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Samari

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Build sheet locations
« on: February 03, 2010, 01:57:12 AM »
I have pulled the back seats looking for my car's build sheet but to no avail - any other ideas where it has a chance of being? If someone else hasn't yanked it first of course.

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Re: Build sheet locations
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2010, 01:17:18 PM »
This should be a sticky topic, and I will make it so when I finish typing here.

There is no guarantee that your car will contain its buildsheet.  There is a chance it may contain another build sheet, for another car.  However, it is fairly common to find a build sheet.  I would say there is a better than 50% chance you will find one.

The main locations are:
  • Inside the backrest of the back seat (Norwood seems to prefer this)
  • Under the back seat
  • On top of the gas tank
  • In the springs under a front seat
  • literally anywhere else in the interior, like under the carpet or behind a finish panel

When you find a build sheet, you should determine whether it is for your car, or a car built on the same day as your car.  If your back seat has been replaced, there's a chance you'll find a build sheet from a totally unrelated car.
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Re: Build sheet locations
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2010, 03:20:02 PM »
I found a total of three build sheets with my car.

One was under the front seat pinched between the wires and foam bun...was about half gone
One was on top of the gas tank adhered by the tar strip...was about half gone
The last was found behind the back seat back, pinched between the wiring and the foam...absolutely PERFECT!

Found numerous other things like "ok" tags and such...I assume from inspections...
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Re: Build sheet locations (70-81)
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2010, 11:40:02 AM »
I've been picking build sheets (or looking for them) in these birds for 30 years & have made the following observations.

  If you have a 78-81 Van Nuys build,the odds are pretty good that you will find one.
 MOST of those had 3. (under front seat support wires,behind rear seat back rest & above gas tank)

 Early Van Nuys build (70-71) will generally have one on top of the gas tank.


 Early 70-73 Norwood build sheets are few & far between. (behind back seat back rest is where I've found a few)

  74-81 Norwood build sheets seem to be a bit more common & the newer the year the more likely you will find one (and ONLY one)  Behind back seat backrest or tucked under back end of carpet are the likely locations.

 Consider yourself LUCKY if you have a build sheet for your Norwood bird.

 I have looked in lots of Camero's,as well & the locations are the same.

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where to find the buildsheet
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2013, 02:24:15 PM »
On a trans am/firebird does the year of the car determine where you will find the build sheet?
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Re: where to find the buildsheet
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2013, 02:27:38 PM »
no. date makes no difference
check the sticky at top of number crunching for locations
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Re: Build sheet locations
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2013, 10:17:33 PM »
I have a few build sheets from a few of the old T/A's if anyone is interested.
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Re: Build sheet locations
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2013, 01:24:08 PM »
I have a few build sheets from a few of the old T/A's if anyone is interested.

What TAs did you have??
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Re: Build sheet locations
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2013, 01:42:59 PM »
I have owned 17 now over the years.... I believe the ones I have are out of 77 thru 81's.   I will pull them and see.
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Re: where to find the buildsheet
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2013, 10:07:46 AM »
Common places to find the build sheet are in the doors, under the front seat or behind the back seat, or on top of the gas tank.  Build sheets were never meant to be left in the cars, they just ended up there because workers on the assembly line were supposed to discard the sheets after completing their part of the build...it was quicker to "tuck" it in the car than go find a trashcan!
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Re: where to find the buildsheet
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2013, 01:44:57 PM »
On a trans am/firebird does the year of the car determine where you will find the build sheet?

no, but some say the build location does (CA./ OH.)
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Re: Build sheet locations
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2013, 05:53:28 PM »
I just bought a pristine, original 1998 WS6.  It has the below sticker on the driver's side door.  Is this the same as a build sheet?  If yes, where can I find the key to decode it?  If not would it be in the same locations as other paper build sheets?  Also, have not found a site that decodes the 4th Gen VIN.  Most stop after 2nd Gen or 3rd.


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Re: Build sheet locations
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2013, 06:12:23 PM »
The build sheets were something used on the assembly line.  that sticker is intended for the owner and people doing service, to know what the car is supposed to have on it.  I would say that the service manual would just about have to decode that, but I don't have a 4th gen.

The common point between that sticker and build sheets is they both had a bunch of RPO codes on them, and as such, they contain about the same information about options.  The build sheet has a bunch of other stuff too, that you'd need to build a car, like what springs to put on.
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2013, 06:38:53 PM »
The build sheets were something used on the assembly line... The build sheet has a bunch of other stuff too, that you'd need to build a car, like what springs to put on.

Okay, guess I'll be trying to find the build sheet.  I'd like to hear from others as to where these have been found in 98-02 from Canada assembly.

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Re: Build sheet locations
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2013, 08:34:56 PM »
If the '98-'02 cars were built at the same St. Therese plant as the '93-'97 cars, I read on some LS1/LT1 forum that only one build sheet copy was left with the car and it was included in the "owner's packet" (manual, warranty booklet, etc).   As an ex-owner of a '94 T/A, Z28 conv't, and '95 Z, I can tell you that none of these cars had build sheets -- I completely removed/replaced the interiors in them (including headliner/carpet) and nope: nothing.

Of all the cars I've disassembled at the scrapyard, one Camaro had a build sheet: it was folded up with the owner's manual.  It's not like the cool GMAD build sheets the 2nd (& some 3rd) gen cars have.
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Re: Build sheet locations
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2014, 04:29:52 PM »
Found the build sheet for my 1979 TA on Monday when I pulled off the gas tank to replace with a new one.  Not the greatest condition but does answer one question, full size of compact spare. 
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Re: Build sheet locations
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2014, 06:00:51 AM »
Found mine on trans tunnel in front of shifter.  Toasted but pretty well preserved.


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Re: Build sheet locations
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2014, 06:03:34 AM »
Welcome to TAC!

I bet you were happy to find that.  I have never heard of finding one there before.
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1978 Redbird 305
1979 Redbird 301 4-speed
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Re: Build sheet locations
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2014, 09:57:47 AM »
First time I have seen or heard of one being found in that location. Congratulations!
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Re: Build sheet locations
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2014, 02:54:41 PM »
Is there a way to look up a "build sheet" by search a VIN number?

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Re: Build sheet locations
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2014, 04:20:46 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2014, 05:03:32 PM »
Is there a way to look up a "build sheet" by search a VIN number?

No.  

However, PHS-online.com will sell you a copy of your invoice for about $70 or $80.  It's well worth it if the car has any collector desirability.  Pontiacs are really advantaged in the area of factory documentation.  

The invoice shows what options were invoiced to the dealer, colors, dates, where it went.  There are some limitations on what you can find out that way, but very few.  Some options that did not cost money are not shown in some years.  The only serious problem with that I am aware of is that you can't identify a 1978 4-speed transmission because they did not cost anything on a T/A.  On other years that I have owned, the invoice showed "4 speed transmission - No charge".    Anything that cost money, though, it'll be there.
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1978 Redbird 305
1979 Redbird 301 4-speed
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Re: Build sheet locations
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2014, 05:06:29 PM »
While waiting for the new upolstery, I thought I'd remove the remaining original seat upolstery and prepare the frames.  I'd already torn down and prepared the driver's seat quite some time ago.  Though my hopes for finding the build sheet were dashed months ago, it always left a small hole in the experience.  Well, low and behold, when cutting the hog rings on the rear passenger seat, look what I found stuck under a spring!!! 



I've never been so thrilled to find a scrap of paper before today!!!!  :lol:

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« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2014, 06:33:22 PM »
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« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2014, 08:46:42 PM »
seems like it had the rare control arm option

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« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2018, 10:07:56 AM »
Hi,
My newly acquired 78 Trans Am had a build sheet under the fuel tank (actually about 70% readable), one behind the rear seat back cushion, (in very good condition) and remnants of one under the drivers seat bottom cushion (in pieces).  This was a California built car.
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« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2018, 01:59:47 PM »
Welcome to TAC, you scored the trifecta with that one. Pics of the car or it didn't happen.
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Re: Build sheet locations
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2018, 09:21:39 PM »
My 79 was the same except the one on the tank was maybe 30% legible but not removable  and the one under the drivers seat was 90% used for a mouse nest... Thank goodness the one in the rear seat was almost perfect.
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Re: Build sheet locations
« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2019, 02:43:53 PM »
2manyT/AS & ALL ~

I feel LUCKY !  My '79 TA from the Norwood plant ~

>> I found my build sheet tucked behind the back seat. :)   
>> And it is a "WS7 Spec Handling"  (WS6 w/o rear disc brakes)   

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« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2019, 03:33:04 AM »
Nice...mine never surfaced...if it was every above the gas tank then the first winter it saw would have destroyed it and I haven't removed the upholstery to see if it was hiding in there

cool find...always exciting
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Re: Build sheet locations
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2019, 09:06:53 PM »
Nexus,    behind the seat is the #1 location to find it I believe.

You should look. There is fbody warehouse video on tips/trick to get seats out easily.

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« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2019, 09:46:25 PM »
I can't imagine not digging for it.  Even on junk cars, we hunted the build sheet the first thing.
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1978 Skybird 350
1978 Redbird 305
1979 Redbird 301 4-speed
1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC/SE (red)
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1953 Chevy pickup (converted 4x4)
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Re: Build sheet locations
« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2019, 01:22:12 PM »
Nexus,    behind the seat is the #1 location to find it I believe.

You should look. There is fbody warehouse video on tips/trick to get seats out easily.

Lol...the seats have been out for almost 20 years...its not anywhere visible...my last option, and I doubt its there is to remove the upholstery.

To my understanding, a lot of canadian cars had the build sheet above the gas tank...if that's the case with mine, then it has long gone!!

I did a lot of hunting with the cars I've owned and I have only 1 build sheet from an 81 if I remember correctly...been awhile...When it warms up I will look through my current parts car to see what it reveals.
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Re: Build sheet locations
« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2019, 08:37:19 PM »

The main locations are:
  • Inside the backrest of the back seat (Norwood seems to prefer this)
  • Under the back seat
  • On top of the gas tank
  • In the springs under a front seat
  • literally anywhere else in the interior, like under the carpet or behind a finish panel
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Re: Build sheet locations
« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2019, 08:28:49 AM »
Norwood cars tend to have the build sheet in the back seat.  California cars tend to have one on the gas tank, but if you're lucky, they'll have one in a seat too.  The gas tank ones aren't very good.
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1977 Y82 4-speed (red interior)
1978 Skybird 350
1978 Redbird 305
1979 Redbird 301 4-speed
1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC/SE (red)
1970 Datsun Pickup
1953 Chevy pickup (converted 4x4)
1988 T-bird Turbo Coupe

Re: Build sheet locations
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