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« on: July 25, 2012, 05:23:08 AM »

does any one know if Alanflies is from michigan there was a bad trans am wreck found out on PY  This showed up on mlive.com Grand Rapids,Mi. Three year restoration just completed. Guy swerved to avoid another car and dump truck got him. No one was seriously hurt.
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2012, 05:27:22 AM »

No pics, Conrad....
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2012, 05:28:30 AM »

Copied it from PY 77-81 section not sure how to do the pics.
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2012, 05:33:09 AM »

OK, found it......thats bad. Glad it didn't get to the drivers seat, and there was no one else in the car. Sounds like another driver casued the crash, not the truckdriver or T/A driver's fault.
Sad.

heres the link....

http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2012/07/two_hurt_in_comstock_park_cras.html
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2012, 05:40:05 AM »

Thanks for posting the article Leigh.
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2012, 05:43:16 AM »

Wow...That is crazy!  Shocked I hope everyone is ok! Such a shame about the TA though...not much to be salvaged from that.
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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2012, 06:01:22 AM »

Glad no one was seriously injured. How they figure that is an 83'? Car sure does look like I've seen it here before.
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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2012, 06:22:11 AM »

That car appears to have been a hardtop, and I think Alanflies car had t-tops.

Glad everyone is going to be ok.
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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2012, 06:38:42 AM »

Alan lives by me.  South of the Mason-Dixon  Razz

1983 Trans Am????  Yeah- right.
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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2012, 06:56:36 AM »

thats good it not alan but not sure who it is. it was a three year resto.
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2012, 07:24:58 AM »

That is bad, but good that no one was hurt. How could they say it is an 83? Especially since they interviewed the owner…
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2012, 07:32:52 AM »

I'm betting that outcome may have been different for the driver had it been a ttop car.
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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2012, 08:25:10 AM »

Ouch. Thank God there was no passengers, Hopefully he had good replacement insurance.
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2012, 08:39:29 AM »

what ashame!!!  Glad no one was seriously hurt...wait...the Trans Am was fatally injured Sad  appears to be a 79 auto car from what I can get from the pics
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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2012, 10:07:52 AM »

Wow so glad everyone is ok.  Just went to an accident the other day where a drunk driver hit a row of cars at 50MPH and killed his passenger.  Too bad about the trans am, I wonder if the driver would have been better off hitting the car the pulled out in front of him.  
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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2012, 10:15:16 AM »

glad everyone is ok and it sucks about the TA. We just had a bad accident here in front of my Apt complex. a lexus pulled out in front of a motorcycle and unfortunately the rider was fatally injured!
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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2012, 11:39:32 AM »

If that was my T/A, and the accident didn't kill the other driver, I WOULD have!
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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2012, 12:11:27 PM »

So happy they survived that terrible crash, proves the media doesn't check their facts. Probably someone standing around said 83, and that was written into the story.
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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2012, 01:12:06 PM »

If that was my T/A, and the accident didn't kill the other driver, I WOULD have!

'Cause you never ever made a mistake on the road in your life, right?  Wink

I wasn't there, I can't say whether the act was intentional or not, but it's just a car and in the end he's lucky the car took a bullet for him.

An interesting point was brought up regarding T-tops. I wonder indeed whether the outcome would have been different with T-tops... I know 4th gens are intrinsically "t-tops" whether you have them installed or not (cut off the roof skin on one and you'll see what I mean) but I have no idea what this does to the crash-worthiness of my 3rd gen w/ having t-tops. I certainly DO feel crazy flex if I stick my finger in the gap between the a-pillar and the t-top edge trim as I drive! Surprised
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« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2012, 01:34:07 PM »

1st off, I agree with those that the fact the owner survived is the most important facet of the story.  There are 109,844 other '79 T/A's out there.  Sickening that it happened, but the guy should buy a lottery ticket.

I got thinking about that Subaru commercial where the guy goes back to the junkyard to see his totalled car one last time while reflecting on what could have happened if the car weren't as safe.  I guess I would want to buy back the wrecked car and salvage what I could, but then is it like the lifeboat deal where they have to be destroyed...?

Is reusing the drivetrain from your otherwise totalled car bad karma...?  Hope I never get to find out... Sad
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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2012, 01:46:23 PM »

whew...im glad everyone is o.k.

nope, it wasn't me and I'm happy to see that yall still love me... Cool   
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« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2012, 01:59:48 PM »

Is reusing the drivetrain from your otherwise totalled car bad karma...?  Hope I never get to find out... Sad

Doubt it. But I'd probably treat the wreck as I would a helmet... it did its job, but it might not be as structurally sound as it was before the crash and maybe wouldn't be able to do it as well as second time. I too hope to never be in that situation.
(I suppose the F-body type of structure would probably make it more feasible to repair a front end impact? However, with something as body-mangling as the rear/side impact in this particular accident, I doubt it would ever be "right" again.)

But it is interesting how I default to picking the F-car structure apart in my mind and imagining what could possibly be brought back to roadworthy and safe state whereas imagining a wreck in my Daytona I'd probably want to move on to another car. A testament to the F-body construction mechanism or simply an obsession of mine with this body style?
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« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2012, 02:33:57 PM »

Is reusing the drivetrain from your otherwise totalled car bad karma...?  Hope I never get to find out... Sad
Doubt it. But I'd probably treat the wreck as I would a helmet... it did its job, but it might not be as structurally sound as it was before the crash and maybe wouldn't be able to do it as well as second time. I too hope to never be in that situation.
(I suppose the F-body type of structure would probably make it more feasible to repair a front end impact? However, with something as body-mangling as the rear/side impact in this particular accident, I doubt it would ever be "right" again.)

No, the body shell is toast, but the RH wheels look OK so I assume drivetrain is probably OK.  So, just from a practicality standpoint, you get a $20-somethingK check for the car, minus a few hundred to buy the wreck back, salvage the engine, transmission, rearend, wheels and some options, gauges, stereo, etc. and use them to rebuild another restorable '79 (projects ranging from $500 to $10K), I figure with nice paint and interior, you might break even or come out a bit ahead if you're able to do most of the work... 
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« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2012, 03:01:35 PM »

If that was my T/A, and the accident didn't kill the other driver, I WOULD have!

'Cause you never ever made a mistake on the road in your life, right?  Wink

I wasn't there, I can't say whether the act was intentional or not, but it's just a car and in the end he's lucky the car took a bullet for him.

An interesting point was brought up regarding T-tops. I wonder indeed whether the outcome would have been different with T-tops... I know 4th gens are intrinsically "t-tops" whether you have them installed or not (cut off the roof skin on one and you'll see what I mean) but I have no idea what this does to the crash-worthiness of my 3rd gen w/ having t-tops. I certainly DO feel crazy flex if I stick my finger in the gap between the a-pillar and the t-top edge trim as I drive! Surprised
Yeah,but it should have been a Suburu WRX instead..............just sayin Wink
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« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2012, 05:36:39 PM »

Well I gotta say it....

That'll buff right out!

Very spooky for me.... the car looks a lot like mine.
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