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Re: MalteseFalcon's 1978 WS6-W72 Fire Am Restification Project
« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2008, 10:08:07 PM »
Now I just have to find this "Ohio" place. Round at both ends and hi in the middle. Turn right at Winnipeg, I think.

If you're driving through Winnipeg let me know and I'll give you my number. Maybe we can do a Tims on one of your legs...

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Re: MalteseFalcon's 1978 WS6-W72 Fire Am Restification Project
« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2008, 10:37:26 PM »
Great garage Steve. The garage art is pretty nice. I've been thinking about hanging one of my spare hoods too but need to find a strong anchor first.
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Re: MalteseFalcon's 1978 WS6-W72 Fire Am Restification Project
« Reply #42 on: February 26, 2008, 08:45:57 AM »
I'll have to fly, I'm afraid. :cool:
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« Reply #43 on: February 26, 2008, 08:51:41 AM »
I'll have to fly, I'm afraid. :cool:

From Calgary?  Only way to get there and back in a reasonable amount of time.  I used to do great on long distance hauls (Indianapolis to Orlando, FL, in 15 hours once) but that just doesn't sound attractive anymore.  Flying coach isn't the greatest but you can (and people do) spend more time stuck in traffic jams on the Interstate.  I just try for the window seat and watch the scenery. ;)

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Re: MalteseFalcon's 1978 WS6-W72 Fire Am Restification Project
« Reply #44 on: February 28, 2008, 10:43:56 AM »
How were the lower control arm bushings when assembled/ Centered OK. I had one fellow say they should be assembled then tacked in the control arms.
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Re: MalteseFalcon's 1978 WS6-W72 Fire Am Restification Project
« Reply #45 on: February 28, 2008, 05:10:12 PM »
How were the lower control arm bushings when assembled/ Centered OK. I had one fellow say they should be assembled then tacked in the control arms.

Skip, they went in fine. I haven't done an alignment yet, but they look ok so far.

Edit: I should add that I followed the instructions from VSE that came with the control arm bushings.
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Re: MalteseFalcon's 1978 WS6-W72 Fire Am Restification Project
« Reply #46 on: March 04, 2008, 12:45:33 PM »
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Skip, they went in fine. I haven't done an alignment yet, but they look ok so far.

Edit: I should add that I followed the instructions from VSE that came with the control arm bushings.

I have the same set of bushings,  What should I be aware of?  I am not sure that I will replace the Afco lowers with the VSE's just yet.  The Afco lowers are MUCH lighter and the nylon inserts are readily available.  BTW You had a supplier for the VSE nylon inserts, who is it?  Thanks!!
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Re: MalteseFalcon's 1978 WS6-W72 Fire Am Restification Project
« Reply #47 on: March 04, 2008, 09:26:13 PM »
John, I had them welded in by a good machine shop; the control arms installed easily after I spread the mounts on the frame a bit (see Tips and Tricks, on installing lower control arms). If you don't have the instructions, I can run mine down and copy them for you - might take a while, I'm not living at my house at the moment. Same for the bushing supplier; I found them on line, but I have an invoice. I ordered them in through a local branch of an international bushing / bearing company.

Edit: Here is the manufacturer. If you have the instructions, the size of the bushing is listed there. Might be best to give them a call and ask for a local dealer:

http://www.nyliner.com/
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Re: MalteseFalcon's 1978 WS6-W72 Fire Am Restification Project
« Reply #48 on: March 05, 2008, 09:31:54 PM »
I have a one sheet set of instructions for part # H86905 - Front Steel Bushings Kit.  I have two catalogs but neither show the nyliners, both have the monoball kits.  I'd love to see that instruction sheet you have.  Thanks
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Re: MalteseFalcon's 1978 WS6-W72 Fire Am Restification Project
« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2008, 11:44:51 AM »
Now that garage seems to suit you a lot better than the last one. The wall art is nice..... :cool:

Have you put in the Hooker Bar yet ?

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Re: MalteseFalcon's 1978 WS6-W72 Fire Am Restification Project
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« Reply #50 on: March 08, 2008, 11:41:37 AM »
Now that garage seems to suit you a lot better than the last one. The wall art is nice..... :cool:

Have you put in the Hooker Bar yet ?

Thanks Russell. No, the bar isn't in yet.
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Re: MalteseFalcon's 1978 WS6-W72 Fire Am Restification Project
« Reply #51 on: June 04, 2008, 12:27:47 PM »
I'm going to be able to add a set of the VSE 180 degree headers and side exhaust to the project. These were used on the early cars; by the early 80's VSE was only offering Hooker headers in their catalog.







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Re: MalteseFalcon's 1978 WS6-W72 Fire Am Restification Project
« Reply #52 on: June 04, 2008, 02:58:58 PM »
Those are very cool...installation looks like a PIA  :shock:
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Re: MalteseFalcon's 1978 WS6-W72 Fire Am Restification Project
« Reply #53 on: June 04, 2008, 03:07:02 PM »
Those are very cool...installation looks like a PIA  :shock:

My thoughts exactly!
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Re: MalteseFalcon's 1978 WS6-W72 Fire Am Restification Project
« Reply #54 on: June 04, 2008, 03:42:23 PM »
It would, if I wasn't in a position to set them on the subframe before I install the engine, and put the front end of the car back together after that!

But can you imagine replacing the starter? And oil leaks are a fire hazard.
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« Reply #55 on: June 04, 2008, 05:17:58 PM »
Yes, but you're gonna love those once they're in, Steve! I always wanted to hear how they sounded, and finally did 2 years ago at the Nats. They are on Toni and Chris's orange Fire Am that was featured in the HPP write-up with mine. It does have a great, unique sound that I just love.  I'm sure it has performance advantages over my ram air manifolds, but I do have to say that my exhaust (Pypes w/X -over and crossflow muffler) comes very close to that sound though.
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Re: MalteseFalcon's 1978 WS6-W72 Fire Am Restification Project
« Reply #56 on: June 04, 2008, 06:45:34 PM »
I'm still amazed that much pipe fits into/under a Pontiac V8 in an F-body. :shock:

Good to see you're making progress! :) :)

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« Reply #57 on: June 05, 2008, 08:14:27 AM »
Thanks guys. Mike, I originally was going to do the same exhaust set up that you have; these weren't part of my plan, as I never expected to find them, but having come across them, I couldn't resist!

Rick, they wouldn't likely fit without the VSE aluminum low profile oil pan - there are some pics of that above.
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Re: MalteseFalcon's 1978 WS6-W72 Fire Am Restification Project
« Reply #58 on: November 17, 2009, 10:10:37 PM »
No new progress yet, but I wanted to revive my project thread and confirm that it is still alive!  I'm just waking up from a long, long nap without any Fire Am dreams. Progress soon, though, I hope. Next is refinishing the underside, and detailing, painting and assembling all of the new front suspension parts I bought!

I also picked up a set of 17x9 Snowflakes from Year One. Yay! the Fire Am will have modern rubber!
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« Reply #59 on: November 17, 2009, 10:45:38 PM »
Wow..other than your posts over the last few days...we haven't heard from you since May.

Good to see you are still alive yourself Steve.  :-D
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Re: MalteseFalcon's 1978 WS6-W72 Fire Am Restification Project
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« Reply #60 on: November 17, 2009, 10:50:06 PM »
Thanks John! I'm glad I'm still alive too, most days. There have been some ...  :wink:
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« Reply #61 on: January 04, 2013, 07:25:11 PM »
Well. It's hard to believe it's been this long. I guess I better decide if I'm going to finish this car or sell it.
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Re: MalteseFalcon's 1978 WS6-W72 Fire Am Restification Project
« Reply #62 on: January 04, 2013, 11:09:24 PM »
Finish it bro..... :cool:
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Re: MalteseFalcon's 1978 WS6-W72 Fire Am Restification Project
« Reply #63 on: January 05, 2013, 12:57:17 AM »
That is a great looking project. I have always wondered what the 180 degree headers looked like, and all I can say is WOW. Lots of tubing.

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Re: MalteseFalcon's 1978 WS6-W72 Fire Am Restification Project
« Reply #64 on: January 05, 2013, 02:48:42 PM »
Don't sell, finish it. This is the car that got me interested in Fire Am's!
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« Reply #65 on: January 08, 2013, 08:13:51 AM »
I'm just glad to see you back and posting.  I've often wondered how you were doing. 
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« Reply #66 on: January 08, 2013, 11:29:18 AM »
I'm just glad to see you back and posting.  I've often wondered how you were doing. 

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« Reply #67 on: January 13, 2013, 12:04:07 PM »
Thanks guys, life is good. I sometimes wonder why I seemed to make more progress on the car when I had more excuses not to, but I guess that is not really an automotive issue :)

What I really should do is put 4 hours of car restoration in my Outlook calendar every week ...
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« Reply #68 on: January 18, 2013, 03:20:32 PM »
very interesting I bet they will sound great
looks like number 4 cylinder had been "massaged"
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« Reply #69 on: December 10, 2015, 06:30:42 PM »
Hmmmmm. Looks like some updates are in order around here...
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« Reply #70 on: December 10, 2015, 06:53:18 PM »
No sense in rushing in to things :shock: lol
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« Reply #71 on: December 12, 2015, 07:57:53 AM »
Yes, update please!
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« Reply #72 on: January 30, 2016, 11:09:02 AM »
where do you keep finding all of them fire am parts?

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« Reply #73 on: March 09, 2016, 01:27:13 PM »
LOL some of us still exist... 
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« Reply #74 on: March 10, 2016, 12:36:58 AM »
L/S bluebird, it was mostly a matter of keeping my eyes open and running regular searches on Ebay for VSE parts. And when people know what you're doing, sometimes they contact you.
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« Reply #75 on: July 29, 2020, 09:08:39 PM »
Well, I'm back.

it looks like a lot has changed since I started this thread ... Fire Am parts including the decals available from NPD, Herb Adams and Matt Adams back in the VSE / Fire Am / Cheverra business and  building new ones. Facebook pages devoted to Fire Am enthusiasts. It's great to see so many people appreciating and getting to enjoy these terrific cars.

More progress and further updates soon. I am going to finish this Bird.
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« Reply #76 on: July 29, 2020, 09:53:17 PM »
Looks like you will have to re-link the pictures too. Sounds like a cool project!

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« Reply #77 on: July 29, 2020, 10:19:30 PM »
THAT was the other thing. Photobucket changed their format. I''ll have to see if I can get the pics up again.
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« Reply #78 on: August 01, 2020, 03:03:22 PM »
There. I switched the pictures to Imagur, so they are back.
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Re: MalteseFalcon's 1978 WS6-W72 Fire Am Restification Project
« Reply #79 on: August 01, 2020, 06:28:38 PM »
OH my gooooooooooooooooooooooooood look at all those parts you've accumilated! I didn't know you were on here! That has to be the most ideal T/A to make a F/A!

I saw you mentioned early on in your post, that the stock Pontiac 400 W72 oil sump and system won't work well with the suspension upgrades, has this got to do with the motor being starved of oil when cornering?? Man I'll really have to look into a better oiling system....
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