: Had I not misplaced my instructions I would have known that the extra washers were to overcome the lip I cut off.
          Seems obvious now that I know, but I'm OK with the trimming as well.

(This was super minor and no issue whatsoever, less than 1 minute per side)
20180702_213649 (1) by Elwood Duffey, on Flickr
20180702_213704 by Elwood Duffey, on Flickr

I did these after work and I didn't even start until 7:30pm. I went for my test drive just as the sun was setting, a
little over two hours later. (tools put away but hood still off car.)
These pass and surpass the best 'Bang for the Buck' of anything I've done to the car.
I can't wait to get the alignment Friday so I can put some highway miles on.
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76 Pontiac TA (long gone, first car)
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74 Olds Cutlass Supr (status: on hold)
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2018, 06:23:26 PM »
Thanks Duff for the write up and pics!  Much appreciated.

I’ve got most of the PTFB goodies (shocks/springs/sways/subframe connectors/solid body bushings) and was thinking about adding these when I install my new engine later this summer).

Thanks again,
Darryl
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2018, 07:14:28 PM »
Duff, I did not get a PM from you but I did get an email that I responded to.

As for the fender mod. we supply about 16 washers to use in spacing the brace tab to help clear the lip on the fender that you cut off, step 4 in the instructions., itis posible that you could still have interference with the spacer washers but you could bend down the offending tab on the fender.

Glad to see the braces are doing their job for you.

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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2018, 08:02:27 PM »
Just for interest, when setting up the tension on the braces, do you do it as it sits or jack up under the firewall to let wheels hang perhaps?

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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2018, 08:20:27 PM »
..."As for the fender mod. we supply about 16 washers to use in spacing the brace tab to help clear the lip on the fender that you cut off, step 4 in the instructions., itis posible that you could still have interference with the spacer washers but you could bend down the offending tab on the fender".

Thanks, Dave. I corrected my original post to reflect that.

I'll look for your email.
Duff
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2018, 08:22:03 PM »
Just for interest, when setting up the tension on the braces, do you do it as it sits or jack up under the firewall to let wheels hang perhaps?
you do it as it sits on it's tires (tyres for the down under ;-) )
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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2018, 11:06:04 PM »
Ohh...Tyres! I've spent years pretending to understand what you folks were discussing!

Good stuff. I doubt it these would fit on mine, heavily modified RHD with custom AC and case etc, and well off being roadworthy but good to know.

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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2018, 04:11:13 PM »
They are the best thing you could do for a 2nd gen along with subframe braces & solid body mounts. It's a tight fit in my 73 TA with AC, but they work wonders. No more creaking going up and down curbs as the body is flexing!
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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2018, 06:37:12 PM »
I did the Pro G Braces and the Solid Body Mounts - WOW - it was like a new car.

Next - Upper and Lower Arms and Springs / Shocks

Awesome product !!

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« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2018, 07:23:06 PM »
I did the Pro G Braces and the Solid Body Mounts - WOW - it was like a new car.

Next - Upper and Lower Arms and Springs / Shocks

Awesome product !!

thank you for the support.

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« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2018, 11:01:36 AM »
Great looking car, I have no doubt it handles like a dream!  I am definitely thinking about getting a set of these after reading some of the posts.
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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2018, 11:18:12 AM »
I've been looking at these, but not sure how much of a difference they would make in my car. I've already done allot of suspension upgrades. For those that have.... what do you think? Any differences?
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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2018, 11:54:00 AM »
the more suspension upgrades you make the more load is transferred to the chassis, G-braces improve chassis rigidity, they make the suspension work better instead of flexing the frame/chassis.
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2018, 02:29:25 PM »
I've been looking at these, but not sure how much of a difference they would make in my car. I've already done allot of suspension upgrades. For those that have.... what do you think? Any differences?
Big difference! Getem.

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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2018, 10:52:19 PM »
the more suspension upgrades you make the more load is transferred to the chassis, G-braces improve chassis rigidity, they make the suspension work better instead of flexing the frame/chassis.


I am running the full Global West setup. Front/rear springs, bushings, upper/lower control arms, front sway bar, solid body bushings, and subframe connectors.

So it would make a difference or be worth it? I definitely am NOT trying to say anything bad about your product at all. Just do not want to buy something that does not make things better than before if that makes sense?
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« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2018, 07:01:28 PM »
Yes they would be worth it, the frame flexes and the stiffer springs cause even more flex.
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« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2018, 09:29:17 AM »
Yes they would be worth it, the frame flexes and the stiffer springs cause even more flex.


Any mods that need to be done to the car to install?
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« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2018, 10:02:53 AM »
just drill mounting holes in the cowl, look at the pictures the OP posted.
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« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2018, 10:18:09 PM »
Reckon I'll be looking to get a set soon.
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« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2018, 04:54:28 AM »
Reckon I'll be looking to get a set soon.

THANK YOU  :D
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« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2018, 02:19:55 PM »
the more suspension upgrades you make the more load is transferred to the chassis, G-braces improve chassis rigidity, they make the suspension work better instead of flexing the frame/chassis.


I am running the full Global West setup. Front/rear springs, bushings, upper/lower control arms, front sway bar, solid body bushings, and subframe connectors.

So it would make a difference or be worth it? I definitely am NOT trying to say anything bad about your product at all. Just do not want to buy something that does not make things better than before if that makes sense?

Yes, the last piece you need. Will make a big difference. They were the last thing I added. Made a night and day difference. I'm using all of Dave's pieces on my car. You might also consider the cross brace that goes between them up by the firewall and his Wonderbar copy. It's a brace that goes between the front frame rails and bolts to the sway bay bolts. Then you should be done!

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