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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2013, 11:33:10 PM »
Weren't the Year One BRE Ban 2's going for around $150k?
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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2013, 06:03:18 AM »
I noticed the Hurst hatches right off the bat too...

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« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2013, 06:44:34 AM »
25k seems a bit much for a 403 clone with a busted motor...

Guess that's why they are giving it away...

Soooo....how many TACers registered to win the Gas Monkey T/A...I did...  


   How? when? where?

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« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2013, 07:08:00 AM »
I agree with the popularity on the rise for sure.  The 'ol boy I bought my '79 TATA from says he gets about 8-10 TA's a year to flip them and do it fast...cause they dont' stick around.  He's got other models of cars in his garage and they just sit and are hard sales. 

I probably overpaid for my TATA, but it was a local buy and came very well documented what had been done to it mechanically so I got to check it out.  Like one other member said they were built poorly and not intended to last this long or become iconic like this so now I'm like everyone else trying to bring it to some sort of glory and never really get finished with the car!

BUT I will tell you and I bet everyone agrees that when you tell people like I do "Yeah I drive a 1979 10th Anniversary Trans Am"....they completely flip out.   Smooth flip out.

I have had late 60's Mustangs and no one flipped out like they do when I say Trans Am.

God I love and hate this car at the same time.  It's a "I love you, but I want to kill you." kinda thing.  If it could only talk to me and say "here's what needs to be fixed next since you JUST finished THAT project!"  :)

But I would never and never will own any older muscle car besides this....

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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2013, 07:11:14 AM »
Weren't the Year One BRE Ban 2's going for around $150k?

Yes, but Year One replaced everything they could on those cars, and they had modern brakes, wheels, suspension, and drivetrains. I count the "Pontiac" engines Y.O. installed as modern because they were aftermarket blocks, cranks, and heads.
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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2013, 08:04:06 AM »
I think they end up rebuilding the motor a second time in the show next week. A clip of such is eluded to in the clip for next week. I think the show is all about The Show. I think the numbers are just numbers for TV. If the guy bought the car then why are they giving it away? $140K? I have 4 items signed by Burt Reynolds for my TA's and none will bring that kind of money.
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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #46 on: December 03, 2013, 08:04:49 AM »
Things I noticed watching the show.  The car is a clone.  Had the red Pontiac emblem on the nose, the steering wheel is bent, looks like someone painted the chrome trim flat black, no stripes, no decals on the shaker.

The car they are building is listed as a 77 but isn't the car they are giving away a 78?

The next episode where they go to Burt's house is not in the car they are building.  It doesn't have the YO's on it.  Unless they used the car for filming before they tore it apart?

The other thing I saw them do was dump the exhaust in front of the axles.  I can't believe anyone would do that on a Trans Am unless they didn't have the time to route new exhaust around the 4 link?

For 70K plus another 40K that car better have something other than a 403 and an overdrive tranny with bolt on suspension or I'm asking waaaaaay to little for my Red T/A.

I love the show and watch it every week.  I mainly like the characters.  The doo doo^ they coble together is mind blowing sometimes but that's the entertaining part.  Like breaking in the cam on the Shelby with Oreilly's oil and some zinc additive.  No timing light either. :shock:  I'd be too embarrassed to show that on TV and call myself a builder.

I'm looking forward to next week to see what motor they put in the car.  If it's a rebuilt 403 I'll just be shaking my head.

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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #47 on: December 03, 2013, 08:19:52 AM »
Weren't the Year One BRE Ban 2's going for around $150k?

Yes, but Year One replaced everything they could on those cars, and they had modern brakes, wheels, suspension, and drivetrains. I count the "Pontiac" engines Y.O. installed as modern because they were aftermarket blocks, cranks, and heads.

Exactly. I'd rather spend an extra 10% to have a car built by guys who know what they're doing with these cars with tested combinations than what is essentially a backyard build with Burt's signature on it...
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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #48 on: December 03, 2013, 08:41:00 AM »
Things I noticed watching the show.  The car is a clone.  Had the red Pontiac emblem on the nose, the steering wheel is bent, looks like someone painted the chrome trim flat black, no stripes, no decals on the shaker.

The car they are building is listed as a 77 but isn't the car they are giving away a 78?

The next episode where they go to Burt's house is not in the car they are building.  It doesn't have the YO's on it.  Unless they used the car for filming before they tore it apart?

The other thing I saw them do was dump the exhaust in front of the axles.  I can't believe anyone would do that on a Trans Am unless they didn't have the time to route new exhaust around the 4 link?

For 70K plus another 40K that car better have something other than a 403 and an overdrive tranny with bolt on suspension or I'm asking waaaaaay to little for my Red T/A.

I love the show and watch it every week.  I mainly like the characters.  The doo doo^ they coble together is mind blowing sometimes but that's the entertaining part.  Like breaking in the cam on the Shelby with Oreilly's oil and some zinc additive.  No timing light either. :shock:  I'd be too embarrassed to show that on TV and call myself a builder.

I'm looking forward to next week to see what motor they put in the car.  If it's a rebuilt 403 I'll just be shaking my head.



In 77 the arrowhead was red on the SE's and window trim on all SE's was a semi flat black. I believe the car they are doing is a 77 cause the grilles, roof and interior are correct for a 77. Now not sure if its a correct SE or not.

The car theypull up to Burt in isnt thesame car. Its another car they take to get his sig. On the others glove box door.
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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #49 on: December 03, 2013, 08:47:14 AM »
Didn't know about the Red Pontiac emblem on the 77's, thought it would be the same as 78.

The trim is painted Satin black but theirs looks off to me?  Maybe just the camera playing tricks on me.
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« Reply #50 on: December 03, 2013, 09:32:53 AM »
I love Fast 'n Loud.  It's the best kind of reality show...one that doesn't take itself seriously.  They don't for one minute try to convince you that everything you're seeing is authentic and would have happened regardless of whether the cameras were filming.

They also play in another world.  So of the money they throw around is crazy. 

Still hoping to make a run down to the GM Grill next summer.  And hopefully in the TA.

That said, last night's Smokey and the Bandit episode might have been my favorite one yet.  Until next week that is when we get more Burt Reynolds and Aaron as the Snowman.

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« Reply #51 on: December 03, 2013, 09:59:35 AM »
I love the show, but you have to keep in mind with all these realty show is they are scripted. It's totally obvious with Fast & Loud, with all the piles of cash being thrown around, and every build has it's bit of drama.
As far as T/A used at Burts house and the promo's , the car was rented from a local collector in south Florida.

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« Reply #52 on: December 03, 2013, 10:32:41 AM »
The show was great!  Even the girlfriend liked most of it. 
I tried to read how to sign up for the free TA, but they showed it so fast that I couldn't read it all before it disappeared.  :sad:

What I wanted to know was, who made the four-link suspension that they bolted into the rear of the car?  I would have thought that they would have shown someone's logo or something, but I didn't see any.
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« Reply #53 on: December 03, 2013, 11:28:30 AM »
I think the coil overs said ridetech?
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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #54 on: December 03, 2013, 11:48:03 AM »
Didn't know about the Red Pontiac emblem on the 77's, thought it would be the same as 78.

The trim is painted Satin black but theirs looks off to me?  Maybe just the camera playing tricks on me.

The front trim was black, but when they first took the test drive it looked like the rear window trim was chrome or stainless as the car drove out of the garage. I'd have to watch it again to be sure.

I also hated watching them bleed the brakes without a line on the bleeder and shoot brake fluid all over the Wilwood set up.

Still kinda entertaining. I love the interior lady who calls them Ass Monkey.

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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #55 on: December 03, 2013, 12:31:56 PM »
I also hated watching them bleed the brakes without a line on the bleeder and shoot brake fluid all over the Wilwood set up.


That was painful to watch.  However, to someone that has never done the job themselves, bleeding the lines into a tube isn't a visual experience, and therefor not something that the TV-only crowd would understand.  Shooting all over the place is something that even a teenager can understand!   :lol:
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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #56 on: December 03, 2013, 01:02:29 PM »
I like the fact that everything they do isn't perfect and they occasionally screw up.  My dad has the reputation of being one of the best mechanics in the town we lived in when I was growing up.  That said, I've been with him when we've screwed up a fix, forget a step in the process or something didn't go as planned.  It happens.

And like it was said earlier, I think most of the 'issues and problems' are scripted for TV.

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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #57 on: December 03, 2013, 03:41:05 PM »
All that suspension work but no frame connectors or solid body mounts .
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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #58 on: December 03, 2013, 03:49:51 PM »
All that suspension work but no frame connectors or solid body mounts .

They had a long way to go and a short time to get there!    :P
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« Reply #59 on: December 03, 2013, 04:33:45 PM »
I believe the show is scripted as well as the money is scripted....I love the show and its entertaining !! Even though it is a reality show, it's still TV. I enjoy it for that reason because there is a lot of crap on TV and that just happens to be my favorite crap! :-P
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« Reply #60 on: December 03, 2013, 04:38:17 PM »
You think they would have atleast power washed the underside, it looked terrible.... I mean isnt the buyer paying over 70K for the car?
They should have called Dave at PTFB for the suspension... :-D
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« Reply #61 on: December 03, 2013, 04:42:03 PM »
Actually they did put a decent suspension on the car and good brakes.  I'd take that over a leaf spring set up any day!
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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #62 on: December 03, 2013, 06:37:45 PM »
 I'd be too embarrassed to show that on TV and call myself a builder.


They are not builders. They are glorified car flippers... :-?

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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #63 on: December 03, 2013, 07:01:59 PM »
For 70K plus another 40K that car better have something other than a 403 and an overdrive tranny with bolt on suspension or I'm asking waaaaaay to little for my Red T/A.
I'm looking forward to next week to see what motor they put in the car.  If it's a rebuilt 403 I'll just be shaking my head.

My sentiments exactly.
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« Reply #64 on: December 03, 2013, 07:27:41 PM »
I love Fast 'n Loud.  It's the best kind of reality show...one that doesn't take itself seriously.  They don't for one minute try to convince you that everything you're seeing is authentic and would have happened regardless of whether the cameras were filming.

They also play in another world.  So of the money they throw around is crazy.  

Still hoping to make a run down to the GM Grill next summer.  And hopefully in the TA.

That said, last night's Smokey and the Bandit episode might have been my favorite one yet.  Until next week that is when we get more Burt Reynolds and Aaron as the Snowman.

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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #65 on: December 03, 2013, 07:31:11 PM »
My jaw dropped when the guy told Richard he only paid $5,000 for it. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

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« Reply #66 on: December 03, 2013, 07:50:45 PM »
He must've bought it in 79. :-)
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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #67 on: December 03, 2013, 07:59:18 PM »
 I'd be too embarrassed to show that on TV and call myself a builder.


They are not builders. They are glorified car flippers... :-?

No offense to flippers.

I guess I must have seen a different show (not just this episode but the series in general) than you have...

What would qualify as a "builder" to you?????  Sure they flip some without touching them, but they build some nice cars too.

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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #68 on: December 03, 2013, 08:01:49 PM »
What I like is all the buzz about Trans Am's. I am a gas monkey fan because I like everything about cars. I would love to work and restore cars all day.  Also I have always been a Smokey and the Bandit fan.

The other good thing is now my car is worth twice as much as it was before the show aired. Dano

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« Reply #69 on: December 03, 2013, 08:18:01 PM »
I missed it  :-( anyone know if it will be on again or if it is online?

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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #70 on: December 03, 2013, 08:36:10 PM »
I think they do a replay of the show the following week with out takes.

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« Reply #71 on: December 03, 2013, 08:50:38 PM »
For 70K plus another 40K that car better have something other than a 403 and an overdrive tranny with bolt on suspension or I'm asking waaaaaay to little for my Red T/A.
I'm looking forward to next week to see what motor they put in the car.  If it's a rebuilt 403 I'll just be shaking my head.

My sentiments exactly.
According to the site where you register to win the T/A, it is still a 403 in the car in the finished product. I guess we find out next week what they do to it. I like 403's myself,(more so than a 400),  but if I were spending that kind of money on a car it would have more than a 403 or 400 in it, I would be going built big block under the hood myself. If I win it, could car care less, even if it had a 301 in it. I enjoy that show, all of them seem like really good guys, easy going, and would be a hoot to hang around with.
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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #72 on: December 03, 2013, 09:09:03 PM »
I wonder if some of the imperfections are intentional, just to get us cars guys talking about it. Free publicity. I think Richard is more calculated than just plain lucky.
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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #73 on: December 03, 2013, 10:16:15 PM »
Just saw the episode... Not used to seeing Burt Reynolds looks so old and slow. Kinda sad.

Also hated seeing them doing donut after donut in the shop parking lot. Maybe that's what fried the motor. Didn't Richard drive it home from the guy he purchased it from?

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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #74 on: December 03, 2013, 10:24:30 PM »
For 70K plus another 40K that car better have something other than a 403 and an overdrive tranny with bolt on suspension or I'm asking waaaaaay to little for my Red T/A.
I'm looking forward to next week to see what motor they put in the car.  If it's a rebuilt 403 I'll just be shaking my head.

My sentiments exactly.
According to the site where you register to win the T/A, it is still a 403 in the car in the finished product. I guess we find out next week what they do to it. I like 403's myself,(more so than a 400),  but if I were spending that kind of money on a car it would have more than a 403 or 400 in it, I would be going built big block under the hood myself. If I win it, could car care less, even if it had a 301 in it. I enjoy that show, all of them seem like really good guys, easy going, and would be a hoot to hang around with.


If ya look at it from Richard point of view like all business men, build it as cheap as possible more profit for the shop. The guy asked for a $70k car but he will probably get a $50k and the shop profits $20k.

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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #75 on: December 03, 2013, 11:13:14 PM »
Did anyone else notice the rear seat console in the T/A?
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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #76 on: December 03, 2013, 11:15:26 PM »
What is so great about this car ? Perhaps, I missed something in all the flashbacks to Burt and Sally.  
Frankly, was not that impressed by the car, but the show was good on Tuesday.  Perhaps, I need to wait til Thursday's show  ?

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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #77 on: December 04, 2013, 02:10:48 AM »
Tom is my favorite charector , he is just funny and goofy as all get up!
I love this show just for what it is a tv show. I think it is definitely helping the value of trans am though!
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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #78 on: December 04, 2013, 07:52:50 AM »
Where do you register to win a car?

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Re: Gas Monkey and the Bandit
« Reply #79 on: December 04, 2013, 09:09:23 AM »

I guess I must have seen a different show (not just this episode but the series in general) than you have...

What would qualify as a "builder" to you?????  Sure they flip some without touching them, but they build some nice cars too.

"Builder" is someone who actually has a vision, a plan, and some serious talent to make that vision happen.  A quick glance through Yellow Bullet or Pro-Touring forums brings up a lot of examples of car builders, like this:  http://www.dmcracing.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=15

Bolting parts to a car does not a builder make, especially to a rusty undercarriage with a beat up front A-arm, like this T/A had, which (at least in part 1 never got addressed...), so yes, I call them car flippers and not builders... But that is only my opinion  :-D 
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