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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #40 on: November 09, 2017, 11:52:23 AM »
darn man, that's just awful!

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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #41 on: November 09, 2017, 02:03:32 PM »
Just an idea of the heat, the trans am had a rear bumper, spoiler, taillights, glass, all melted to the floor.
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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #42 on: November 09, 2017, 02:20:38 PM »
So sorry to see this.  Hopefully between the two policies you'll at least get something back.  It's amazing that the tires are still intact!  As others have said, its very fortunate no one was hurt.  I suppose if anything a lesson to be learned here is to at least put storage insurance on our project cars.  Not to mention if you're storing your business tools in a building, make sure they are also covered in whatever type of policies you're carrying.

I wish you best of luck on getting whatever you can get out of the insurance companies. 
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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #43 on: November 09, 2017, 02:41:49 PM »
Tire burnt off on dr. side, most of the heat and flames were high. I have tools and contents covered thru business insurance, but not nearly enough, had enough coverage on the building itself thru business insurance that will allow me to rebuild something. I had a lot of personal tools and car parts that are supposedly covered by my homeowners policy. I have yet to hear back from them though on any kind of settlement. I am hoping the bottom of the car is ok, which I think it is, as I have offered up some steel to some who need it for their projects.
Finished!
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79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2017, 06:28:24 PM »
We do a lot of insurance repair jobs for a  company and one thing I have learned is they are in no hurry at all to get you restored to what you had. I understand if someone is trying to pull the wool over there eyes but not every single job. some are simple cut and dried repairs and it takes weeks to get approval  from insurance. Good luck with it.
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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2017, 06:28:24 PM »

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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2017, 11:06:51 AM »
I am finally settled, but not what I was expecting. On my tool loss which was significant (my family has been in the construction business for literally 100 yrs. Not that I had that many tools but lots of stuff going back at least 2 generations) I got about .15 on the dollar. On the building itself I got about .60 on the dollar.
One thing I would pass on after this experience, is:
1. Make sure you have insurance.
2. Make sure you have ENOUGH insurance.
I had my building insured for the value. So happens they take out depreciation, and blah, blah, blah. If it were over insured by 30% or so, then I would have gotten back the value I thought it was insured for.
There was no problem getting payment for contents loss, but I did not have nearly enough coverage. When I wrote the policy I just picked a number from the hat. I should have done an inventory at that time to figure the real cost.
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79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
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85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #46 on: December 03, 2017, 11:20:10 AM »
Would you get additional insurance from the same company or another?
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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #47 on: December 03, 2017, 11:44:39 AM »
Just is not right.

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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #48 on: December 03, 2017, 01:40:25 PM »
Ya, you pay all this money then when something happens you loose so much. Insurance should be replacement value of the building and contents minus some depreciation... Just my opinion..
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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #49 on: December 05, 2017, 05:28:08 PM »
Unless they raise my rates considerably, I will most probably stay where I am. This is my business ins. that I have had to deal with mostly. Fortunately I had it to begin with as my agent told me to add my barn and contents to the package when I got it initially. Once I started using it for any bit of business use my homeowners drops all coverage. Home owners did cover personal tools and property that I had in there. Including all of the trans am parts I have been stockpiling for the tata build the last few years. I had plenty of coverage for that, just didn't have that much personal stuff in there. I have a VERY good customer whom has a large plantation style property with many buildings that keeps me very busy year round. His brother and part owner of the property is the owner of the insurance company. Therefore I will stay with them.
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79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #50 on: December 06, 2017, 02:52:18 PM »
And people wonder why I take every opportunity to push up the insured value on stuff.....always like to have my Pontiacs insured for as much as the insurer will accept.
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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #51 on: December 06, 2017, 09:07:05 PM »
Roadking77, I am very sorry for your loss.  It's a BS fight with insurance companies. 

However, if it is ANY condolence, I want you to know you're not alone in this matter. 

The womans ex-husband just had his house burn to the ground not even a week ago. 

http://standardspeaker.com/news/cause-of-butler-twp-fire-still-under-investigation-1.2274149

It's bad enough to lose what you lost...  being put out of house and home (especially this time of year) has to be just devastating.

1976 T/A 400, 4-speed swap.... 

Check out my resto thread:  http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=48626.0

It's all trial and error until something lines up...

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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #52 on: December 07, 2017, 01:24:50 PM »
Roadking, did you decide on whether or not you were going to attempt a rebuild of that car? I thought I saw a post on here where you said that the body was surprisingly undamaged.

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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #53 on: December 07, 2017, 02:26:21 PM »
DeCaff, I truly feel bad for your acquaintance whose house burnt. So much worse than what I lost. Fortunately my barn was well enough away from the dwelling that it wasn't too much of a concern. I have been a contractor for 30+ years and have done quite a few rebuilds of house fires. Its always a bad situation where one cant help but feel bad for the peoples losses as you are scooping up their personal belongings and throwing them in a dumpster.

Ryan, Yea, believe it or not the roof of the building fell on the car pretty quick which really saved it from a lot of heat. The roof is toast (pardon the pun), but the rest of the car is pretty good. There was no rust anywhere on this car hence the biggest reason I rescued it in the first place. However, I have found a complete 4sp tata that I may pickup and restore instead. (mine is an auto).
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
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'39-BSA Gold Star
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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #54 on: December 07, 2017, 06:14:10 PM »
I have found a complete 4sp tata that I may pickup and restore instead. (mine is an auto).
DO IT.

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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #54 on: December 07, 2017, 06:14:10 PM »

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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #55 on: December 08, 2017, 04:17:48 AM »
I have found a complete 4sp tata that I may pickup and restore instead. (mine is an auto).
DO IT.
HaHa.... Easy for him to say  :-P
4 speeds rock and you know those are the extra sought after ones.
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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #56 on: December 08, 2017, 09:03:04 AM »
I have been playing phone tag with the guy. Says he has original drivetrain which would be a bonus, but its not in the car. From the 2 pics I saw it looks solid enough, and complete. Which is about 99.9% further than I would be with mine. I would restore this one if I get it. I was planning on doing a resto mod with mine since it is so far removed from an original car. Bad part is, being the pack rat that I am, if I were to get this other one, I know I would keep mine and do it in the future as well. I need to break that cycle!
Finished!
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79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #57 on: December 08, 2017, 09:04:13 AM »
Update: Just talked to the guy on the phone, gonna go see it on Monday. Wish me luck. LOL.
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79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
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'39-BSA Gold Star
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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #58 on: December 08, 2017, 04:24:47 PM »
Hopefully it's everything as advertised or better.

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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #59 on: December 08, 2017, 05:33:16 PM »
In the meantime, at lunch I bought my wife new granite countertops! We are in the midst of updating our kitchen and this is something we have talked about since we built our house over 15 yrs ago. Of course what we picked out was double the next one in line, although still under budget. IT will cut into whats left to get another car though. Hopefully I can work out a good deal with the guy.
Finished!
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79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
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'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #60 on: December 08, 2017, 06:40:08 PM »
Granite counter tops are life though.  Granite counter tops with mahogany cabinets would be awesome, also expensive.

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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #61 on: December 09, 2017, 07:29:51 AM »
New tops and appliances but keeping the cabinets. Just a slight redo. I am a furniture maker so the cabinets are not a problem. Todays "mahogany" is actually pretty boring looking compared to say walnut or cherry. My cost is the wood only so either way its pretty inexpensive.
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #62 on: December 09, 2017, 01:28:46 PM »
Todays "mahogany" is actually pretty boring looking compared to say walnut or cherry.

I have a friend that called me 2-3 years ago to come pick up some Indiana black walnut that he found in the hull of a wooden boat he recently bought to restore. Agreement was it was not for burning, but for my woodworking.  It was cut-offs from a long-ago boat repair or build and was the darkest black wood I have seen.  The boat, well it was a 1905 Chris Craft :shock: I questioned him if it was walnut as the weight seemed wrong and so dark the grain was not really visible.  He insisted it was walnut, so I piled it all in the car and left.  Months later, threw some it in the planer and out came the richest, reddish-brown mahogany ever, probably as old as the boat, but no telling. I've been told that it might be original Honduras mahogany before most if not all was all cut down and substituted with what is today called Philippines mahogany, which is not from the mahogany genus at all and is grown in Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia.

Right place at the right time, I guess.   

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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #63 on: December 09, 2017, 02:29:43 PM »
Yeah Honduran or South American mahogany, not the fake stuff from Asia.  That or I'd really like purple heart wood.

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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #64 on: Today at 09:55:09 AM »
TA 6.6, sounds like a pretty good find. Aged, mahogany looks a lot like walnut so I can see the mistake. Aged walnut though, will bleach out over time and actually lighten up. I have looked closely at a bunch of period furniture (late 1700's -early 1800's), and sometimes its hard to tell what the wood is. I have seen some Cuban mahogany which makes the most beautiful furniture. Only problem is that it went almost non existent about 1800! The Cuban has completely different characteristics from grain structure and density from what is sold today. You very well may have that. It is really heavy stuff.
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
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'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
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Re: One Less TATA in the World!
« Reply #65 on: Today at 09:56:08 AM »
btw, good to see a post from you. Havent seen anything for awhile, I was going to send you an email hoping everything was going well with you.
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

Re: One Less TATA in the World!
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