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TRANS AM BUILD THAT LEFT THE RESERVATION
« on: September 13, 2016, 05:22:21 PM »
I went to SEMA last year and looked at how the industry has changed in the last 36 years. And the battle of the builders caught my attention. The builds they were doing was nothing like what I have started. When I got back I drug the car out of moth ball and started to get set up to build this car.
This was my high school car that I started on in 1980. At the time I was working at an automotive machine shop. I cut the rear out of the car to tub it and connect the subframe. Well then I got a job at a  road race fabrication shop and then I cut the front end off the car and built a front suspension and frame. The next year I got a job in and Indy car fab shop and built some pretty cool cars for the next few years and didn't touch the car. In 1985 I left the Indy car world and started a business and didn't have time to work on the car but in spits and starts off and on. The car sat in the back of my building till last September when I said self lets finish this car. So for the last year I have been working on this project a couple of hours per day when I can and I have hired a good fabricator to come in and give me a hand trying to push the build forward.  After reading and looking at these pictures you may tell me to get  professional mental help. It has been a on going challenge to bring this car up to 2016 standards when it was started in 1980. So it looks like no pictures for now.

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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2016, 07:25:02 PM »
Not sure I follow all that.... pictures?
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2016, 07:27:31 PM »
Ok, so what now??  You are in the process of building/restoring a second gen?  Would love to see it!
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2016, 07:42:10 AM »
I would love to post pictures but I cant seem to make it work. I tried for an hour last night and gave up.
The directions don't seem to match photo bucket and image shack.I don't  see how to link back to this site.
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2016, 08:38:56 AM »
The way it looked when it came out of moth ball


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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2016, 08:54:09 AM »
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2016, 08:55:32 AM »
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2016, 09:09:53 AM »
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2016, 09:31:18 AM »
Wow! That is crazy... How is the body going on that?
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2016, 09:41:48 AM »
Goes right inside the body. It's 40" tall at ride height. some cutting was required.

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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2016, 09:48:52 AM »
When people say they build cars, they often mean they restore, refurbish, or reassemble cars.

You, my friend, are an authentic car builder. Not to say I would ever want to learn what you know, since I don't have the need for it. But I respect it very much.



How do you cut every piece to be the exact perfect length and weld it all together with nothing out of whack? Do you use precision measuring or just tape measures?

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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2016, 10:07:29 AM »
In 1980 I drew a 1/2 scale full drawing of the car and frame and the suspension. Today I use Solid Works I will post some pictures of the rear end and such later.

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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2016, 10:59:08 AM »
Welcome to the forum! This is my kind of build! And for once I get to be the guy to say what everyone says to me.   "Looks good! All's ya gotta do is......"

Quite a background you've got. Where are you?
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2016, 11:26:14 AM »
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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2016, 11:57:38 AM »
Wow.  One of my dreams is to build something like that.  Please do give us an update once in a while. 
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2016, 12:00:44 PM »
very cool.  Thanks for posting.  I'm looking forward to seeing the progress.
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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2016, 05:37:13 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2016, 07:22:56 PM »
Ummm, is that going to be street driven?

If so, let me be the first here to say, "get mental help" LOL you asked for it.

There now that that's out of the way, I'm cheering for you to get it done.

What year body is it? How stock are you planning to keep the body looking? 
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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2016, 12:27:31 PM »
Yep street car all the way. Don't want the ice cream to melt do you? It started life as a 1974 455TA my high school car. It will look like a 1974 TRAN AM that went to the future and returned. It will need to be a little bulgier than stock to get the tires under it. Heat and AC and all the creature comforts. Just a daily driver.

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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2016, 04:27:37 PM »
Holy smokes. Never thought about using a mill to make a true cut like that. That tubing project is pretty neat all in itself. Can't wait to see more!
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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2016, 02:21:30 PM »
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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2016, 02:30:14 PM »
I am truly beginning to hate 3-1/2 dia exhaust tubing!!!!

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« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2016, 07:48:59 AM »
I need some help guys. Where do you think is the best area and look to exit the exhaust pipes?? The pipes are 3.500 in dia. Should they exit straight out to the rear parallel to the ground like a stock 1974 or exit at the rear of the tires angled out and down? I have mocked both up and just can't decide. The area rear of the tires will be straighter than factory due to the 355 tire size. What you think??

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« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2016, 08:29:06 AM »
the car is going to look amazing . when I get to doing my exhaust I will be exiting mine through the lower part of the quarter panels. never seen this done on a 2nd gen before

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« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2016, 09:48:28 AM »
Given all the modification to the car so far and what else is going to happen, I think I would be trying to get as close to stock looking as I could on this part, just so it still looks a bit like what it was when it was born.
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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2016, 10:53:50 AM »
I like the idea of going with the "look" of the original 74 pipes but not as long so they are tucked under the bumper a bit more than the originals.
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« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2016, 03:36:39 PM »
WELL 1980 CRASHED INTO 2016 and my 9 INCH FORD FLOATER HOUSING. Had to cut a bunch off structure out of the way for new rear end and 3-1/2" exhaust pipes.
That has caused me to have a bad attitude.

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« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2016, 03:46:32 PM »
I guess I will let Eric get the exhaust pipes finished,I will see how to put the structure back in the car . Hope by then my frustration has passed. You guys know this dance one step forward and two steps backwards.

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« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2016, 09:43:18 AM »
Really cool build!

3.5" tubing is a pain to route. It'll all work out in the end.
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« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2016, 10:52:52 AM »
I need some help guys. Where do you think is the best area and look to exit the exhaust pipes?? The pipes are 3.500 in dia. Should they exit straight out to the rear parallel to the ground like a stock 1974 or exit at the rear of the tires angled out and down? I have mocked both up and just can't decide. The area rear of the tires will be straighter than factory due to the 355 tire size. What you think??

I kicked mine very slight up (paralleling body pinch weld) and kicked inward - sort of like the 70-73 Camaro's did it.  See how the body starts tapering inward - I tried to follow that, have all the lines flow together...  As you know the exhaust has cooled significantly out of the muffler so you could drop down to 3" with no flow penalty.


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« Reply #33 on: October 08, 2016, 06:09:34 PM »
It's amazing what 4 days at deer camp can do to your attitude. I got back and finally had a clear head and wanted to get back to work on the car.



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« Reply #34 on: October 08, 2016, 06:32:15 PM »
One other interesting thing that I ran into this week. I went over to my engine builder and we got TCI on the phone to order the transmission. I had got my pile of money together $6500.00 so we were on the phone with TCI going down the check list of can the 6speed automatic handle the 800 foot pounds of torque, check.  Can it handle a 1000 hp , check. Does it has engine braking , NO !!! what--- ,NO-- he says again. Brakes squealing full stop. WTF they claim it is for pro touring ???? So I fell back and  punted. The take away from this is be sure you ask a lot of questions and have a check list of what you need.

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« Reply #35 on: October 09, 2016, 04:57:27 AM »
Cool build. I will be watching your progress. I have often wondered how do you build something like this and try to design it so it can be worked on fairly easy after the fact. Must take alot of head scratching
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« Reply #36 on: October 09, 2016, 12:06:43 PM »
I did not realize they were making an aftermarket 6 speed automatic.  Is there some underlying GM transmission that they are modifying to get that?

I have a hard time believing they wouldn't have engine braking.  As far as I can tell, that has always been considered necessary for every automatic ever built.  Would be interesting to find somebody who already has one and find out for yourself.
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« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2016, 03:11:20 PM »
Exhaust finished!!! I started getting structure back in chassis and looking at sheetmetal. But I must leave for deer camp for a week to take care of bambie.
Trying to decide if I want to go to SEMA this year or go to PRI this year. I have a customer that wants me to go to SEMA and look at some stuff for them. tuff being forced to go to SEMA. Must go get deer therapy and ponder. :D

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« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2016, 11:05:41 AM »
OH MY LORD!  Absolutely amazing!!!

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« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2016, 02:45:26 PM »
Amazing.  Makes my frustrating 77 TA restoration look like a walk in the park.

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