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Re: 1981 TA SE LS-swap
« Reply #200 on: May 12, 2020, 12:16:27 PM »
Assuming you are canadian, yeah I saw Canada uses the metric system the one time i visited. Liters! Made me feel like I was back in sweden almost.

Yup

Northern Ontario

Come for an extended visit in the winter to give you that at home feeling!!!

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sensei451

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Re: 1981 TA SE LS-swap
« Reply #201 on: May 15, 2020, 06:10:13 PM »
New snowflakes and 255 60R15 rubber arrived, so I had my local shop put it together and good to go. I did get the chrome, fancy valve stems as well.



Tried to wipe of the blue factory protective coating without much luck, what is the magic trick?

The 255's really add a lot of presence to the car. I like the original 225's too, but its more for the sleek, elegant look. This is more muscle:





And here is the front as we speak. On Wednesday I have an appointment to put the softer springs on and do an alignment:



But there was an issue. The 255 rears rub the exhaust, so I'll be taking a trip back to exhaust shop to get that fixed. I had to put the old rears back to drive the car. To ease the feeling of defeat I burned as much rubber as possible with the old setup on a deserted road before heading back.

Car runs amazingly well. I mean knock on wood and all that, but I'm blown away how perfect this car drives now.

Guys, TGIF and enjoy the weekend!

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Re: 1981 TA SE LS-swap
« Reply #202 on: May 15, 2020, 07:16:46 PM »
Try some good ole fashioned Comet, and a stiff brush. Should clean the blue right off. Thats what we used to use to keep the letters and white walls nice and white.
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Re: 1981 TA SE LS-swap
« Reply #203 on: May 15, 2020, 08:59:08 PM »
I used a spring compressor.

sensei451

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Re: 1981 TA SE LS-swap
« Reply #204 on: May 16, 2020, 09:16:13 AM »
I used a spring compressor.

Oh well, I'll be outsourcing that particular job. If you look at the pictures above, do you think we should cut the spring right off the bat or will it lower a little without cutting?

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Re: 1981 TA SE LS-swap
« Reply #205 on: May 16, 2020, 05:08:45 PM »
I cut half a loop off - height was where I wish.

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Re: 1981 TA SE LS-swap
« Reply #206 on: May 17, 2020, 05:27:10 PM »
The car is meant for date nights rather than track use, so consequently, the first intended use,  date night use was last night.

As the night was ending, we headed back from dinner and I found myself at first position at a traffic light. Great.. there is no way I can help myself from creating two perfect dark lines with the LS1 in this main road. Said and done, but just as I was flooring it, I saw the sheriff painted car opposite.. but it was too late. I was literally sideways hitting second gear. He lit it up and stopped me.

I held out my license in defeat but the officer's first words were complimenting the hood decal and what not, so I immediately felt I had a shot getting away with the whole thing.. A few moments later I was left with a warning that I was creating "enough attention" as it was, so.. I said thanks and good night and that was it.

I love this trans am.

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Re: 1981 TA SE LS-swap
« Reply #207 on: May 19, 2020, 06:49:38 AM »
Very lucky!

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New project: 1968 Camaro LS6, T56, Speedtech, Hotchkis, DSE, Z51 13.4" front brakes, LS1 rear disks, etc.
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Re: 1981 TA SE LS-swap
« Reply #208 on: May 19, 2020, 04:01:17 PM »
Sounds like you got a free pass, may not be so lucky next time  :D, My guess if you were in a modern car, Challenger, Mustang, etc. you would have been making a donation to the county!
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Re: 1981 TA SE LS-swap
« Reply #209 on: May 21, 2020, 10:56:10 PM »
Glad to hear you're getting some enjoyment out of the car. 
Great story about the cops warning.   Funny how things change, in the late 80'/early 90's I suspect you would've had a different experience.  At that was my impression...cops didn't really like these cars back then!

I hope you get many, many more date nights in the future. Maybe you can talk the wife into checking to see if you can both still fit in the back seat? ;-p
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Re: 1981 TA SE LS-swap
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Re: 1981 TA SE LS-swap
« Reply #210 on: May 23, 2020, 06:37:36 PM »
Glad to hear you're getting some enjoyment out of the car. 
Great story about the cops warning.   Funny how things change, in the late 80'/early 90's I suspect you would've had a different experience.  At that was my impression...cops didn't really like these cars back then!

I hope you get many, many more date nights in the future. Maybe you can talk the wife into checking to see if you can both still fit in the back seat? ;-p

Thanks my friend, I said it before and well the car is just freaking perfect now. Runs great, smooth, no drama unless you put the pedal to the metal or however that goes. If this success continues there is a chance that the back seat can come to use  8-)

Anyhow, update on front suspension -- i have the link for the new springs in previous messages and the other day they were cut according to scarebirds specification and mounted. It turned out good:





So thanks to scarebird, and to the wonderful folks at Emmitt's Auto Repair who took on the challange of replacing springs and refreshing the front  suspension in general. I think I ended up with new bushings and shocks and whatever else.

If your're local JAX, check out Emmitts, their reputation pretty much speaks for itself: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Emmitt's+Auto+Repair+Inc/@30.0303266,-81.711151,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x88e5da61357f83af:0xd1dfdfa0fb4cdbe3!8m2!3d30.030322!4d-81.708957

So, to recap exactly one half loop was cut from the morosos.

With the front sorted 100%, I may actually put a smaller lowering block on the rear, we'll see.

Next big thing for the project is sending the ECU to tuning-wizard Ryan for adjusting fan temps. I am going to miss driving during the downtime. I got something that will help though:

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Re: 1981 TA SE LS-swap
« Reply #211 on: May 24, 2020, 12:16:40 PM »
Glad to help - the stance looks perfect!  Ride should be pleasant too!

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Re: 1981 TA SE LS-swap
« Reply #212 on: May 24, 2020, 04:09:04 PM »
Glad to help - the stance looks perfect!  Ride should be pleasant too!

Thanks again, great advice. No complaints about the ride, feels legit, not too much of anything. Whole car is perfect at the moment, knock on wood.

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« Reply #213 on: May 27, 2020, 08:25:09 PM »
At this time, the ECU is on the way to Ryeguy. I have timed the downtime of the car rather well, work is crazy and on top of that its constantly raining this week.

The plan is to adjust the fan temps, to recap I observed 175-182 while cruising with fans disconnected, so the car wants to run quite cool on it's own so to speak.

I originally suggested low: on 195 off 193, high on 205 off 198 with nothing more than just gut feeling. Ryan suggested the more moderate low on 190 off 187, high  on 197 off 194.

Any thoughts? I read somewhere that one should try to avoid larger temperature swings. That would favor Ryans settings, and unless there are other insights, thats probably what we'll go with.

Actually come to think of it, why not let high run a bit more aggressive?

Low on 191, off 188 <-- I don't mind if fan goes on/off frequently during idling.
High on 196 off 192

Could that be a winner?


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Re: 1981 TA SE LS-swap
« Reply #214 on: May 28, 2020, 07:40:58 AM »
At this time, the ECU is on the way to Ryeguy. I have timed the downtime of the car rather well, work is crazy and on top of that its constantly raining this week.

The plan is to adjust the fan temps, to recap I observed 175-182 while cruising with fans disconnected, so the car wants to run quite cool on it's own so to speak.

I originally suggested low: on 195 off 193, high on 205 off 198 with nothing more than just gut feeling. Ryan suggested the more moderate low on 190 off 187, high  on 197 off 194.

Any thoughts? I read somewhere that one should try to avoid larger temperature swings. That would favor Ryans settings, and unless there are other insights, thats probably what we'll go with.

Actually come to think of it, why not let high run a bit more aggressive?

Low on 191, off 188 <-- I don't mind if fan goes on/off frequently during idling.
High on 196 off 192


Could that be a winner?

I think that's a great setting if you are fine with it. Even on a hot day if the car is running at 185, it'll probably take a minute or so to get to 191 so from stop light to stop light it may only kick on a few times. I vote Yes, but would be curious to know the other's thoughts.

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My Build: http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=24465.0

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http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=74591.0

Re: 1981 TA SE LS-swap
« Reply #214 on: May 28, 2020, 07:40:58 AM »


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Re: 1981 TA SE LS-swap
« Reply #215 on: June 02, 2020, 02:08:03 PM »
If anybody needs a 301T motor for spares etc, I have added a donation ad over at 301 garage. Not sure linking to other forums is appreciated, but should be easy to find.

Also selling the BOP 350C with lockup.

Re: 1981 TA SE LS-swap
« Reply #215 on: June 02, 2020, 02:08:03 PM »
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