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70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« on: February 17, 2008, 08:19:13 PM »
I've had the car for almost a year now and progress has gone much slower than I had hoped. I've got the engine running and just finished the gauges. The dash bezel that is in the now is temporary because I am making a carbon fiber one to replace it. I can now get it loaded on a trailer and have the exaust system installed. Once that is done, I will start on the body. Here are pics from the beginning through today.

















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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2008, 08:31:07 PM »
Looks great, I ready like the dash gauge lights. Where did you get the silver paint for under the hood.
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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2008, 09:09:49 PM »
Looking good!
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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2008, 09:13:44 PM »
You've been busy!  It looks good.  A couple of questions -- was that an aftermarket AC unit under the dash under the steering wheel?  And what did you do with the original dash plate?  Those were unique to 1970 IIRC and you might get some $$ for it from somebody wanting to do a 100 pt resto. :?:

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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2008, 09:18:15 PM »
Looks great, I ready like the dash gauge lights. Where did you get the silver paint for under the hood.

The silver is actually Dodge silver pearl. I bought ut at the local automotive paint store.

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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2008, 10:23:33 PM »
Nice pics. Looks like it will be a very nice car when finished. :cool:

Gives me a good kick in the butt to get my clone t/a going.  :grin:
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2008, 10:58:01 PM »
Looking good. I like how this is turning out.  8-)
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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2008, 11:51:50 PM »
i too am interested in more info about the "under dash a/c " that you have . did it work ? how did it hook up ? do you know where it came from ? what the name of it is , or maybe a p/n or who made it ?? besides that ,, mann that car is sweet  :cool: , what size tires/rims did you go with ? i like the way they look against the color of the car,, what mods did you do to the engine ? sorry for all the questions but im really likeing what i see so far !!!
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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2008, 05:14:09 PM »
Hey, looking good......I love the dash set up.  :cool:
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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2008, 05:34:27 PM »
looking very nice.
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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2008, 06:34:17 PM »
You've been busy!  It looks good.  A couple of questions -- was that an aftermarket AC unit under the dash under the steering wheel?  And what did you do with the original dash plate?  Those were unique to 1970 IIRC and you might get some $$ for it from somebody wanting to do a 100 pt resto. :?:

I am saving all the origanal parts from the car and have not hacked up the origanal wire harness. I did have to hack the dash up a little in order to get the gauges in though. I believe the A/C was a dealer installed unit.

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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2008, 07:02:52 PM »
i too am interested in more info about the "under dash a/c " that you have . did it work ? how did it hook up ? do you know where it came from ? what the name of it is , or maybe a p/n or who made it ?? besides that ,, mann that car is sweet  :cool: , what size tires/rims did you go with ? i like the way they look against the color of the car,, what mods did you do to the engine ? sorry for all the questions but im really likeing what i see so far !!!


  I really dont know much about the A/C, but I believe it was dealer installed. I did not like the installation of the giant one piston compressor and the lines were all rotted. I am going to replace it with a Vintage air unit. I saw on there website that they offer an under dash unit that looks similer to this one.
  The wheels and tires are TT2's. Front 275/40 17 on 9 1/2" wide wheels. Rear 315/35 17 on 11 1/2" wide wheel. I don't remember the back spacing off hand, but I will look when I have the wheels off next time.
  The engine is the original stock 350 w/only 25k miles. I put a comp cams cam kit in and edelbrock performer intake and 4brl carb. I put a shift kit in the TH350 trannie for a little kick pants when shifting. :-D Considering the factory numbers and the mods I've made, I'm hoping to hit 300 hp on reg octane fuel. It won't be a real screamer right now, but should be fun to drive.
  I am going to go ahead and start the bodywork and paint it next. Then interior and finally the suspension. I know this order seems strange, but I've been down this road before. I've built a couple of good handling fast cars but never got to the body and interior before I burnt out and sold them. This time, after I finish the paint and interior, I will look at more performance up grades.

  I am going to paint it Viper GTS Blue with a white TA stripe.

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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2008, 10:44:09 PM »
Wow, that's a lot of wheel and tire.  I'm very interested in the back space specs and if you see any clearance issues at this point.
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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2008, 06:40:27 AM »
Your car looks awesome! please post more pic of the wheels and tires!
Thanks!
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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2008, 11:25:15 PM »
Is the lighting for your gauges a Photoshop trick or is it really that bright?

I have a similar setup I've been assembling (more like procrastinating) for awhile now just haven't decided on bulbs. I don't really like the white, and them in red is way too dim.

Did you change the bulbs over to LED's?


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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2008, 11:07:59 PM »
POST MORE PICS, MAN THATS LOOKING GOOD ..I FINALLY FOUND A T/A WEBSITE
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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2008, 11:19:29 PM »
Welcome to TAC SD396! Post up some pics when you get a chance.  :D
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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #17 on: February 29, 2008, 09:51:35 PM »
Is the lighting for your gauges a Photoshop trick or is it really that bright?

I have a similar setup I've been assembling (more like procrastinating) for awhile now just haven't decided on bulbs. I don't really like the white, and them in red is way too dim.

Did you change the bulbs over to LED's?




They are really that Bright. They are Auto Meter C2 gauges and the entire face lights up blue like the endeglow watches. I will have to get another dimer switch to tone them down a little.
  You may want to try blue LED's in yours. The one's I have seen give a really nice effect.

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« Reply #18 on: February 29, 2008, 09:55:07 PM »
POST MORE PICS, MAN THATS LOOKING GOOD ..I FINALLY FOUND A T/A WEBSITE
THANKS GUYS ..AWSOME CAR MAN  IM CLONING MINE ALSO


Welcome and thanks. I will take a few more pics this weekend and get them posted.

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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #19 on: February 29, 2008, 10:04:27 PM »
Lookin real good crazy81, really good.  Kudos on your build partner!

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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2008, 04:26:10 PM »
I pulled it out of the garage and took a couple of shots this afternoon.







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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2008, 04:29:14 PM »
I love that wheel tire combo. What sizes and offsets are they? What tire sizes. Really looks like it going to be a sweet ride when your finished.
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« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2008, 10:13:22 AM »
very very cooll

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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2008, 08:54:15 PM »
Coming along nicely! Keep up the good work.  8-)
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« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2008, 07:32:35 PM »
Lookin real good!!
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Re: 70 Bird Formula Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2009, 08:35:47 PM »
  I started stripping the paint and found a few spots that need work. Here's a few pics of the progress so far.

 I started on the drivers side front quarter.





















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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2009, 08:44:33 PM »
Nice car!!  That Bird is looking great!!
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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2009, 09:01:08 PM »
  The next part to deal with was the rear drivers side. It was crunched in pretty good. I really didn't want to cut on it, but the dent pullers wouldn't touch it.

 






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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2009, 10:46:23 PM »
Looks great.  This TA is just my style.  I am still working on mine, but slowly.  Your progress is smoking me.  Great work. 

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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2009, 12:27:29 AM »
crazy81,
Nice work all around- I like your attention to detail, especially in the engine bay. Did you make that harness for the Autometer gauges yourself? Does your gauge harness connect to the factory fuse box? I have Ultralites and would like to wire them similar to yours if possible.

I also noticed you used patch panels with the electrocoated primer- could you comment on the quality of the pieces and their thickness compared to the factory panels? I'd like to keep as much of the factory metal on my 'Bird as well.

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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2009, 01:13:00 AM »
Very cool!!!  Love the rim/tire choice!  Thanks for teh update/pics!

Later,

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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2009, 06:03:17 PM »
crazy81,
Nice work all around- I like your attention to detail, especially in the engine bay. Did you make that harness for the Autometer gauges yourself? Does your gauge harness connect to the factory fuse box? I have Ultralites and would like to wire them similar to yours if possible.

I also noticed you used patch panels with the electrocoated primer- could you comment on the quality of the pieces and their thickness compared to the factory panels? I'd like to keep as much of the factory metal on my 'Bird as well.

Geno



Thanks for all the nice comments.

  Geno, I did make my own gauge harness. I bought a 16 pin connector ( I think it was 16) from JEGS. I tied it into the factory harness by removing the pins from the factory conector. I then soldered the wires to the base of the factory pin and the other end of the wire goes to the jegs connector. This way, if someone wants to put it back to origanal, it won't be a problem. All the wires run through one connector so the panel is easy to remove.
  On the patch panels, I was not real impressed with quality. They are noticably thinner. I bought full partial quarters and cut out what I needed. Looking down the quarter panel, they are pretty wavey and would require a fair amount of filler to get them straight. That is why I decided to just patch in what I needed.




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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2009, 09:14:14 PM »
I would have never thought of that until you did it and posted the pics- nice work. I wish I had bought the 2" auxiliary gauges, but I already had the 2 5/8" dia. H20 temp and Oil pres gauges so I just bought the rest- going to be hard fitting them in the stock dash faceplate (was originally going to remove the dash and put a NASCAR-style aluminum gauge panel in there).

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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2009, 09:52:13 PM »
Very nice work. Following this thread with great interest.

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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2009, 02:19:11 PM »
That gauge setup is awesome 8-).  I know you said you made the wiring yourself, but i would like to do that to my car also.  I like how it lights up like that.  I am not that familiar with aftermarket gauges and jegs performance, would you mind hooking me up with a parts list of what you all bought to achieve that setup with your gauges.

Nice car, keep the pictures coming, my 71 T/A won't be seeing life for a while yet :sad:.  I have a 77 SE clone with 99 TA seats and i think that gauge setup would look awesome. 

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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2009, 02:41:05 PM »
Great job on the build, the whole car looks great.  What are the tire and wheel sizes?

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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #36 on: December 27, 2009, 09:29:56 PM »
It's been awhile since my last post. I broke my elbow shortly after the last post and it shut my progress down for awhile. I'm back on it now so I'll give an update on my recent progress.

I cleaned the trunk pan and luckly it is very solid. there was only minor pitting with a few tiny pin holes. I taped the bottom of the the pin holes and put a heavy coat of por 15 on to fill. I then cleaned the bottom of the trunk area and por 15ed it followed with undercoating.









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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #37 on: December 27, 2009, 10:43:48 PM »
Wow man, thats an awesome car you have there. I like the steam rollers you have for shoes also. You have put some serious
labor in your ride, or is someone else building it for you?? Very nice. :shock: :shock: :shock:

How much did you pay to have your dash built??  I like that also.
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Re: 70 Bird TA Clone Project (many pics)
« Reply #38 on: December 28, 2009, 08:53:57 AM »
Thanks for the pics on the VSE mod....I've been saving a few of them so I get it right, lol.  :grin:
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