Author Topic: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd  (Read 9332 times)

Bayou_Flyer

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1160
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #80 on: November 26, 2017, 05:34:24 PM »
2 small projects took all afternoon! First was replacing the broken license plate light with new/used pieces...piece of cake! The second was changing the alt and ps belts...and that took a LOT longer to perform. The issue was whoever replaced the belts over a decade ago, before the car was parked under a tree, put the lock washer and two ships on the rear, lower PS bolt. That caused the pulley to not be aligned with the crank pulley. I had to disassemble the brackets to get to it...and of course I had to paint more of the engine block to cover the hideous Chevy orange. I put it all back together, and I realized left one of the shims! Disassemble, reassemble...crank her up and no more belt squeal and power steering feels nice and smooth!
1975 Formula 350/4spd
1979 TA, Blk/Carmine, W72 400/4spd, WS6
1971 Firebird, Red/Blk, 350/Auto
1977 TA, Goldenrod/Buckskin, W72 400/4spd

Bayou_Flyer

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1160
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #81 on: January 12, 2018, 04:53:00 PM »
Happy New Year.....belated of course!

Holidays once again had me away from work but too busy to really do much. When I wasnt busy, I scoured craigslist and really think I was VERY fortunate to find these babies....seller has a 75 TA and may be on here, but I took advice from numerous references to “if you find these, you better buy them”. They look great with some repair work done on the backside.



If they seem like they need mkre work down the road, I have a few ideas to reinforce the backside. SO happy to find these!
1975 Formula 350/4spd
1979 TA, Blk/Carmine, W72 400/4spd, WS6
1971 Firebird, Red/Blk, 350/Auto
1977 TA, Goldenrod/Buckskin, W72 400/4spd

mz-formula

  • Active Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 751
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #82 on: January 12, 2018, 06:49:06 PM »
Those bumper guards are super tough and a one year only part.  Yours are awesome! Congrats!

FormTA

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2885
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #83 on: January 12, 2018, 07:15:26 PM »
Nice find. Gotta love finding that elusive piece you've be after. I'm sure you felt the same way I did when I found my hood trim piece. I had been after one for years and found a near perfect one. Supper excited, I'm sure.
79 Trans am 301 (work in progress) LS swap n progress
79 Formula 301 (Work in progress)
67 RS Camaro (Work in progress)
See the recurring theme???

Bayou_Flyer

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1160
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #84 on: January 12, 2018, 08:43:33 PM »
Yeah, they were in a craigslist ad for a complete 75 bumper....was selling these with it. I sent an email to ask if they could be sold separately, and it all worked out. I didn’t think I would ever find a pair at a reasonable price, so I wasn’t about to let these slip away!
1975 Formula 350/4spd
1979 TA, Blk/Carmine, W72 400/4spd, WS6
1971 Firebird, Red/Blk, 350/Auto
1977 TA, Goldenrod/Buckskin, W72 400/4spd

Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #84 on: January 12, 2018, 08:43:33 PM »

Bayou_Flyer

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1160
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #85 on: March 18, 2018, 08:43:58 AM »
Yardbird progress has been super slow for a multitude of reasons, work trips, family, etc.

I have been unable to get the car to start (battery tender was a good investment!), so I am thinking (hoping) the fuel pump gave out with those few gallons of ethanol fuel. It sat for over a decade before I got it. It does fire when fuel is added directly to the carb.

Once running again, I need to readjust the clutch linkage because the clutch pedal travel was adjusted by my mechanic with very little travel. The new throw out bearing sounds like it is under constant pressure. I also discovered my mechanic didn’t install the clutch return spring under the car.

My good friend happens to have a full set of deluxe red seat cover front/rear. He is willing to trade for the formula steering wheel Assembly I have on the shelf. I happen to like red interiors, and I recently saw a pic of an early bird with black interior and red seats that I like. My driver cover is dry, brittle and torn....could be a nice temp fix since I have plenty of hog rings and the experience to do the job.

He also has a set of honeycomb wheels he is willing to trade for a free set of snowflakes that I got. I am mostly excited about this since I have been wanting to refinish a set and have these on my car for awhile now!
1975 Formula 350/4spd
1979 TA, Blk/Carmine, W72 400/4spd, WS6
1971 Firebird, Red/Blk, 350/Auto
1977 TA, Goldenrod/Buckskin, W72 400/4spd

Bayou_Flyer

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1160
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #86 on: March 29, 2018, 10:50:05 AM »
Missed out in a set of W72 valve covers, so I decided to play around with the originals that had three different layers of paint on them. Anyway, after stripping and painting, I think this’ll be a good short term solution:

1975 Formula 350/4spd
1979 TA, Blk/Carmine, W72 400/4spd, WS6
1971 Firebird, Red/Blk, 350/Auto
1977 TA, Goldenrod/Buckskin, W72 400/4spd

Jack

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 10213
  • 1971 Esprit TA Clone W72 1972 Formula 68 350 HO
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #87 on: March 29, 2018, 03:15:51 PM »
Good to see you working on the car and posting, I like the new avatar.




Regards, Jack

Bayou_Flyer

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1160
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #88 on: March 30, 2018, 06:26:56 PM »
Thanks Jack!
1975 Formula 350/4spd
1979 TA, Blk/Carmine, W72 400/4spd, WS6
1971 Firebird, Red/Blk, 350/Auto
1977 TA, Goldenrod/Buckskin, W72 400/4spd

Bayou_Flyer

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1160
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #89 on: June 23, 2018, 02:20:07 PM »
Between work,family, and it being hotter than satan’s nether region, progress has been set aside. That said, in a rare moment of personal freedom I decided to give the yardbird some attention. That battery tender was THE best investment!

The car has refused to start, and I have been wondering if the fuel pump had given up the ghost. I disconnected the line from the carb and put it into a bottle. After several attempts...zip, zero, nada. While in there, I also changed the carb fuel filter and spring. BOY was that filter nasty. It was dry, brittle, and full of dried, old fuel. I am surprised I was able to drive it after the be.ts were changed!

I decided to prime the line with fresh fuel and reconnected. It fired and died three time, but the fourth start brought the 350P to life! I let her come up to temp, gave ‘er a few light revs, and put the filter back on. NOW I can get the car up onto ramps to adjust the clutch and hook up the reverse linkage to the trans.
1975 Formula 350/4spd
1979 TA, Blk/Carmine, W72 400/4spd, WS6
1971 Firebird, Red/Blk, 350/Auto
1977 TA, Goldenrod/Buckskin, W72 400/4spd

Bayou_Flyer

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1160
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #90 on: June 23, 2018, 02:22:14 PM »
Oh...I also found a pair of fender to core support braces I purchased a while back and put those on as well. My wife will be thrilled that 2boxes are now in the trash!  :P

Another thing I found....my sagging headliner was actually glued to the metal and has no board...one more item for the wish list I guess
« Last Edit: June 23, 2018, 02:24:22 PM by Bayou_Flyer »
1975 Formula 350/4spd
1979 TA, Blk/Carmine, W72 400/4spd, WS6
1971 Firebird, Red/Blk, 350/Auto
1977 TA, Goldenrod/Buckskin, W72 400/4spd

79merlin

  • Active Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 484
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #91 on: June 23, 2018, 08:26:08 PM »
Just found this build, and read the whole thing. Great project. I know what you mean about hot as hades. I live in Houston and I have to get my garage time in first thing in the morning. Its still hot, but a little less miserable. Keep up the great work.


Todd

Bayou_Flyer

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1160
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #92 on: July 04, 2018, 03:26:13 PM »
Well, Happy Independence Day to you patriots out there...Happy 4th to you other, glorious Pontiac enthusiasts around the world! Today was a but of a surprise for me (much like the Declaration of Independence was to the ???????? Crown ????).

A 2 hour drive to pick up one small part turned into three decent acquisitions for the Yard Bird. When I bought the car, it came with a poorly installed cap over the dash. The original underneath just falls apart when lifting up the cover for a view. I find this seller not far from I bought the car, and I picked up this dash:



I figured I have to pull the dash to replace the wiring harness, so I will just put this one in as-is for now. It came out of a 74 formula being parted out.
1975 Formula 350/4spd
1979 TA, Blk/Carmine, W72 400/4spd, WS6
1971 Firebird, Red/Blk, 350/Auto
1977 TA, Goldenrod/Buckskin, W72 400/4spd

Bayou_Flyer

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1160
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #93 on: July 04, 2018, 03:33:37 PM »
The guy has a ton of parts and can be found in the Pensacola craigslist. Really nice guy who is trying to clear out his extra stuff. While chatting with him, I mentioned needing a pull strap for one of my door...he had those and some used end caps, so I grabbed those too. I mentioned having to buy a pair of bumperettes for my 75, and he brings me into his yard and shows me a complete 74 bumper with EVERYTHING intact....including the one piece rub strip-license plate-bumperettes! All in all, got everything for a pair of Benjamins! I told him I would be back once I knock some itmes off the to-do list, but I recommend him as an honest enthusiast seller! Hoping to get aome work done this weekend!


1975 Formula 350/4spd
1979 TA, Blk/Carmine, W72 400/4spd, WS6
1971 Firebird, Red/Blk, 350/Auto
1977 TA, Goldenrod/Buckskin, W72 400/4spd

Jack

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 10213
  • 1971 Esprit TA Clone W72 1972 Formula 68 350 HO
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #94 on: July 04, 2018, 03:54:48 PM »
Good score, nice to find people like that BUT remember to keep the number.




Regards, Jack

Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #94 on: July 04, 2018, 03:54:48 PM »

Bayou_Flyer

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1160
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #95 on: July 11, 2018, 05:08:47 PM »
No major progress other than another craigslist score: two nice ashtrays and a rear view mirror on the cheap. No pic because it’s just a mirror and two ash trays!  :-P

I really need to get underneath to hook up the reverse backdrive, readjust that clutch, then bring it to the exhaust shop to get the pipes system installed that I bought a few months ago! After that, replace dash and wiring and (hopefully) have a fully functional car!
« Last Edit: July 11, 2018, 05:11:06 PM by Bayou_Flyer »
1975 Formula 350/4spd
1979 TA, Blk/Carmine, W72 400/4spd, WS6
1971 Firebird, Red/Blk, 350/Auto
1977 TA, Goldenrod/Buckskin, W72 400/4spd

TATurbo

  • Active Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 371
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #96 on: July 11, 2018, 08:54:45 PM »
That dash is in great shape...Nice score.  Enjoy pulling the old one out.  Good luck!
Tom
King of Prussia, PA

1981 Turbo Trans-Am
Build thread - http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=69897.0

Bayou_Flyer

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1160
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #97 on: July 12, 2018, 06:37:49 AM »
I’ll use it while I experiment on repairing the original. The radio opening is uncut, so I think it’s worth giving it a shot while still being able to use the car. The replacement will look a LOT better...even with the few cracks in it!
1975 Formula 350/4spd
1979 TA, Blk/Carmine, W72 400/4spd, WS6
1971 Firebird, Red/Blk, 350/Auto
1977 TA, Goldenrod/Buckskin, W72 400/4spd

Bayou_Flyer

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1160
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #98 on: March 25, 2019, 08:21:45 PM »
Wow....has it really been that long!? A rainy winter combined with too much cr@p in the garage, combined with life....time just got in the way. I have acquired a lot of parts and think I feel some wind in my sails.

Today, I managed to coax yardbird to life. Thinking the fuel pump is kaput as it runs fine pouring fuel into the carb until it warms up. Then it runs until it cools down again.have to pour more fuel in the carb to get it back in the garage.

I started out to get three things sorted...hook up the backdrive linkage and see if I can get the speedo cable onto the trans, and adjust the clutch to stop the TO bearing from riding on the pressure plate

Items one was a bust...the backdrive rod to the trans is too short (car originally had Saginaw, replaced with Muncie). Is the rod from the z bar to the reverse tab the same on every
F body? I have the shifter from the Sag...it has an elbow shaped extension on the reverse rod. Other issue is the free Muncie has a broken mount so it’s tab is welded on.
 
Item two was a bust...the speedo cable is too damaged where it screws onto the trans...it is also a 2pc and seized to the top cable. Will order lower cable and reattack another day.

Item three was a partial success. I was able to adjust the clutch rod, have about 1/2” moving the clutch fork by hand. Does not sound like TO bearing is engaged. The clutch pedal still have about 2” of travel and is a tad too wobbly for my liking. Maybe it’s the bushing at the top of the pedal? I don’t know. Was able to get car in garage before the rain started.
1975 Formula 350/4spd
1979 TA, Blk/Carmine, W72 400/4spd, WS6
1971 Firebird, Red/Blk, 350/Auto
1977 TA, Goldenrod/Buckskin, W72 400/4spd

Bayou_Flyer

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1160
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #99 on: April 02, 2019, 05:21:32 PM »
Not having ever really paid much attention to the differences between the Muncie and the Saginaw, I did a comparison and THEN noticed the Saginaw’s reverse tab is mounted farther forward with the forward gears, whereas the Muncie has its reverse linkage on the tail shaft.

That also explains why the original Hurst shifter has an extension piece mounted to the reverse rod...it compensates for the forward location of reverse in the Saginaw. I’ll pick up the backdrive rod for the ST-10 and see if that closes the distance. If not, it’ll just get extended the rest of the way.
1975 Formula 350/4spd
1979 TA, Blk/Carmine, W72 400/4spd, WS6
1971 Firebird, Red/Blk, 350/Auto
1977 TA, Goldenrod/Buckskin, W72 400/4spd

mz-formula

  • Active Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 751
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #100 on: April 03, 2019, 10:33:46 AM »
Just saw your post now.  Your looking for what the linkage on the trans is for reverse, or where it goes forward up the the steering column for reverse lights?

My Saginaw is out of the car with a competition plus
Hurst shifter on it, so that part should be easy.  I did not have the reverse light linkage on due to the headers being in the way.  I have that setup too, but the at will be some digging.

Bayou_Flyer

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1160
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #101 on: April 03, 2019, 07:42:25 PM »
I have to get the lower reverse lockout rod that goes from the pivot to the reverse tab on the trans. Besides the trans being out, everything was still on the car. I even have the burst shifter and rods. When I put the Muncie in, I had no idea the reverse was in two different locations between both trannies.

I haven’t measured my current lower lockout rod, but I have seen the rod for the Muncie and ST10 listed at 20.5”. Sad thing is that I had one and gave it away with a car I sold.....
1975 Formula 350/4spd
1979 TA, Blk/Carmine, W72 400/4spd, WS6
1971 Firebird, Red/Blk, 350/Auto
1977 TA, Goldenrod/Buckskin, W72 400/4spd

mz-formula

  • Active Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 751
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #102 on: April 03, 2019, 09:36:26 PM »
I will dig around and see if I can find it tomorrow for a measurement.

mz-formula

  • Active Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 751
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #103 on: April 05, 2019, 08:23:22 PM »
Still digging ... arg... my garage is in bad shape after being so long since being in there to work last... that said... no luck with the linkage.   I have it ... just no clue where at the moment.  I was finding some stuff i didn't even know I had though ... like ... an original trunk floor mat with the aqua pattern ... where on earth did I get this?!??   .. But ... a bit of a positive spin... I have a part number for you.

If you ever wondered ... or not lol... in '75 the Saginaw transmission option was "M20".  Muncie was the "M21". 





So ... A bit surprising to me ... almost every component for the M20 column lock is different than what is used on the M21.

M20 parts:
Upper Rod - 4975607
Lower Rod - 479628
Lever - 3975606
Support  (Mount) - 3975604

Hopefully this is of some sort of use.  I will keep digging for the linkage rod, time permitting and cleaning as I go.




Bayou_Flyer

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1160
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #104 on: April 20, 2019, 03:54:02 PM »
VERY interesting...and surprising, thanks! Perhaps it’d be easier to just find a useable Saginaw.????

I have the Hurst shifter/rods/tabs that all match up to that diagram. Until I put a Muncie in, I had no idea how different the hookups were! My plan is to get underneath again and measure the distance btw the pivot and reverse tab. Worst case, I’ll just have to modify something to work.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2019, 06:09:44 PM by Bayou_Flyer »
1975 Formula 350/4spd
1979 TA, Blk/Carmine, W72 400/4spd, WS6
1971 Firebird, Red/Blk, 350/Auto
1977 TA, Goldenrod/Buckskin, W72 400/4spd

Bayou_Flyer

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1160
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #105 on: May 18, 2019, 04:51:29 PM »
Trip to u pull it today yielded a nice surprise today....a 4th Gen manual console for only $7.50! It’s missing a few pieces, but I’ll get them over time. As a bonus, I Kept the power outlets and wiring for future!

The front of the console fits right below the dash! My car came without the console...the PO took it out along with the floor bracket. This one fits nice and tight between the seats.

4th Gen u-pull-it console for under $8 by Byron H, on Flickr

4th Gen u-pull-it console for under $8 by Byron H, on Flickr
« Last Edit: May 19, 2019, 07:48:07 AM by Bayou_Flyer »
1975 Formula 350/4spd
1979 TA, Blk/Carmine, W72 400/4spd, WS6
1971 Firebird, Red/Blk, 350/Auto
1977 TA, Goldenrod/Buckskin, W72 400/4spd

MNBob

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1642
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #106 on: May 19, 2019, 12:29:06 PM »
Well you can't beat that deal!  Fits in quite nice too.
1979 TATA Extreme TKO .64
Hedman elite; Pypes 2.5; Borla XS; MSD 6A; Edelbrock intake; open scoop; modified Q-jet; Powermaster 150; 4 core radiator/Mark VIII fan; RobbMc mini starter; subframe connectors; solid body mounts; fiberglass rear springs; poly sway bar and link bushings; 81 master; D52’s; Blazer disks; 225/60 & 235/60 17's TrueContact's; relays for PW, PDL, lights; keyless entry

mz-formula

  • Active Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 751
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #107 on: May 19, 2019, 05:49:07 PM »
I never would have guessed that console would fit.  Looks great.

Jack

  • Oracle Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 10213
  • 1971 Esprit TA Clone W72 1972 Formula 68 350 HO
Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #108 on: May 19, 2019, 07:07:11 PM »
Sam here can't wait to see the finished product.




Regards, Jack

Re: Project Yard Bird...1975 Formula 350/4spd
« Reply #108 on: May 19, 2019, 07:07:11 PM »
You can help support TAC!