TAC Central => Lobby => Topic started by: kentucky yeti on June 27, 2021, 06:24:29 AM
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Last year I bought a 50-acre farm about a mile from me. I grew up fishing in the pond there, and exploring the creek that runs through the farm. And a little hunting went on too. It is 34 tendable acres and 16 acres of woods. So, we began the process of pre-retirement planning. I'd like to put a house at the back of the place. That requires a 1400+ foot driveway. Baby steps started Friday.
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Started the driveway cutting with my new-to-me tractor I bought a week ago. Sold my Ford 4000 SU and bought a newer, more comfy tractor with a front end loader like I always wanted:
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My foot for reference LOL this JD has 36" pads. It dang near floats on loose and wet ground.
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Bringing my red gravel/clay rock for the base- one triaxle and one semi dump trailer load at a time
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This is where we hope to build and live out our lives. I've already broke a garden spot and planted a few fruit trees (had to put steel posts and fence around them to keep the deer from destroying them). You can barely see the neighbor's house ( that is in the previous pics) in this picture
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This is from the NW corner of the property. If you look past the second outcropping of trees that come into the field, you can see a small round green mound of dirt and weeds. That is now gone as the driveway went right through that spot. AND, if you look closely at the first outcropping of trees, you can see a tom turkey at the edge of the field.
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Mama and 4 half-grown coons
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Congratulations Mike, you sure got your work cut out for you but very exciting. Not many people are able to plan their retirement this way, very happy for you and will follow alone your progress.
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That is totally awesome. But that doesn't look like downsizing to me.... I only live on 6 acres and there is more than enough work for me now!
Congratulations, it looks lovely!
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x2 and 3. Looks like you have plenty to keep you busy for the next couple of years. When you first posted pics of your new tractor and mentioned the long drive you were putting in, my first thought was 'hes gonna need a bigger tractor'. But I see you have that taken care.
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Looks like you carved out your little slice of heaven Mike. Congratulations.
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Congratulations,
Looks like the start of a new life after already living one.
Good luck on your new adventure
JT
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Im jealous! lol
Looks like you're making great progress.
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Congratulations Mike,
Wishing you much happiness and good health with your new place. With that much real estate that new tractor should get plenty of use.
When you mentioned 1400 foot driveway I thought a quarter mile is 1320 feet, really puts the length into perspective. Then I thought you could do accelerations runs on your driveway and not worry about breaking any laws.
Enjoy!
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x2 and 3. Looks like you have plenty to keep you busy for the next couple of years. When you first posted pics of your new tractor and mentioned the long drive you were putting in, my first thought was 'hes gonna need a bigger tractor'. But I see you have that taken care.
Here's what I disked the place up with. Big enough? :lol: Thank goodness for nice neighbors that farm for a living 8-)
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Got me a little JD 350 with a clamshell bucket. It needs new hydraulic hoses before I can work it hard. The old ones are leaking bad.
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Nice machines. Theres an Amish right up the road from me that makes hydraulic lines. Last ones he did for me were about 1/2 of what Case wanted. Some larger trucking co.s make them in house as well. If you have someone like that in your area.
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Looks like a little slice of heaven. And flat. That guy with the disc is not appalachian farming.
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Looking good Mike!
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Party at Yeti's house.
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Wow, congrats Mike, looks like we could have some car shows on that lot :D
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Okay Mike now that TAC is up, we all are expecting a big update.
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All the rain here (over 8 inches total so far) means no dirt work. I bought a 700 Polaris.
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And managed to get the 40’ culvert installed at the road
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That’s a heck of a retirement plan. Are you going to work the property, or lease it to a neighbour?
I sure hope all that work you put into your current place comes back to you in extra value when you sell and move. Good luck with it, Mike.
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That’s a heck of a retirement plan. Are you going to work the property, or lease it to a neighbour?
I sure hope all that work you put into your current place comes back to you in extra value when you sell and move. Good luck with it, Mike.
Leigh. I'm not sure yet. I may end up sowing it down and pasturing it. Fence it and get a few cows. Rent a few acres out to the horse-raising neighbor across from me.
As for my place- I hope it does ok too. The house and 5 acres, the 28x82 insulated, wired, LP gas plumbed, and plumbed-for-water garage, and the fruit trees/blueberries/blackberries/grapevines will hopefully appeal to someone.
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Nice Polaris, I do work for a guy that has a couple on his 'farm'. He would drive into town a few miles on that thing. I was surprised at how fast it would go.
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Working on the place clearing brush. I see these guys every afternoon. There are 4 decent bucks in this pic. There are at least 3 6 points or smaller besides these gentlemen. And most afternoons I see at least 16 does in their own group on the north side of the property
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You have an interesting version of retirement.... most slow down, you, you speed up!
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You have an interesting version of retirement.... most slow down, you, you speed up!
I don’t know but I’ve been told… you never slow down, you never grow old. The late Tom Petty
Anyway- it ain’t work if you enjoy it lol
Just trying to prepare for (hopefully) a 2022 retirement.
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Anyway- it ain’t work if you enjoy it lol
That's the key.
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Working on the place clearing brush. I see these guys every afternoon. There are 4 decent bucks in this pic. There are at least 3 6 points or smaller besides these gentlemen. And most afternoons I see at least 16 does in their own group on the north side of the property
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Hey! Do I see Bambis mother in there? :shock: :lol:
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A major setback after work this afternoon. Had a little fire. I've been working on my future retirement (maybe retirement, but getting doubtful as the bills increase and the budget disappears) piece of land for a while. Most of the driveway is in. I had some brush to clear, and the rotary mower will take down and grind up trees up to 4" diameter. I'm not sure what happened. The smell of burning rubber, then seeing smoke exiting behind the machine, was the first clue. Got it out of the woods (barely) and emptied the fire extinguisher, then all the water bottles. It almost worked, but then popped back up and I had nothing else. It quickly hit the fuel line, I suppose. It really began burning. It is totalled, but I did manage to get the brush mower hooked to a chain and used my truck to yank it away from the Bobcat. 81 turbocharged horsepower. Gone. No idea if it is covered under the farm policy until tomorrow.
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Wow Mike, I am so sorry to see this. I hope insurance takes care of it and glad (I assume) no one was injured.
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Well, it was a valiant effort Mike. Not much more you (or anyone else) could've done. It's too bad you lost a great piece of machinery, but like mentioned above, things could've been a whole lot worse. At least you can replace that. Good luck with the ins.
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So sorry to see this hopefully insurance will cover it.
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OH WOW!! Thats horrible. Glad you saved the mower at least. Hope you have luck with your insurance. Looks like it was a pretty good machine. Not cheap to replace.
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Any word from the insurance company?
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Any word from the insurance company?
No one contacted me back to come out today.
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Any word from the insurance company?
No bueno. Insurance said that it should have been specifically named in my policy, as well as the tractor, track loader, side-by-side, etc... I assumed the farm/ranch policy covered equipment automatically. No one ever once told me they needed a specific list. Total loss. Sold it today for scrap metal price.
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Insurance company's are some of the worst businesses out there. You pay them your whole life, and when you put in a claim, (1 time), they find excuses not to pay, or drop you if they have to. They always find a loop hole to cover themselves. It's their job. Sorry again for your loss.
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I'm very sorry to hear Mike, I was hoping for a different outcome.
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That stinks. Yes, you think you are covered then all of the sudden......... I am in the review process with my agent currently as my policies come up for renewal in Sept. I havent looked at things for about 5 years. Time to sit down and talk and see where things stand. Mikes situation is a good example for everyone to at least check in with their agent every couple of years. Most of us, me included just send in the payment when the bill is due.
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More important to check if you made improvements, including building decks or garages... me included, the policy will go up but thats life.
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darn, Mike.....that’s really bad news....both the loss and the insurance.
Best ask them what else needs to be “specifically listed”.
I hope you can find another one.......
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Sorry to hear Mike... Glad to hear that you made it out safely though. Really a shame about the insurance. They can be less than helpful most of the time.
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darn, Mike.....that’s really bad news....both the loss and the insurance.
Best ask them what else needs to be “specifically listed”.
I hope you can find another one.......
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And a cautionary tale for all of us, there are often other items/possessions that an insurance company may or will deny or that have limits on a standard home owners policy. You often don’t find out till making a claim, that unless it is disclosed before hand(and then they may ask for a premium) certain items will not be covered.
Eg. Mechanics tools(especially if you earn money with them), jewelry, bicycles all might have much lower limits than you would expect.
It’s worth asking your agent/ broker what needs separate coverage and documenting what you have, make a video record of your tools and any expensive items.
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Working afternoons this week so doing a little in the 110* humidity before work. The driveway has a soft spot from an old pond, so I now have rented a mini trackhoe to dig the spot out and fill it with larger rock, then recover it with red gravel.
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I'm happy to see progress. Life would not be interesting without few hiccups.
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Really sorry to hear about your equipment, however I’m glad to hear you are okay.
Jim
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After the fire setback, I am finally rolling again. Cutting a hill down 3 feet, storing the topsoil for later use, and filling in the backyard area so as to have a gentle slope, and not a downhill ski slope!
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Man, you have some nice equipment Mike. And land too. Ahhh the country life. :)
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Man, you have some nice equipment Mike. And land too. Ahhh the country life. :)
That dozer, tractor and pan aren't mine. They are $150/hour each, for the running time on the hourmeter :shock:
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Man, you have some nice equipment Mike. And land too. Ahhh the country life. :)
That dozer, tractor and pan aren't mine. They are $150/hour each, for the running time on the hourmeter :shock:
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The steep backyard is now a nice slope for water to run off, but easy to mow without using a 4wd :lol:
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Nice grading job.
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Not cheap but sure make it look easy. Nice job.
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Leveled out and ready for a footer!
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You're living my dream! Happy to see it coming together for ya
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Q: what is more rare than a ‘73 SD Formula?
A: right now it is a meter base
Been trying for a couple weeks to source one, either online in in any of the 5 states around me, with no luck. Currently there is a 22-week waiting list. Saturday afternoon one of the major suppliers listed 7 just added to their stock. By the time I had my info typed in, there was 1 left. A few seconds later, inventory was zero. It arrived yesterday and after work, I installed it. Finally got a 400 amp meter base with 2- 200 amp mains and 4/8 slots for secondary breakers. The door on the right fits flush- it lowers to unlatch and open; I don’t have it closed. That is why it is lower than the left side door. And I still have to cut the posts off to make them even.
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Is that service for your new 50K Sq/Ft garage? Or a new pole barn for your livestock?
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Is that service for your new 50K Sq/Ft garage? Or a new pole barn for your livestock?
The 400 amp base has two separate 200 amp feeds. One 200 will go to the house (if it ever gets built) and the other 200 to my shop (again, if it ever gets built). I got off work this afternoon and spent 4 hours digging down 3 full feet for the long sweep 90* conduit to the meter base. Hasn't rained in a month and there are roots everywhere ( I installed it at the edge of the woods like a dummy). Pick/shovel/post hole digger. Finally got it dug. I'll connect it tomorrow afternoon. It's dark now and I'm hot and tired anyway.
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You're lucky that you can do the work yourself, years ago they use to allow home owners around here to pull their own electric permit and do the work themselves but no more. Here in MA you have to be licensed in the the field that you are doing work in order to pull a permit.
Since the hard part was digging a trench I would strongly recommend that you include a spare conduit... PVC is cheap, digging in the future because of an issue not so fun.
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Mike, I apologize in advance for asking but I'm assuming you accounted for voltage drop and upsizing the conductors. Not knowing the house/shop arrangement the run could be long.
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Mike, I apologize in advance for asking but I'm assuming you accounted for voltage drop and upsizing the conductors. Not knowing the house/shop arrangement the run could be long.
The house is a short run- about 70 feet from the meter base to the garage wall that will have the 200 amp breaker box. It gets a single upsize since it will be aluminum wire instead of copper feeding the panel. The shop is just over 160’ from the meter base, and will be upsized two sizes. One upsize is obviously for using aluminum wire to the shop, and second is due to the length of the run from meter base to the 200 amp panel in the shop.
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I’ve been MIA for the past two weeks. I’ve been on my annual 10-day backpack trip in the Colorado Rockies. I’m no longer sure how many more times I can do this :( as I seem to age every year 😆. Before I left I called the electrical inspector for a service permit. I’m happy to say my work got the green sticker so now the electric company is in the process of running wire 1460 feet, from the road to my meter base. Hopefully that happens this week, as they have been there and marked the route they are going.
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Also, the man I called about drilling a well said that he Would be there next month. I told him where I wanted it. I came home to this yesterday.
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It’s beginning to come together somewhat.
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And… they are running fiber internet in my county! Even back in the extreme rural area where I live. I saw them two weeks ago, and pleaded with them to run it to the field where I plan to build. They said they only did existing homes, but this is now in my field beside the driveway. It has their name in it and a fiber connector inside. So I guess I’m getting high speed one day!
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Mike, I'm happy for you. It really is coming together. :cool:
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Utilities is a big step forward, can't wait to see what's next.
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Utilities is a big step forward, can't wait to see what's next.
Hopefully the shop! He is running behind (like everyone else) because of the weather and the fact that no one comes to work anymore.
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BTW- if anyone’s dream is to move to a humid area 😂 in western Kentucky, my 3 br, 2 bath sitting on 5 acres will be listed soon. I can’t afford to build the new house without selling mine 😞 first. 28 x 82 garage with water, propane gas, electric throughout, and insulated. Overhead is floored and lighted for storage of car parts 😆 4 doors with garage door openers. House is over 400 feet off the backroad. Fruit trees, mature hardwoods and I’ll throw in my newest ExMark ztr mower (still under factory warranty).
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Good progress Mike, That was good luck on getting the panels. When the electrician was doing my shop he went to the supply house and got the same story about parts. The salesman went into the back and found 1 panel which became mine. Humid? Ha, try the mid-atlantic! I should take you up on the house offer, that way my shipping prices from you will come down, LOL.
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Just had a chance to follow up on your progress, Mike. I must say, you’re charging into the project.
Levelling out the area for the build makes it look so much better.
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Looking great Mike! Keep chipping away and you'll be well on your way.
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Working midnights this week. I got off this morning and drove by the place, just to look. Lo and behold, looks like I’ll be getting me some of that there newfangled electricity out here in the sticks. In just over two hours, they set 4 new poles, two guy wires, and strung electricity overhead 900 feet to a new transformer. Now I’m waiting on the underground crew to bring my power down the pole and into my 400 amp service/meter base.
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Not being one to sit around, while they did that- I began the process of starting new fruit trees (I hate to leave my blackberries and blueberries/several fruit trees/grapevines, etc… when I sell my house). So today, cherry, pear, plum trees were planted and got posts and wire around them to keep the deer from destroying them.
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This is such a great read! Congratulations! Everything seems to be moving fairly smoothly. I really enjoyed the building process when we built our homestead over 10 years ago.
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Indeed, this is a good thread and I am happy for Mike as he is moving forward. As far as enjoying the process Luke, building for the last 40+ years I say that 'I dont need any more practice'. I cant honestly say I enjoy doing it as much as a means to the end at this point. I hope I never have to build myself another home. My next move will be into something already built.
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Poles and fruit trees, this is getting better each time I check.
I'm curious about the poles and why the utility company didn't go underground, do they intend to power other lots from the same transformer? Or maybe the portion that they do is above ground and yours below ground?
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Jack, I agree. Just about everything new in my area is underground. The only time poles are put up is to replace existing.
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Poles and fruit trees, this is getting better each time I check.
I'm curious about the poles and why the utility company didn't go underground, do they intend to power other lots from the same transformer? Or maybe the portion that they do is above ground and yours below ground?
Jack, I am building near the back (the road is the west boundary) , but almost dead center north to south, on 50 acres. They would have went underground all the way from the road if I would have paid $6.50 per foot for it. Nearly 1400 feet from the road made it almost $9100. As it is- they agreed to run overhead for free to the tree line (about 900 feet). From there I pay for underground to my meter base, and then of course from the base it splits to my house and to my shop. They used a larger transformer (50kVa, I believe he said) as basically I would be powering two separate 200-amp services). But there are no plans to sell lots or add anyone else to the property. Of course, we never know what the future holds. But ideally, I had rather not have neighbors unless down the road, finances dictate that I sell part of the property.
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50kVA = 208 Amps. around here they use that size to power 4-5 average sized homes. But it's good to have your own transformer, they will adjust the wire size and taps for your property so you'll never have an issue.
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Laid out this morning- digging footers tomorrow!
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Had some lookers checking it out (guess you have to click the pic for the effects)
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Can't quite make out the sounds.
Another question for you Mike - did you hire an architect or had someone draw up construction plans?
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Can't quite make out the sounds.
Another question for you Mike - did you hire an architect or had someone draw up construction plans?
It’s a noisy flock of geese flying over.
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No architect, and no blueprints lol. My wife found the picture of the house online and we have reversed the layout ( moved the garage to the opposite side) and we added rooms. My wife did a pretty good job on it, I have to say.
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Good to see you're back home making all this progress!
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Looking great Mike! Keep posting the pictures please. We can all live vicariously through you haha.
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Ryan- if by vicariously, you mean bankrupt…
Footer dug and rebar starting to be added.
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I'm envious of all of you southerners that don't need a footing that is below the frost line... in my case the footing top has to be 3.5' below grade.
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I'm envious of all of you southerners that don't need a footing that is below the frost line... in my case the footing top has to be 3.5' below grade.
Ours is 16". It was 2' way back when we had big cold winters.
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nice looking footer job. We are at 36" below grade in my area.
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Poured it Friday. 31 1/2 yards. Rained Saturday, of course, but it's done and ready to be cleaned now :???:
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Nice progress. You do the layout and footer work?
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Nice progress. You do the layout and footer work?
Not this time. I’m contracting out everything.
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Fun to watch it come together.
Australia is great.....no such thing as a frost line etc......we grade an area flat, pour a concrete slab and build a house on it, lol.
Nothing complex for the structure or roof etc.....we just tile or use sheet metal over the open trusses, toss some insulation in the ceiling and call it done. Makes roof repairs very easy.
😎🇦🇺
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Glad you got poured before it rained. Do you have footing inspections?
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Glad you got poured before it rained. Do you have footing inspections?
Inspections? We don't need no stinkin' inspections!
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Glad you got poured before it rained. Do you have footing inspections?
Inspections? We don't need no stinkin' inspections!
:lol: I want to move out of MA so bad... here you need a pre-pour inspection, engineering calcs, and after pour inspection. Once poured the civil engineer or land surveyor needs to come back and verify the dimensions of the foundation as well as all set backs.
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We have a plethora of inspections but not as bad as Jack. I used to do primarily commercial work. We had to have an independent engineer on site for all inspections. It actually works better that way, cuts way down on waiting time. I just built a deck and we had 6 pidly pier footings for the support beam posts. We waited until 3:20 pm for the inspector to give a quick look and say 'looks good to me'. A bit frustrating. The thing that bothers me is that they have no responsibility, so why do they have to approve.
I poured one job before the inspector got there (long story). He failed the footers, I had to write a letter to the building dept. saying we poured without insp. and that "I" would be responsible for anything. I told the guy, I AM RESPONSIBLE ANYWAY! I asked if I could get the same letter from them when they inspect. Of course there answer was no way they could do that.
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Yay for electricity. They were hooking it up when I came by after I got off work.
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So I ran a temporary wire to my well. The guys can have water when they start laying the blocks ( which were also delivered today).
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15 full cubes of blocks, and this is a slab house, not a crawl space
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Electricity is a wonderful invention :lol: I like the idea of installing few outlets at the meter cabinet.
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We have basement in the northeast, so we either pour the walls or use many more blocks. How high are you going with the blocks?
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One course above ground. The rest are all underground
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Woohoo, got that new fangled lectricity.....sure does make life easy.
I like those blocks with the natural finish faces.
Congrats on the progress.
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Blocks started being laid today.
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Looking good Mike.
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Wow Mike first time seeing this thread.
A very ambitious project glad to see your making progress throught the troubles you had.
I thought I had a big project when I bought the half acre lot next to my property so I can build a bigger shop.
Did you sell your house yet?
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Wow Mike first time seeing this thread.
Did you sell your house yet?
No. We have tentatively decided to continue to live in it until the new one is finished, then sell it.
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Good progress, looks like you have a good mason.
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Disked up the ground that we leveled a while back. Sowed it down last night then ran the cultipacker over it to help slow down erosion until the rye grass comes up.
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Looks great Mike! Sounds like you have all the right equipment too. I like that you planted my namesake grass haha.
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I like that you planted my namesake grass haha.
Whenever I'm in Leadville, I always stop in at the Silver Dollar Saloon and order a rye and make a toast to Doc Holliday.
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Wednesday the posts started going in for the shop
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Nice! that's going to be one big shop.
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Nice! that's going to be one big shop.
32' x 64' with a 14 x 24 porch.
Due to a "miscommunication" aka he left the labor price out of the bid- the original 32' x 16' equipment shed that was to be built onto the back side has been canned for now, and the lean-to porch is now reduced to 14' x 24'. After the house gets done, and we can see where we are financially, we will revisit adding them to the shop. But for now, we had to make up for the $12k labor shortfall
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Yikes! I hate when that happens. Will be a nice shop though. Good to have it built before the house, will give you a base to store material etc. during the build.
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Front
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Side Openings for 2: 10' foot-wide doors.
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Rear where I add the equipment addition later on; and North side where the 14 x 24 porch is going that overlooks the 1-acre pond
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Moving quickly, I like it and like Kerry said it'll be nice to have a place to use for staging especially during the winter.
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Mike, that’s some impressive progress. Can’t wait to see it move forward.
Best of luck with your new home.
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Wow, that's going to be an incredible workspace!!
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That is a lot of great progress. We built on a slab as well, and I really like it. I did it because of the humidity we have during the summers causing moisture issues in the crawl space. Like you I was surprised at the speed in which the electric company got service to my house. I'm only 990ft off the road, so they installed an in-ground substation and ran power from the road in the ground. They only charged after the first 300 feet, so it wasn't that bad. I have 400amp setup on my house as well, and according to the electrician it was the last 2-200amp boxes he had, or could get. I can't believe it is getting like that again.
Your land leveling skills are awesome. As soon as the farmer picks the beans I have about 10 more acres to mow, so I hope I can get my land close to yours. I hate cutting a bumpy yard.
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Today things changed a little.
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Nice work, that looks massive, I'm jealous.
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Nice work, that looks massive, I'm jealous.
32 x 64 enclosed shop with a 14 x 24 porch. My wife said this time I can't have a shop larger than the house. Our current home is right at 1600 sq. ft. And my current garage is 28 x 60 (1680 sq ft) not counting the 28 x 22 addition with no walls, just the vaulted ceiling- for grilling and chilling. Total of 2240 under roof :lol:
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That is a lot of great progress. We built on a slab as well, and I really like it. I did it because of the humidity we have during the summers causing moisture issues in the crawl space. Like you I was surprised at the speed in which the electric company got service to my house. I'm only 990ft off the road, so they installed an in-ground substation and ran power from the road in the ground. They only charged after the first 300 feet, so it wasn't that bad. I have 400amp setup on my house as well, and according to the electrician it was the last 2-200amp boxes he had, or could get. I can't believe it is getting like that again.
Your land leveling skills are awesome. As soon as the farmer picks the beans I have about 10 more acres to mow, so I hope I can get my land close to yours. I hate cutting a bumpy yard.
We wanted a slab because we seem to be getting older :-? No steps to pack groceries up sounds better all the time. I wanted underground all the way, but my budget couldn't handle it. SO I built the driveway and had the poles set beside it, so the power lines aren't in view from the front windows. I was on a 22- week waiting list for a 400 amp meter base; I kept searching online daily and one day a company posted that they had just received 7 of them. Fastest I ever typed- getting my information and CC info typed in. I got the next to the last one they had. All were sold within 2 minutes. I had it shipped from South Dakota and was glad to do it rather than wait 5-6 months and hope to get one.
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Here is my panel config. The 400amp box in the middle was actually free from my power company, and they had a few in the warehouse. I'm not sure why it was free, but I drove 40mins one way to pick it up the day I called them. Each side panel is a 200amp config, with the left box handling hvac, and the right side carrying the house. There is about 50amps left in the right box, so I'm running a line out to my shed. Since I currently have a washer and dryer in my shed (gotta love camper life) there is already a panel box there and a way to back feed my generator into the house. I just have to dig up the 150ft of 100amp cable used for the camper and use it.
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Are you going to backfill and grade the foundation yourself. I did mine and wow, was that tedious work. Then I had to cry when I dug all the plumbing trenches. My father-n-law and cousin are all plumbers, so we tackled the job. We kept the main drain line and branches and centralized as possible. 90% of the water fixtures in the house have home run pex lines back to a pex manifold. It really made working on the plumbing easier and neat. When I ordered the manifold they sent 2 units. Rather then send it back I'm holding onto it just in case I ever need to replace the current unit and not have to reroute the lines.
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Are you going to backfill and grade the foundation yourself. I did mine and wow, was that tedious work. Then I had to cry when I dug all the plumbing trenches. My father-n-law and cousin are all plumbers, so we tackled the job. We kept the main drain line and branches and centralized as possible. 90% of the water fixtures in the house have home run pex lines back to a pex manifold. It really made working on the plumbing easier and neat. When I ordered the manifold they sent 2 units. Rather then send it back I'm holding onto it just in case I ever need to replace the current unit and not have to reroute the lines.
So far all I have are the main drain exiting the foundation and the water line. Both are sleeved. We are going with Pex too for water lines. And yes, I will do my own backfilling and grading after we get finished. I will rent a trencher to run my underground wire for the 200 amp service from the 400 base to the shop (188 feet underground); and to the 200 amp service at the house (124 feet). Also trench the line from the well to the house (I haven't measured it but it'll be around 375 feet). They finally trench the LP gas line once I decide where I'm putting the tank.
My meter base is 125 feet from my house, so I have a lot of expensive underground wiring to buy :(
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I highly recommend buying the pex manifold before you actually lay out the lines or leave a couple feet out of the ground where the manifold is going to be. We only had about 2 feet out in the garage area, so I had to mount it low. I'm going to get a cabinet to conceal it, but it would have been easier to work with a little higher up. This unit was about $150.
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Mike, I used to do mostly commercial work. We would build large buildings, firehouses, schools, etc. It would take a while to get the foundation put in, then the slab area graded and filled ready for concrete. THEN, the electricians and plumbers would come in with their mini excavators and destroy all of our work with their underground. Back to grading again. I feel your pain.
Keep up the good work.
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With the shortages of those electric panels, do you find any theft issues?
We have locations where copper wire and electrical panels are stolen in bulk to scrap merchants for drug money.
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Yes it's been a huge issue for a while but only at abandoned homes and properties.
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With the shortages of those electric panels, do you find any theft issues?
We have locations where copper wire and electrical panels are stolen in bulk to scrap merchants for drug money.
So far so good, way out here where I'm at. Hard target. One way in and one way out, and a lot of gun-owning neighbors down the road :lol:
A little progress today
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I like the progress :D
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Nice visual progress. 8-)
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Very nice shop Mike! That will fit a few new Trans Am projects right? :lol:
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Around 1 pm today:
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edit: I just drove over there, and from my headlights, it appears that all the metal siding and trim has been installed. At l;east, I hope so- their trailer is gone and the scrap wood and metal has been picked up.
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And just like that you have a weather tight building. Congrats.
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I still can’t believe you guys build a shed like that......build the shed then pour a slab inside it.
Here we pour a slab, then build a shed onto it.
Seriously looks good, though.....nice big area!
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I still can’t believe you guys build a shed like that......build the shed then pour a slab inside it.
Here we pour a slab, then build a shed onto it.
Seriously looks good, though.....nice big area!
Normally the concrete comes first, but if the framers are there, and the concrete guys are 3 weeks out, we don't wait. Otherwise, I still wouldn't have a building put up. The postholes are drilled with a 16" auger on a skidsteer, and are 3 feet deep. The holes got 12" of concrete, and after it had set up for a day, the posts were set on top of the concrete.
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The back
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Garage door side- the charcoal piece on the corner has been replaced with a taupe piece. They were one piece short and put that one up Wednesday until they could get another piece out here Friday.
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Front end
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North end facing the pond
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Looking good Mike. Is the overhang so that you can drive under or just a covered porch?
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That’s a porch, facing the pond.
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She's a beaut!
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Very nice. I like the porch addition.
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Pics of the pond please.
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Pics of the pond please.
Yeah, I second that. Always wanted some waterworks in my backyard, but didn't want the maintenance of fish.
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Porch view
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Looking to the left side of pond
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Straight ahead view
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Looking to the right side of the pond
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Whoa. Now that's a pond. I think the fish can maintain themselves in that one.
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Very nice, thanks for posting.
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Just over one acre total. I have another slightly smaller pond out front, but will probably drain it and fill it in later on.
After the house is built, and I can see my financial situation, I want to get an excavator with a long arm and clean out the pond. Mr. Edwards died in 1985 and that's why all of the trees and stuff are still in the pond. No one did any maintenance on it after he died. It used to be so nice and clean around it and in it, but nearly 40 years of growth and falling limbs/trees have made it the mess it is in today. BTW_ that is the woods where the Bobcat skidsteer caught on fire. I had that much underbrush cleared before it decided to roast itself.
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Now that is what I'm talking about for a shop!! Remind me again what the dimensions are?
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Now that is what I'm talking about for a shop!! Remind me again what the dimensions are?
32' x 64' w/ 10' ceiling. 14' x 24' porch.
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That porch.....I can see comfortable chairs, cold drinks and watching animals come into the pond in the late evening. Nice.
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30-30 across his lap and meat in the freezer from the front porch :lol:
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30-30 across his lap and meat in the freezer from the front porch :lol:
From my current front porch yesterday morning. Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen and Comet. The other 3 4 were MIA.
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No pics, as the rain started coming down hard. So I finished my job for the day and grabbed my tools. Anyway, I now have 4/0-4/0-4/0-2/0 (ground) from the standalone meter base to my shop. The wire isn’t connected at either end but the 192’ run is buried and ready to hook up. I also ran two 12/2 underground wires from the back of the shop to my well for future use. One for the 240v submersible pump and one for a 120v outlet to plug in a heater. Last week I had rented a trencher and cut over 400 feet of trench for the main power wire, the well wire, the 1” water main line and the 3/4” water line that feeds the shop. I got all the water lines ran and pressure-tested yesterday.
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Running water in the garage? How nice is that? Maybe you can get a solar heater, and put in a shower. Then you'll be 100 % independent. A couch, a fridge, flat screen TV, Done. (Wait a minute, you'll need rabbit ears and a converter, if you have a TV. )
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You got juice and water, I like it. 4/0 is a good idea and it looks like you took VD into account.
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Running water in the garage? How nice is that? Maybe you can get a solar heater, and put in a shower. Then you'll be 100 % independent. A couch, a fridge, flat screen TV, Done. (Wait a minute, you'll need rabbit ears and a converter, if you have a TV. )
Our garage here has a bathroom. I had a tile shower in it but tore it out a few years ago. I did keep the tile floor with the drain, so whoever buys our place can add two walls back and have it again. All the plumbing is still there. It has a fridge and our old 46? inch flat screen in it.
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…and it looks like you took VD into account.
I used protection 😂. Yes, I used the 3% formula and was well within it. The ground is oversized but that was all that was available in a 4- plex 4/0 wire. That oversized ground wire won’t hurt anything or fail an inspection.
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LOL!
Mike, I say quit while your ahead. Garage sounds like you may as well put a bunk in there, done deal. Your wife may not like it too much though!
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LOL!
Mike, I say quit while your ahead. Garage sounds like you may as well put a bunk in there, done deal. Your wife may not like it too much though!
It's kind of drafty in there. Those 10x10 holes where garage doors will be (hopefully) let in some cold air. Garage doors are another of the new world situation items that are months behind. Hope to get them here and installed by February :sad:
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Yea, I havent had the need for any in a while but there was a new house built up the street from me. They moved in August and still no garage door. I guess that explains it.
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LOL!
Mike, I say quit while your ahead. Garage sounds like you may as well put a bunk in there, done deal. Your wife may not like it too much though!
It's kind of drafty in there. Those 10x10 holes where garage doors will be (hopefully) let in some cold air. Garage doors are another of the new world situation items that are months behind. Hope to get them here and installed by February :sad:
Whats a little draft... it builds character lol.
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Underground plumbing is being installed at the house
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Your moving right along, looks good! You must have a good general contractor working for you!
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Meeting with the electrician in the morning. Water lines are in.
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Mike, I'm curious what the reason is for not having a basement? Maybe it's because I'm from the Northeast, but most new construction here has a basement.
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Mike, I'm curious what the reason is for not having a basement? Maybe it's because I'm from the Northeast, but most new construction here has a basement.
Most here don't have basements. Some people do. Mainly it is the added expense. We got an estimate- a basement would have added an additional $36k to the total house cost. It was a basement or a shop :lol: Priorities!
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That makes a ton of sense. Just curious is all. You are going a great job and please keep posting the pictures. Look forward to seeing the progress.
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Mike, I'm curious what the reason is for not having a basement? Maybe it's because I'm from the Northeast, but most new construction here has a basement.
I always wanted a basement, but they are extremely rare in Australia......don’t know why, maybe because we don’t run a furnace for heating.....but you never see them here.
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Not sure about your climate Leigh, but here in the US, states in the north, mostly all have cellars, due to the winter frosts. Sometimes the ground will freeze up to 4' deep, which isn't good for a concrete slab. If a foundation requires more than 6-8' deep, (or more) and you have an excavator digging it, you might as well dig out the insides, to give more space under the house. (As you mentioned, for utilities such as a furnace, and other benefits). I can't imagine living in a house W/O a cellar, but I've been in the north most my life. My woodshop occupies most of my little cellar here.
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As Joe said basements are required and very common in the north but very rare in the south. And Mike I'm with you, basements can be turned into shops and such but why deal with going downstairs or dealing with limited headroom.
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I have lived in the Midwest all my life. Pretty much everything here is built with a basement for the reasons mentioned. With a basement it is much easier to get access for plumbing, electrical and heating if necessary. I also prefer conduit for electric over romex.
Choosing between a basement and the shop that Mike is building is a no brainer. I would take the shop in a minute.
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My family has been involved in building houses for the last century now. When my grand father was building post war boom almost everything was a crawl space. Then that changed to basements. In my area almost everything has one or the other. When dad built his last house he did not want a basement that would be a collect all for junk so be built on slab. We all said he was crazy as it would make the house a little harder to sell. He said he wasnt concerned and wouldnt have to worry about it when he was gone. He got the last laugh!
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Mike, just heard about the tornado situation in KY......hope you guys are OK. :shock:
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Mike, just heard about the tornado situation in KY......hope you guys are OK. :shock:
Brother, we wished for a basement last night. Pics don’t show the scope of the destruction from what is being called one of the largest tornadoes on record, and the longest distance ( over 220 miles). It missed our house but we have debris from it in our yard. Death toll in our county is expected to hit 100 or more. They are initially calling it an F4-F5.
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Thank God it missed your new house. It must be your Christmas miracle. Sorry for the others who weren't so fortunate.
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Between 190 mph F4 tornadoes (no power/trees down/etc...) and the rains that came after the destruction- I have accomplished nothing at my place. I have volunteered for cleanup, but now we are told to wait as they have professional crews onsite now with some serious equipment to load debris. We got power back in 3 days. I have managed to finally hook up the building's wire in my 400 amp service. I also have it hooked up inside the shop now, to the 200 amp box. I didn't think to take a picture inside. By then it was raining so hard that outside looked like nighttime, and I could hardly see what I was doing in the shop using my cellphone light.
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And I ran 2 wires from the front wall 200 amp service panel 64 feet to a back wall junction bow in there. I already has buried two wires from the back shop wall to my well. So now I have 240v feeding my well pump, and 120v feeding the receptacle in the wellhouse (for heat light or ceramic heater). And I ran a wire out and back from this nifty waterproof switch so I can turn on the light/heater without opening the wellhouse. I am going to drill a 1/2" hole in the cover and put a piece of Plexiglass there so that I can check on the light bulb without opening the lid.
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That is all I have been able to accomplish in a week.
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Mike, I'm sure you have this right but I can't tell without seeing the main service wiring. The ground and neutral should only be bonded at the main service panel.
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Mike, I'm sure you have this right but I can't tell without seeing the main service wiring. The ground and neutral should only be bonded at the main service panel.
You are correct. They are bonded at the 400 amp main panel. Code states that they must be separated after the first disconnect (which would be the 200 amp breaker, so the box inside the shop has to have non-bonded neutral and ground.
Today we got concrete at the shop. Tomorrow termite spraying at the house, and hopefully concrete before Christmas.
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Wonderful, looks like they did a really nice job.
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Great job, the shop looks beautiful.
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It's now 8:30 pm and two guys are still here working, as the concrete is just now dried enough to slick-finish it with the trowel. Cool weather, very little sunshine, and being inside the building made for a slow set, and curing will be even slower.
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Wow, sounds like you have a great crew! Nice dedication there.
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Is the white material that is between the steel siding and the wooden slats the insulation?
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Is the white material that is between the steel siding and the wooden slats the insulation?
It's a secret. I can't tell you :lol: Yes- it is the better of the two common kinds of vapor barrier used in pole buildings, in most builders' opinions, anyway. There is foil-faced double bubble, which- as you might expect by its name- is a thin layer of foil bonded to bubble-wrap. The double bubble insulation creates an isolated air pocket between the metal and the wood to prevent condensation. Since the two layer of bubbles are really thin, the R value is 1.
Then there is R-15 reflective vapor barrier. It is foil on one side, and the white poly on the other, with a thin wafer of insulation bonded between the two sides. That is what I went with on mine. Doesn't make it better- just my personal preference :grin:
From a scrap piece:
Inner side (seen in pics) white. Yes, it is dirty
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Outer foil side
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Insulation
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Not a lot of stuff happening here. Between this stuff...
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... followed by several rains, still no concrete for the house. We just cancelled pouring today- it is supposed to be in the mid-20's tonight, and I specifically have "no antifreeze" (actually it is a setting accelerate, but folks call it antifreeze) written in my contract. Just a personal thing with me. It was supposed to be poured Dec 22/23, while we had temps in the 70's, but he decided to take off all week, and now we are 3 weeks and counting behind schedule. I should have had walls and trusses up right now.
I did decide that I should see if my shop will hold a couple of cars and still have room to move, so I relocated the '77 to it. So far I only have 120v in my bathroom I built, so I had to run an extension cord 60 feet to hook up my Battery Tender Jr. Before I put anything in the shop, I sprayed 3 coats of sealer on the floor. Once I get stuff in there, it would be hard to seal it, so that little job is done. I am running wire today.
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My front yard this morning from the computer room window. It sure doesn't look like tonight's forecast of more snow on the way from here this morning.
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Car looks lonely in its new home. I dont blame you for the call on the concrete, but in our area we would pour year round. Adds a lot of cost though. When we were doing commercial stuff deadlines set the schedule. Lots of blankets, heaters, etc. Many fond memories (not really) of getting slabs ready and pouring in sub freezing temps :shock:
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Car looks lonely in its new home. I dont blame you for the call on the concrete, but in our area we would pour year round. Adds a lot of cost though. When we were doing commercial stuff deadlines set the schedule. Lots of blankets, heaters, etc. Many fond memories (not really) of getting slabs ready and pouring in sub freezing temps :shock:
Around here, the accelerating agent isn't used a lot. I don't personally know the guys that bid the concrete for our new home, but I know 100% that if you get too much "antifreeze" in the concrete that it will weaken it, and I didn't want to chance it with someone that may or may not be familiar with its use. We did a big concrete job (late 70's) for the Kentucky State Penitentiary. Massive 3-day pour. The last day it turned really cold and they dumped the agent in the concrete. A couple weeks later, we were breaking it up to repour. The concrete had started to crumble and small cracks were popping up in the last section we had poured. The inspector said they had put way too much of the agent in there. My garage apron here from 2008 is the same. The small concrete contractor (now a bigtime contractor here) added the agent. Federal Materials Concrete (owned by local west Kentucky native Billy Harper if you are a IHRA top fuel dragster/Pro Modified fan) sent their people out to collect samples and see what happened. Lab results came back with weakened concrete- I ordered 4000 psi- from excessive additive. They did offer to replace the material for free (Billy is one great man) but the contractor never came back and replaced it. It is the only concrete I have with cracks anywhere (and I have a lot of concrete here). That is why I am wary of using it down here. I know you all couldn't work half the year without it though. But I suspect y'all are familiar with how much to add.
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Now we can trully see the scale of your man cave. Thats massive and nice.
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Now we can truly see the scale of your man cave. That's massive and nice.
They are never big enough. I've been pulling some wire today. I have inside power on a couple walls now, and in the bathroom.
Here's a pic from today, standing against the east wall, facing west (64').
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And the restroom insulated up
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Water and power in there. Kinda nice to turn on the little heater so that I can step in there now and then to warm up some. And a light too!
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And to keep the water from freezing... especially this weekend.
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You are so correct, Jack. I can keep it warm enough now to protect the lines.
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Now I am officially jealous :-D Is there a shower in there as well?
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That garage looks huge. With a bathroom you will never have a reason to leave. I take that back, add a microwave and BBQ grill and you have no reason to leave.
Enjoy and use it in good health!
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Now I am officially jealous :-D Is there a shower in there as well?
No shower this time. The garage where I live now has a shower, but I didn't want to put one inside this one.
That garage looks huge. With a bathroom you will never have a reason to leave. I take that back, add a microwave and BBQ grill and you have no reason to leave.
Enjoy and use it in good health!
My trusty Char-Broil Infrared grill and my Blackstone griddle will live on the porch. My small microwave will be on the inside kitchen counter, by the frig.
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Making an attempt to pour concrete for the house floor tomorrow morning. Looks like the second pour (attached garage and wraparound porch) will have to wait awhile. Starting Wednesday, we leave the 55° temps and drop down into the teens. So we have a 1-day window to pour.
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As Larry would say 'Get R Done'.
Your previous post about cold weather additives and now your one day window made me think of a job we had several years ago. We too had a one day window to get the slab poured only the warm temp was low 20's! We were in the middle of a deep freeze and the average temp was low teens for what seemed like forever. We had to dig 20" of frost out and replace with stone to keep moving forward.
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33 yards down. Trowel time.
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Looking forwards to seeing some pics and walls going up :D
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Looking forwards to seeing some pics and walls going up :D
Ended up the day with 37 yards down. No garage floor and no porch floors yet. It’ll be a week before weather permits any more concrete. Currently 48 degrees here at 10 pm. Rain tomorrow. And temps in the teens tomorrow night, followed by single digits for a few days. I’m just glad to finally get the house floor down.
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Those newfangled wheelbarrows are nice!!!
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Glad you got that much knocked out. My 2nd floor of my shop was poured with calcium chloride and of course it's reinforced and sitting on the 2nd floor on steel. Does creep me out.
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Glad you got that much knocked out. My 2nd floor of my shop was poured with calcium chloride and of course it's reinforced and sitting on the 2nd floor on steel. Does creep me out.
Theres a very large colonial style house in my area. I think its around 20,000 sf. It was built in the 1920's by an heir of the duponts, whom was a GM executive. I was doing a small bit of work there and the care taker took me on a tour. I had always assumed it was built in a traditional manor. It was all structural steel and built like a high rise. He took me on a ride in the century old elevator to show me the attic. It had a concrete floor!
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Concrete down! 31 yards for the wraparound porch and the garage
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31.5 yds footer
37.0 yds floor
31 yds porch and garage
And 32 yds to do the shop. All at $160/yard. Two years ago it was $105/yard :sad:
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Lots of concrete. It all looks great, you have a good crew doing the finish work. The next town over from me was known as the concrete finisher capitol. There were 2 company's that did all of the work. And the two owners were related. Anyone had concrete poured it was one of these 2. They had a core of about 3 or 4 guys and whenever they had a big pour (100yds or so) they would go to the local bar and solicit help for the next day. It would be no problem at all for them to get 15 guys or so as needed. They were kinda like freelance concrete workers. One of the companies even owned their own pump truck before anyone even knew what a pump truck was. Ah, the good ole days.
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After it was completely finished at 9 pm. Very light broom finish on the porch.
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Wow, that looks great Mike! Please keep posting the pictures. Love seeing the progress.
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I thought my porch was big. I think you are trying to sneak an extra car area in the build.
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I thought my porch was big. I think you are trying to sneak an extra car area in the build.
Optical illusion. It's only 6 feet wide at the front and the end, and 10' wide at the back.
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Looking good Mike. Also looks like spring came early... or its just wishful thinking.
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Looking good Mike. Also looks like spring came early... or its just wishful thinking.
That is the winter rye grass I sowed to help stop erosion until I can sow fescue grass this spring. Only green in the area is that spot where I cut the hill down, and my front yard (I had some rye left over and I pulled the spreader a couple laps around my front yard at my current home). I have a green front yard, and everyone else's is brown :lol:
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I bought a bigger tractor a couple weeks ago.
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Congrats, although they look the same to me.
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Mike, judging from your previous posts, I dont think that tractor is big enough.
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71 hp. It'll have to be big enough for now.
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Congrats, although they look the same to me.
About 20 hp more, and 8550 lbs. vs. 3800 lbs for heavy ground work traction. Front tire view (and the MX5100 ag tire ain't little!) It just looks small next to the M6800 front tire.
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Really nice upgrade Mike!
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I wish I had a tractor with a bucket. We just had another 40tons a abc put on the driveway and I had to have them tailgate spread it.
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I dont even think that drivers around my area even do tailgate spreading anymore.
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Got a load of lumber delivered. Walls start going up Monday.
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Nice I can hardly wait.
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This is the pond around 90 yards or so in front of my house. We will decide later whether to clean up around it, or to drain it.
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And this is the spring by the shop. We had a lot of rain and it has muddied up the water.
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The biggest issue for me would be mosquitoes, but not if you have fish.
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Jack, we think alike.
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It's western Kentucky- mosquitos live everywhere in this area. The entire back side of my property has a deep creek. There are always a few mosquitos, but nothing like what I grew up with in the bottomlands.
Pic from the road this morning. I zoomed in as much as my phone would do.
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Framing one of my favorite parts of construction. Here in MA we are required to use 2x6 for all exterior walls, can you guess why?
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Framing one of my favorite parts of construction. Here in MA we are required to use 2x6 for all exterior walls, can you guess why?
You don't have spray-in insulation?
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I wanted to go with 2x6 walls and 6" insulation, but I was swayed by the expensive spray-in stuff with 2x4 walls being quite a bit cheaper than the less-costly 6" Owens-Corning insulation with the now-way-overpriced 10 foot 2x6's, so spray won. Y'all don't use spray insulation at all?
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We do but I don't like it. I prefer traditional insulation with a vapor barrier, it achieves the same results while allowing the wood to breath. Also the spray on stuff makes rewiring impossible in the future. But I understand your concerns with current costs.
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It is hard to tell, but how many king studs are they installing around those big windows. Our county had to have two for double windows, and I had to have three for my triple master window.
That's a great feeling when the walls go up!
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I like the traditional better myself. I didn’t know if your area had an ordinance requiring traditional or something. But the newer spray-on closed cell insulation is only laid down about 2” thick. It isn’t like the old open cell spray that was flush with the studs, and still has a R-13 rating @ 2”. Still room to snake a wire down the wall if needed.
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It is hard to tell, but how many king studs are they installing around those big windows. Our county had to have two for double windows, and I had to have three for my triple master window.
That's a great feeling when the walls go up!
Just one king stud, and one jack stud per side, to my knowledge.
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looking good Mike, you must be getting excited!
2x6 ext are required now in my area as well. We need min r19 in walls and r40 in ceilings. Just to clarify (and be a d*&*& I suppose), the stud beside the window/door opening that runs from plate to plate is the King stud. The stud holding the header up attached to the king stud is the jack stud. Typically up to a 4ft width a single jack is ok, anything over and you need to double them. If we have a large opening 8'-10' then yes, add a couple more just because.
Are sprinklers required there Mike?
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looking good Mike, you must be getting excited!
2x6 ext are required now in my area as well. We need min r19 in walls and r40 in ceilings. Just to clarify (and be a d*&*& I suppose), the stud beside the window/door opening that runs from plate to plate is the King stud. The stud holding the header up attached to the king stud is the jack stud. Typically up to a 4ft width a single jack is ok, anything over and you need to double them. If we have a large opening 8'-10' then yes, add a couple more just because.
Are sprinklers required there Mike?
I figured that was what Jack ran into with using 2x6 walls, but that isn't a issue here since we don't have the cold temps you all do up there. My french doors at our house where we live now are 60" and have 2 kings and 2 jacks per side IIRC. Pretty sure that was what was recommended,but that has been 21 years now so I may be wrong. That was my first time to install anything that wide, so I had to get advice on how to build it to support the rafters over the 60" span.
No sprinklers for homes here. Surely y'all don't have that too? Gee, at work we have to shut down the system and drain it per code. And the exterior sprinkler lines are refilled with air first to prevent the lines from freezing, with the water inside the building only. If homeowners have to install/maintain a separated sprinkler system, that has to be a heck of an expense. I couldn't live up north with all the regulations on everything from no parking in your own lawn to you can't do anything without a permit or a stranger poking around you place. I bet they would go crazy for sure if you shot a gun on your own property. :lol:
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The more I hear about KY the more I want to move, LOL. I have a customer that lives in your neck of the woods (western KY). I do a lot of work for her mother that lives nearby. She says the same that things are fairly relaxed there.
Yes, all new residential, home, condo, townhouse, etc. has to have a sprinkler system. They are a dry pressurized system so no worry about freeze. Most minor renovations do not need them but all new construction. We have codes and inspections for everything. Footing inspection, slab inspection, framing inspection, insulation inspection, electric, plumbing and hvac.
I did a job near pittsburgh a couple of years ago. It was an industrial project at a landfill. We hung the drywall, taped and painted in a couple of days on one side. Left the inside alone for the inspector to look at things. He had a fit that we taped and painted the drywall. Apparently they had a drywall inspection as well in that jurisdiction!
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We have electrical and plumbing inspections here. I had no idea that homes were getting sprinkler systems!
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So far only multiple family homes here are requiring sprinklers but not single family homes YET.
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BTW I'm traveling again and this week I'm somewhere in KY :D what a beautiful state... but I don't think I'll eat fried chicken again :lol:
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BTW I'm traveling again and this week I'm somewhere in KY :D what a beautiful state... but I don't think I'll eat fried chicken again :lol:
That's a myth. We actually eat tacos instead of chicken. :shock:
So far only multiple family homes here are requiring sprinklers but not single family homes YET.
That's good IMO. I bet the home system is fairly expensive to have installed. Around here- my plumbing license doesn't qualify for me to install a system. I would have to get sprinkler-certified to install them, and I never tried. It is a 7-year apprenticeship to be a master fire suppression tech here.
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Very expensive, need special certification and its ugly.
My apologies in advance about hijacking but I must say since when chilli has no beans but comes with spaghetti?
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Very expensive, need special certification and its ugly.
My apologies in advance about hijacking but I must say since when chilli has no beans but comes with spaghetti?
In the Cincinnati area, chili ALWAYS comes on spaghetti, covered with grated cheddar cheese. Onions and/or beans by request.
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That's good IMO. I bet the home system is fairly expensive to have installed. Around here- my plumbing license doesn't qualify for me to install a system. I would have to get sprinkler-certified to install them, and I never tried. It is a 7-year apprenticeship to be a master fire suppression tech here.
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In Ohio, my electrical license does not cover fire detection and alarm systems. I had to get an additional certification, with yet another annual renewal fee....of course.
Now back to the original thread.....
The house is coming along nicely, Mike. Keep posting. It's nice to see how the other half lives!!
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My apologies in advance about hijacking but I must say since when chilli has no beans but comes with spaghetti?
Kentucky Chili is made so many ways. With or without beans, with or without spaghetti (or elbow macaroni), with hamburger or turkey meat ( possibly roadkill at some places lol), onions or not. I think everyone here makes it different. But it’s all good on a cold day.
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The house is coming along nicely, Mike. Keep posting. It's nice to see how the other half lives!!
Just making a small room for my new-to-me CETA. When are you bringing it (I’ll feed you chili) 😂. Or I can come get it any time.
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My apologies in advance about hijacking but I must say since when chilli has no beans but comes with spaghetti?
No apologies. Kentucky Chili is made so many ways. With or without beans, with or without spaghetti (or elbow macaroni), with hamburger or turkey meat ( possibly roadkill at some places lol), onions or not. I think everyone here makes it different. But it’s all good on a cold day.
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Maybe I'll stop over when I'm down in the Richmond area. How far are you from Richmond?
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Sounds like we need a chili thread under the food section :-D
A few years ago our head of county commissioners was and is a very active fire chief/firefighter. His goal in office was to make sure every house in the county had sprinklers. I fought it at first. The statistics for single family homes did not add up. However if one life is lost thats too many, especially if its your loved one. My concerns were cost for new construction, maintenance, and lower value of older houses without. The biggest issue is installation cost at this point. BUT, that is minimal compared to a new home cost. In my county one will have $100k spent before the actual construction begins.
Sorry for the hijack Mike.
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No sprinklers, but a March shower :(
Interior walls nearly completed.
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At least it didn't snow, good progress Mike.
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At least it didn't snow, good progress Mike.
Snow is forecast for Friday night. 1-3" after a week of temps in the 50's :sad:
Garage walls are up (actually all walls are up except for two 3' wing walls that my wife has to decide exactly where they should go).
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Weather is stopping work until Monday, when it is supposed to stop raining/snowing and be back in the low 60's. While waiting on the trusses, the sheathing and porches should be done.
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Looking good, once the trusses arrive you'll be weathertight in no time.
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Are you having any material delays? I know of a fellow building a home and said they cant get trusses. I talked to my truss supplier and he is getting 2 loads of material a week and is having no problem in production. Windows on the other hand are hard to get. I just priced a job and the vinyl windows are 14 -16 weeks out.
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Are you having any material delays? I know of a fellow building a home and said they cant get trusses. I talked to my truss supplier and he is getting 2 loads of material a week and is having no problem in production. Windows on the other hand are hard to get. I just priced a job and the vinyl windows are 14 -16 weeks out.
They measured for trusses Friday morning ( before the snow). He said 2 weeks out in them. I ordered windows and doors 2 months ago. They called and said that they had arrived last week, and will hold them until we are ready. Garage doors- I still don’t have them for my shop. They estimated 4 months. It’s getting close so we will see.
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Looking good Mike!
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A little progress
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Front:
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Garage side:
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Back:
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And the opposite end from the garage:
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Going to be a nice home, especially with those wrap around porches.
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^^^ X10 and beautiful pics.
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So nice! Thank you for keeping us posted. Love seeing this come together.
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That is going to be a beautiful house, but I'm the minority here. After watching my house build drag along for a year these updates bring back bad memories.
Seriously, keep them coming?
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Today we finally got our shop garage doors:
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And the temporary porch posts to hold the beam that wraps around the house:
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And another pic of the spring by my shop, just cause I like it so much:
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Great update looking good Mike.
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Pretty exciting! It looks great!
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Mike,
Everything is looking great! Seems to be moving right along. I bet you can't wait to get the house under roof.
I couldn't help but notice you installed the same door openers I have on both of my garages. I love them because no belt or chains and very quiet. The dead bolt latching solenoid makes it harder to break into. I added the battery backup unit on the opener on my attached garage because we once got locked out during a power failure and I neglected to bring along a house key.
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I was looking through the instructions last night, and it showed the battery option. I’ll do that on the house garage doors. Probably not an issue for my shop. Those openers are so quiet! I can barely hear them from 10 feet away.
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Click for video. We counted 28. A few days ago there were 41 there.
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Thats quite a lot of hooves!
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I didn't realize that was a video and was wondering why the last post was made :lol:
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Porch joists are up now. Raining today, so nothing happening. Supposed to stop tonight, if so the trusses will be delivered Wednesday. They have been holding them since they were finished Thursday afternoon. They called wanting delivery instructions. I asked them to hold them u til the Friday and Tuesday rains stopped.
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Rained all morning. They brought the first load of trusses this afternoon.
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I love watching trusses being craned and installed. Looks like you also incorporated a gable ceiling, nice.
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And the others today. There is a stack of smaller ones that I didn't get in the picture.
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I love watching trusses being craned and installed. Looks like you also incorporated a gable ceiling, nice.
Master bedroom, kitchen, great room and dining room IIRC. My wife was in charge of that kind of stuff, so I'm really not sure if any more rooms are vaulted.
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Nothing much done today. Way too windy for the crane truck to set trusses. They have fought the wind and managed to get the housewrap nearly done, after they began framing the steps and landing.
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Wow nice job, going to be a beautiful home. Location is breathtaking.
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Wow nice job, going to be a beautiful home. Location is breathtaking.
Thank you. Still a lot of work to do to the ground.
Today:
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To the mancave:
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Those are hefty looking rafters in the garage area. Is the open area going to be attic space, or a man cave?
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Looking good Mike, whoever first designed rafters must have been a genius.
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Those are hefty looking rafters in the garage area. Is the open area going to be attic space, or a man cave?
Mancave and bathroom.
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That will be nice. When I did my garage/shop the cost to upgrade to attic trusses was insignificant. I put them in also. I have a nice empty loft area right now but about once a week I come up with a different idea what to do with the space.
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Those are hefty looking rafters in the garage area. Is the open area going to be attic space, or a man cave?
Mancave and bathroom.
Crazy idea....lol
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Finally a day without rain.
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Great progress :-D
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I thought you were supposed to downsize when retiring! Looks great Mike.
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I thought you were supposed to downsize when retiring! Looks great Mike.
True, the house is larger than our current one, but still it isn't huge by any means (2400 sq ft). My wife has lived her entire married life in two houses- both of which I built from the ground up- so this is her pre-retirement gift :lol: The 50 acres was my dream, not hers. As long as we don't have a neighbor within 50 yards, she's happy. We have never had a house that close to us in our entire marriage.
Front decking started yesterday morning, but a light snow followed by a pretty decent sleetstorm stopped all work on that steep roof! And rain is forecast for 3 of the next 5 weekdays... again.
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That is the biggest 2400sq ft house I've ever seen. LOL
It looks fantastic.
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Unlike ours it all on one floor! Which even in my mid 40s the stairs in our house seem like mt. Everest.
Looking good Mike!
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Heavy rains and yet another tornado, virtually down the same path as the December one. We have no idea how much damage but surely it is nowhere close to the December 10 tornado. Yesterday was mostly sunny. I had a tom turkey with 5 hens, and about 20 deer, out back. Ol' Tom is struttin' and ready!
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Look to the left of the hen turkey and you will see a curious deer that went over to sniff her.
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They did manage to start the framing out for the mancave steps and bathroom
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Is the mancave steps access from the house or the garage? They look really wide too. You should be able to get a recliner up those stairs.
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Is the mancave steps access from the house or the garage? They look really wide too. You should be able to get a recliner up those stairs.
The steps will be just inside the house, right after you enter from the garage door and turn right. They are 4' wide IIRC.
No wind, no rain! Progress today!
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Very good progress. Now it's taking shape and looking great.
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Looks amazing
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Love it... I'm very excited for you, looks beautiful.
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Looks very close to being weathered in Mike. That must be a huge relief.
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Does that elevator truck belong to the roofer? If so Im impressed. The only guys in my area with that kind of settup do large commercial stuff only.
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Does that elevator truck belong to the roofer? If so Im impressed. The only guys in my area with that kind of settup do large commercial stuff only.
Yep, And the motorized trailer with a lift is his too. Pretty snazzy stuff.
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It looked like the logo on the trailer matched the truck. Thats why I asked. Most of the guys in my area (seems like any more they are all Amish) have those roofer trailers, but again the only roofer I know with their own boom truck is a large commercial outfit we used to use. Then again he had 3 or 4 boom trucks and a couple of cranes as well.
Do you have your windows yet? And did you have any problem getting them? They are woefully behind around here, some taking months to get.
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I ordered doors and windows 3 months ago and they are in and being stored here. Now that it has a roof, they can put them and the doors in.
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Well, it's a good feeling when you get somewhat weathered in. Looking good!
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Wow, that has a great profile. I thought you said it was small :shock:
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Great looking home, the rap around porch is exactly what my wife likes and sure increases the footprint and useable space outside, but I’m a poor provider and she had to settle for a front porch and a back deck.
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It's been a month surely more work has been done but again I'm sure you are extremely busy.
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It's been a month surely more work has been done but again I'm sure you are extremely busy.
Standing at the garage door looking at the garage closet
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Master bath roughed in
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Second bath
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Master bath looking to the master bedroom, trying to figure out how I'm gonna pack the shower unit upstairs to the mancave without help
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kitchen to great room view
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Stairs that I need to get up with the shower unit :lol:
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200 amp
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Couple of wires
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A little vinyl going up
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Fireplace roughed in
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Back porch ready for vinyl
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Looking good Mike. I love the kitchen/great room combo. Is that a gas fire place?
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Is that a gas fire place?
Yep. Propane. Where I live, ain't no city water, sewage or natural gas. We have- well, septic tank and propane tank. But they are running fiber for internet down the road in front of my new place. They told me when it is done, to hook onto it I will have to pay to have the line ran the roughly 1400 feet from the road to my house.
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Same here. Looks like it's coming along. I really enjoyed designing and building our home 12 years ago. It was a lot if fun for us, hope you are getting the same enjoyment as we did.
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Lookin good Mike. When building, things move really quick and it looks like a lot is going on during the framing. Then all of the 'behind the scenes' stuff takes place. Rough inst of elect and plumbing, insulation, wall board, etc and looks like nothing is going for a long time. Seems to be a well thought out layout.
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Yep. Propane. Where I live, ain't no city water, sewage or natural gas. We have- well, septic tank and propane tank. But they are running fiber for internet down the road in front of my new place. They told me when it is done, to hook onto it I will have to pay to have the line ran the roughly 1400 feet from the road to my house.
The fiber will be well worth the price.
Also you will love the propane fireplace. We converted ours when we renovated and my wife uses it few times per week during winter and I never have to start it :-D... Ours was also sized to heat most of the house in case we lose electricity, never had to use it for that but it's good knowing we have that option.
I'm due to provide an update to my "done house renovation" and will post the fireplace conversion.
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Looks great Mike! Let me know if you need help with the shower unit, I can make a trip down.
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I had to go to page 2 to find your post, you must be extremely busy, believe me I know but would love to see an update :D, just few pics without a writeup is just fine.
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Lordy, Jack. I am so behind... Most of the siding has been installed for 2 months. Still waiting on 7 squares (backorder, surprise, surprise). Waiting on stone for the front of the house.
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They shorted me one window. I have a projected date of November 2 for it. SO teh siding had to stop at the window hole :shock:
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Septic system installed
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Bought a storage building for the holiday stuff my wife has
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Insulation is in
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Unit installed in the attic
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Fireplace box roughed in
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We need our siding LOL
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Sheetrock delivered Friday
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I decided to go ahead and put the subfloor down and run the plumbing to the mancave. I worked all day yesterday and after staring this morning at 6:30 am, I just came home for lunch and to cool down (and change from my wet clothes) and got on the computer. As luck would have it, I actually just took pics of my floor in the mancave (and also pics from the ductwork from **** that runs through the trusses.
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They still have some wrapping to do on the duct. It is hot in the attic!
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I guess if you need-ta work n the attic, after the roof shingles go on, maybe the central air would be next on the priority list, to keep you cool, whilst working thru the summer months. Fine looking building so far. I see light at the end of the tunnel, Mike.
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Lot’s of progress since your last post, it looks really nice. Waiting months for one window would drive me nuts. I chuckle at the extra building for your wife’s holiday stuff. My Dad used to decorate our house like Clark Griswald, what an ordeal pulling everything out and putting it back.
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Great update and progress. When I did my house I went with all off the shelf stock. The only special order item was a large bay window, but I guess things are different now.
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Looking good Mike :grin:
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Looking great Mike!!
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Sheetrock is hung.
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"And the hits just keep on comin." Looks like a lotta mud. I can see you in a hazmat suit now, walking thru a cloud of dust. :smile:
Love the space in the garage. See how long you can keep from filling it...completely.
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Looking great Mike. it was nice to see it in person before the rock went up.
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Love it.
Another thing that is more common up north is plaster. We do a lot more plastering up north, and use strapping.
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1st sanding on the sheetrock... finally.
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Now that looks like a lot of work. Looks pretty good Mike.
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Mike, are "you" doing all that interior work? :shock:
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Mike, are "you" doing all that interior work? :shock:
Nope- basically this is a lock & key job. I am doing the mancave and a couple small things only this time.
Now that looks like a lot of work. Looks pretty good Mike.
It is. I can't imagine me doing that much sheetrock at my age.
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Nice progress Mike and looks great! The sheetrock really changes everything.
I did the sheetrock, mudding and taping about four years ago on my second garage. Second floor cathedral ceiling was definately more work. At that time I was 64 years old and decided this was the last project of that size for me. I am always amazed when watching the pros mud and tape.
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Mike, are "you" doing all that interior work? :shock:
Nope- basically this is a lock & key job. I am doing the mancave and a couple small things only this time.
Whew!. I'm not sure if you still have ta work for a living, because that much sanding seems like an eternity. I hear there are pros out there, that can smear the mud on, wipe it down with a wet trowel (?), and not have to go back over it. Pure talent.
With me, spackle on, smooth out, wait for it to dry, sand down the highs, fill in the lows, and repeat...about 12 times.
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Looks great Mike but I concur, that's a lot of work! I did the upstairs remodel on our old house about 4 years ago and it was a lot of work!
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Got a little project or two done today. Poured some pads. And I'm wiped out. Getting old sucks.
Shop pads for future door entrance and for the A/C unit: pics 1-2-3 (A/C unit) -4 (doorway)
Large pad at the back of my garage for the main unit condenser, and for 2 MrCool units: pic 5
She-shed pad for my wife's building; pic 6
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Whoa. Well done Mike. Did you mix that concrete in a wheelbarrow?
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Whoa. Well done Mike. Did you mix that concrete in a wheelbarrow?
Straight out of a truck. Neighbor told me he had a small pour scheduled for noon today so I built forms this morning and he had 3 more yards added to his order for me.
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Sweet. That's the way to do it. Now that that's done, where do you go next?
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Final sanding on the primer on the walls then paint. Then cabinets and finish the electrical stuff
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Nice looking finish on the pads. I used to dread the days when we were pouring concrete, then it got so it wasnt that bad. I know what you mean about the work to do the job. Last 'big pour' was a garage that was something like 12 x 30. I figured not such a big deal me and my 2 helpers could do it no problem. In the past it would be nothing for us to place 100+ yards in a morning (with more help). That garage just about killed me! I still dont have concrete in the barn portion of my new shop. I keep thinking that Me and a couple of helpers can do half at a time then reality sets in and I remember that dinky garage job.
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Not much progress this week. I did move my two 500 gallon LP tanks to the new house and hooked them up.
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Haven't been on TAC for a while but I do see a lot of good progress. What was the original move in schedule Mike?
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End of September :lol: then end of October :lol: now mostly done and livable by end of November :shock: At least things are progressing now. Most rooms are painted, cabinets began being installed Saturday (yesterday). wood ceilings for kitchen and great room are supposed to be whitewashed and installed this week, as are the floors.
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Looking good Mike! Looks like you are still waiting on that window :shock: I have a small project that has the same opening, LOL. Ordered the window in September supposed to be delivered in December.
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Looking good Mike! Looks like you are still waiting on that window :shock: I have a small project that has the same opening, LOL. Ordered the window in September supposed to be delivered in December.
Mine too. 1st week of December, hopefully...
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Kerry- guess what was delivered a couple hours ago?
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Perfect, glad you got it early. Another thing I am waiting on is some handrailing for a deck. Ordered in June, supposed to be delivered Sept, then production for November!! Still waiting.
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Looks fantastic Mike! Glad you got the window. Going to start getting cold soon.
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Woke up to this today...
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NOOOOO! Does this means it's coming this way? I still got more yard "winterizing" to do.
(It does look nice tho Mike)
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What a scenic view. Is this looking through one of your new windows?
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Snow already, it was 75 degrees here in MA today but that is coming our way.
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What a scenic view. Is this looking through one of your new windows?
No, this is at our current home this morning.
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From my new shop window looking at the new house a while ago
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Across the field, and coming up to the new house. We had 2 .25" but a lot melted due to the warm ground from yesterday. It got up to 36° today with no sun.
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Beautiful.
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What a beautiful estate Mike. You will get exercise walking to and from the house to the shop.
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What elevation, Mike? you must be up there.
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What elevation, Mike? you must be up there.
Way up there! :lol: 407 feet above sea level. We are lowlanders.
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Ha!, I dont think Im far from that elevation myself. Spending a week at 10,000 plus in the Rockies was an eye opener!.
The Yeti Estate is looking nice :)
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Ha!, I dont think Im far from that elevation myself. Spending a week at 10,000 plus in the Rockies was an eye opener!
I do that every year for two weeks. It takes me two days just to begin to acclimate. That’s why I try to get there on Wednesday before season starts on Saturday. Even then it ain’t easy walking for a couple more days!
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Wow Mike, that's a decent snowfall for down south. This will be my first winter in VA, so I really have no idea what to expect. We're at 600' here in the Charlottesville area.
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Wow Mike, that's a decent snowfall for down south. This will be my first winter in VA, so I really have no idea what to expect. We're at 600' here in the Charlottesville area.
It's early for sure. March 5, 2015, we had 21" in one snow. Most I've ever seen here. We've had lots of 10"+ snows through the years, but the last several years we haven't had as many snows as we did in the past. Heck (to date myself in front of everyone) in 1978 school was out for Christmas (mid-December), Started snowing and we had snow/partial melting/snow/partial melting... so many times that we went back to school the first week of March. Remember though, that every winter we had snows, but not one after another for weeks at a time; so Kentucky didn't have nearly enough snow removal equipment. All they had were road graders. Slow as they were, when they were almost done clearing, it would come another 6-10" snow and they had to start all over again. Kentucky does have snowplows now!
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Must be the "Lake effect". :-?
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We usually dont get snow until mid Jan, and sometimes it wont let up until the end of march. It runs in cycles though we have had a few years now with next to nothing. We are due for a bad winter. On the very rare occasion we have had a dusting on Thanksgiving, that is nice to wake up to.
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Our last window finally arrived. Tilework in master shower has begun, most lighting is installed and the floors are 80% installed. The wood ceilings are done as of today (pics taken yesterday and there were a few boards still not installed when I took pics and left). Siding is supposed to be finished now that we have the window.
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Finally moving along.
And got the stonework finished.
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Man, that place is "huge". Good thing you're in the south, and don't have-ta heat it...too much. But it seems to be filling in nicely, Mike. What's next on the agenda?
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You are doing an outstanding job Mike! So with that window installed does that mean that the outside is completely finished as far as siding and weathered in?
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Great work, almost move in time. I love the lighting fixtures.
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Looks great Mike!
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Slowly knocking off the remaining items. Still waiting on island counter number 3 (they have sent two now that were both wrong). Water heater is operational. Appliances are in. Fireplace is done and operational. Getting close. Anyone want a house, a 28x82 4-bay garage, and 5 acres? When I move into the new house down the road, this one will be for sale. We can be neighbors :grin:
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Love the corner fireplace Mike. Don't tell me, "gas, or pellet stove?"
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Propane. No amenities out here like natural gas, city water or sewage. And mama don't want another dirty ol' wood burner like we had for years when we got hitched. I have a used-once-only wood cookstove from the late 20's or early 30's that I am installing in my new shop/family & friends events center. My dad and mom used it once in the late 80's/early 90's in their little cabin... just for the memories of how they cooked when they were married. This stove had never been used before that, and never again since. I hope to change that. It is not this one (pic off the internet) but is nearly identical and is the same color as this one. I plan to put a wood heating stove in the shop too.
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Trying not to sound like a broken record, the new place looks beautiful, very impressive. Bet you can’t wait to move in.
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Always had a fascination with the antiques. Came so close to getting a cooktop, like yours. But the wife says, "you buy it, you're cookin on it". So I've settled with this Glenwood111 base heater. older photo, but still use it..today.
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'Cept, we burn coal, not wood. Hope you enjoy your cooktop.
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Looks beautiful Mike, I bet you guys are ready to move in and start enjoying the fruits of your labor. I like the idea of a shop/family/friends rec centre! I will have to plan a trip to W KY.
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Always had a fascination with the antiques. Came so close to getting a cooktop, like yours. But the wife says, "you buy it, you're cookin on it". So I've settled with this Glenwood111 base heater. older photo, but still use it..today.
'Cept, we burn coal, not wood. Hope you enjoy your cooktop.
The cooktop was my idea. Wife wanted one of those smooth top electric ones. I reminded her that the last icestorm took out our power for 13 days, and if we had owned a gas top, I wouldn't have had to grill outside every day in the 3+ inches of ice. "You don't cook that much anymore anyway," I added. Last thing I remember saying. When I came to, I apologized :lol: :lol: :lol:
Looks beautiful Mike, I bet you guys are ready to move in and start enjoying the fruits of your labor. I like the idea of a shop/family/friends rec centre! I will have to plan a trip to W KY.
Come on down (but wait a bit). We have had two nights of sleet/freezing rain here and the roads are nasty.
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Slowly knocking off the remaining items. Still waiting on island counter number 3 (they have sent two now that were both wrong). Water heater is operational. Appliances are in. Fireplace is done and operational. Getting close. Anyone want a house, a 28x82 4-bay garage, and 5 acres? When I move into the new house down the road, this one will be for sale. We can be neighbors :grin:
You had me right up to the "We could be neighbors" part! :-P :-P
Also, don't you still need electric to operate the gas valve and ignition on the cooktop? I know our gas cooktop will not operate without electric.
The house looks great, though. The two of you should be very happy with it.
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Also, don't you still need electric to operate the gas valve and ignition on the cooktop? I know our gas cooktop will not operate without electric.
I have no idea. I know my mother-in-law's didn't require electric, but that was 30 years ago. She just turned on the burner and lit it with a match. Newfangled ones may not be that user-friendly. I bought one for my shop that says that it works without electricity, but it was a cheap $200 top.
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Great update and I love everything you are doing Mike good for you. Must be very exciting time.
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As far as gas/propane I converted my wood burning fireplace to gas. The blower needs electricity but the unit can operate on batteries for the controls and ignitor. It is sized to warm the entire house in case I lose power.
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Looking great Mike!
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I have a wood burning fireplace and love it. I like old crap though :shock: I bought a cord of wood at the beginning of the season for $260. Still have 3/4 of it (which is kinda silly considering I live in the woods :shock:). We burn it at least every sat and sun, usually starting about 3 or 4 oclock into the evening. I dont have a glass door so I like for it to be out when I go to bed. At least once a week it is burning late afternoon into the evening. It def. warms up our great room but I dont use it for heat as much as appearance and just because, the heat factor is a bonus. I had a buddy give me a propane fireplace and Im about ready to put it in our dining room that I recently converted to a sitting/tv room. I cant stand the idea of buying gas at $3 a gallon just to burn it off. For some reason the wood doesnt bother me, but when the propane is running all I see is dollars going up in flames.
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I have a wood burning fireplace and love it. I like old crap though :shock: I bought a cord of wood at the beginning of the season for $260. Still have 3/4 of it (which is kinda silly considering I live in the woods :shock:). We burn it at least every sat and sun, usually starting about 3 or 4 oclock into the evening. I dont have a glass door so I like for it to be out when I go to bed. At least once a week it is burning late afternoon into the evening. It def. warms up our great room but I dont use it for heat as much as appearance and just because, the heat factor is a bonus. I had a buddy give me a propane fireplace and Im about ready to put it in our dining room that I recently converted to a sitting/tv room. I cant stand the idea of buying gas at $3 a gallon just to burn it off. For some reason the wood doesnt bother me, but when the propane is running all I see is dollars going up in flames.
Here in our current home, I also have a propane fireplace like in our new house. When the 2009 icestorm took out all power in Kentucky, that fireplace was our only source for warmth, and it alone kept us warm for 13 nights, until we got power. We turn it up and turn on the ceiling fan and it heats most of our house. The fan sends the warm air down the hallway; plus, it keeps the living room from getting uncomfortably hot. We run it and watch tv and stay comfy. It also cuts our electric bill down considerably when the central unit gaspack isn't running. It is more economical on propane consumption (IMO) than the gaspack is when it is burning gas. BTW- I called today and ordered more propane at $1.99/gallon. I have 4 tanks total- 3 500's and a 325. One here, and the three others at the new place. I also just did a 3-year average on our electric bills for this house. January 2020-December 2022. The monthly average was $122.70/month.
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As far as gas/propane I converted my wood burning fireplace to gas. The blower needs electricity but the unit can operate on batteries for the controls and ignitor. It is sized to warm the entire house in case I lose power.
Neither of ours have blowers. We have to use the ceiling fan to move the air.
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Its warming up slowly...
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Ouch!!!!!!!!!! Yesterday we almost got up to freezing. Currently 22* but today is supposed to be mid-40's for the high, and then 50's all week.
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Yea, Im paying a bit more, just filled up and it was 2.80 gall. My heating oil was just below 4.00
Our electric bill averages 240. a month.
Fortunately in my 20+ years here we were without electric long term just once, that was in the late summer when a hurricane hit. I think we were down for 4 or 5 days. Prompted me to get a small backup generator. Then a couple of winters ago we had an unusual ice storm and the power went out overnight. The fireplace def. kept us warm through the night. Ironically though it seems that every time the wind blows we lose power from 1 minute to half hour. We have lost power at this house more than any place I have lived.
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Also, don't you still need electric to operate the gas valve and ignition on the cooktop? I know our gas cooktop will not operate without electric.
Fired it up today for the first time. Then I unplugged it from the 120v receptacle and lit the burners with a lighter. Electronic ignitors and electrically-operated gas valves are for you city slickers who can't be trusted with a lighter and gas :lol: We have all seen the "cigarette" burns on Trans Am consoles.
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Fireplace in and operational.
First concrete apron pour is done.
Today I got the driveway white-rocked, and have been grading it smooth all morning.
Also, they installed the main unit condenser. (I didn't take a pic)
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Leave it to the city slickers to run our lives...
Where is the like button :-D
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Starting to look like a finished product Mike :grin:
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Very Nice Mike!
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Showed my house Saturday to the first prospective buyer. He came with a home inspector. Started the paperwork today to turn it over to him.
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Good luck! Hope it goes through!
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Congratulations Mike, when you posted the picture of your two birds I was wondering when they would move to their fancy new home.
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Good luck! Hope it goes through!
Thanks. I don't think it will be an issue, but never say never.
Congratulations Mike, when you posted the picture of your two birds I was wondering when they would move to their fancy new home.
I actually think that my garage here was a better home than the metal shop we had built at the new place. The '77 has been living there for several months. The '69 is still here with us, but we have been talking about selling it, as well as her 64xxx mile 2012 Mustang that I ordered for her. She stopped driving it a few years ago. I had to buy tires in 2020 because the 62xxx OE's were cracking a little. I went out last month to start it and the 2017 battery was dead and wouldn't take a charge. So I had to buy a new battery. I "asked" her to drive it or sell it. I think she is going to sell it.
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Oh wow, I hope you replace them with something cool!
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Be careful in what you admit to - the insurance company has a way of using it against you! My brother had a fire and his garage burned to the ground- luckily he pushed out his ‘53 ford truck while on fire against fireman recommendations because later they found a picture on Facebook of a dresser my brother built for someone- said that makes it a business and denied his claim !
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Be careful in what you admit to - the insurance company has a way of using it against you! My brother had a fire and his garage burned to the ground- luckily he pushed out his ‘53 ford truck while on fire against fireman recommendations because later they found a picture on Facebook of a dresser my brother built for someone- said that makes it a business and denied his claim !
My insurance company knows it is there. But yes- I know what you are talking about. I went through that in 2020 with a house we had just bought to resell.
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Be careful in what you admit to - the insurance company has a way of using it against you! My brother had a fire and his garage burned to the ground- luckily he pushed out his ‘53 ford truck while on fire against fireman recommendations because later they found a picture on Facebook of a dresser my brother built for someone- said that makes it a business and denied his claim !
I hope he was able to fight them on that one. Sounds a bit bogus. I was fortunate that when I had my disaster that both my business and personal policy covered my loss.
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Looks great
Tom H
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Sorry, he didn’t get a dime for garage and all his tools - just the charred siding on his house.unless you got a big bank roll they make the rules…
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Be careful in what you admit to - the insurance company has a way of using it against you! My brother had a fire and his garage burned to the ground- luckily he pushed out his ‘53 ford truck while on fire against fireman recommendations because later they found a picture on Facebook of a dresser my brother built for someone- said that makes it a business and denied his claim !
I hope he was able to fight them on that one. Sounds a bit bogus. I was fortunate that when I had my disaster that both my business and personal policy covered my loss.
Insurance will always find a way. Years ago they denied my porch claim when a try fell on it because it was not listed as part of the original policy (many years ago)
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Spent our first night at the new place. We still have some unpacking and moving to do, but we finally made it here.
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Congratulations, you have a lot of time and hard work invested in your new home. Relax and enjoy!
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Wow. That was fast. Seems like just yesterday, you were breaking ground.
Now, for those little "finishing" touches. Like when to install the upstairs bed room baseboards? (Oh wait..maybe that was me) :lol:
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Wow. That was fast. Seems like just yesterday, you were breaking ground.
Now, for those little "finishing" touches. Like when to install the upstairs bed room baseboards? (Oh wait..maybe that was me) :lol:
I doubt I ever finish the upstairs rooms. It has a tub/shower unit, and all the plumbing ran up there for shower, commode and lavatory. It has two electrical runs ( one for the bathroom and one for the room itself) that are capped off. Subfloor is all I have done, and probably it will stay that way until someone else owns it.
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"Until someone else owns it?" Is it for sale?
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"Until someone else owns it?" Is it for sale?
Just a nod towards the day that we are no longer physically able keep the farm up, and we have to move to a town/subdivision; or to the nursing home :sad:
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Hopefully not for many decades.
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Sloping my yard the way I want it, and installing underground gutter drain piping.
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Tonka toys for big kids
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Looking great Mike! I'll have to get some tips from you since my wife and I decided that 1/3 acre isn't enough space here in Virginia. :lol: We are closing on beautiful 2.25 acre lot on a quiet cul de sac and plan to build a house over the next year.
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Looks like fun Mike! I miss my heavy iron :sad: Its good to get the grade correct (one think pop always stressed, never build a house too low) and so many do. Also nice to bury the downspout leaders and get away from the house, even though you dont have a basement. Around here we need to connect them to a drywall, another $30k expense!
Did you move in yet?
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Mike, nice looking estate you have there. I like the large wrap around porch. I hope you get a chance to sit down and put your feet up in the not too distant future.
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Added two more [pieces today. A larger excavator to clean out around pond #1.
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And a Harley rake to begin pulverizing and leveling the yard. (Clock the top pic for the video).
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Looks like fun Mike! I miss my heavy iron :sad: Its good to get the grade correct (one think pop always stressed, never build a house too low) and so many do. Also nice to bury the downspout leaders and get away from the house, even though you dont have a basement. Around here we need to connect them to a drywall, another $30k expense!
Did you move in yet?
We moved in April 17.
Mike, nice looking estate you have there. I like the large wrap around porch. I hope you get a chance to sit down and put your feet up in the not too distant future.
Thank you. I hope so too!
Looking great Mike! I'll have to get some tips from you since my wife and I decided that 1/3 acre isn't enough space here in Virginia. :lol: We are closing on beautiful 2.25 acre lot on a quiet cul de sac and plan to build a house over the next year.
Tip number 1: Order your load center NOW, especially if you will need a 400 amp service for a house and a shop. Currently running 6 months from order to delivery, and the price has doubled in the past year alone.
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Thread from the dead :lol:
Still waiting on the day that I get to kick back and relax on the porch. Actually, I'm not geared that way, I guess. I have to be doing something.
I decided to clean out the smaller front pond. First myth I busted- Deere can swim :lol:
The first 4 passes through the pond went smoothly starting at the north side bank. It seems that there is a big hole near the south pond bank. Jimmy was running the excavator, across the field and he came out and gave the old Deere a gentle tug and pulled me back to solid ground.
And we started spraying, getting ready to plant corn. We are going to dress a couple erosion trouble spots today (hopefully, if all goes smooth) before they become an issue, and lay erosion blankets. Almost corn time!
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YIKES, I have been in some precarious situations with yellow iron, but never in a submarine :grin: Glad you had something on hand to get you out. Field is looking great. How many acres are you farming?
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I have less than 100 acres total of tendable ground. I partner with Thompson Farms; he does over 14,000 acres locally.
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Thats good that you can partner with someone. One of my customers has about 600 tillable acres but they are 'gentleman farmers' The property is owned by brothers whom both live off site. They lease out their land to a large farming conglomerant, much like the one you are talking about I would imagine. I forget the total land they lease and farm but its also many thousands of acres spread throughout multiple counties.
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As of yesterday afternoon. From this pond (aka mudhole) that was full of eroded topsoil from years of neglect on the farm before we bought it. There was over 3 feet of topsoil that we dug out of it. PIC 1
To this, after cleaning out over 12 triaxle loads of topsoil: PIC 2
For comparison, the first pic has the lightly-stuck dozer :lol: Look how close the far pond bank is. In the second pic, that same dozer is at the top of the pond, and the excavator is to the far left side.
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Wow, big difference.
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Looks great Mike!
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Wow, that’s an impressive amount of property you have there.