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« on: August 16, 2011, 04:39:33 PM »

  As some might know I'm new to Trans Am's picking up my first one about 4 months ago, which is a 76 L/E 50th car. Anyway I been doing a lot of reading on here about different types of T/A's, 10th Anniversary, 76 L/E, 77-81 S/E, WS-6 cars, W-72 Cars etc.  It all got me wondering about what is the most desired and or valuable Trans Am's. Now I know about the 69's and up through 74's with with Ram Air, H/O, and Super Duty models and I think it's obvious that those are worth the most, but how about the 75 and up cars? I know options play a part, so figure that when comparing, as much as possible think of the cars with similar options. What of those is most desirable or worth the most?   

I would hope it is the 76 L/E car, and I know everyone has an opinion but what does everyone think?


Thanks in advance for deepening my knowledge on Trans Am's
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2011, 05:59:49 PM »

75/76 455/4spds, any W72 especially 4spds, SEs, Y88s, 10ths. I think unlike early 2nd gens, the more options the better on late 2nd gens. So a hard loaded W72/WS6 4spd car would be my preference. Of course color is a factor too, '76 for example, 455/4pd in Carousel Red or Goldenrod Yellow would be more desireable than say white or silver.
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2011, 06:36:31 PM »

A 76 455/4 speed in Carousel Red would be right up at the top of my list, too....last year for the 455, last year for single round headlights, last year for Carousel Red.....
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2011, 06:50:47 PM »

A 76 455/4 speed in Carousel Red would be right up at the top of my list, too....last year for the 455, last year for single round headlights, last year for Carousel Red.....

...and first year for the black and gold decor and t-tops. That's what has attracted me to the 76 LE 455/4 spd w/t-tops. It was the only year your could get that combo from the factory.

As for the original question...I think Paul hit it. I think the 77/78 SE W72 is probably the most popular with the other editions falling in right behind. Surprisingly I don't see a whole lot of demand for the 75 LEs even the 455 versions when compared to SEs or TATAs. Maybe it's just that there aren't as many of them or maybe its the body style (front end).
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2011, 07:12:44 PM »

I agree that a 77/78 Loaded up SE with 4 speed is probably the most sought after. Mainly because of some movie, forgot the name, but people love them and who can blame them.

Some people have to have a SE Trans Am or nothing. Guys like me would take a 79 Nocturne Blue W/72 or a 76 Firethorn or Carousel Red 4 speed 455 over any of the SE's, But not by much, for the most part any 2nd Gen holds a soft spot in my heart.
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2011, 02:45:21 PM »

I think a Brewster Green SD 4spd car is up on the charts,......right Brian?, and of course 77-79 W72 4spd SE cars.
But I think 71-72 Lucy Blue 4spd cars are next to the SD's in value....I WANT ONE BAD! Sad Mad
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2011, 03:11:54 PM »

Post '74, here's my opinion in order from highest to lowest value for the most desireable versions.  There is certainly going to be variability based on condition, but in general, desireability seems to trump rareness for pricing.  I would say the 76 LE, and '77-'78 SE cars are going to be real close in value, with the '76 maybe edging out the other slightly.  Curious if anyone disagrees with this list.

'76 LE 455/4speed, t-top
'78 SE, WS6, 4 speed, W72, t-top
'77 SE, 4 speed, W72, t-top
'79 SE 4speed, W72, WS6, t-top
'79 TATA 4 speed/W72
'78-'79 SE's with 403's
'79 TATA with 403
'80-81 Turbo TA SE
'76 455/4speed (more desireable the color, greater the value)
'79 W72/4speed (more desireable the color, greater the value)
'77-78 W72 4 speed
'80 Indy Turbo TA
'81 Daytona Pace Car
'77-'78 400 W72, Automatic
'75 455/4speed
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2011, 03:24:27 PM »


'76 LE 455/4speed, t-top
'78 SE, WS6, 4 speed, W72, t-top
'77 SE, 4 speed, W72, t-top
'79 SE 4speed, W72, WS6, t-top
'79 TATA 4 speed/W72
'78-'79 SE's with 403's
'79 TATA with 403
'80-81 Turbo TA SE
'76 455/4speed (more desireable the color, greater the value)
'79 W72/4speed (more desireable the color, greater the value)
'77-78 W72 4 speed
'80 Indy Turbo TA
'81 Daytona Pace Car
'77-'78 400 W72, Automatic
'75 455/4speed

No 77-78 SE W72 400 automatics?
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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2011, 03:24:50 PM »

Post '74, here's my opinion in order from highest to lowest value for the most desireable versions.  There is certainly going to be variability based on condition, but in general, desireability seems to trump rareness for pricing.  I would say the 76 LE, and '77-'78 SE cars are going to be real close in value, with the '76 maybe edging out the other slightly.  Curious if anyone disagrees with this list.

'76 LE 455/4speed, t-top
'78 SE, WS6, 4 speed, W72, t-top
'77 SE, 4 speed, W72, t-top
'79 SE 4speed, W72, WS6, t-top
'79 TATA 4 speed/W72
'78-'79 SE's with 403's
'79 TATA with 403
'80-81 Turbo TA SE
'76 455/4speed (more desireable the color, greater the value)
'79 W72/4speed (more desireable the color, greater the value)
'77-78 W72 4 speed
'80 Indy Turbo TA
'81 Daytona Pace Car
'77-'78 400 W72, Automatic
'75 455/4speed
I would think a 77-78 W72 auto car would be more than any 301 turbo or non or 301 SE,sorry,a W72 is a totally different animal....and would be close to a SE 403 car in value if same condition and mileage.
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2011, 03:26:05 PM »

I would have to disagree with the W72 TATA placement on the list. They always seem to command a high amount for low mileage examples.At the height of the market, they always seemed to be pulling more money than the SE's. I also think the 80 Indy's usually bring more than the 80-81 SE's.  I would agree that rare doesn't equal high dollar. The 79 W72 Formula I have is rare, but would not command the dollars that some 403/auto Trans Am's do. However,  it's what I wanted so I considered it very desirable Very Happy
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2011, 04:17:29 PM »

I inadvertently missed the '77-78 SE Auto cars.  I guess you could break it out further.  Regarding the SE vs the TATA, I think I need to stick with my assessment based on the current market.  I think on average TATA's sell for more simply because so many more were well preserved low mileage examples. So in essence there are a more quality TATAs for sale than quality SEs leading one to believe they are worth more.  However, I've noticed that all other things being equal that quality low mileage mint SEs tend to get a few more dollars in real world auctions than the 10th anniversary cars.  Now with regard to the 301 Turbo SE's.  Have you seen one lately?  How about ever?  Compared to the '77-79 SEs, they seem to be as rare as Superdutys, with very very few original examples remaining.  Unfortunately I think once I got bellow the SE's and TATAs the market is very similar.  I have seen mint 301 Turbo SEs command $35k plus prices at auction, while most W72 cars barely break into the $20k's in similar condition.  I think with any late 2nd gen TA, the price is going to be highly variable based on the condition of the car, the wad of cash the buyer is willing to spend and the way the wind is blowing that day, with most top examples not cracking the $35k mark anymore.  The market has changed a lot and is still changing, so I'm probably off a bit.  I guess all I'm trying to say is that its possible for the car on the bottom of my list to sell for more than the car on the top of my list given the right conditions.  I think for quality cars the high and low for the market here is about $15-30k for the most part.  
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2011, 04:28:20 PM »

Of course this is the easier list to compile (in order of highest price to lowest).   Granted the position of the '70 RAIII is right there with its 455HO cousins.  

1969 Trans Am Convertible
1969 Ram Air IV TA (4 speed)
1969 Ram Air IV TA (Auto)
1970 Ram Air IV TA (4 speed)
1970 Ram Air IV TA (Auto)
1969 Ram Air III TA (4 speed)
1969 Ram Air III TA (Auto)
1973 455 SD (4 speed)
1973 455 SD (Auto)
1974 455 SD (4 speed)
1974 455 SD (Auto)
1971 455 HO (4 speed)
1972 455 HO (4 speed)
1971 455 HO (Auto)
1972 455 HO (Auto)
1970 400 RAIII (4 speed)
1970 400 RAIII (Auto)
1973 455 (4 speed)
1973 455 (Auto)
.....and the '74s following these
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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2011, 08:11:49 PM »

The reason 1977-78 W72 automatic cars have have not brought more than $20K is you do not see many quality examples, most are SE cars,  and the fact that mine hasn't crossed the block......yet.  A price of $35K would not be enough to buy my 1977 W72 automatic car.  If mine were to cross the auction block, a new record would be set for 1977-78 base model W72 automatic car.  I am that confident in the quality of my car.  
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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2011, 08:48:31 PM »

Well, I guess I'll chime in here.

When I found my 76, it had a desireable feature that isn't particular to Trans Am, or even Pontiac. 

This "feature" was a complete interior  Cool  A deluxe interior, at that.

What would be the most desireable, in my opinion, is a 77 black on black non-SE (too much gold on the SE's), T-top, 4-speed, WS6/W72, and power everything.  This, of course, for all under $5K.   Laughing  Laughing  Laughing



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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2011, 11:09:08 PM »

dont forget the one that started the craze

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actually ive always loved the '78 marty blue w/ black cloth int combo. (4sp WS6 W72 loaded of course)
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« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2011, 11:20:29 PM »

Well, I guess I'll chime in here.

When I found my 76, it had a desireable feature that isn't particular to Trans Am, or even Pontiac. 

This "feature" was a complete interior  Cool  A deluxe interior, at that.

What would be the most desireable, in my opinion, is a 77 black on black non-SE (too much gold on the SE's), T-top, 4-speed, WS6/W72, and power everything.  This, of course, for all under $5K.   Laughing  Laughing  Laughing




That will be a long hunt - no WS6 cars in 77 Laughing
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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2011, 12:44:38 PM »

you know its funny that we talk about what makes a late 70s trans am worth money be it the color the drivetrain or just the options in general, couple weeks ago i took my 79 Y84 W72 T/A to a local cruise inn, there was another 79 black trans am there , the whole time there all i heard was theres another bandit t/a like yours here no mentioning of SE,W72,WS6 etc... i have heard several different comments over the years about seeing similar ones to mine for sale for 7-9K WHAT OPTIONS, not all late 70s T/As are bandit cars but to some people even the red ones are where as you see a 69 Chevrolet people ask what motor then they assume big bucks, wheres as the 70s T/As seem to take on a different image, i dont know could just be my having a higher belief and standard on these birds
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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2011, 02:28:03 PM »

I take pride in owning one of the LEAST desirable 2d gen Trans Ams.  1981 301 turned into a mutt w/ a 1976 big car 400 & a TH 400.  But I love it, so that's all that matters.  Better than a Hyundai.
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« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2011, 11:07:14 PM »

the whole time there all i heard was theres another bandit t/a like yours here no mentioning of SE,W72,WS6 etc...

cant expect your ave joe to tell the diff, theyre lucky to tell its not a camaro
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« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2011, 10:29:28 AM »

'73 SD 4 speed is at the top of my list..... I guess I'll just have to be happy with my '70 for now.....
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« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2011, 06:22:54 PM »

the whole time there all i heard was theres another bandit t/a like yours here no mentioning of SE,W72,WS6 etc...

cant expect your ave joe to tell the diff, theyre lucky to tell its not a camaro
very true i have heard commets before from grown adults saying hey look at that camaro,  Shocked
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« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2011, 06:56:28 PM »

the whole time there all i heard was theres another bandit t/a like yours here no mentioning of SE,W72,WS6 etc...

cant expect your ave joe to tell the diff, theyre lucky to tell its not a camaro
very true i have heard commets before from grown adults saying hey look at that camaro,  Shocked

Yep, rememember most of us are Trans Am geeks...sad but true. My Trans Am is just a base 78 Black Trans Am and everyone thinks its a Bandit Car. When I had my 79 W72 car, non TA guys saw no difference in it or a 403 car. Its a Trans Am with a big chicken on the hood and nothing more to them.


I admit I know very little differencees between 69 Camaros and such.
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« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2011, 07:29:45 PM »

78 se with fisher t-tops has to be the rarest and most desirable of the cars  made in your 75 and up question about the most valuable.

was it 21 or 23 cars made? I forget the exact number, but that's got to be the one, IMHO.
LOL

Most desireable of all, to me, has to be the 73 SD's. (Red followed by Green or vice versa, LOL)

The 69's are ok, but were junkers when I was a kid, we all wanted the 2nd gen cars or 68 and up GTO's.

It just depends on what you experienced as a kid I guess.
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« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2011, 08:22:27 PM »

And all this time I thought my 77 hard top L78/auto was the most desired... O'well... it makes me happier then a possum eating snot...
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« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2011, 08:45:32 PM »

Wasn't there a poll on this site, asking this same question? i was surprised to see all the hype on the later 70s cars.( maybe cause there were so many built.) I'm still partial to the 70-73 cars.
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