TAC Tech => Garages & Shops => Topic started by: ryeguy2006a on May 28, 2021, 08:50:58 AM
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I'll do my best to restart this thread, but since I started it last year the prices of plywood and 2x4's have gone crazy. I'm hoping that maybe towards the end of the year they will come back down because I would like to get it enclosed this year so I don't have to look at this unfinished project anymore haha. Plus it would be nice to have it functional as a garage.
Here is where my project started. The building started off as a heated dog shed, then the previous owner installed an outdoor wood boiler and added a large lean-to off the side to keep the wood dry. We sold the wood boiler, so I figured it would be fairly quick and easy to convert it to a useable garage space. Either for the yard tractor or my car.
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The "trouble" with this is that the lean-to off the side tapers about 15" from the lowest grade to the highest grade. So I need to dig down on the high side so that I have a flat and level floor.
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I decided that it would be easier to start on the back side and that is where I began deconstruction.
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Pretty stoked that this first wall went up fairly quickly. As long as this continues to go this way, I'll be a happy guy. (Spoiler, it doesn't go my way)
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Everything is going great, let's move onto the next section! Then I found this when I started pulling off of the siding... I guess that explains why it leaked when it would rain.
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Pretty rotted the whole way across. So I completely replaced the bottom 2x4 and replaced with a pair of treated boards, then cut out the bad OSB and spliced in new.
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Then per a recommendation from Kerry, I added some flashing to prevent the water from entering again.
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After a little thought, I really didn't like where the door was and if I moved it to the lower section, I wouldn't have to cut into the soffet like it was currently. Made for a cleaner look to me. So I framed it up and wrapped it.
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Then as I was working on this, I was also keeping an eye out for some garage doors for the front. So far I'm really happy with the way it's turning out. I'm just a handyman and not doing this for a living.
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Now that the walls were framed up, I wanted to get the siding put on one side to keep my better half happy.
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Again, not a professional, but I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out. So far I've only had to buy some screws, 2x4's and plywood.
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Next up was to frame the garage doors. Since there is a lot of tension from the doors, I opted to replace the boards that were there with a header board and frame up the top.
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Then I added some plywood to the outside and wrapped it up. I was pretty lucky, or skilled however you want to look at it, but this was all done with one piece of plywood!
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Now it was time to turn my attention to the lean-to side and how I wanted to approach it. So I decided to add a few knee walls up the sides between the posts. Then I can level the floor up to those walls.
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First one was done and easy!
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The next few weren't quite as easy, but still making progress.
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And the last one on the long side is done.
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It was getting later in the fall now and I was really just trying to get the most solid wall coverings at possible, so I turned back to the garage doors. I started out by building a header panel.
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Then framed up around it and installed both doors.
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Moving around the building I framed up the next section between the posts.
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Then I started framing up above the second garage door.
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Now that I was about done with all of the walls for the fall, I came back around to at least finish the one complete side of the building with siding and soffet.
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Finished and my buddy was helping me clean off the grass clippings from sitting all summer.
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That brings me up to the present day. I've been tinkering on it here and there. I'll try and get some new and updated pictures as I continue to work on it.
Cheers,
Ryan
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I'm glad you posted some of the old pics., good progress.
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x2. Nice looking finished structure. Not an ordinary box thanx to the adaptation to the original design. Def would add 40% to the cost of the garage if it was planned to be built that way from the beginning.
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I agree. It looks differently stylish and that is a whole lot of gained useable space! The flashing near the slab is a great idea to prevent moisture from getting near the OSB. Well done.
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Thanks guys! I'm pretty happy with the way that it's turning out. It's been a slow process, but I've been slowly moving the stones and leveling out the floor on the side. I also painted the doors on the front to match our house garage.
I need to re-adjust the door on the left.
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Right now it's an absolute mess... It's just a catch all, but once the floor is finished off I can work on getting the structure enclosed. I also scored a deal on another insulated 9 x 6' 6" door with an opener for $200 bucks! It's actually way nicer than the ones that I got last year. I would have liked to get a taller door, but the way the roof pitches, I couldn't sneak in a proper header panel with anything taller than 6' 6". So it worked perfect for me.
It's a little cleaner now and I'm almost done removing the soil underneath. I can't wait to get an even surface to start bringing in some shelves that I have.
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Once the floor is finished, I will reluctantly buy the rest of the materials to finish enclosing it. I need to get some siding on the front so that my wife will quit bugging me haha.
Cheers,
Ryan
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Turned out nice Ryan,
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Looks really great! I’m sure you will be happy with it when it’s all done!
Jim
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Well I'll need a place to put that TATA if I end up with Kerry's old project. :lol:
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Making a little more progress. Starting to get the soffit and trim tin installed. I'm going to plug away to finish off the front of the building.
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Ryan,
This turned out really nice. I like the architecture, much nicer than a typical garage. I bet you are anxious to get the outside completed before it starts getting cold.
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It’s completely unrecognizable from the “before “ pictures when you started. Simply amazing!
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Trust me, you will have a huge weight off your shoulders when you come home from work and see a finished product, not something that you know you need to work on. Its nice to have a project to keep you busy, but after awhile it becomes a job.
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I know what you mean Kerry. I've been looking at this half completed side for over a year now and I want to just wrap up the front side so it at least looks finished. Then I will turn my attention to the back sides of the building. I'd love to get it fully enclosed this year, even if it's only boarded up and wrapped on the back sides.
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I've been plugging away over the last week, but got a few hours without kids around to get some real work done yesterday. I was able to get the entire section above the garage enclosed and wrapped. The section near the peak where the lean to meets up had some tricky sections, but I got it all to match up and I'm very happy with the results.
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Next up is trying to find some siding that will match up closely with the existing siding on the other side. I want to get it close enough that most won't notice that it's a different color. Wish me luck.
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Nice work. Looks good
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You're going to love that this winter!
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I’m waiting for the business sign “Ryan’s Muscle Motors” or something of the like to go up on that garage. Do it! haha
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Driveway next?
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Haha, thanks guys. I can't wait to get it fully enclosed for sure. I need to get some shelves, hooks and storage bins to get stuff off the floor!
I wouldn't mind flipping cars if I had a place to do it. Maybe that could be my next business venture. :cool:
Jack, I'd love to do a driveway to that but.... Looks are deceiving. The right "bay" of the garage has the floor tiered every 10' or so, so it's not a straight through. The left side will be flat and 30' long and 11' wide so it will make for a nice work bay. The rest I will have to get creative on to make it all useful.
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Made a little more progress this weekend. I was able to get the main beam built and installed. I also framed up the area where I'll be installing the 6.5' x 9' door. Now that the prices of lumber are coming down, I should be making more progress toward getting the rest of the building enclosed. I'm looking forward to having more walls built so that I can add shelves and hooks to get stuff out of my way. This building has unfortunately become a catch all for stuff I don't want to look at.
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Next will be framing the section above it and covering it with OSB and sheathing. That shouldn't take too long since I already have the materials. Then I'm need to dig down and get the back footer wall poured. That will be very interesting, so I'll keep you all posted.
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Nice!
My old neighbor had a very large shop/garage. The owner before him worked on his tractor trailers in it for an idea on size. Charlie (now deceased) was an avid Pontiac guy and primarily worked on flipping/restoring cars. At one time he put up a large banner that read "Charlies Garage". The county came in right away and shut him down as the location is residential. He still worked on cars, just got rid of the sign. Sometimes its better to fly below the radar.
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Made some more progress on my garage build. Got the section above the main beam framed in and ready for some OSB. I also grabbed some more siding J channel to finish off the front side of the building. I found a perfect match for my siding from Lowe's, just have to drive to a slightly farther store to get it. I'm hoping to pick that up tomorrow or Friday so that I can get started on the finishing touches on the front side of the building. My wife will be SOO happy once that is done.
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Made some huge progress yesterday towards getting this building weathered in. I have been working here and there digging down where the footer wall will go. I finally got it dug down to where it will be below the eventual slab of concrete that I'll pour. It took me a while to figure out how I wanted to build the forms, but once I had that figured out, it went pretty quickly. I still had a little deformation of the forms on the one side, but overall I'm super happy with how it came out. I had to build a little, step in the concrete for it to meet up with the existing slab.
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23 bags of concrete was right at the max bed capacity for my truck, and I could definitely feel that weight back there. Was pretty happy too, I found an air stapler at Lowe's that was marked down 50% since it was a display piece. Got it for $24 bucks and it is a quality Bostitch piece. I tested it out and it does a much nicer job than the manual one I have.
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And here's the final product after I finished it. The wall took 17 bags which was a lot of mixing! I probably should have just rented a mixer, but I got a good workout so it's all good.
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I'll let this cure for a few days and then pull off the forms. The walls should go up pretty quickly, and I'm pretty sure I found a really good match for the siding at Lowe's. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Cheers,
Ryan
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Looks great!
Mixing 17 bags by hand is an awful lot of work, my back and arms would be hurting big time.
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I’ve said it before and will say it again- your progress is amazing!
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Thanks Mike! Hopefully once the walls go up and it's sided, it will be my last home improvement project for a while.
And yes, 17 bags was a lot of work. I had my boys help spray the water when we mixed. They had a lot of fun too with the extra concrete so that was fun to see them out working along with me.
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As said....looks like a great family project.
You'll enjoy it for years to come!
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With fall in full force here in NY, I'm really trying to make a push to get the structure enclosed before the cold weather hits. It's hard to tell from the pictures exactly what is going on, but on the left where the ladder and the right where the air compressor stands is roughly the level of the floor that I need. That should give me roughly 5" of concrete which will be fine when I go to pour the floor this spring.
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It doesn't look like much, but my goal for the weekend was to get the remaining soil removed and the smaller concrete pad removed. I was only using a pickaxe, shovel and my garden tractor with a small wagon. This would have been wayyy faster if I had a loader tractor. But that wasn't an option for me unfortunately. Here's where I started on Friday after work.
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After about 10 wagon loads of soil or concrete chunks, this is what it looks like.
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I came so close to finishing, but didn't quite have enough time after the kiddos woke up from naptime. I think that this turned out to be a good thing, because I think what I want to do is actually pour the step right now rather than after the pad is done. I had always planned on pouring the step last, but I think I'm going to do it now, because I have about 8 bags of concrete that I need to use up. I think it will work out pretty nice.
I'm excited to get back to the framing and siding part of the build. I definitely enjoy doing that more than the soil work. Although pouring the concrete has been pretty fun too. The next updates should hopefully be filled with closing off the back of the building and installing the garage door.
It won't be in the cards this year, but my neighbor is selling me a wood pellet stove for a really good price. So maybe next year I can get it insulated and wired up for 220v.
Thanks,
Ryan
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You moved a lot of dirt/rock in a short time. Ah, to be young again! You probably should use that concrete, as it will draw moisture over the winter and be useless by spring.
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Yeah, that's a good point actually. I'm going to work on forming up a step that will transition that slab where my miter saw is down to the level where my lower level will eventually be. Hopefully I can just use up the bags I have. My kids poked holes in all 7 of the bags I have so there's no returning them now...
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Yes, those sacrete bags will def. harden over the winter and you will have some more blocks of concrete to cart around. The comment about your kids poking holes in them brought up a funny memory. We were at a rest. when my daughter was about 1 or 2. She is 30 now. There was a bowl full of coffee creamers on the table. The kind with the foil tops. She took a bite into each one of them with her 2 front teeth. By the time we realized what she was doing she had gone through the whole bowl. Each one had two punctures. Kinda looked like a vampire was making his mark.
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Yeah, I'm going to frame up a few steps to get from the uppers section in the rear down to the new lower level. Hopefully I can do that sometime this weekend to use those bags up.
After looking around for quite a while, I was able to find some siding that matches really closely to the old siding. I had to go to another Lowe's that was a little farther away, but worth the trip. I've been plugging away at getting the trim up around the inside of the doors and the J-channels re-used. I'm trying to use as many leftovers as I can to make this project easier on my pockets. I had my helpers out with me a few times.
Blends together really well.
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Now I'm halfway done with the siding on the front. I'm so happy with the way that it turned out. I should be able to find a few minutes here and there this weekend to install the rest of the J-Channel and door trim. I still need to buy one more corner siding piece and then I'll be able to finish the siding above the other door. Once that is complete, I want to either finish enclosing the building or work on pouring those steps. Either way I'm getting very close to having a weathered in building!
Best,
Ryan
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looking good, as always. I think you are going to beat the winter weather.
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Looks really nice. You will be so happy when the outside is buttoned up.
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It's always nice to have a weather tight building also to protected the wood.
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I made some time around lunchtime Saturday when the kiddos were sleeping and then buttoned up the front Sunday afternoon. It feels great to have this part done, and so nice looking at a finished building. Although as my older son pointed out, "But the inside still looks terrible Dad." Kids are great aren't they??
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I was able to get this far on Saturday. That piece right above the doors was very tricky. I was able to get it in one piece though so I was pretty happy with that.
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Then I was able to finish Sunday. Feels great having a finished appearing building.
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I didn't work on the step in the back, but instead worked on my fuel pump for the old Camaro. I really wanted to drive it again and did just that. :cool:
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Ryan,
The results speak for themselves, it really turned out nice!
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Thank you sir! My wife is very pleased with the results. We've had to stare at that for a long time. Can't wait to get the rest enclosed.
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What a difference! That looks soooooo good! Congrats on another major step.
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Been plugging away slowly and was able to accomplish another major step... :lol:
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Not only did I pour the step that will transition from the upper section down to the lower, I have completed leveling the main floor! That was the last main thing that I wanted to get done since the weather has been slowly turning colder at night... Been below freezing a few nights now in a row. Good thing is I was able to get the steps poured before the it dipped below freezing.
Next up is to throw up some walls, cover them with OSB, and then building wrap. Hopefully I can do that in the next few weeks since I don't want to be freezing doing it... There's also the garage door that I'd like to at least get installed and functional before we get snow... Lots to do.
Lastly, I was able to pick up this really nice table from my buddies dad who is moving to Florida. (lucky...) He's a tall guy like me and built the top nice and high. No more bending over for me! It's really rugged, he just didn't want to move it down there. Best part is it's on casters so I can put it in that front room and roll it out of my way if I need to.
Best,
Ryan
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Looks great, but a lot of hard work. I don't know how you find time to do this and work on your car.
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What he said! ↑↑↑
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Got a little more done, and the garage is that much closer to being closed in. I put a board up on the upper section above the rear garage door. I was able to get that piece up in two cuts, so I'm pretty happy with that.
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Then I finished the sides, and wrapped what was done. The side to the right I left open for now because I still need to frame up a wall and connect it to what I have existing. That will be a little tricky, so I left it open for now to give it some thought.
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I was going to get the rest of my 2x4's and a few more sheets of plywood over the weekend, but had the kiddos with me. They didn't have enough patience for that after we got groceries. I'm hoping that the weather holds out for next weekend and I can get everything enclosed. I also need to think about a few windows to brighten it up in there. :lol:
Thanks,
Ryan
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I got excited yesterday and wanted to see how the doors would look installed. I wanted to mock up the tracks because the left side in the picture needs to be modified quite a bit, but threw the other side on just because. I got excited and before I knew, they were all installed haha. They will need to come off to be adjusted, but at least now they will stop the wind/rain/snow.
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Then it started snowing and I saw this really nice sunset. I'm not a photographer, but this was a cool picture.
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Best,
Ryan
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The "S" word! At least you can now keep all that nasty stuff outside. Good job.
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Looking good and just in time.
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Thanks guys. Hoping to grab a few more sheets of plywood and 2x4's this weekend. It shouldn't take me too long to frame up the walls and put the plywood up. And my pneumatic staple gun works so much quicker than the handheld one I have. Got that one on sale at Lowe's for $24 bucks.
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Very nice, I like the last pic.
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Looking good Ryan. Not sure about that snow thing though :shock:
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I finally went to Lowe's on Saturday and got the materials that I needed. I started plugging away at framing up the walls.
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Once I framed up the one wall, I decided to add the upper sections of the OSB plywood to the other sections of walls. This part goes so quickly because it's just two cuts and some screws, then you have a finished wall.
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I framed up the last section of the long wall and about that time the boys woke up from nap and came out to help me. I let them help tap in nails that hold up the flashing after I cut it.
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It was dinner time as I finished up the lower flashing and after the boys went in to eat, I quickly threw up a short section of the house wrap to help protect the lower section of the plywood. I'm going to leave that lower section because I want to add some windows in on one of the walls so I don't want to make more work for myself later on. It should be easy enough to add next spring/summer.
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I'm so happy to have it look like a complete wall now! I've been looking at this for 2 years now, with various doors or wood leaned up against it. I want to get some ladder racks, and hangers to organize things on the back side of the garage. I think I'm just going to get some barn boards for the back and paint it something close to the siding color. That way I can easily add some hooks and hangers without having to worry about the siding leaking or anything. I also need some gutters.
I've got some time off now around Thanksgiving so I should be able to get the last section of wall finished. Then the real work begins because I need to figure out the wiring, lights and getting organized! Also the back garage door is only temporarily up because I need to modify the track on the one side because of how tight it is to the one side. If I can get that done this week too it would be great so I can move my lawn tractor up there which will free up a ton of room.
Thanks,
Ryan
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I was able to get a few days to work on my garage and made a ton of progress. It took me two days (working a few hours during naptime) to get the big wall framed up. I'm not a contractor, so I'm just learning it all as I go.
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Once the walls were framed, I was able to get the OSB up pretty quickly. I still had to figure out how to frame up and tie it into the upper section. I finally came up with a plan and made it happen.
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I got the OSB installed just in time for the snow! So glad that I pushed as hard as I did the last few weekends and during the few days I had off around Thanksgiving!
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Then finally yesterday I was able to get the flashing installed and the big wall wrapped up. What a relief! I need about another hour and I can get that last section filled in with OSB and it will be 100% sealed up. I know that if I don't seal that up now, I'll have birds making nests somewhere. With the cold and snow, I'm loosing motivation pretty quickly.
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The only thing left that I want to do to the building this year is add some wiring for lights and get the back garage door functional. It's so dark now that it's all enclosed. I already have lights on the side that I just enclosed, but they need to be re-wired to a light switch I'm going to install by the pedestrian door. I also want to add two additional lights and want them to all come on with one switch.
That's likely the last update until spring. I'd like to get the side I just enclosed sided to match the front, and then the back wall be board and batten. That way I can add hooks and hangers to get my ladders and other big tools out of the garage.
Cheers,
Ryan
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Sweet! Well, except for that white stuff on the ground. I think your garage is going to be all closed up and dried in for the winter. Congrats!!!
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Thanks Mike! Like you said, I'm just happy to have it weathered in. My neighbor is going to sell me his old pellet stove so I'll have heat. Without insulation though, it is pretty much useless at this point haha. It's weird, but it actually feels bigger inside the garage now that it's all finished inside.
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Good job man. You’re an all-around skilled person between work, home renovation, mechanics, etc. Most people can only do one area of expertise.
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Good job man. You’re an all-around skilled person between work, home renovation, mechanics, etc. Most people can only do one area of expertise.
And if you have ever purchased a previously owned "Anything" you find out real quick just how good they were at that one area of "Expertise"....lol....
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Thanks Jonathan, I appreciate the compliment.
It's very temporary, but I finally have some lights again! Now I can see what I'm doing and can make some progress over the winter. It will be nice having a space to cut grind and weld where I don't have to worry about fumes coming into the house!
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I need to find some time to get the rear garage door modified and installed so I can open it up and park my lawn tractor in there. Then I need to find some time to close off that last section of the back wall. Otherwise, I'm done working on the building for now. I'll be re-arranging everything and generally cleaning up.
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Yay for lights, and a place to work without worries!