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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #680 on: March 29, 2019, 01:39:36 PM »
Wow! That is awesome work. What a beautiful house!
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #681 on: March 29, 2019, 01:50:35 PM »
Ryan, As a contractor I give my seal of approval, LOL. You did a great job. Drywall is the same doing body work, only with drywall you work hard to keep things straight, and with cars you work hard to keep things curved!
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #682 on: March 30, 2019, 10:34:28 AM »
Great job! Outstanding work!
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #683 on: April 01, 2019, 01:43:22 PM »
Thanks for all of the compliments guys! I didn't think there would be much interest in my construction, but wanted to give an excuse for why there haven't been any car updates.  :cool:

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #684 on: April 06, 2019, 09:46:55 PM »
Nice work Ryan.  That's a lot of drywall to finish...One of my least favorite things!
Looks great, I hope the little ones(and the rest of the family) enjoy it.
Now...back to the important stuff...;-)
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #684 on: April 06, 2019, 09:46:55 PM »

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #685 on: April 07, 2019, 01:35:55 PM »
House work looks good man.  All necessary to get back on track with the car.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #686 on: April 08, 2019, 07:41:34 AM »
It's been a long time since I've been able to have a solid Penny Pincher update, so it feels great to have a decent update again. I'm finally done with the upstairs room project, and also had to tie up some other loose ends. I've been taking a few hours after work for the last week to try and knock out some of the springtime raking, trimming, and maintenance outside of the house so I'm nearly done with that until the grass starts growing.

Next big item was helping my dad get his 1971 Chevelle going again. Over the last 2.5 years he's done some major modifications to his car, such as a 496 stroker (Dart block, aluminum heads, roller cam, and etc) and TKO 600 swap (dual friction clutch, hydraulic TOB, and etc), but he's never had it running quite right. As I was cruising the classifieds here on TAC (Thanks jonathonar89)I saw a posting for a Holley Terminator Harness and it got my wheels turning that maybe I'd mention it to him since I've been telling him to go with an EFI kit since he built the motor. Well after some back and forth we ended up buying his whole kit, which included the whole Terminator kit and an adjustable fuel reg, and some other upgrades. He ended up going with the notched Tanks Inc, tank, upgraded to Walbro 255, Teflon fuel lines and all AN fittings. He's been installing the hardware over the last few weeks and I came over Saturday afternoon to do the wiring install. We temporarily installed the the harness and ECU to confirm that it was all fully functional before he did a final installation just to be safe.

After a few troubleshooting issues which ended up being my fault, we finally turned the key and got it running! One of the issues that I figured out, but I'm not quite understanding is that the fuel pressure to the rails. When we got it up and running, we found that the fuel pressure was at 58 psi so I lowered it to the recommended 43 psi per the instructions. Well when we finally got it running the car didn't want to idle below about 1300 rpms. I tried adjusting just about every parameter in the system from timing to fuel to IAC. When the idle would get to about 1100 the fueling would fall on it's face and the AFR would shoot to 25, ramp to 36 and the it would stall. above 1300 it would level right off and AFR would be right near the target command. What ended up fixing out idling problem was when I bumped the FPR back to 58 psi, and then it was golden. AFR was where we commanded it, idle was right at target and overall ran great! He was discouraged at first since it was running much worse than it did before we took the carb off. But after that FPR change, he was stoked. He drove the wheels off of it yesterday even though the ECU was ziptied to the cowl, no hood and none of that mattered.



I drove it and it really is a whole other animal. I was giving it about 3/4 to 7/8 throttle and right before I was about to shift from 2 to 3 it broke the wheels loose around 50! I wasn't expecting that and my dad asked me what that was because he thought we broke something. I looked at him and said, "That was horsepower!" haha. He's thrilled that it's finally running the way that he was expecting when he build the motor 2 years ago. I'm happy because he's going to be driving it now! He'e going to buy a small cap HEI distributor this week so that the ECU will control the timing. I think that will allow the engine to run that much better. He's going to button up the wiring and distributor install over the next few weeks and if everything goes right, my car will be finishing up at that time as well.

His update is probably more exciting than mine, but here goes. I'll start off with some parts updates that I've been collecting for the last few months. I ended up taking advantage of the
Summit bucks I had and bought weatherstripping for the doors, trunk and quarter windows. Unfortunately the quarter window seals are back-ordered and won't arrive until sometime in May. I still have my old one's but they have seen better days.





Brake clevis parts for the LS1 rear e-brake levers. They will need modifications to work right, but are a better start than the brackets I made.



Much needed matched door lock kit. I got the seals from the paint seal kit I bought earlier so I'm good there too.



When I was at the pick and pull earlier this year a roached out 1971 Firebird donated this dimmer switch. I looked that thing all over and couldn't find one good part on it. Even the '71 only fender vents were broken.



I'm not sure if I'll use it on this project or another, but the guy that bought my old 2003 Silverado was in the process of parting out a 2002 Escalade and he gave me a bunch of parts that he wasn't going to use. I ended up grabbing a bunch of parts, but he knew that the harness was worth money. I paid him $100 bucks and got the complete harness, throttle body, ECU, Pedal, TAC module, and the ECU bracket. Not sure if I want to mess with DBW, but if I do I have the parts now.



I needed to finish up installing the clutch boot install before I could continue on with the FatMat installation. I cut some panels out of .050 aluminum plates and found a nice little clutch boot from a... gulp... 67 Mustang. It had a nice small diameter hole and would fit nicely around the two piece bracket I made.









It still needs a little trimming, but fits great. I'll add some paint and adhesive seals to the back side and it will be all done.



Then I installed a few sections of the FatMat and had to call it quiets for the day. The rest of the FatMat should go quick and then I an put my carpet down. I've been looking forward to that for a while now. Felt good to work on the car again.

Cheers,
Ryan

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #687 on: April 08, 2019, 01:00:13 PM »
Tells us about big block manual Chevelle, shows us no pictures.  Wow, I see how it is! :lol:

As far as DBW goes I'd pass, even if you get it to respond more like a throttle cabled pedal it'll never feel like one.  I just can't get used to them and how they feel, sadly I think I've played on video game wheel and pedal controllers where the throttle felt better than what was actually in the cars being driven...  Though if you can get past that I'm sure they have their advantages performance wise, since you don't have to rely on feel(of the motor) to get the optimum throttle opening for acceleration but the trade off there is not having the pedal feel for rev matching.  Then again I guess with these newer cars that have automatic rev matching that'd cease to be a problem...

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #688 on: April 10, 2019, 05:46:49 AM »
Box, glad to see you're back! I got a pretty good deal on the whole DBW swap since I got everything for what people usually pay for just the computer. Not sure if I'll run it or not, but who knows what the future will bring. I like the idea of swapping over to this ECU and possibly doing the FlexFuel swap as well and the harness can be wired up to drive the 90mm LS2 throttlebody as well. I like having options haha.

I know, I'll have to snap some pictures. I can tell you this much, we have actually never had our cars up and running at the same time, so we're going to be driving the wheels off of them. I think were also going to have to see who's car really is faster too.  8) There's a local 1/8 mile drag strip about 20 mins from us that has a test and tune on Friday nights, so I think we're going to have to hit that up.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #689 on: April 10, 2019, 07:17:30 AM »
I got out and installed the rest of the FatMat, so that I could finally see what my carpet looks like. Very pleased with how easy the FatMat is to install and I'm sure that it's going to help with the noise levels.





And just add some carpet! I opted for the one piece design rather than the stock 2 piece as I think it's a little cleaner looking.







One other final touch I finally received was a filter for my CAI. The one that came with the truck was huge and wouldn't fit into the space I needed. This one fits perfectly. I just need to make a little bracket to hold up the tubing and it'll be all set.



Getting closer, can't wait.

Ryan

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #690 on: April 10, 2019, 12:25:32 PM »
1 step at a time!  Good stuff man!

Glad to hear the Terminator kit helped out your dad.  Always enjoy hearing good news and updates.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #691 on: April 10, 2019, 03:34:04 PM »
Options are good.  Should be fun seeing whose car is faster, if anything it'll probably come down to more of a driver's race.

So you're trying to say instead of just using a cable tie around the intake tube and the brace between the fender and core support you're going to fabricate a bracket?  Gah, make things difficult. :lol:

OOOH, you should fabricate a heat shield/box for the filter.  Then you can support it and keep hot air away from it all in one.
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #692 on: April 11, 2019, 05:58:52 AM »
Thanks Jonathan.

Box, you kinda read my mind. The intake tube came from a cheap eBay CAI meant for a 99-06 Silverado and it did come with a heat shield. I was wondering how difficult it would be to modify it to work in my car. I'm going to try and make it work, but it may not be right away. Heck, I want to drive this thing!

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #693 on: April 11, 2019, 06:44:49 AM »
Same here. I think I'm going to try to find some aluminum and fab up and air box. The other thought was to make one out of fiberglass.
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #694 on: April 11, 2019, 07:00:57 AM »
I don't have many pictures of his car, but this is the few pictures that he's sent me so far. Here's the kit before we installed.





He opted for a Tanks, Inc. fuel tank that had notched corners and also upgraded to the Walbro 255 pump.



The beast, 496 Stroker BBC.







His car has this fantastic Patina on it, but there is no rust on the car. He keeps saying that he wants to paint it, but I keep telling him not to touch it. Patina is in right now and there are guys that would kill for that on their car. I'll try and get some pictures of the car next time I'm over at my parent's house.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #694 on: April 11, 2019, 07:00:57 AM »



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« Reply #695 on: April 11, 2019, 02:07:59 PM »
I'm too inclined to say keep the paint as is if there's no cancerous rust, though surface rust would be ok.  For one you're taking away time that can be spent finally driving it, and two it kinda keeps it a sleeper with the old paint.  As much as a '71 Chevelle with a big block can be anyway.  Plus that's money that could be spent on performance parts, that or some Vintage Air since I don't think many Chevelles came with A/C.  A/C is life.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #696 on: April 29, 2019, 06:53:36 AM »
I've been able to carve a few minutes over the last few weeks to get things done, but now have enough to make a good post. One of the projects on my list was to drop the tank and get my fuel level sender fixed. I pulled the tank and determined that the "new" sender that I bought at a swap meet a few years ago had burned out, which now makes sense why I couldn't get a reading from it. So what I decided to do was use the stock LS3 sender that came on my fuel pump assembly. I had to make a new float and lever in order to make it read correctly. That meant bending a rod to accommodate both low and high readings which was actually a lot harder than it sounds. I messed with it for several hours before I could get it where I was happy.

Pulled the tank and fuel pump assembly ready to swap in the old sender.



Here is what the stock float and lever looked like.



I found a coat hanger that was the right diameter and I bent my own new lever and used the float from the burnt out switch.





I then added the wires back into the pigtail since I was using the stock sender again.



The sending unit swap is all done now, but one of the challenges that I came across is that the sending unit from the LS3 is 258/E and 42/F but the closest preset for my Dakota Digital gauges is 240-33 so it will just have to work for now. When I have some time I'll work through the custom setting to calibrate the gauge, but it requires the car to be empty and then fill in 1/3 tank increments taking calibrations at each. But for now it works, but it'll just be off.



I cleaned up and painted the bumper brackets a while ago, so that I can finally install my rear bumper. I ended up cleaning all of the old over spray off of my bumper with some lacquer thinner and steel wool. It's certainly not perfect, but the bumper came out really good considering it's a 50 year old piece. I also thew on the marker lights with new bezels.







I've also been working on getting the last of my wiring buttoned up. I needed to finish up the fuse panel for the few relays I needed to add. I need a relay for both my fan and horn. I'm using a Bussman unit with the micro fuse and relays to take up the least amount of real estate. I'm pretty happy with how neat and clean they look. I'll have room for future projects as well. It will sit down low on the driver's side fender well next to the marker light.







Next up is some parts updates. I have been on the search for a new passenger side A pillar trim as the one I have has seen better days. I found a guy who sold me a complete front window set brand new in the box for a 1/3 of the price of new! Win.



This past weekend was my annual trip to the Sping Carlisle car show and swap meet with my dad. We saw a lot of cool stuff and I scored a few good used parts and picked up some new parts as well.







Inch/lb. torque wrench.



Mesh split wire loom.





I thew some on quick to see what it looked like and I can't wait to install the rest.



Probably one of the coolest parts of the trip was when I stopped by the Miller Welding tent. They had a demonstration of the new Miller 220 welder, and they had demos set up so I asked the guy if I could try. He was very accommodating and basically gave me a 101 course on Tig welding. He let me run a bead of both steel and aluminum. It's way different than MIG welding, but was a lot of fun. He said that I did really well for the first time and I only dipped the tip one time. Here's my attempt at aluminum, I didn't think it was too bad for the first try.



Thought this was a pretty cool car since my car is called the "Penny Pincher Camaro". This was called the Penny Corvette and you'll see why if you look closely.





Also saw this wicked diesel truck.





I'm hoping to button up this car very soon and put some real road miles on it.

Thanks,
Ryan

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #697 on: April 29, 2019, 07:04:14 AM »
Glad you were able to score some parts. Sorry our paths did not connect, it would've been nice to finally meet you. Maybe next year. I saw that vette and the first thing I thought of was you (project penny pincher!) lol. They had it loaded up on a truck though, so I didn't get to look too close. I wonder how much weight was added to that car.
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #698 on: April 29, 2019, 07:55:32 AM »
What a way to ruin a vette....

The bumper looks great! Crazy all the work that went into fixing the sending unit and no visual improvement to the car but it had to be done.

Nice job on your first attempt at TIG welding aluminum.  It has to be my favorite metel to TIG weld. Did you bring home a TIG welder? LOL.
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #699 on: April 29, 2019, 01:46:07 PM »
Bumper looks good to me from the pictures, definitely nice enough for something you're going to drive anyway.

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« Reply #700 on: May 03, 2019, 07:48:10 AM »
I've been plugging away at the finishing up the wiring in the engine bay. I bought a ratcheting crimper on eBay a while back and it does a great job on the Metri-Pack 280 terminals that the Bussman box takes. Something very satisfying about wiring and I really like using the correct terminals and connectors.





Tucked away nicely in the fender well.



Next up was building a mount for for the CAI. I bought a cheap kit on eBay a while back for a 99-06 Silverado basically for the intake tube and it fits really nicely in the engine bay. I used the tab that was welded on it and built a simple L bracket that attaches to my fan shroud with some button head bolts. The aluminum was thick enough that I tapped it for a 5/16 - 18 thread so I could use the stock bolts I've used in the whole engine bay.



Turned out great and was pretty simple to do.



I also picked up a horn from my local Pick a Part from a 1975 Malibu Wagon. I had to re-bend the tab on it, but otherwise fit just like stock. I need to clean it up and spray a little paint on it so it's not such an eye sore.



I'm hoping to get some more done this weekend and get it inspected sometime next week. The only things that need to be finished before the inspection are re-installing the seats, seat belts, hooking up the e-brake and fixing some tail light wiring issues.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #701 on: May 03, 2019, 09:44:27 AM »
Getting close and looking very nice.
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #702 on: May 03, 2019, 01:41:13 PM »
I can see you're a distinguished man of wealth and taste with such fine wiring.  Nothing drives me more insane than shoddy wiring jobs, makes me go insane.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #703 on: May 07, 2019, 06:18:36 AM »
Got the car inspected last night, so I'm fully legal and ready to rack up some healthy miles. :cool: I've been trying to be good about getting my rear end broke in, as the rear gears call for 4-5 20 minute drives to around 45 mph to allow the gears to properly mesh. I was able to do the last one yesterday after I filled up the gas tank.

As with any car that has been completely torn down and built back up, there are a bunch of things that need to be ironed out and I'll make a short list for my records. First is the front end alignment. I am not well versed in how too much of one measurement feels, but it feels to me like the car has too much camber or toe in. The car seems to want to dart back and forth, but the steering box is nice and tight.

Second is the car seems to surge under light acceleration. That is definitely a tuning issue and I think has something to do with my MAF and VE tables. I used a stock Z06 calibration for both and I think because of the headers and CAI, it is throwing them all off. I also seem to have a knock sensor code P327, but I think that may just be a faulty sensor.

Along the same vein as the surging, there is a very significant amount of fumes from the car. I think its a combination of the tune, no trunk seal, and I haven't seam sealed the wheel wells yet. I'm going to try and do the seam sealing and trunk seal before the weekend and see if that helps. If not I'm going to mess around with the tune more and see what the error logs bring up. I want to drive this thing to work and whenever I can and I certainly don't need to smell like a tail pipe whenever I drive it.

Lastly, I think that the good used rear rotors that I have aren't so good. I think they are both warped pretty badly as it makes a scraping sound while I'm driving. That needs to be taken care of ASAP as it is incredibly annoying. I'm going to order a set today drilled to match my fronts.

Overall, the car drives really well. The suspension is nice and tight front and rear. The car just flat out runs and it's hard to keep out of the throttle. It sounds really good and is so much fun to drive the 6 speed! Really without trying it will chirp the tires all the way through 3rd. I have yet to start the car from a stop without spinning the tires. The LS7 clutch is very grabby, and hopefully it will lessen up the more that I drive the car. I'm hoping to work the bugs out soon and get some cool cruising pictures to post up.

Cheers,
Ryan

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #704 on: May 07, 2019, 01:32:15 PM »
Woooo more or less done!  Just ironing out bugs at the moment.  As far as being darty could be a combination of camber and toe, generally more negative camber(to an extent) increases your grip(more so through turns) where as toe-in increases responsiveness(to and extent) and toe-out increases stability.  Generally in something with a solid axle you'll want about -.5º to -1º of negative camber up front, and with most RWD cars you'll want a twinge of toe in around 1/32" to 1/16" so then during acceleration the front wheels splay out neutral.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #705 on: May 08, 2019, 07:03:15 AM »
Thanks for the tips! I'm going to be attempting the alignment myself to try and see how close I can get it. I'm not going to put too much time into it, but I'll give it a shot.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #706 on: May 08, 2019, 11:59:00 AM »
Summit sell a home alignment tool. I bought one to do the 71 build and the shop commented on how close I got it at home.
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #707 on: May 08, 2019, 02:30:33 PM »
Thanks for the tips! I'm going to be attempting the alignment myself to try and see how close I can get it. I'm not going to put too much time into it, but I'll give it a shot.
Like Leigh said some of the home kits are pretty good, and at the least it'll get the car safe until you can make it to a shop with an advanced laser alignment machine and that's what really matters.  They're good to have if you're always modifying/adjusting the suspension, or just for when you need to replace a worn part.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #708 on: May 09, 2019, 06:16:24 AM »
I got a little time in the garage last night. I swapped over the 1968 RS tail light bezels I picked up at Carlisle. Definitely like the 1968 tail lights on there better than the 67's. The 67 RS remind me of the Eleanor Mustang, not good - not bad but the 68 is more unique.



Once that was done, I decided to mess around with my attempt at a DIY alignment. I read a few articles, and had some nice straight 30" pieces of angle aluminum and used those to make measurements for toe in/out. My initial measurements were toe out ~1/8". I then took measurements with aluminum placed it on both wheels vertically and used the Tremec Angle finder app I had on my phone to see what the camber was for each wheel. I got -1.2* on the passenger side and 0.1* on the driver's side. That makes sense now why the steering was so off. I added about 1/4" of shims on each stud on the driver's side and was able to match the -1.2* on the passenger side. Sweet! Now I brought the toe in to about 3/16* and we will see how that does. I'm assuming it will pull to one side or the other so I'll need to make adjustments and can get it closer to that 1/16 measurement.





After I mow the grass tonight, I'm going to run it up and down the road to see what it does. Hopefully that fixes the strange steering feel and I can move on to other things. I also downloaded some more stock tunes to compare with mine. I made some changes to my tune and I'm going to flash that to the car and see if that helps with the P327 code. I noticed there were some knock enable settings that were different in my tune vs. the stock ones. Keeping my fingers crossed that fixes it. If not I may have a bad sensor which means the intake is coming off. The wires aren't pinched, so basically that's the only other thing it could be.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #709 on: May 09, 2019, 09:46:18 AM »
Being able to do an approximate alignment at home is valuable.  I have always measured the tread about 4 inches up front and back for toe in.  I never thought of using angle brackets.

I purchased an align-o-matic years ago for this purpose.  It checks toe in and camber; I don't know how accurate it is.

I looked in the Play Store on my Samsung phone and found a Tremec Toolbox app.  Is that what you are using?

You car looks great and it is finally back to driving.  I bet you are really excited about that.  Working out the bugs is just another step and you will be driving it regularly.
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #710 on: May 09, 2019, 11:29:46 AM »
Yes, that is the one, Tremec Toolbox. It's got some other handy tools too.

Yes, I'm getting very anxious and driving my wife nuts. Now that it's on the road, I don't think she understands that there are a bunch of bugs that have to be worked out. It's stressing me out a little because I just want to drive it, but I certainly want to be safe for myself and everyone else on the road.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #711 on: May 09, 2019, 12:42:26 PM »
I like the '68 more too, the bezel helps break up an otherwise plain red rectangle.  I like the '69 most, but that's an entirely different tail panel I think.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #712 on: May 10, 2019, 09:01:33 AM »
I had to take some more detailed pictures for my car insurance, and thought I'd share some of the more finished pictures of my car and the engine bay.





The engine bay is nearly complete. Only thing left is to re-loom using the mesh loom I picked up at Spring Carlisle.







Here's the current state of the interior. Getting close.



I was comparing my tune to some other stock 01 Z06 tunes and noticed that mine was a little off, so I found another one and copied the VE and timing tables to see if that helped any. I was pleasantly surprised that the P327 code didn't come back last night when I was cruising around. Hopefully it stays off and I can check that off my list.

When I was out I was also curious how my DIY alignment worked, and I am happy to report that it just drives straight down the road now! I'm still not 100% happy though as there is a decent sized dead spot going straight down the road. From what I understand though this can be cured by adjusting the worm gear on the top of the gear box and that should tighten things up.

I need to get my speedometer calibrated so that I can actually know how fast I'm going, haha.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #713 on: May 10, 2019, 09:36:00 AM »
So nice!  You always do awesomely inspiring work!
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #714 on: May 10, 2019, 09:41:45 AM »
Looks great! Have you given the grandfather in law a ride yet?  :grin: :grin:
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #715 on: May 10, 2019, 10:57:02 AM »
Looks great! Have you given the grandfather in law a ride yet?  :grin: :grin:

I haven't, but he's top on the list of people to give a ride. I need to get a few seats in it soon before I give any rides. So far the only one who has had a ride is my son, who was just on my lap up and down the driveway.  :lol: I asked him how it was after we were up and down the driveway and his exact words were short and sweet, "Pretty good" and gave me the thumbs up.

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #716 on: May 10, 2019, 01:44:40 PM »
For what it's worth those GPS speedometer apps for smartphones work fairly well, sure they're a bit slow to respond in acceleration but they'll give you your cruising speed which is what really matters.  That or you can do math and figure out your mph depending on gear selected and engine rpm, either way speedometer is a luxury. :P

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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #717 on: May 10, 2019, 10:40:50 PM »
Wow! All I can say is that is very inspiring work. I love the way you make it all look like it is supposed to be there, meaning it looks better than a factory design. Great progress!
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #718 on: May 13, 2019, 07:43:59 AM »
I use the speedo app on my phone in my car and it works great, but it would be nice to have a working speedometer! Curious, what kind of insurance do you have? I have grundy with my 77 and am pretty sure the car has to be very close to stock. I am wondering what you have found regarding the swapped motor. I am still on the fence on which way to go with my TATA motor wise. On one hand I have the matching drive train, but after Toms drive to Tenn. I think I would like the idea of taking a nice weekend trip in a classic car with minimal worries.
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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #719 on: May 13, 2019, 08:16:57 AM »
I didn't get much time this weekend to work on the car as we had the first sunny day in what feels like weeks so the yard-work took priority. But what I did find out, I thought would be helpful to others that may be in a similar situation. When I first built my engine, I added an LS6 valley cover to clean up the PCV and because it was supposed to work better. But when I started running the car I noticed that there was a very high amount of vacuum in the crankcase. So much that I had a really difficult time pulling off the oil fill cap when the motor was running.

What I didn't realize is that there are two different types of the valley covers; one that has a PCV built in and one that doesn't have one. Mine was the lucky one that didn't have the PCV, so basically my connection from the valley cover to the manifold meant it was pulling full vacuum from the crankcase at idle. I found out that there is a stock hose that came on the 01-03 Z06 Vettes that has an external replaceable PCV which is just what I need, however it is $108 bucks the cheapest I could find it! That's more than just getting a new valley cover with the built-in PCV. Here's what I came up with:





Difficult to see, but I took a Dorman PCV rubber hose that I found at AutoZone that had the same diameter fitting as the LS6 valley cover and would allow me to put a stock LS PCV valve that typically sits in the valve cover. I tested it and it worked perfectly, no more vacuum in the Crank. I can get the part numbers shortly and will update this post. I think eventually I'll buy the 04+ valley cover with the PCV, but for now this solves my issue. I think this was what was giving me a slight surging condition under light throttle, because when I would give more throttle it would go away. Then when I was leaving AZ, I noticed there was a R32? Skyline. I'm sure many people will agree with me, but I've always loved the Skylines especially the R34 generation. Something so cool to me about being RHD.




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Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
« Reply #719 on: May 13, 2019, 08:16:57 AM »
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