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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #800 on: September 03, 2019, 01:55:33 AM »
What a great car!!!
Mike (aka Yeti)

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #801 on: September 03, 2019, 03:28:02 AM »
Suspension looks good for sure.  That was an awesome deal you got there.

Congratulations again on #2

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #802 on: September 03, 2019, 08:32:11 AM »
Congrats to you and the Mrs. on number two!!! that is awesome news

The car looks really cool too...keep it up!!
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #803 on: September 03, 2019, 10:05:40 PM »
Congrats on #2 Ryan!

Car looks great.
I just did a similar upper and lower control arm install. Went about the same as
yours (but I broke one of the upper bolts and had to replace).
Still haven't gotten the alignment but not driving the car til after dyno tuning.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #804 on: September 03, 2019, 11:31:12 PM »
Congratulations on the new addition to your family! Your car is coming along even better with the suspension upgrades!
Jim
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #805 on: September 05, 2019, 01:24:56 PM »
Thanks for all of the well wishes! Baby boy is starting to sleep through the night so we are all doing much better! Hard to believe He's 7 weeks old today.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #806 on: October 01, 2019, 09:40:02 AM »
I went to my first Auto X event this past weekend and it was an absolute blast. I was up the night before making a few tweaks to the car that I had been meaning to do. First was (embarrassingly enough) getting some exhaust hangers on the mufflers. When I first got the car together and the exhaust all welded up, I used some mechanics wire through some muffler hangers. Out of sight, out of mind but I wanted to address this since I knew I was going to be throwing it into some hard corners. Sorry no pictures.

Then I moved on to address a faulty knock sensor. I have gotten a P0327 Low performance code since I first got the car going and wanted to address it since I had the motivation. Installed the new AC Delco knock sensor, and this was the engine at about midnight before the event. Unfortunately on the way to the event, the code came right back on. So that leads me to believe it's a wiring issue.



I had to grab something to eat and stopped by the Dunkin Donuts, and I'm sure it was a coincidence, but there were a few boys in blue. Thought it made for a funny picture.



My buddy that came with me took several pictures of my car. It had minimal body roll and really hugged the corners.

























This is going to be my first of many events. I really had a great time and was so nice to use the car for the purpose of how it was built. The LS1 pulled hard and I actually never left first gear since it was such a short course. It's really a lot harder than it sounds to stay on course and not get lost in the cones... We were fortunate to have 5 runs in the AM and 5 runs in the PM. I got lost on the first two runs, the third I was able to complete and had a time of 34.9, then the last two were 33 and 32, but I kept going around the wrong cone so they didn't count.

Then in the PM after I had an opportunity to watch the others run, I got a better feel for the course and completed all of my runs. This time I was getting more aggressive and got a few penalties for cones. My best was a 27.1 with no penalties, but my fastest time was a 26.8 +2 for one cone.

It was really cool in the AM too, my Mom was watching my older son and brought him along to watch for a few runs. He really enjoyed watching all the "race cars". And even though I did poorly in the AM, it was really cool having my son wave at me and cheer me on!

Then on the way home at an undisclosed non-closed course, I tried to best my time of 5.4. I knew that I had more in it. Much happier with this! Other than the darn check engine light for the knock sensor...



Cheers,
Ryan

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #807 on: October 01, 2019, 10:09:37 AM »
Ryan, I almost bought a very clean ws6 for my son, but the knock code kept showing up on the car.  The seller was great, but I didn't feel good about spending over my budget for a potential ghost issue.  Anyhow, he replaced the coding sensor with a advanced part.  Code came back.  Replaced the one with a gm sensor.  Code showed up on the other.  Replaced it with a gm.  Related code showed up.  Replaced both sensors, and wire.  No more code.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #808 on: October 01, 2019, 01:13:38 PM »
Ryan, I almost bought a very clean ws6 for my son, but the knock code kept showing up on the car.  The seller was great, but I didn't feel good about spending over my budget for a potential ghost issue.  Anyhow, he replaced the coding sensor with a advanced part.  Code came back.  Replaced the one with a gm sensor.  Code showed up on the other.  Replaced it with a gm.  Related code showed up.  Replaced both sensors, and wire.  No more code.

Thanks Mike, this is good info. I was going to pull the intake one more time since it really only takes about 10 mins. Then test the continuity of the Dorman knock sensor harness I installed. Thought going with a new one would be good insurance... Not so much. I have an old harness GM harness that I will try depending on what I find from the continuity on the Dorman unit. I also potentially have a grounding issue with the harness as I noticed one of the wires was pinched slightly from the LS6 intake I installed. That very well could be my problem... But I was in a hurry and just threw it back together.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #809 on: October 01, 2019, 01:59:53 PM »
Glad to see you got it out!  Hopefully I can join the fun one day!

Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #810 on: October 01, 2019, 06:50:53 PM »
That looks like fun! I would love to do that (in someone else's car). I fear beating on a 150k engine would not make it long for this world. I worry to much about that.... Glad you're having fun with it!
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #811 on: October 01, 2019, 07:56:41 PM »
That looks like fun! I would love to do that (in someone else's car). I fear beating on a 150k engine would not make it long for this world. I worry to much about that.... Glad you're having fun with it!

LS engines rip even with those miles.  I felt that way with my ‘98 LS1 Trans Am for a short time until I started daily driving it.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #812 on: October 02, 2019, 09:53:44 AM »
I'm not so much worried about the LS1, but more like the T56. Once I get a cam in the car, it'll be closer to the 450 tq rating of the trans. Hands down, that event was the most fun I've ever had in any car. Lots of dudes there were running their daily drivers. I got to ride with a guy in a '17 Subaru WRX, and that thing flat our rips.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #813 on: October 02, 2019, 09:59:33 AM »
Hmm. Maybe I see a used T56 from a Camaro coming my way... :D
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #814 on: October 03, 2019, 06:42:16 AM »
Nice thing is that since you have a 4L60e already, you can re-use the driveshaft and trans crossmember since they are in the same locations in Fbody cars.  :cool:

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #815 on: October 12, 2019, 12:53:42 PM »
I was just getting up to date with the build

0-60 in 4.3 seconds is pretty sweet

Charlie

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #816 on: November 18, 2019, 02:45:09 PM »
The car has now been put up for the winter. I got a few more cruises in before the weather turned, and unfortunately we had a streak of cold weather come through and they salted the roads... Haven't done a thing to the car, but I did pick up a 6.0 that came from a H2 and a set of 821 LS3 cylinder heads in exchange for building an LS swap for a buddy. Now I'm not sure if I want to sell the LS1 and use that money to buy a good good cam and rebuild this motor, OR just sell this and use the proceeds to buy a cam kit for my LS1?











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http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=74591.0

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #817 on: November 18, 2019, 02:58:33 PM »
Decisions, decisions.  I'm at the age where HP doesn't really matter as long as it runs great. If I had more $$$ I'd have you build me basic LS in case my 150k motor decides to give up.
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #818 on: November 18, 2019, 04:40:38 PM »
I kinda feel that way too. I don't need a race car, but I keep going back and forth on which way I want to go with mine. I really like the idea of what I perceive to be a 'reliable' motor that I could travel in if I wanted to  and get decent mpg but then again I like the idea of Pontiac power too.
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #819 on: November 18, 2019, 06:21:28 PM »
I really want to add efi to my 301 in my Formula.
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #820 on: November 18, 2019, 06:57:19 PM »
I really want to add efi to my 301 in my Formula.

Me too but that won't happen for some time!!

Charlie

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #821 on: November 22, 2019, 08:53:12 PM »
I am in the sell the ls1 to fund the 6.0 build camp. If only to pay homage to the old saying that there is no replacement for displacement...
Actually  I would assume it would be cheaper / easier to chase horsepower down the road if you decide that's what you want to do.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #822 on: November 25, 2019, 07:40:30 AM »
Still not sure what I want to do. I'm in no rush so I've got some time to decide.

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http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=74591.0

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #823 on: January 02, 2020, 12:07:32 PM »
I haven't had much to update in a while, but I've made a few changes lately so thought I'd share. As I ususally do, I was cruising the classifieds and I found a guy selling an LS turbo log manifold and he ended up swapping me for a LC2 wideband that I wasn't going to use. I haven't had a chance to test fit, but I'm hoping that it will make for a nice compact turbo setup.





I'll definitely need to cut it down some to make it play friendly with my hood, but I'll test fit as is first. Maybe I'll get lucky.





I've been thinking about making the switch to a Holley based EFI system for a while now for the added flexibility. Then I found that manifold, someone bought the engine harness from my Camaro, and there were discounts from one the sponsors on Black Friday. So I pulled the trigger and bought the new Terminator X kit for LS1's.

First I had to rip out my stock standalone harness and ECU.





Then my Terminator X showed up!













One thing that was very interesting is that the ECU is so much smaller than a factory 0411 ECU.







When I started reading the instructions I realized that since this ECU doesn't use an MAF, I needed to get a new IAT (or MAT as referred to on the Holley instructions). Since the 85MM MAF I'm using has an integrated IAT I couldn't use that. I found that a few people were using a threaded IAT from a 90's Typhoon, and it would thread right into one of the unused ports on the LS6 intakes.



All for now. I've got some stock harnesses and ECU's that I'm converting for a few people so until those are complete, I'm holding off on installing the new ECU. I can't wait until I can install it though.

Thanks,
Ryan

1976 Trans Am LS1, 6 speed, C5 Brakes, LS1 rear 12" brakes, and much more...SOLD
My Build: http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=24465.0

New project: 1968 Camaro LS6, T56, Speedtech, Hotchkis, DSE, Z51 13.4" front brakes, LS1 rear disks, etc.
http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=74591.0

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #824 on: January 02, 2020, 12:56:24 PM »
Man, with all the programming you should have it down by now and not need the Holly... Just kidding,  I know you need the flexibility of the new ecm.  I have always wanted to mess with turbos but the programming and stuff is still voodoo to me. I'd like to turbo my 301 and make it efi just because. Keep us posted on the progress.  I'm really interested in the new ecm programming capabilities and that turbo.
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #825 on: January 02, 2020, 10:35:32 PM »
X2!  As you know a Turbo is on my future project list, so I'm quite curious to see how that project goes.
I love it when people like you figure all this stuff out so people like me can just follow in your footsteps.  Thank you!
Tom
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #826 on: January 03, 2020, 09:35:20 AM »
I'm really excited to start the build too and don't mind blazing the trail! Although, I'm generally following someone else's tail as well. And the factory ECU is fully capable of controlling a boosted engine, especially since HP tuners offers a custom OS specifically for boosted applications. But what really intrigued me about the Holley ECU's is that you have programmable inputs and outputs, having a wideband O2 that is integrated to help dial in fueling and timing tables much faster, and that it has an integrated boost controller tables.

I'm going to have to save up for a while before I can pull the trigger on the turbo stuff, but once I get the ECU installed it will be one less piece I'll need to figure out. I may end up mocking up the hot side to connect the turbo since that won't cost me much. Basically one exhaust pipe connecting the existing driver's header to the new passenger side log. The driver's side header already has a V-Band connector on it so it will be a simple connection.  :cool:

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My Build: http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=24465.0

New project: 1968 Camaro LS6, T56, Speedtech, Hotchkis, DSE, Z51 13.4" front brakes, LS1 rear disks, etc.
http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=74591.0

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #827 on: January 31, 2020, 12:22:15 PM »
I haven't gotten much work done on my car, but I've been keeping busy. Thankfully, our son is starting to sleep all throughout the nights. Now that I'm caught back up on my sleep, I can go out into the garage for a few hours after everyone goes to bed a few times a week. I've taken on a few side jobs modifying harnesses for some friends, so I've been busy working on those. I've finished one and am in the middle of the other one.



My wife got me a few car parts for my birthday earlier this month. A long time ago I bought some Holley EFI fuel rails at a swap meet, but didn't want to run the AN fittings that they came with. My car is running 3/8 Nylon lines with the factory GM quick connect fittings. So I needed to find a -8 ORB to 3/8 GM quick connect 90* swivel. Only one that I could find was made by Russell #644-063, and it was just what I needed. She also got me the USB to Can harness for the Terminator X system so I can hook my laptop up to make changes.







Once I get the last harness finished up, I plan to jump back on my Camaro. I need to finish the interior; Dye the door panels/ Dash pad, install headliner and sail panels, and button up a bunch of things I didn't get to last year. One of the things I've been keeping an eye out for was any radio that I can use to just fill the hole in my dash. A local member hooked me up, Thanks Mitch!!





Eventually I'll get something else for a radio, but this one will make the dash at least look complete.

Thanks,
Ryan

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My Build: http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=24465.0

New project: 1968 Camaro LS6, T56, Speedtech, Hotchkis, DSE, Z51 13.4" front brakes, LS1 rear disks, etc.
http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=74591.0

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #828 on: January 31, 2020, 01:11:41 PM »
I feel your pain and relief haha.  We just had our baby do her first 6hrs of sleep last night.  No garage stuff for me though.  Hopefully I can get my garage organized enough to do something this year.  It’s hard doing anything with a small 1 car setup.

Can’t wait to see you rockin the Terminator X!

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #829 on: March 18, 2020, 11:42:47 AM »
I haven't done any work on the car until last weekend. I pulled the cover off to see what needed to be done in order to get it back up and running again. It took me a while to decide where I wanted to drill the rather large hole in the firewall for the ECU. Since I had my 0411 ECU mounted behind the passenger headlight, I didn't have a big hole. After a lot of thought, I found that the most discrete and accessible location was right above the throttle pedal mount.

2" hole saw per Holley's instructions.





Once the hole was drilled, I started to lay out the harness to see how it fit. Overall pretty happy, but I will likely re-loom it at some point for a little cleaner install. I'm waiting until I get the system fully up and running before I do anything like that though.







Right now I'm in the middle of figuring out what wiring I need to install in addition to what the Terminator X comes with. I'm going to add an input for VSS right now, and an output for my cooling fan and reverse lockout. I'll likely have to change that when I add my turbo next fall, but time will tell. I need to add a wire for the alternator exciter, reverse lights and various loose wires outlined in the Holley instructions. I also need to route the wideband wires. I'm going to run it to the passenger side since I'll eventually have my downpipe there. I'm also in the process of thinking through how I want to mount the ECU, wiring and fuse/relay block in the glove box. Right now I'm thinking about either building a new glove box liner out of aluminum and then mounting it all there, or possibly using my stock one but mixing up some resin to harden it. I'm leaning more towards the aluminum and if possible I'd like to make it out of one piece.

Before I got the Holley install started, I test fit the console that came with my car just to see what it looks like. Not sure how I feel.



I also bought this SD card adapter so I can help my dad tune his Holley EFI this summer.



All for now. Hope to have it running by the weekend.

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My Build: http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=24465.0

New project: 1968 Camaro LS6, T56, Speedtech, Hotchkis, DSE, Z51 13.4" front brakes, LS1 rear disks, etc.
http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=74591.0

Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #829 on: March 18, 2020, 11:42:47 AM »

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #830 on: March 18, 2020, 07:40:40 PM »
Did the Holley ECU spec mounting inside the passenger compartment?

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #831 on: March 19, 2020, 06:41:47 AM »
Holley doesn't have any requirement for where you mount the ECU, but the Terminator X does need to be in the cabin and not in the engine bay. It doesn't have the water proofing from what I understand.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #832 on: March 19, 2020, 07:17:46 AM »
Ryan, there you go again speaking in some foreign language! LOL.
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #833 on: March 19, 2020, 09:23:36 AM »
One of the huge benefits to Holley's systems are the programmable inputs/outputs. Basically if I hook a wire to one of the inputs, I just tell the computer what it is and what it's supposed to do. I'll try and take some screenshots. So for VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor), I'll tell the computer what signal to expect, how many rotations per mile (depends on tire size) and it will add it as an input. Then I can use it to cut fuel at a certain speed, or more importantly when I boost the car, it can boost by speed.  :cool:

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #834 on: March 26, 2020, 07:44:28 AM »
I made a little more progress last night on mounting my ECU. A few nights ago I played around with a few ideas and came up with a design that mounted the ECU in the glove box. When it was late a night after I finished it, I was happy enough and thought that it would be fine since nobody would really see it.



Well after thinking about it, I wasn't happy with it. There wasn't much room for mounting a relay, fuse panel or other things. So after searching around a while, I came across a post here at PT, and someone built exactly what I was looking to do. It was great to see what was done, and it gave me the inspiration to build my own.

Out with the old.



Then I started on Version 2.0. I went out to my metal pile and found this old block off plate that I made for my 1976 Trans Am, and will re-purpose into my glove box plate.



The piece wasn't quite long enough to make the panel in one piece, so I decided to make it in two and just rivet together.



Test fit both pieces to mark where I had to bend and rivet.



Now it's one piece and a test fit with the ECU bolted down.





After I mounted the ECU, I realized that the rod for the glove box door went right through where the ECU plugs go. I got super lucky because it passes right between the main power and the two plugs and clears everything by at least a 1/2". :)

I was playing around with different options so that I can have a radio this year in the car, and am contemplating running this Double Din radio I removed from my old truck before I sold it.



It kinda fits there, but not sure if there was enough room for the plugs to fit in the rear.

Then I stuck in my Freebie AM radio so that the dash looks complete. Thanks Mitch!! That looks so much better!



Lastly, I picked up some plugs for my t56. Since the new ECU doesn't incorporate the 6 speed by default, I need to add these wires so I can have reverse lights, vehicle speed (VSS) and reverse lockout functional. I'll have to use one input to add VSS and output to activate the reverse lockout. Both will require programming to work properly. I'll be sure to add some screenshots of how I do this down the road.



I've got a few parts on the way to hopefully finish up this install one of them is a large enough firewall grommet. A 2" firewall grommet was surprisingly difficult to find. I was hoping to find some sort of cheap bulk pack  so I had them for future projects, but I didn't feel like searching any longer, so I just bought the one pack I found on eBay.

I also need to find a good place for the 3.5" screen that came with the Terminator X. Anyone have any creative suggestions?

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #835 on: March 27, 2020, 09:17:58 AM »
Yesterday was finally warm enough to get outside and paint some parts. I bought the SEM Vinyl paint a while ago, but am finally ready to attempt dying the panels black. I started out by cleaning the parts off with window glass cleaner two times with a plastic scrub brush. First time to get the bulk of the junk, second time for good measure. Next I used a painting cleanup product called Preps-All, that's meant for cleaning up grease and wax before painting a car. The last step was recommended to me by an old body shop guy in lieu of the SEM adhesion promoter. I took some lacquer thinner and wiped it evenly across all of the parts and let it dry. The lacquer softened up the material and made it a little tacky. Then I sprayed one light coat, one light to medium coat and then one heavy coat waiting 5-10 minutes in between. Here are the results, I'm very happy and so far the coating seems very durable. I scratched a section with my finger nail and it didn't peal or flake off.





I started with those two panels since they weren't in the best shape, and couldn't really make them much worse. I was so happy with the results, I decided to paint my blue dash pad as well! The dash had more of a build up of dirt/grease/grime so I got out my copper wire brush and that did the trick.





The finish is a dead ringer for the original color!



I'm hoping to get the dash wiring cleaned up over the next few weeks so that I can get the gauges reinstalled. Then I can finalize the Terminator X install and clean up any wiring related to that. I'd love to get that done in the next few weeks and possibly get it out for a test drive since the weather is unusually warm for this time of year.

Thanks,
Ryan

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #836 on: March 27, 2020, 09:25:11 AM »
Gettin' it done.  Good stuff man!

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #837 on: April 01, 2020, 11:01:41 AM »
On Sunday in between the kiddos napping and grilling out, I was able to get the headliner bows painted and the headliner flange pieces prepped for the install. I scuffed the bows with 80 grit, sprayed with self etching primer and rattle canned them. Didn't take too much time considering they won't be seen. Just didn't want them all rusty. I got lucky when I bought the car as the headliner was still installed, so when I disassembled, I labeled them for an easy re-install.





I had laid the headliner in the sun a few days before and it got most of the wrinkles out, but not all. I laid it out on the floor of the garage to mark the center line. Fold it in half length ways, then mark the center. I'm honestly glad I did, because I considered not doing it. I figured that I would be able to eyeball the center line, but with it all hanging down when you are in the car, it made it very difficult. Tip to those who may attempt in the future.





Couldn't forget my dome light!



After I cleaned up the headliner flanges, I was amazed at how clean they were! They are untouched originals from 1968. One little surface rust spot on the passenger side.



These are the correct screws in case anyone is wondering.



Flanges installed as well as some screws in the holes for the sun visors. Another tip I found when looking up how to install a headliner.



Everything that I read on installing headliners, said to start with the center bow first. This bow is almost more like a metal coat hanger rod, but curved at the ends. Once all the bows were installed, I started in the center. The center bow has some teeth that point towards the rear of the car, so I punched them through the loops for the center and pulled tightly towards the front of the car. I proceeded to pop the front two bows in place.



I borrowed this bucket of binder clips from work and started to clip everything roughly in place.





Then moved onto installing the rear headliner flange. This one was not in as good of shape as the front's but overall not bad. I scuffed and shot with some paint to help prevent the rust from coming back.



Everything tightened up quite nicely for the first go around.





I wanted to get the headliner in place so that it could stretch out in place for a few days. I plan to go back sometime this week and re-adjust it all before it's glued in place.


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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #838 on: April 01, 2020, 12:22:35 PM »
Next on the list was getting a power distribution box. I ordered one from eBay and was pretty pleased with the quality for the price. It gives me a central place to run power and grounds so that I can clean up some of my wiring. The problem was that I also needed to have both constant 12v and switched 12v sources. So I decided to take it apart and see what I could do.





Once I split it apart, I determined where I wanted to split the panel into two circuits.





I crimped and soldered on a eye terminal, added some heat shrink and bolted it down to the new switched 12v side. I added a little notch for the 12 gauge wire to pass through. I didn't add a picture before I buttoned it up, but I added a piece of plastic as an added barrier between the ground circuit and 12v wire.





I'll add in a 30 amp relay to switch the ignition side on, but here is the completed conversion. Now the top 6 fuses are constant 12v and the lower 6 fuses are switched 12v ignition sources.





I test fit it on the glove box panel that I made and it will be a perfect fit. Next step is pulling that panel out one more time to fit this fuse panel for installation and then paint. Once that is finalized, I should be pretty close to firing off the engine with the new ECU.

Cheers,
Ryan

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New project: 1968 Camaro LS6, T56, Speedtech, Hotchkis, DSE, Z51 13.4" front brakes, LS1 rear disks, etc.
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #839 on: April 04, 2020, 07:42:03 AM »
That looks great

I like the new panel idea and it gives me more ideas of my own...like I don't have enough of those...lol

Headliner looks good and the panels turned out great also!!
Charlie

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #839 on: April 04, 2020, 07:42:03 AM »
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