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« Reply #160 on: May 31, 2017, 01:39:25 PM »
Moroso - Competition Engineering Slide A Link Traction Bars I have on my Trans Am.
Excellent Quality.
Like Caltrac But I think better.
They costed me around $450 to buy in 2004.
Still on my car.
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« Reply #161 on: May 31, 2017, 01:40:34 PM »
Lakewood or Budget Competition Engineering traction bars will work Ok also.

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« Reply #162 on: May 31, 2017, 02:08:21 PM »
Lakewood or Budget Competition Engineering traction bars will work Ok also.

The more I talk about the car the worse the situation gets, I'd be very wise to drift into the background on this one. i was going to get into a little more serious grudge racing but i think it'd just be stupid on my part at this time.

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« Reply #163 on: June 01, 2017, 05:56:13 PM »
Lakewood or Budget Competition Engineering traction bars will work Ok also.

The more I talk about the car the worse the situation gets, I'd be very wise to drift into the background on this one. i was going to get into a little more serious grudge racing but i think it'd just be stupid on my part at this time.
You have all Summer and most of the Fall. They Race in Arizona a long time seasonal. Never snows and if does its gone fast.
Better off taking your time and getting it done right your way.
Little guy drag racing is in Limbo .
Waiting Trump to get stuff done.
Elimination of Bama care.
Tax breaks.
Much more.
Congress to blame.
No New Corvette fast enough or Camaro to take on the New Dodge Demon due this fall drag racing.
Guys that are into Road Racing most cant afford.
Limbo too.

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« Reply #164 on: June 01, 2017, 05:58:36 PM »
Plug away.
Find side jobs local.
Surf all the Forums.
Find other Racers like us.
Sometimes you get hired to build.
Custom Fab projects I like.

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« Reply #165 on: June 02, 2017, 10:29:54 AM »
I was thinking about going rear disc brakes. I doubt it's a cure all but it'll help. Those Moser C-Clip eliminator kits have aluminum housings and this concerns me. They say drag race only.
 
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« Reply #166 on: June 02, 2017, 05:30:39 PM »
I was thinking about going rear disc brakes. I doubt it's a cure all but it'll help. Those Moser C-Clip eliminator kits have aluminum housings and this concerns me. They say drag race only.
No disc brake Caliper brackets and Caliper slide pins will not retain the axle shaft and tire and wheel for long if tge axle breaks anywhere.

All GM Clip Eliminators have aluminum construction.
Moser must have experienced A Lawsuit recent. Failure on street possible.
Want thier C-clip Eliminators used on Dragstrip.

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« Reply #167 on: June 02, 2017, 05:39:20 PM »
Fact is nothing will ever hold gear oil in as good as the Stock C-clip axle shaft.
All C-clip Elinators for GM rearends have a bad habits of dripping. Or steady leaks.
Gets worse when its Hot out.
In past I used only Strange Engineering C-Clip Eliminators with Strange Hy Tuff Axles.
Most track useage. Ford guys did Street Strip had leaks.
I had to replace the Flange gaskets.
Bead of Ultra Gray Slicone.
C-clip Eliminators dont like Bending torsional loads street driving. Hitting ruts or potholes.
If roads are decent should be ok.
Be prepared for gear oil drips.
Fixing when required.
I know where you at.
Tight budget.
Most are today.

Why 9 inch better.
Dana 60.
Pontiac 9.3 rear diff.
Bypass all leaks. They use an inner axle shaft seal pressed into eah axle tube.
Not possible on 10 & 12 with C-clip Eliminators.
You Cutoff Hawsaw the Roller bearing ends with stock seal bosses.

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« Reply #168 on: June 02, 2017, 05:43:41 PM »
True Race 9 good for 2000 Hp.
Dana 60 Built 2000 HP.
Stock layout with aftermarket axle shafts Posi Dana Unit 1000+ HP. DRAG SPOOL DANA 60 2000 HP+
Pontiac 9.3 was used in Early Nitromethane Funny Cars and Dragsters.
Near all Gassers.
1000 HP easy. Full Race likely 2000Hp Plus.

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« Reply #169 on: June 02, 2017, 08:26:52 PM »

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« Reply #170 on: June 02, 2017, 08:44:22 PM »
Here's a setup I trust right here. Steel housing ends. http://www.hotrod.com/articles/build-bulletproof-gm-10-bolt-axle-built-c-clip-eliminator/
I looked at your link and read.
I was thinking similar driving home.
Mark Williams or Strange Enginering Race Housing Ends for Ford 9, Dana 60, Pontiac 9.3.

Strange C-clip Eliminators have same disclaimer Drag Race Only now.
https://m.summitracing.com/parts/str-a1033

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« Reply #171 on: June 02, 2017, 08:46:38 PM »
I guess you have to follow through.
You have the 10-bolt prior with new gears you installed.

Like you said yourself I want a 9 inch.
Last week.

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« Reply #172 on: June 02, 2017, 08:48:20 PM »
Truetrac , Turbo Boost, 10 bolt, ect like that article states is a bad idea.

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« Reply #173 on: June 02, 2017, 08:49:53 PM »
I guess you have to follow through.
You have the 10-bolt prior with new gears you installed.

Like you said yourself I want a 9 inch.
Last week.

I do but it's not in the stars right now. Being able to swap the pig is a pretty cool feature on top of those c-clip eliminators.

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« Reply #174 on: June 02, 2017, 08:54:19 PM »
I turned down a sidejob recent Building a 8.5 10-bolt for a Chicago Street Racer.
540 Big Block Chevy with AFR Race Heads.
Procharger F1. 21 pounds of Boost.
1000 Hp not even trying.
Guys race for $500 to start.
50,000 big races.
Told it can not blow up.
Yeah Right.
It would have paid $400-500 cash.
Not worth getting shot later.

My bud Ed was mad at me.
Ridiculous.
Just Fick No Ed.
I WANT A DANA 60 OR FORGET IT.

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« Reply #175 on: June 02, 2017, 08:58:34 PM »
I turned down a sidejob recent Building a 8.5 10-bolt for a Chicago Street Racer.
540 Big Block Chevy with AFR Race Heads.
Procharger F1. 21 pounds of Boost.
1000 Hp not even trying.
Guys race for $500 to start.
50,000 big races.
Told it can not blow up.
Yeah Right.
It would have paid $400-500 cash.
Not worth getting shot later.

My bud Ed was mad at me.
Ridiculous.
Just Fick No Ed.
I WANT A DANA 60 OR FORGET IT.

If you think about the average Trans Am guy he'd probably rather keep his factory housing so maybe we helped someone else along the way. All good.

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« Reply #176 on: June 02, 2017, 09:34:56 PM »
I turned down a sidejob recent Building a 8.5 10-bolt for a Chicago Street Racer.
540 Big Block Chevy with AFR Race Heads.
Procharger F1. 21 pounds of Boost.
1000 Hp not even trying.
Guys race for $500 to start.
50,000 big races.
Told it can not blow up.
Yeah Right.
It would have paid $400-500 cash.
Not worth getting shot later.

My bud Ed was mad at me.
Ridiculous.
Just Fick No Ed.
I WANT A DANA 60 OR FORGET IT.

If you think about the average Trans Am guy he'd probably rather keep his factory housing so maybe we helped someone else along the way. All good.
Yes. Most everyone should be able to run 12's if they choose to go to the dragstrip.

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« Reply #177 on: June 02, 2017, 10:11:01 PM »
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Yes. Most everyone should be able to run 12's if they choose to go to the dragstrip.

You needed to be mid 10s back in Mi on the streets if you wanted to have serious fun. This car can't touch my old car no matter what I do to it.

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« Reply #178 on: June 02, 2017, 10:27:07 PM »
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Yes. Most everyone should be able to run 12's if they choose to go to the dragstrip.

You needed to be mid 10s back in Mi on the streets if you wanted to have serious fun. This car can't touch my old car no matter what I do to it.
Twin Turbo 88 mm it would & more.
Need at least $10,000 to feasibly pull it off.

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« Reply #179 on: June 02, 2017, 10:36:38 PM »
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Yes. Most everyone should be able to run 12's if they choose to go to the dragstrip.

You needed to be mid 10s back in Mi on the streets if you wanted to have serious fun. This car can't touch my old car no matter what I do to it.
Twin Turbo 88 mm it would & more.
Need at least $10,000 to feasibly pull it off.
Yeah there's no way that's happening. I could dip into the 9s on spray with my 69 and it was always on spray. When they tried to pull the disconnect your bottle crap it was like kiss my ass. I wasn't born yesterday.

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« Reply #180 on: June 02, 2017, 10:37:18 PM »
Need a really Good Stall torque converter also.
Difference will be night and day.
Down the road a different camshaft. A grind that does bleed off cylinder pressure. I seen that when I DD2000 the engine combo for you.

Everything used to be Full race as you know.
Reason why we had to run 100 motor octane gas or better. 110 was the way to go.

Everyone wanted nice tame street driving manners.
So they got it.
Result is running SLOWWWW.
Now that Drag Racing is back these Pro Tour Combos are worthless against Modern Muscle.
Ditto in the Corvette World.
Every single one got their asses handed to them by DODGE.

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« Reply #181 on: June 02, 2017, 10:48:05 PM »
Yeah my 69 ran on 110 and it was built to handle one hell of a nitrous hit. Night & day to what I have now.

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« Reply #182 on: June 02, 2017, 10:51:46 PM »
2nd gen is heavier.
Our 1970-73 not as bad as you think.
Later TA had huge Crash steel bumpers mandated my Feds.
Add an extra 200 lbs dead weight.  Smokey & Bandit era to 1981.

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« Reply #183 on: June 02, 2017, 10:54:41 PM »
Pontiac V8 Loves high compression.
Discovered long ago by Pontiac Engineers.

Have that pee water gas to deal with.

No substitute for 110 Lead Race Gas still unless Twin Turbo Boost.

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« Reply #184 on: June 02, 2017, 11:21:25 PM »
Pontiac V8 Loves high compression.
Discovered long ago by Pontiac Engineers.

Have that pee water gas to deal with.

No substitute for 110 Lead Race Gas still unless Twin Turbo Boost.

The race fuel sits in tanks forever out here at the gas stations. I don't even want to put it in my car. It running better on race fuel is a given and I won't spray without it.
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« Reply #185 on: June 03, 2017, 08:18:09 AM »
Pontiac V8 Loves high compression.
Discovered long ago by Pontiac Engineers.

Have that pee water gas to deal with.

No substitute for 110 Lead Race Gas still unless Twin Turbo Boost.

The race fuel sits in tanks forever out here at the gas stations. I don't even want to put it in my car. It running better on race fuel is a given and I won't spray without it.
The Race Fuel may be Ok.
I have stored Race Fuel for 2-5 years and ran my car on it later.
Longest was VP C16 116 motor octane race gas.
9/11 in 2001 After the commotion I went out and bought a bunch of Race Gasoline and Aviation gasoline.
Complete Chaos as you recall. Pump 87 was 7-8 bucks a gallon. Race fuel and AV gas was still cheap that day.
Stocked up. Forgot about it for several years.

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« Reply #186 on: June 03, 2017, 04:45:09 PM »
I'm trying to key myself down and these guys on facebook are getting me keyed right back up......

I ain't easy being me....  :mrgreen:

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« Reply #187 on: June 03, 2017, 04:57:53 PM »
I'm trying to key myself down and these guys on facebook are getting me keyed right back up......

I ain't easy being me....  :mrgreen:
Yeah I have a Facebook account.
I am on there sometimes.
Lots of Racers are on there.
Its Ok somedays. Other days it Bullshot.
The Younger guys than us are on Facebook nonstop.
I like Car Forums.

There are some groups I joined.
Engine building , Transmission building, Drag Racing.
It seemed Ok at 1st. I was watching.
Big name guys came in and took over.
Lots of details left out on builds as I have done on forums myself in past.
Its Ok to keep a secret edge to yourself.
I usually leave key clues for smart guys that can solve.
Let them research and learn as we did.

Big guys get mad when you tell them they are wrong or you have a different opinion.
So I dont post much on Facebook.

Better off staying off Facebook.
I know its hard.
All Racers like to bicker and fight.
Natural because that is part of the makeup of mechanics and racing.

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« Reply #188 on: June 03, 2017, 06:46:34 PM »
I'm trying to key myself down and these guys on facebook are getting me keyed right back up......

I ain't easy being me....  :mrgreen:
Yeah I have a Facebook account.
I am on there sometimes.
Lots of Racers are on there.
Its Ok somedays. Other days it Bullshot.
The Younger guys than us are on Facebook nonstop.
I like Car Forums.

There are some groups I joined.
Engine building , Transmission building, Drag Racing.
It seemed Ok at 1st. I was watching.
Big name guys came in and took over.
Lots of details left out on builds as I have done on forums myself in past.
Its Ok to keep a secret edge to yourself.
I usually leave key clues for smart guys that can solve.
Let them research and learn as we did.

Big guys get mad when you tell them they are wrong or you have a different opinion.
So I dont post much on Facebook.

Better off staying off Facebook.
I know its hard.
All Racers like to bicker and fight.
Natural because that is part of the makeup of mechanics and racing.
It keeps me up to date with the local street & drag racers. Meets & things like that. Status on their cars and whatever.

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« Reply #189 on: June 03, 2017, 06:54:18 PM »
If they pull the right strings I'll usually bring my car out.

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« Reply #190 on: June 03, 2017, 07:11:59 PM »
If they pull the right strings I'll usually bring my car out.
Breaking another stock axle shaft would suck.


Please refrain from using vulgar words.
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« Reply #191 on: June 03, 2017, 07:56:53 PM »
Ok. I looked on Facebook.
Lots going on.
Searching for deals for you with 9 & Dana 60.

Bud Ed sent me a Text.
Guy with the Cutlass Street race car blew the 540 BBC.
lost oil pressure.
Needs it back together by the 17th.
Big $5,000 race in Georgia.
Ed says No...I say Yes we both need the $$$$.

Chatting with a Chevy bud in New York.
He is going Road Racing in his Dads old 71 Chevelle.

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« Reply #192 on: June 04, 2017, 08:54:40 AM »
Ok. I looked on Facebook.
Lots going on.
Searching for deals for you with 9 & Dana 60.

Bud Ed sent me a Text.
Guy with the Cutlass Street race car blew the 540 BBC.
lost oil pressure.
Needs it back together by the 17th.
Big $5,000 race in Georgia.
Ed says No...I say Yes we both need the $$$$.

Chatting with a Chevy bud in New York.
He is going Road Racing in his Dads old 71 Chevelle.
Got a hookup on ford 9 last night. Just a matter of getting out of the house.

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« Reply #193 on: June 04, 2017, 03:14:51 PM »
Ok. I looked on Facebook.
Lots going on.
Searching for deals for you with 9 & Dana 60.

Bud Ed sent me a Text.
Guy with the Cutlass Street race car blew the 540 BBC.
lost oil pressure.
Needs it back together by the 17th.
Big $5,000 race in Georgia.
Ed says No...I say Yes we both need the $$$$.

Chatting with a Chevy bud in New York.
He is going Road Racing in his Dads old 71 Chevelle.
Got a hookup on ford 9 last night. Just a matter of getting out of the house.
That is Great News Garry.
Much better suited for what your doing.
Drag Race. And Street Driving Fun.

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« Reply #194 on: June 06, 2017, 07:27:06 PM »
Ok. I looked on Facebook.
Lots going on.
Searching for deals for you with 9 & Dana 60.

Bud Ed sent me a Text.
Guy with the Cutlass Street race car blew the 540 BBC.
lost oil pressure.
Needs it back together by the 17th.
Big $5,000 race in Georgia.
Ed says No...I say Yes we both need the $$$$.

Chatting with a Chevy bud in New York.
He is going Road Racing in his Dads old 71 Chevelle.
Got a hookup on ford 9 last night. Just a matter of getting out of the house.
That is Great News Garry.
Much better suited for what your doing.
Drag Race. And Street Driving Fun.
The streets are boring me these days. Once in a blue moon when I get the itch. It doesn't cost much to keep the car legal in the meantime.

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« Reply #195 on: June 06, 2017, 07:45:50 PM »
Get your kicks on route 66...... what a joke. A show of hands to all that loved history class shuts that joke down quick.

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« Reply #196 on: June 07, 2017, 05:21:49 AM »
Ok. I looked on Facebook.
Lots going on.
Searching for deals for you with 9 & Dana 60.

Bud Ed sent me a Text.
Guy with the Cutlass Street race car blew the 540 BBC.
lost oil pressure.
Needs it back together by the 17th.
Big $5,000 race in Georgia.
Ed says No...I say Yes we both need the $$$$.

Chatting with a Chevy bud in New York.
He is going Road Racing in his Dads old 71 Chevelle.
Got a hookup on ford 9 last night. Just a matter of getting out of the house.
That is Great News Garry.
Much better suited for what your doing.
Drag Race. And Street Driving Fun.
The streets are boring me these days. Once in a blue moon when I get the itch. It doesn't cost much to keep the car legal in the meantime.
Its that time of year now.
Hotrod Power Tour is about to start.

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« Reply #197 on: June 07, 2017, 05:29:52 AM »
Get your kicks on route 66...... what a joke. A show of hands to all that loved history class shuts that joke down quick.
Most here are into Pro Touring.
We are the only Die Hard Drag Racers right now here that I know of.
They do not really understand us.
We Grew up in era when everyone raced every single night in the spring, summer, & fall.

Facebook I have been on lately.
Lots going on there.

You live in the Desert.
I live in the middle of Cornland.
Drive into South Chicago every day for work.

The Only Road race track there is the Autobahn. Its a Private club and you have to put up $10,000 cash I am told to play and race on their track. When I worked in a Race shop with a Mustang AWD Chassis Dyno next to Route 66 Raceway I was told that by other C5 & C6 Corvette owners that stopped in and had money to burn. Road raced.







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« Reply #198 on: June 07, 2017, 05:40:03 AM »
Been thinking about the Edelbrock E heads for Pontiac V8's.
Not responding making the HP of course as desired. In theory they should deliver 100 Hp more than present had.
Camshaft swap not possible present.
Set with the supplied Port shape & Runner Volumes can not change.

Recalling old Ken Crocie articles where he used E Heads on Stroker Pontiac V8's.
Timing was set at 26 -29 BTDC only.
The Edge was using 110 -112- 114 Pure Leaded Race Fuel uncut. 100 % Virgin Clean out the Race Fuel container in 55 gallon or 5 gallon VP or Sunoco containers.

I think need to match the Burn rate of the combustion chambers to Race Fuel.

I have noticed the same with my 614 1970 RAIV Heads on my 70 Trans Am in the Past.
Real race Fuel unlocks Power gains.



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« Reply #199 on: June 07, 2017, 09:22:56 AM »
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Real race Fuel unlocks Power gains

Yeah race fuel would pep mine right up. If I ever spray it I'll be running it. I don't want to advance the timing right now on cheap gas.

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« Reply #199 on: June 07, 2017, 09:22:56 AM »
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