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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #200 on: June 07, 2017, 09:39:00 AM »
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Real race Fuel unlocks Power gains

Yeah race fuel would pep mine right up. If I ever spray it I'll be running it. I don't want to advance the timing right now on cheap gas.
Your going to need to expirement next time at the strip.
After MPH Trap speeds that means HP gains.
A clean hard hookup should equate to high 11s.
Its going to get Summertime Hot Soon.
Pump gas and heat dont mix very well.
Maybe start off with water coolant temps staged at 120-140F.
End of run 160-200F.
An electric fan on a switch will help. Can mount in front of radiator and use as a pusher.
Plenty of room on 2nd gen birds with no AC Condenser.
I myself would use a 160 F T-stat or Use a Moroso water restrrictor plate. Red or Blue. 3/4 - 1.00 inch hole.
Water restrictor plate more reliable than any T-stat.
Accuracy in metered water flow guaranteed.
Probably 1.00 inch because your in Arizona.
If you leave the water restrictor plate in on the street monitor water temps and change oil often.
On street I myself have seen steady 140-180F water temps after 10 minutes run time and drive time.
What matters is matching water temps in each cylinder head , combustion chamber, & type of gasoline used.
What can be done dirt cheap for now.
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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #201 on: June 07, 2017, 10:37:55 AM »
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Real race Fuel unlocks Power gains

Yeah race fuel would pep mine right up. If I ever spray it I'll be running it. I don't want to advance the timing right now on cheap gas.
Your going to need to expirement next time at the strip.
After MPH Trap speeds that means HP gains.
A clean hard hookup should equate to high 11s.
Its going to get Summertime Hot Soon.
Pump gas and heat dont mix very well.
Maybe start off with water coolant temps staged at 120-140F.
End of run 160-200F.
An electric fan on a switch will help. Can mount in front of radiator and use as a pusher.
Plenty of room on 2nd gen birds with no AC Condenser.
I myself would use a 160 F T-stat or Use a Moroso water restrrictor plate. Red or Blue. 3/4 - 1.00 inch hole.
Water restrictor plate more reliable than any T-stat.
Accuracy in metered water flow guaranteed.
Probably 1.00 inch because your in Arizona.
If you leave the water restrictor plate in on the street monitor water temps and change oil often.
On street I myself have seen steady 140-180F water temps after 10 minutes run time and drive time.
What matters is matching water temps in each cylinder head , combustion chamber, & type of gasoline used.
What can be done dirt cheap for now.
I blew off all my dates with the serious people. There's to many bandaids holding the car together.


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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #202 on: June 07, 2017, 11:26:11 AM »
When you do the list thing they count on you to be there, not just once. I was a shoe in but I know they can't depend on me to be there.

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #203 on: June 07, 2017, 01:12:00 PM »
A guy can only do what he can today.
Everday is A New Day.
You will Race again 2017.
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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #204 on: June 07, 2017, 05:55:18 PM »
Found a chunk missing out of my mini spool last night. Never ending. Shocked to find out it had a 1 year warranty. Had 10 days left on it.

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #205 on: June 07, 2017, 06:08:41 PM »

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #206 on: June 07, 2017, 07:09:15 PM »
It held up Ok because a Mini Spool is not supposed to be used past 300 - 350 HP.
They used to recommend using a Mini Spool only Dirt Track Racing.

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #207 on: June 14, 2017, 11:31:17 AM »
First legit test with nothing more than water in the stock gas tank put it into the 12s but I was still pedaling it on motor.

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #208 on: June 14, 2017, 11:40:06 AM »
the next FREE move would be to let some air out of the air shocks and lower the tire pressure

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #209 on: June 14, 2017, 11:49:00 AM »
on spray I'm sure I'll have to get a little more drastic but I haven't sprayed it yet.

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #210 on: June 14, 2017, 12:14:01 PM »
The ultimate plan of attack is mid 11s on motor so I don't have to cage it and spray of the streets. I really don't have any reason to be any quicker.

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #211 on: June 14, 2017, 12:29:33 PM »
Your playing with Fire.
Adding Gasoline 1 foot away smoking a Cigarette.

I know you do not have that Ford 9 inch yet Garry.

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #212 on: June 14, 2017, 01:33:47 PM »
Your playing with Fire.
Adding Gasoline 1 foot away smoking a Cigarette.

I know you do not have that Ford 9 inch yet Garry.

truth


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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #213 on: June 14, 2017, 01:49:26 PM »
Your playing with Fire.
Adding Gasoline 1 foot away smoking a Cigarette.

I know you do not have that Ford 9 inch yet Garry.

truth


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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #214 on: June 15, 2017, 12:24:39 PM »
Yeah once the house is paid off I can get serious. Should be able to do another 15 years standing on my head.
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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #215 on: August 03, 2017, 10:16:59 PM »
Your playing with Fire.
Adding Gasoline 1 foot away smoking a Cigarette.

I know you do not have that Ford 9 inch yet Garry.
I don't have a rollover valve in my fuel cell either. I'll be getting that handled while I'm doing this fuel system upgrade. Fairly certain the old setup wasn't letting to motor reach it's full potential.

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #216 on: August 04, 2017, 01:20:12 PM »
Your playing with Fire.
Adding Gasoline 1 foot away smoking a Cigarette.

I know you do not have that Ford 9 inch yet Garry.
I don't have a rollover valve in my fuel cell either. I'll be getting that handled while I'm doing this fuel system upgrade. Fairly certain the old setup wasn't letting to motor reach it's full potential.
Yes. Ok Garry.

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #217 on: August 05, 2017, 09:34:07 AM »
Your playing with Fire.
Adding Gasoline 1 foot away smoking a Cigarette.

I know you do not have that Ford 9 inch yet Garry.
I don't have a rollover valve in my fuel cell either. I'll be getting that handled while I'm doing this fuel system upgrade. Fairly certain the old setup wasn't letting to motor reach it's full potential.
Yes. Ok Garry.
Enough already, I agree. The car's really just a hell raiser. I take it to the track because I'm limited on places to raise it out here in the desert.

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #218 on: August 05, 2017, 09:49:50 AM »
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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #219 on: October 22, 2017, 10:41:52 PM »
Anything new garry?

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #220 on: April 12, 2018, 11:20:39 AM »
Anything new garry?

I pulled the Victor and spray off the car & put the factory hood back on. Right now I'm screwing around with a little bodywork.

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #221 on: April 27, 2018, 12:01:01 AM »
Glad to see your still working on your bird.

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #222 on: July 30, 2018, 08:57:12 PM »
Calvert split monos a set of Caltracs & some 28.5 x 10.5-15 wrinkle walls. Gonna try to leave on a 200 shot.  :twisted:


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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #223 on: July 30, 2018, 09:17:37 PM »
Calvert split monos a set of Caltracs & some 28.5 x 10.5-15 wrinkle walls. Gonna try to leave on a 200 shot.  :twisted:


There You are Gary.

Have to do some Burnouts in Town and make sure it goes straight.
If not adjust preload left or right rear as needed on the Caltracs.

Try a Big Hit off the Line.
Torque converter will love it or not.
One way Only Find out.
Give it Hell.

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #224 on: July 31, 2018, 10:38:17 AM »
Converter has an anti-balloon plate so no fear there


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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #225 on: August 04, 2018, 01:18:00 PM »
Temporary hood to clear the victor

 

ain't got to be pretty just don't like my carb in the open

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #226 on: August 21, 2018, 10:11:54 AM »
I took it out for a couple test hits the other night & it's a whole new ball game. Should pull an 11.5 pass standing on it's head now. New 8 point cage on the way.

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #227 on: August 21, 2018, 06:50:40 PM »
garry when are you planning on heading back out? didnt realize you where local but making it a point to hit the track this fall. would love to see it run!
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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #228 on: August 21, 2018, 10:32:18 PM »
On 10-12-18 I should be in Vas Vegas for the midnight mayhem/top 10 grudge event

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #229 on: September 10, 2018, 11:01:20 AM »





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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #230 on: October 13, 2018, 01:41:08 PM »
First pass of the night it pulled the front tires & ripped the driveshaft in half


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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #231 on: October 13, 2018, 08:24:54 PM »
Whoops...do you have a driveshaft loop further up?

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #232 on: October 14, 2018, 12:52:42 AM »
Nope and it twisted right at the front yoke. I'll be installing one for sure when I put the new driveshaft in.

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #233 on: October 26, 2018, 05:40:03 PM »
You must be making some serious power now!  If it weren't for bad luck, you'd have none Garry.   Sorry to see that happen.
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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #234 on: October 27, 2018, 08:56:41 AM »
Dayum!!!!!!
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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #235 on: October 27, 2018, 11:56:54 AM »
I only had enough time for 1 pass and it needed to count so I hit it with a 150 shot. I think it would have dipped into the 10s on that pass.

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #236 on: October 29, 2018, 09:39:26 AM »
Although not as effective at reducing your 60' time, sometimes its best to hit the nitrous after the launch.   
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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #237 on: October 29, 2018, 11:02:59 AM »
I installed a bigger kit last night and kicked it up to a 175 shot. Any more than that I'd probably need a progressive controller or maybe turn it into a 2 stage kit.

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #238 on: November 05, 2018, 12:36:23 PM »
 
   I read most of this thread...so it appears you went to Nitrous after your motor finally hit  12's?
   
    I'm still working on mine and getting little things worked out...our builds seems similar. 
  Rolling also with a 73 firebird 461 motor.  Specs..373 gear with strange axles and rear disc with read aluminum diff cover. Viking adjustable shocks,
  Kaufman heads, Holley 850 with DUI distributor.  Full exhaust with turbo 400 and a gear vendors unit-mostly for overdrive.  Solid roller cam 232\242 around 610 lift with 1.65's.  I also have caltracs that I just put on a few months back.  I ran using MT drag radials on 15inch rims. Only ran once in the 1/8 before caltracs ran the 1/4 a month ago with them.  I picked up my 60 foot from 1.79 to 1.62  approx..  The car ran 12.011 and 12.017.  Full weight car nothing removed.   I just took the trans out last weekend  to have it redone..it works fine but shifts like a Cadillac. Also since its out I am having the converter redone.  I  get one free redo from Ultimate Converters...so I will up that slightly.   

So that's the specs I am working with and the times I run.  Mine is just a part time track car...Mostly hit cars shows and drives...  However my goal is to get the car to 11.5 and be happy and done with it.
   

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Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #239 on: November 06, 2018, 03:55:56 PM »
Once you get it down to mid 11s (and you will) you're talking easy mid 10s on spray. Nice looking car dude.

Re: Best pass to date was a disappointing 13.1
« Reply #239 on: November 06, 2018, 03:55:56 PM »
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