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Nexus

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Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #360 on: September 03, 2018, 08:30:50 AM »
Extreme TKO Review
I am totally happy with my decision to go with the TKO.  It is only about 15 pounds heavier than the super T10 and shifter, but will handle a serious 455 build should I decide to do that.  It fits perfectly in the car and in the console.  I have driven the car now 5 times since the install including a 40 mile run yesterday.  The transmission and really the whole car is running perfectly.  The only problem I had is the drivers side visor has started to fall.

I wouldn't say it shifts like butter, but it shifts easily and predictably.  The gearing is absolutely a perfect match for the 3.23, I wouldn't want anything else.  You can shift into 5th at 45 mph and the engine is totally happy to cruise along at 1250 rpm.  On the freeway at 70 mph it is about 1850 rpm.

The first two gears are deeper than the ST10 and you can definitely feel it.  I think there could be some rubber burned in first gear if my foot was to accidently slip off the clutch!  The car should be faster in the 1/4 mile, yet I have a true overdrive for cruising.

I am going to fill up and take the mileage.  It should be great as the first 500 miles are go easy on the clutch.  It just seemed during my cruise yesterday, mostly highway, that the needle hardly budged.

You know I was thinking during my cruise that the transmission is really the last piece of the puzzle for the car absolutely needing fixes.  All the rest is wants or nice to haves, but really all systems are working well.  Awesome!

Dude, I'm excited for you!!!!

This is awesome news!!!

Just a small request...if you can manage...maybe....possibly a sound bite for us?   :D :D :D

Charlie

79 Esprit but like many, it will be a T/A clone
(18 years and counting but still have her)

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Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #361 on: September 25, 2018, 07:29:54 AM »
I am always working on it so no sound bite for now. The sound of the Borla XS Pros is noticeable anytime you get into the throttle and they definitely make it feel like a performance car.  No drone at cruise, though.

Rear Window Trim and Decals
I had both the front and rear window trims powder coated to eliminate peeling and chipping paint. Some of clips lacked clearance from the glass and were tough to get on.  Also one stud broke and needed a sheet metal screw as well as the top center which came that way.

TATA's are two tone paint so I had to stripe the color dividing line.  Lots of glue on the premask, but I was able to peel it off.  I put most of the decals on dry so I layed out the location with tape(see pic).  The left went on fine, but the right crinkled as I made the sharp curve for the window.  My only option was to pick it all up and retry.  This got the crinkle out but ended up stretching the stripe (see pic).  I may have to redo it.


Broken Stud



Stripe Layout



Side View


Top Angle View


Stretched Stripe
1979 TATA Extreme TKO .64
Hedman elite; Pypes 2.5; Borla XS; MSD 6A; Edelbrock intake; open scoop; modified Q-jet; Powermaster 150; 4 core radiator/Mark VIII fan; RobbMc mini starter; subframe connectors; solid body mounts; fiberglass rear springs; poly sway bar and link bushings; 81 master; D52’s; Blazer disks; 225/60 & 235/60 17's TrueContact's; relays for PW, PDL, lights; keyless entry

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Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #362 on: September 25, 2018, 08:13:28 AM »
Looks really nice Bob, im assuming you had no problem with fitment after powdercoating the trim. Some have said it goes on too thick and makes it hard to clip. I used epoxy on my 77 but would like to powder coat the next time. Also, im not seeing the problem with the stripe. Im sure its one of those things that you focus on but from the pics it looks fine. FWIW when I did mine I had the same problem with a couple, I made a relief cut with a single edge razor and it layed down nicely.
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

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Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #363 on: September 25, 2018, 01:52:57 PM »
The powder coating did not interfere with installing the trim at all.  It was easier with a little pressure on the clips and a standard hook tool was better than the window trim tool.  The color match to the SEM trim paint on the T-Tops was perfect.

If you look at the red stripe closely, it is a little thinner than it should be.  Most would not notice.  A relief cut is a good idea; they will crinkle anytime you try to change the curvature.
1979 TATA Extreme TKO .64
Hedman elite; Pypes 2.5; Borla XS; MSD 6A; Edelbrock intake; open scoop; modified Q-jet; Powermaster 150; 4 core radiator/Mark VIII fan; RobbMc mini starter; subframe connectors; solid body mounts; fiberglass rear springs; poly sway bar and link bushings; 81 master; D52’s; Blazer disks; 225/60 & 235/60 17's TrueContact's; relays for PW, PDL, lights; keyless entry

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Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #364 on: October 12, 2018, 02:58:09 AM »
That looks sweet!!
Charlie

79 Esprit but like many, it will be a T/A clone
(18 years and counting but still have her)

Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #364 on: October 12, 2018, 02:58:09 AM »

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Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #365 on: October 13, 2018, 01:03:13 PM »
Thanks Charlie.  Looking back, I guess it is ok.

Future Planning
I am still not happy with the ride as it seems the front springs are too stiff.  I purchased the softer Moog 5298 springs but haven't gotten them in yet.  Also, my control arm bushings need replacing (39 years old) and the control arms are rusty.

I think my first project next year will be a front end rebuild with geometry corrected control arms, the softer springs and larger C6 front brakes.  The brakes will require new rims so I might as well go to 18's.
1979 TATA Extreme TKO .64
Hedman elite; Pypes 2.5; Borla XS; MSD 6A; Edelbrock intake; open scoop; modified Q-jet; Powermaster 150; 4 core radiator/Mark VIII fan; RobbMc mini starter; subframe connectors; solid body mounts; fiberglass rear springs; poly sway bar and link bushings; 81 master; D52’s; Blazer disks; 225/60 & 235/60 17's TrueContact's; relays for PW, PDL, lights; keyless entry

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Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #366 on: October 13, 2018, 08:06:22 PM »
As always, great work. The stripe looks fine to me.
79 Trans am 301 (work in progress) LS swap n progress
79 Formula 301 (Work in progress)
67 RS Camaro (Work in progress)
See the recurring theme???

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Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #367 on: December 23, 2018, 04:50:07 PM »
I have been working on the house a lot; but did a couple of small items.

Trunk Spring Position
The small trunk torsion rod broke about a year ago.  When I replaced it, I had the genious (?) idea of moving it to the second notch so it wouldn't pop up so hard.  Bad idea as it would not open at all.  Over time, this really started to bother me so off came the newly powder coated window trim and the trunk filler panel.  This was the most work as moving it up a notch was pretty easy with a vice grips.  I am hoping now it will go up without the Eddie Motorsports pneumatic lift support.
 
Additional Muffler Hangers
I have a Pypes exhaust system that is held together with band clamps.  It is easily taken apart which has been very valuable; most recently for the transmission project.  However, because of the long run from the headers to the front tailpipe hanger, it tends to sag in the middle due to the weight of the mufflers.
 
I have been looking for a way to add another hanger.  A search on PY came up with a solution from Skip Fix using back seat belt bolts as an additional attachment point.  It was pretty easy to implement using some old hanger parts I had.  I now have almost 6 inches of clearance from the mufflers to the ground.  I'll take another measurement after I drive it next spring.


Wrong Spring Position



Corrected Spring Position



Tail Pipe Hanger



Left Side Hanger



Right Side Hanger
1979 TATA Extreme TKO .64
Hedman elite; Pypes 2.5; Borla XS; MSD 6A; Edelbrock intake; open scoop; modified Q-jet; Powermaster 150; 4 core radiator/Mark VIII fan; RobbMc mini starter; subframe connectors; solid body mounts; fiberglass rear springs; poly sway bar and link bushings; 81 master; D52’s; Blazer disks; 225/60 & 235/60 17's TrueContact's; relays for PW, PDL, lights; keyless entry

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Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #368 on: December 23, 2018, 07:49:49 PM »
My only thought  is I hope the floor doesn't get too hot.
79 Trans am 301 (work in progress) LS swap n progress
79 Formula 301 (Work in progress)
67 RS Camaro (Work in progress)
See the recurring theme???

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Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #369 on: December 24, 2018, 09:22:21 AM »
I will be watching that.  Right now, there is a minimum of 3/8” clearance at one location, but the clearance is larger than that generally.

Merry Christmass to all on the forum!
1979 TATA Extreme TKO .64
Hedman elite; Pypes 2.5; Borla XS; MSD 6A; Edelbrock intake; open scoop; modified Q-jet; Powermaster 150; 4 core radiator/Mark VIII fan; RobbMc mini starter; subframe connectors; solid body mounts; fiberglass rear springs; poly sway bar and link bushings; 81 master; D52’s; Blazer disks; 225/60 & 235/60 17's TrueContact's; relays for PW, PDL, lights; keyless entry

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Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #370 on: December 29, 2018, 02:11:03 PM »
I will be watching that.  Right now, there is a minimum of 3/8” clearance at one location, but the clearance is larger than that generally.

Merry Christmass to all on the forum!

It would be an easy thing if needed to put a muffler blanket on it.  Just some cheap insulation really.

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Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #371 on: December 29, 2018, 02:21:14 PM »
Cool stuff...I love it
Charlie

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Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #372 on: March 18, 2019, 07:34:19 AM »
PM Sent
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

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Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #373 on: May 07, 2019, 01:17:45 PM »
Repaint Trunk Lid
Back in Minnesota, I decided to finish off the trunk lid repaint project.  I painted it at the end of 2018, but had a terrible time with the paint spray cans spitting droplets.  I just did the best I could and now it is time to wet sand and buff out the less than perfect job.

The wet sanding and buffing went fine, I am really getting use to this.  Here are the pics.  If you look close on the last, you can probably see the spots where the drops are.  This will probably be the first thing I redo when I get the new painting setup.


Wet Sanding Trunk



Trunk After Buffing



Trunk Lid Installed
1979 TATA Extreme TKO .64
Hedman elite; Pypes 2.5; Borla XS; MSD 6A; Edelbrock intake; open scoop; modified Q-jet; Powermaster 150; 4 core radiator/Mark VIII fan; RobbMc mini starter; subframe connectors; solid body mounts; fiberglass rear springs; poly sway bar and link bushings; 81 master; D52’s; Blazer disks; 225/60 & 235/60 17's TrueContact's; relays for PW, PDL, lights; keyless entry

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Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #374 on: May 16, 2019, 09:10:33 AM »
Radiator Fan Indicator Light
I put in a Lincoln Mark VIII electric radiator fan and custom control system in 2015.  Since then, I have always wondered how much the fan turns on in various temps and situations.  So this year, one item on the ToDo list was to install an indicator light to know when it comes on.

It seemed so simple to tap into the relay control circuit to run the light, but I was in for a big surprise.  The thermal switch that runs it is not perfect and always passes a certain amount of ground.  Not enough to turn on the fan, but enough to run a light!

So I had to use the relay high side which was more work.  I had to run a new wire to the relay which is located where the charcoal canister used to be.  Rather than going all the way around on the driver side, I drilled a new entrance through the firewall on the passenger side. 

Another surprise came when I pulled the relay to hook up the new wire and found the plug was melted. Obviously a spade connection was not good enough so I found a relay with bolt on connectors (see pic).

I drove the car after it was installed.  The outside temp was about 60.  The fan never came on while driving; only when stopped at lights!  This will probably change in the summer when it is warmer out.


Indicator Light With Bracket



Passenger Firewall Entry



Melted Relay Plug



New 200 Amp Relay



Fan Indicator Light On
1979 TATA Extreme TKO .64
Hedman elite; Pypes 2.5; Borla XS; MSD 6A; Edelbrock intake; open scoop; modified Q-jet; Powermaster 150; 4 core radiator/Mark VIII fan; RobbMc mini starter; subframe connectors; solid body mounts; fiberglass rear springs; poly sway bar and link bushings; 81 master; D52’s; Blazer disks; 225/60 & 235/60 17's TrueContact's; relays for PW, PDL, lights; keyless entry

Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #374 on: May 16, 2019, 09:10:33 AM »

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Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #375 on: May 16, 2019, 09:32:17 AM »
Would a resistor in line with the bulb have worked? I have a similar situation with the check engine light on my LS swap. The ECM controls the ground but there is enough there to make the LED CEL come on even when there are no codes.  I am going to try a few resistors and see if that helps.
79 Trans am 301 (work in progress) LS swap n progress
79 Formula 301 (Work in progress)
67 RS Camaro (Work in progress)
See the recurring theme???

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Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #376 on: May 16, 2019, 11:29:48 AM »
Possibly.  I already had the control wiring in the console because I put a hi/off/low manual fan on switch there.
1979 TATA Extreme TKO .64
Hedman elite; Pypes 2.5; Borla XS; MSD 6A; Edelbrock intake; open scoop; modified Q-jet; Powermaster 150; 4 core radiator/Mark VIII fan; RobbMc mini starter; subframe connectors; solid body mounts; fiberglass rear springs; poly sway bar and link bushings; 81 master; D52’s; Blazer disks; 225/60 & 235/60 17's TrueContact's; relays for PW, PDL, lights; keyless entry

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Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #377 on: May 17, 2019, 06:31:41 AM »
Thumbing through your pics.  The powder coating on the window trim is an awesome idea.
I'm gonna check for a local coater and maybe copy yours.
Your TATA is an outstanding build. The upgrades are well thought out and executed.
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Previous builds:
65 Galaxie sold
67 camaro RS sold
68 camaro RS sold
69 camaro sold
72 Nova SS
81 T/A 4 spd sold
86 IROC sold
88 Formula 350 sold
92 Z-28 sold
93 9C1 Caprice sold
94 Impala SS sold

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Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #378 on: May 20, 2019, 07:35:47 AM »
Bob, colours are:
 SEM 15183 Warm Grey - Light colour
 SEM 15393 Med Grey - Dark colour
Finished!
77 T/A - I will Call this one DONE!
79 TATA 4sp-Next Project?
79 TATA - Lost to Fire!
86 Grand Prix - Sold
85 T/A - Sold
85 Fiero - Sold
82 Firebird - Sold
'38-CZ 250
'39-BSA Gold Star
'49-Triumph 350
'52-Ariel Red Hunter
'66-BSA Lightning
'01-HD RoadKing

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Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #379 on: May 20, 2019, 04:57:25 PM »
Thanks, Kerry.  Answered my question in my own thread; that way I won't be able to forget it.   :D
1979 TATA Extreme TKO .64
Hedman elite; Pypes 2.5; Borla XS; MSD 6A; Edelbrock intake; open scoop; modified Q-jet; Powermaster 150; 4 core radiator/Mark VIII fan; RobbMc mini starter; subframe connectors; solid body mounts; fiberglass rear springs; poly sway bar and link bushings; 81 master; D52’s; Blazer disks; 225/60 & 235/60 17's TrueContact's; relays for PW, PDL, lights; keyless entry

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Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #380 on: May 21, 2019, 08:07:29 AM »
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The powder coating on the window trim is an awesome idea.

Even in the first couple of years from new, the factory paint on the trim started peeling.  I remember touching it up all the time.

The powder coating has a great satin finish and has been very durable.  It wasn't cheap at $200, but I am so glad i had it done.
1979 TATA Extreme TKO .64
Hedman elite; Pypes 2.5; Borla XS; MSD 6A; Edelbrock intake; open scoop; modified Q-jet; Powermaster 150; 4 core radiator/Mark VIII fan; RobbMc mini starter; subframe connectors; solid body mounts; fiberglass rear springs; poly sway bar and link bushings; 81 master; D52’s; Blazer disks; 225/60 & 235/60 17's TrueContact's; relays for PW, PDL, lights; keyless entry

Re: 79 TATA With 35,000 Miles Project
« Reply #380 on: May 21, 2019, 08:07:29 AM »
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