TAC Spotlight => Projects & Restorations => Topic started by: rkellerjr on September 18, 2021, 07:45:14 AM

Title: Starting Interior restoration
Post by: rkellerjr on September 18, 2021, 07:45:14 AM
First parts to arrive, seats are going to local upholsterer in October.  Interior is going black.
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Post by: Jack on September 18, 2021, 07:52:59 AM
Looking forwards to seeing some progress.
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Post by: TATurbo on September 21, 2021, 08:43:20 PM
So...Red w/Blk interior...Right?
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Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 22, 2021, 06:41:56 AM
It will be the inverse of your car Tom haha
Title: Re: Starting Interior restoration
Post by: rkellerjr on September 22, 2021, 01:42:04 PM
So...Red w/Blk interior...Right?

Yep
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Post by: 5th T/A on September 26, 2021, 08:51:51 AM
Rich,

Red with black interior should look good, nice contrast. This should be a good off season project.
Title: Re: Starting Interior restoration
Post by: rkellerjr on September 27, 2021, 02:35:16 PM
Rich,

Red with black interior should look good, nice contrast. This should be a good off season project.

I'm looking forward to finally getting it done. The only project left is air conditioning after this is completed this winter. Seats go to the upholsterer in three weeks. I'll start posting pics of the tear down and replacement in a few weeks when things get started.
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Post by: rkellerjr on September 29, 2021, 09:42:57 AM
It has begun...

1975 - 1981 Firebird or Trans Am Rear Side Plastic Panel Kit, Sail Panels and Arm Rest Side Panels, 4 Piece Set
1972 - 1977 Firebird Lower Door Panel Plastic Kit / Map Pockets, LH & RH Kit, Includes Arm Rest and Complete Hardware Set
New OE Style 1974 - 1981 Firebird and Trans Am Side Headliner Plastic Trim Molding, Pair
1975 - 1981 Firebird Seat Belts Set, Front and Rear with OE STYLE GM Push Buttons
1970 - 1981 Firebird and Trans Am Interior Kick Panel Set with Standard Speakers, Pair
1970 - 1981 Firebird Door Jamb Sill Plates Set, Body by Fisher Original Stick-On Tag, Pair
1974 - 1981 Firebird & Trans Am Sail Panel Coat Hanger Hook, Colors, Each
PANEL SET, Inside Door, Upper, Pre-Assembled, Dlx, Black, Incl Metal Garnish Rails, Windowfelts and Door Lock Ferrules Installed, Emblems Not Included
PLATE / EMBLEM, Front Door Trim Pad / Panel, *Bird*, red and black finish, correct Repro
STRAP, Door Panel Pull, Inner, Black, RH or LH, incl attaching mounts, backing plate and screws, repro
COVER, Front Door Pull Strap, Black
Title: Re: Starting Interior restoration
Post by: 5th T/A on September 29, 2021, 03:37:31 PM
Rich,

It’s great you can order a complete interior for a 40 - 50 year old car. While many parts could be painted or dyed, some plastic parts become very brittle and almost disintegrate with age. Should look great and might have that new car smell when finished.
Title: Re: Starting Interior restoration
Post by: rkellerjr on September 29, 2021, 07:56:03 PM
Rich,

It’s great you can order a complete interior for a 40 - 50 year old car. While many parts could be painted or dyed, some plastic parts become very brittle and almost disintegrate with age. Should look great and might have that new car smell when finished.

Funny that you said that, I was thinking it might have that new car smell too.  Yes, we are fortunate that all the plastic pieces are available to be replaced. I am painting some parts but most all parts will be new. Few weeks I'll start posting pics of the tear down and re-installation of the new parts.
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Post by: rkellerjr on October 08, 2021, 09:21:29 PM
Parts are a gathering...
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Post by: Wallington on October 09, 2021, 01:35:18 AM
Don't toss your original seatbelt retainers. Some interior parts are meant to be a perfect match, others are just a replacement, which is usually more than enough for those who's original parts are worn out or damaged, but stand out if assembled with NOS parts, and have random screw or lug locations incorrectly located. There can also be a loss of molding flash and seam lines to clean up if repainting plastic pieces, easily done, but many of the online shop experts simply paint and sell as crude recoloured items.
Title: Re: Starting Interior restoration
Post by: rkellerjr on October 09, 2021, 05:53:50 PM
We'll do, thanks.
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Post by: BBATCAR on October 10, 2021, 07:56:15 PM
Look forward to seeing your progress. Just changed my 1975 Trans Am to a Black interior. Most expense was my dashboard restoration and painting the metal windshield part of the dash.

I'm glad to see you are getting parts, I'm still waiting on my black door panels, ordered in December 2020 and still waiting from Year One. Drove to Classic Industries to pick up my black headliner that they just got into stock, so I'm getting close... Looks forward to your photos.
Title: Re: Starting Interior restoration
Post by: rkellerjr on October 10, 2021, 08:12:32 PM
Ordered mine from NPD, received a few days later.
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Post by: b_hill_86 on October 10, 2021, 08:37:34 PM
I’d be curious to see how those lower door panels fit. I need to replace mine at some point but I seem to remember reading somewhere that the repops take a bit of finesse to fit right mostly that thale holes don’t line up right. I hope that’s not the case though
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Post by: rkellerjr on October 11, 2021, 06:15:53 AM
We'll see, they look good in the plastic. My old ones are so bad they have to be replaced. Won't even hold paint. I'm good even if I have to finesse them a bit but, I'll step by step my installation once I get started next week.
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Post by: BBATCAR on October 11, 2021, 05:19:02 PM
Ordered mine from NPD, received a few days later.

Thanks, I'll look and see if they have stock, then cancel my other order if they do.
My lowers were just painted and fit good, my uppers are the ones I'm trying to replace...
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Post by: rkellerjr on October 16, 2021, 11:16:25 AM
Here we go...
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Post by: roadking77 on October 16, 2021, 03:13:46 PM
Youre all in now  :grin: I agree, it looks like time for an upgrade.
Title: Re: Starting Interior restoration
Post by: rkellerjr on October 30, 2021, 11:56:32 AM
OK, got busy today. Got the new package tray in. The seat belts I bought aren't the right ones, working with Firebird Central to figure that out. The new rear panels do not come with the ashtray cut outs so I created a template, measured, then got the old dremel out and cut out new holes for the rear ashtrays. Got the center console out. Next is pulling the dash then on to painting those parts I'm not replacing. Should get the seats back in a week or so and once I figure out the seat belts it can go back together.
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Post by: roadking77 on October 30, 2021, 04:55:52 PM
Looking good Rich, shame the seat belts didnt work out. Seems theres always something in the way to slow things.
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Post by: wheels78ta on October 30, 2021, 09:09:04 PM
That console looks like it's in very good shape.  Keep at it.  It's going to look awesome when done.

Can't wait to get to my interior.
Title: Re: Starting Interior restoration
Post by: rkellerjr on October 31, 2021, 09:29:25 AM
That console looks like it's in very good shape.  Keep at it.  It's going to look awesome when done.

Can't wait to get to my interior.

Ya, console is getting painted, not replaced :)
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Post by: rkellerjr on November 02, 2021, 02:26:50 PM
Well, Firebird Central will refund my money for the seat belts. They were totally understandable. But, now I need to find someone who can refurbish seat belts.
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Post by: rkellerjr on November 11, 2021, 03:12:47 PM
Well, things are getting close, just need to pull the dash, paint a few pieces and put it back together.
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Post by: 5th T/A on November 11, 2021, 03:24:48 PM
Rich,

Your moving right along. The seats look great! I don’t remember Firebird emblem on the front seats. Is that something you had custom made?
Title: Re: Starting Interior restoration
Post by: rkellerjr on November 11, 2021, 03:27:47 PM
Rich,

Your moving right along. The seats look great! I don’t remember Firebird emblem on the front seats. Is that something you had custom made?

Yes, I had them added. There is one in the middle of the back seat as well. I don't have an original car so, changing a few small things to my liking ;)
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Post by: roadking77 on November 11, 2021, 03:49:17 PM
I really like those seats. Where did you get them?
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Post by: rkellerjr on November 11, 2021, 05:41:41 PM
I really like those seats. Where did you get them?

Those are the seats that were in my car, just reupholstered to black
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Post by: roadking77 on November 12, 2021, 07:56:04 AM
Very nice.
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Post by: rkellerjr on November 20, 2021, 01:19:07 PM
More work on the car today, got the dash out and repaired. Next is to paint the dash and the .... cowl? part of the dash just under the windshield which, unfortunately, doesn't come out so I'll have to mask the windshield and painted it in place.  Here are some pics of today's work.
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Post by: roadking77 on November 21, 2021, 09:22:58 AM
Nice progress, what did you do with the dash?
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Post by: rkellerjr on November 21, 2021, 10:07:03 AM
Nice progress, what did you do with the dash?

I put a dash cap on it a couple years ago and didn't get enough glue on the edges so it warped a bit in the sun
 I just glued the edges and clamped it down so it doesn't do it again.
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Post by: ryeguy2006a on November 22, 2021, 11:37:55 AM
Interior is looking great Rich! I'd recommend SEM Trim Black for the metal dash.
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Post by: Jack on November 22, 2021, 12:36:25 PM
The seats came out very nice, I especially like the firebird logo.
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Post by: rkellerjr on November 27, 2021, 09:36:34 AM
Well more done but more challenges arise. Finished painting dash, cowl, and started rewiring utilizing plugs for the radio and speakers
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Post by: rkellerjr on December 12, 2021, 08:41:12 PM
Finally got the kick panel out behind the parking brake assembly, what a pita. Should make some really good progress next weekend.
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Post by: 76455sd on December 12, 2021, 10:00:16 PM
Coming along nicely.  Good work.  I like what you did with the seats.
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Post by: TATurbo on December 12, 2021, 10:47:32 PM
Looking good!  I also like the logos on the seat.
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Post by: rkellerjr on December 13, 2021, 07:00:17 AM
Thanks, the logos were an after thought and for just $45 a piece, well worth it.
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Post by: rkellerjr on December 29, 2021, 07:32:39 AM
More work completed, rear of car completed
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Post by: 5th T/A on December 29, 2021, 07:51:59 AM
Rich,

Everything you have done has turned out really well. When finished it will look brand new or better. I am assuming you replaced the foam when you did the seats. I  would be curious to hear how the seats feel once you start driving the car. If they feel better or more firm.
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Post by: roadking77 on December 29, 2021, 02:18:59 PM
Indeed does look nice.
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Post by: rkellerjr on December 29, 2021, 07:19:00 PM
Rich,

Everything you have done has turned out really well. When finished it will look brand new or better. I am assuming you replaced the foam when you did the seats. I  would be curious to hear how the seats feel once you start driving the car. If they feel better or more firm.

The foam was not replaced. The upholsterer said the foam was fine but would would bolster it so ya, it is thicker. I'm looking forward to sitting in it, I'll let you know
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Post by: rkellerjr on December 31, 2021, 02:55:36 PM
Got new original hick panels and got the drivers in and the parking brake system back together. Now I have to take the heater box out to get the other kick panel in. Grrr. Should be smooth sailing after that.
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Post by: rkellerjr on January 19, 2022, 08:16:50 AM
Work progresses slowly but in the home stretch, kick panels in and dash now in. Now to get motivated and finish this project.

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Post by: TATurbo on January 23, 2022, 10:07:30 PM
Congrats on the progress.  Be sure to seal up those kick panels well...I had to go back go back in a couple times 'cause I didn't know how important that goopy tar stuff was first time around.  The driver side leaked air bad enough that my left foot would get cold or hot depending on outside air temp, and the pass. side leaked like a sieve when I neglected to seal it first time around.   My passenger side still seeps a little water if I douse it while washing.
Good luck!

Can I ask...How far gone were your original red rear side panels?  We took a lot of time sanding and 'properly' refinishing ours...And they don't look terrible...but...there's room for improvement. Do you think your's might've been savable if you were staying red?
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Post by: rkellerjr on January 24, 2022, 03:26:29 PM
Can I ask...How far gone were your original red rear side panels?  We took a lot of time sanding and 'properly' refinishing ours...And they don't look terrible...but...there's room for improvement. Do you think your's might've been savable if you were staying red?

Basically all the plastic pieces were just gone. I had attempted to dye them several times with different methods and the paint would just peal off so all plastic pieces were replaced with new, I was done trying to make them work :)
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Post by: TATurbo on January 24, 2022, 09:50:41 PM
LOL, Thanks...Sounds like I'm walking that path now. Except I'm concerned about dying new black pieces red.

Again, congrats on the progress.  Keep at it.
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Post by: roadking77 on January 25, 2022, 08:06:32 AM
Sorry for the hijack again  :shock: But, Tom if you are dying the black panels red you may try to use a brown first. When painting walls red is one of the hardest colours to use as the base always bleeds through. We found the paint it brown first trick a few years ago and the red will cover with just a couple of coats.