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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #720 on: June 10, 2020, 07:22:36 AM »
Good, glad to hear it.
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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #721 on: June 10, 2020, 02:09:37 PM »
I think I need longer rear wheel studs. 7/16 is stock where or what do I get? With the 4th gen rear disc I only get 3-4 threads on. I would feel better with more thread engagement.  Any suggestions on what to order and where?
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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #722 on: June 11, 2020, 04:02:43 PM »
No idea, once you figure what size you need may be able to get something from napa.
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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #723 on: June 11, 2020, 04:24:35 PM »
What is the spline diameter?

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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #724 on: June 11, 2020, 09:06:12 PM »
No idea. It's the stock rear axel. I'll have to pull the wheel and brakes and remove one to see what it is. Iij just thought maybe someone knew what the stock ones were.
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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #725 on: June 12, 2020, 01:22:05 PM »
NAPA only shows one stud:

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/NDP6411615?partTypeName=Wheel+Bolt+-+Rear&keywordInput=wheel+stud

That one has a spline of .472" and a length of 1-1/2"

The Corvette stud has the same diameter but a length of 2-1/8"

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/NDP6411268?keywordInput=6411268

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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #726 on: June 12, 2020, 09:53:28 PM »
Perfect! Thanks!
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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #727 on: June 15, 2020, 07:23:21 PM »
See if this video link works
https://flic.kr/p/2jcfhiY

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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #728 on: June 15, 2020, 08:08:37 PM »
Yep it works.
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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #729 on: June 16, 2020, 09:25:06 AM »
That's cool

I wouldn't mind adding that to my car. I have always liked those subtle mods like that
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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #729 on: June 16, 2020, 09:25:06 AM »

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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #730 on: June 16, 2020, 10:45:30 AM »
I’ve been debating it too. I like tinkering and retrofitting things like that but I’m also trying to keep the same vibe with my car and not modernize it too much. I’ve found a fairly cheap option for adding daytime running lights I’ve considered for a while but I dunno if I will. It’s the kind that utilize the turn signal circuit, not headlights, kinda like the 4th gens. I think it would look good on just about any 2nd gen Firebird bit I keep asking myself “Why do I NEED that?” Lol
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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #731 on: June 17, 2020, 07:20:36 AM »
Locks look nice, I like the idea of a key fob remote.
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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #732 on: June 27, 2020, 08:45:19 AM »
Been refining and bolting on new items of what I can. All marker lights finished up the nose with lights and trim rings, driver side mirror and all new locks. Also been working on the rear bumper.  I hate working on urethane,  sanding urethane filler on a soft bumper really stinks. It would be so much easier if you could use regular filler, spot putty and 2k primer.... This may take a while....





Don't let it fool you. It's a good 2 footer. It photographs really well.

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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #733 on: June 27, 2020, 07:05:05 PM »
And finally installing the piece that took me years to find. The rear hood trim. Nice original chrome undamaged metal hood trim (not the cheap plastic mylar one the car came with in 79. This piece was from a 76 if I remember correctly.

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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #734 on: June 28, 2020, 01:20:35 PM »
Look at the urethane filler material and see if it is compatible with 2K primers.
The brand I used was not, and where I burned through the epoxy sanding (even very lightly) was prone to swelling when I sprayed 2K.

Just a heads up

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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #735 on: June 28, 2020, 02:51:20 PM »
Most, if not all 2k primers shouldn't be used on urethane bumpers if I remember correctly, it doesn't flex so you get cracking. I only use epoxy and wet sand it (epoxy doesn't like to be sanded).
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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #736 on: June 28, 2020, 08:36:56 PM »
It's looking very nice
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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #737 on: June 28, 2020, 09:59:45 PM »
Looks wonderful from here! 
I don't recall noting that trim piece a the rear edge of TA's...The chrome/stainless or whatever it is looks great.   I like it.
 
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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #738 on: June 29, 2020, 04:42:39 AM »
It's part of the chrome package option.  Not all T/As had it. This option gave you the fender and door chrome and T top trim as well. I think it finishes off the car. Others look a little naked to me.
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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #739 on: June 29, 2020, 06:25:29 AM »
Car is looking fantastic!

Have a couple questions about the keyless.

What year and car is the receiver out of? Did it require the ECM or BCM for support?

I have been messing with the older receivers, 1995ish GM#15955703 . These do not require anty other computer to function.

I would love to get to the newer style keyfob.

Thanks,
Stan

Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #740 on: June 29, 2020, 07:06:56 AM »
This is the BCM from a 1998 Trans am. It doesn't require any other computer. It also has the trunk pop and some of the security features.  I am trying to figure out how to isolate it because if you back feed it you fry a internal relay (I now have to find a replacement relay). I haven't found a schematic which would show how the original 98 lock switches trigger the BCM. I tried the 1995 schematic as the colors for the wires matched but that wasn't right and what took out the relay. If you find a 1998 BCM schematic with the input diagram let me know. Otherwise I will have to trace the circuit board. You should be able to find the BCMs cheap as the VATS part of these fail and many people have to replace them but that part doesn't concern us.
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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #741 on: June 29, 2020, 07:11:21 AM »
Sand blasted the rear bumper brackets and the the license plate mounting hardware.  Yes pitted, as they were heavily rusted but you won't see them. Epoxy primer coming when I paint the rear bumper.

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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #742 on: June 29, 2020, 07:44:39 AM »
Here is a schematic for a 2002....

http://www.bergerweb.net/PasslockFix/

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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #743 on: June 29, 2020, 12:50:39 PM »
All I could see in the link was a schematic that had the box that says see door wiring for lock schematic. Unless I missed it...

Anyway, I finished the majority of the repairs on the bumper and then sprayed multiple coats of epoxy.  The plan is to now wet sand the epoxy (kinda using it as a leveler). Pretty happy with it so far. Also epoxied the brackets and then put a coat of SEM satin black just to seal it. Still wet in the picture.






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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #744 on: June 29, 2020, 02:11:43 PM »
Bumper looks great! Thats one of the weak points on my 77. By the time I got to that part I was just about to throw in the towell. So it got finished with the 'thats close enough' attitude. Average guy probably wouldnt notice anything but I know its not perfect. Those brackets look pretty good, Again the ones I had were completely rusted away, I had to fab some out of some sheet metal.
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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #745 on: June 29, 2020, 03:44:13 PM »
Ya, I'm almost at that point but every time I look in the garage and see it, I get excited but I am about burnt out on filling and sanding.  I was really surprised to see the brackets were still there as most of this car was rusted away (northern Ohio = rust state).
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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #746 on: June 29, 2020, 08:12:02 PM »
Hello Luke,

I am still pretty new to TAC, so I am in the process of reading about the many builds/restorations taking place over the last decade and longer. During the last couple days I have thoroughly enjoyed reading about yours. A good friend of mine owned a 79TA also in black with the same color bird and body lettering. I always thought it was a great combination and to my knowledge kind of rare.

I admire your attention to detail and am envious of your welding ability. Black and dark colors definitely show every imperfection, I don’t think you will have any regrets on all the hours you spent on body work, block sanding and paint prep. I know you’re not finished, but in pictures this car looks stunning! Forty – Fifty years ago GM build quality was not so great, body gaps were all over the place and paint application sloppy. You have far exceeded anything the factory built back then.

I have only one experience installing the bird decal and that was about forty years ago. My decal was an original GM, so maybe that makes a difference. I used lots and lots of very soapy water and a soft rubber body squeegee, working my way out from the center. The decal applied perfectly without any issues. Probably others in this group could provide better advice on installing decals.

Last but not least. I noticed at some point you were working on wheel flares, but currently it looks like they have not been installed. Personally, I think the car looks great without them. Is that why you go by FormTA? Car is a Formula T/A?

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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #747 on: June 30, 2020, 12:22:02 AM »

It's part of the chrome package option.  Not all T/As had it. This option gave you the fender and door chrome and T top trim as well.
I think it finishes off the car. Others look a little naked to me.

I would disagree - the early 2nd Gens were more function than form, a TA with a skunk stripe would look weird with the trim package.

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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #748 on: June 30, 2020, 04:57:15 AM »
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Personally, I think the car looks great without them. Is that why you go by FormTA? Car is a Formula T/A?

No, its because I also have a 79 Formula (It's in another thread which I put on hold http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=63961.msg592211#msg592211 ).

Thanks for the positive comments. It does look really good, I'm just being picky.  My brother stopped in the other day and was amazed at it. He couldn't find a flaw other than there are 2 small wrinkles still in the hood bird. I'm pretty happy with it. I still have the spoilers which I am working on now with the bumper they are a lot of work as they have stone chips all over them and to do it right you have to use flexible filler which doesn't sand the best so they are taking a lot of time to complete. I also too time away from them to resemble the car so they weren't top of the priority list. They will go back on soon. Now I just have to find where I out the front air dam....



--It's part of the chrome package option.  Not all T/As had it. This option gave you the fender and door chrome and T top trim as well. I think it finishes off the car. Others look a little naked to me.--
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I would disagree - the early 2nd Gens were more function than form, a TA with a skunk stripe would look weird with the trim package.

Are you saying that you think a early TA with a chrome package would look weird? If so, then I agree.  When I said that I had the 77 -81 TAs in mind. I actually separate the second gens in my mind at 77 as separate generations. Actually I think I separate them 70-73 / 74-76 /77-81. It just they way I think.
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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #749 on: June 30, 2020, 06:08:03 AM »



Don't let it fool you. It's a good 2 footer. It photographs really well.


This made me laugh... NO one should be closer than that to your car anyway.  :lol: :lol: Don't be so modest man, your car looks killer and your attention to detail is top notch.

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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #750 on: June 30, 2020, 09:28:07 AM »
Thanks Ryan! Once I get this bumper done I plan to throw in the sound deadener,carpet and some seats so I can test drive it rather than in and out of the garage.
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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #751 on: June 30, 2020, 10:43:56 AM »
Thanks Ryan! Once I get this bumper done I plan to throw in the sound deadener,carpet and some seats so I can test drive it rather than in and out of the garage.

I’ll keep a lookout for you  8)
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Re: Project QuickBird with LS swap
« Reply #752 on: Today at 11:00:39 AM »
Finally got some paint on the rear bumper. So far pretty happy with how it laid out. It's still drying.





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« Reply #752 on: Today at 11:00:39 AM »
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