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FL78TA

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Trunk Torsion Spring Replacement Video?
« on: January 10, 2018, 09:17:45 AM »
I got my 78 Trans Am back from the body shop a while ago after final paint and find out my trunk lid will not stay up.  Does anybody know if there is a good installation video for the torsion spring replacement?  I am a little concerned because I got fresh paint everywhere and I know there is a lot of tension on these things.
I thought Fbodywarehouse would have one but could not find it.

Thanks!
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Re: Trunk Torsion Spring Replacement Video?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2018, 11:09:59 AM »
Not sure about any videos, but its not too bad to do the job, just a bit intimidating. First, you will need a couple of heavy furniture blankets to protect the paint and glass, just in case. Get a piece of pipe a couple of feet long that you can fit over the end of the spring rod and use that as leverage to pull it out of the notch that it fits into. I used the handle from a floor jack. There is a "how to" in the fisher body manual that explains the process in a bit more detail.
Depending on your level of originality, I highly recommend a gas lift shock. I got one from eddie motorsports and love it. Very easy to install and works so much better than the original setup. It is a bit pricey though.
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Re: Trunk Torsion Spring Replacement Video?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2018, 09:33:08 AM »
Hey!  I really like that Gas Lift Option!  Especially since I probably could leave the torsion rods in there?? 

I guess you have to take the trunk lid off and the cover over top of the rods before you even start?

I will look up that gas assist.

Thanks for the help!
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Re: Trunk Torsion Spring Replacement Video?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2018, 02:15:34 PM »
Yes, if you are changing the torsion rods the trunk lid needs to be removed (no big deal) and the filler panel needs to be removed (again, not too tough). These are prone to breakage, they are set different for lids without spoilers, there are a couple of reasons why they don't work properly.
I have no dog in the fight concerning the EM lift, but highly recommend it. I tried to keep my car "factory/dealer correct" during the restoration, and when the torsion springs acted up I reluctantly put the gas lift on. It takes about 5 minutes to install and requires 1 hole to be drilled. I paid extra for black but I think you can get it unfinished aluminum as well. Cost a little over $100.
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Re: Trunk Torsion Spring Replacement Video?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2018, 10:32:28 PM »
There are several videos on Youtube. When you get there, do a search for "Firebird Trans Am trunk lid torsion bars" and you'll find them.  Camaros are the same, so watching those can help too.
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Re: Trunk Torsion Spring Replacement Video?
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2018, 08:40:27 AM »
Thanks guys.  I still am not sure what direction I want to take.  I might try to replace the torsion rods.  I would just have to really protect the areas around the hinges.
  I did check out a couple videos.  They all seem to require lots of pulling and prying with vice grips, screwdrivers, etc.  And then all of a sudden....POP!....and the rods twists around and out.  None of the videos really showed a nice smooth disassembly and reassembly.
 The other thing is that they are usually painted with the rest of the car once installed.  I am not sure how I would do that part since the car was just painted.  If I paint them before I install them they are sure to get completely scratched up when I put them in.
Hmmmmmm..........

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Re: Trunk Torsion Spring Replacement Video?
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2018, 02:21:15 PM »
I haven't seen any of the videos, but again, as per the fisher body manual, I used a short length of pipe that fits over the turned out end of the spring at the anchoring point. You simply pull it out of the notch that it is registered into with the help of the leverage from the pipe. Its a bit tricky but not a whole lot of wrestling with the thing. Blankets will be your friend though. And safety glasses.
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Re: Trunk Torsion Spring Replacement Video?
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2018, 05:49:21 PM »
I like the idea of the gas trunk lift. I just read a post on a camaro page that makes me want to try it. I like the idea of smooth, controlled opening
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Re: Trunk Torsion Spring Replacement Video?
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2018, 07:17:17 PM »
What? You don't like remembering at the last second that you need to harness your inner ninja skills to save your chin from being spit open?
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Re: Trunk Torsion Spring Replacement Video?
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2018, 09:01:55 PM »
It isn’t the remembering...it’s the forgetting that’s the problem  :lol: (that and a spring that now only works on one hinge while the other flops around inside the cover)
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Re: Trunk Torsion Spring Replacement Video?
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2018, 08:55:17 AM »
I think I would be more into the gas assist set up if there was one on each side of the trunk.  The one from Eddie's Motorsport only has the shock on one side.  For some reason I think the it would look a little strange with only one.  I don't know.  I don't need to rush on a decision just yet.  I do have T-tops which I put in the trunk when they are off so having the lid stay open is kind of important.
Priority this weekend is getting the new Cold Case radiator installed, distributor all set, starter installed, and finish engine bay wiring.  3 years and still going on this thing!
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Re: Trunk Torsion Spring Replacement Video?
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2018, 09:20:45 AM »
Roadking77 seems to be real happy with the functionality of his strut kit. I imagine one strut is better, since it allows more room to put things in the trunk, without having the access space restricted by 2 of them. Besides ease of installation, I can think of another advantage. If you have a power trunk opener, there would be no risk of the trunklid flying open and stressed the hinges when the trunk is popped, like is possible with the torsion bars.
I also have a TA with broken torsion bars, so instead of spending money on new bars, I may just get that strut instead of messing with the bars.
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Re: Trunk Torsion Spring Replacement Video?
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2018, 10:14:31 AM »
Good writeup...the original poster instaled one then added a second via the same process.

http://www.camaros.net/forums/12-body-shop/169354-easy-conversion-gas-struts-trunk-lid-3.html#/topics/169354?page=1
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Re: Trunk Torsion Spring Replacement Video?
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2018, 12:52:11 PM »
I had been thinking about making something myself from off the shelf parts. Had it mostly worked out in my head. Then I came across the lift that was already made and decided to be lazy and buy one.  I don't think it would be too tough to make something up yourself but these eddie lifts are darn nice looking!
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Re: Trunk Torsion Spring Replacement Video?
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2018, 08:19:47 AM »
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Re: Trunk Torsion Spring Replacement Video?
« Reply #15 on: Today at 08:54:20 PM »
Thanks for sending the photo.  That really looks much better than I thought it would.  My car is Black too and it blends right in.

I may have changed my mind for the 10th time!


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Re: Trunk Torsion Spring Replacement Video?
« Reply #16 on: Today at 09:04:30 PM »
Roadking
When you open your trunk lid will it automatically open all the way or do you have to open the trunk by hand after it popped?
Thx.

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