TAC Tech => Electrical => Topic started by: jonathonar89 on April 07, 2021, 08:02:29 PM

Title: Philips LED Sealed Beam Headlights
Post by: jonathonar89 on April 07, 2021, 08:02:29 PM
Thought I would pass along this product reference if anyone is looking for a sealed beam LED headlight from a legitimate brand.  I've seen so many knock-off H4 and LED upgrade headlights over the years but I didn't know Philips got into the LED headlight game.  A bit pricey but I splurged and ordered for my Trans Am since I need to replace mine anyways.  We'll see how they work. 

I quickly looked on ebay, Amazon and some other places but I found Rock Auto had the best price for my application so, below are some links for anyone else who may interested...

4x6 Hi Beam
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=11677177&cc=1250581&jsn=431&_nck=Ekt6BqBF1pwlXdx0gYlm1U17wbyQURW%2FJtcimnkkjpPvCpOUBflZuT3ZK04fYhcuDBv1UV5hzXTcAoSfo35W1Gfvt6q4ZMWy80wjjG%2BjzBq3qQ%2BAb9XJzVOTPhK2OQ1AaYEbQoIK2JjlJxr862DWdq4kFRESiep2ykUmf3HptlQ7gRGiRLtuslXwf1ikw%2BcEhSsLf%2FY4NGAfexnDRYGD8IBrT7ARW7WIK9qHDAJhL810ztkudCUvXoa2pYTKSr9EeXDJmRwRTNjR7PJNav3TmU%2FTLCDnAc7MoKZks5RfSbxA%2BoA1HmwPS47ZWNzxi4wftpHWFZfGGjAJqsVAqvgW7aSDwsvBPHRpGcdiSLow1BGwzIoEJ8TN3JtL5Qc9mjsVGqiXmwPS6YA%3D&jsn=431&_nck=Ekt6BqBF1pwlXdx0gYlm1U17wbyQURW%2FJtcimnkkjpPvCpOUBflZuT3ZK04fYhcuDBv1UV5hzXTcAoSfo35W1Gfvt6q4ZMWy80wjjG%2BjzBq3qQ%2BAb9XJzVOTPhK2OQ1AaYEbQoIK2JjlJxr862DWdq4kFRESiep2ykUmf3HptlQ7gRGiRLtuslXwf1ikw%2BcEhSsLf%2FY4NGAfexnDRYGD8IBrT7ARW7WIK9qHDAJhL810ztkudCUvXoa2pYTKSr9EeXDJmRwRTNjR7PJNav3TmU%2FTLCDnAc7MoKZks5RfSbxA%2BoA1HmwPS47ZWNzxi4wftpHWFZfGGjAJqsVAqvgW7aSDwsvBPHRpGcdiSLow1BGwzIoEJ8TN3JtL5Qc9mjsVGqiXmwPS6YA%3D

4x6 Low Beam
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=11677181&cc=1250581&jsn=432&_nck=Ekt6BqBF1pwlXdx0gYlm1U17wbyQURW%2FJtcimnkkjpPvCpOUBflZuT3ZK04fYhcuDBv1UV5hzXTcAoSfo35W1Gfvt6q4ZMWy80wjjG%2BjzBq3qQ%2BAb9XJzVOTPhK2OQ1AaYEbQoIK2JjlJxr862DWdq4kFRESiep2ykUmf3HptlQ7gRGiRLtuslXwf1ikw%2BcEhSsLf%2FY4NGAfexnDRYGD8IBrT7ARW7WIK9qHDAJhL810ztkudCUvXoa2pYTKSr9EeXDJmRwRTNjR7PJNav3TmU%2FTLCDnAc7MoKZks5RfSbxA%2BoA1HmwPS47ZWNzxi4wftpHWFZfGGjAJqsVAqvgW7aSDwsvBPHRpGcdiSLow1BGwzIoEJ8TN3JtL5Qc9mjsVGqiXmwPS6YA%3D&jsn=432&_nck=Ekt6BqBF1pwlXdx0gYlm1U17wbyQURW%2FJtcimnkkjpPvCpOUBflZuT3ZK04fYhcuDBv1UV5hzXTcAoSfo35W1Gfvt6q4ZMWy80wjjG%2BjzBq3qQ%2BAb9XJzVOTPhK2OQ1AaYEbQoIK2JjlJxr862DWdq4kFRESiep2ykUmf3HptlQ7gRGiRLtuslXwf1ikw%2BcEhSsLf%2FY4NGAfexnDRYGD8IBrT7ARW7WIK9qHDAJhL810ztkudCUvXoa2pYTKSr9EeXDJmRwRTNjR7PJNav3TmU%2FTLCDnAc7MoKZks5RfSbxA%2BoA1HmwPS47ZWNzxi4wftpHWFZfGGjAJqsVAqvgW7aSDwsvBPHRpGcdiSLow1BGwzIoEJ8TN3JtL5Qc9mjsVGqiXmwPS6YA%3D

7" Round Hi/Lo Beam
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=11677185&cc=1250109&jsn=517&_nck=Ekt6BqBF1pwlXdx0gYlm1U17wbyQURW%2FJtcimnkkjpPvCpOUBflZuT3ZK04fYhcuDBv1UV5hzXTcAoSfo35W1Gfvt6q4ZMWy80wjjG%2BjzBq3qQ%2BAb9XJzVOTPhK2OQ1AaYEbQoIK2JjlJxr862DWdq4kFRESiep2ykUmf3HptlQ7gRGiRLtuslXwf1ikw%2BcEhSsLf%2FY4NGAfexnDRYGD8IBrT7ARW7WIK9qHDAJhL810ztkudCUvXoa2pYTKSr9EeXDJmRwRTNjR7PJNav3TmU%2FTLCDnAc7MoKZks5RfSbxA%2BoA1HmwPS47ZWNzxi4wftpHWFZfGGjAJqsVAqvgW7aSDwsvBPHRpGcdiSLow1BGwzIoEJ8TN3JtL5Qc9mjsVGqiXmwPS6YA%3D


Before I'm able to get around to do a review, anyone have experience with these?
Title: Re: Philips LED Sealed Beam Headlights
Post by: MNBob on April 08, 2021, 11:35:22 AM
Thanks for the links, those look nice.  They have more of a clean, stock like appearance.

Some of the LED's I have seen look more "busy" visually.  Here are a couple of examples:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MZ3KXDY?pf_rd_r=JCMJ3R4TCT0JAXH85NFR&pf_rd_p=5ae2c7f8-e0c6-4f35-9071-dc3240e894a8&pd_rd_r=440d8b4f-332d-4c96-8655-1639010268fd&pd_rd_w=1a1Om&pd_rd_wg=EpC18&ref_=pd_gw_unk (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MZ3KXDY?pf_rd_r=JCMJ3R4TCT0JAXH85NFR&pf_rd_p=5ae2c7f8-e0c6-4f35-9071-dc3240e894a8&pd_rd_r=440d8b4f-332d-4c96-8655-1639010268fd&pd_rd_w=1a1Om&pd_rd_wg=EpC18&ref_=pd_gw_unk)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08LGKHTBP/?coliid=I2YC39XI2F80V3&colid=213WUMC3Q7EKR&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08LGKHTBP/?coliid=I2YC39XI2F80V3&colid=213WUMC3Q7EKR&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it)
Title: Re: Philips LED Sealed Beam Headlights
Post by: jonathonar89 on April 08, 2021, 12:03:39 PM
The ones I’ve seen with the best review aside from the Philips is JW Speaker.  They look nice but are NOT CHEAP!  Pretty cool that you can get heated headlights and even ones with built-in turn signals these days.

https://www.jwspeaker.com/products/#application%5B%5D=automotive&product_category%5B%5D=headlights
Title: Re: Philips LED Sealed Beam Headlights
Post by: TATurbo on April 23, 2021, 10:19:23 PM
I can't speak for the Phillips LED bulbs.  But, FWIW...
 I've used a couple of sets of LED headlights from HeadlightExperts.com.
These here:
https://www.headlightexperts.com/carfinder?find=1981-pontiac-firebird-25647&sid=WfJdfxIGoZ

They are not sealed beam, but they do come with a very stock-looking glass housing. I could recommend these for someone wanting to retain stock appearing 'bulbs'.   These fit good, are nice and white without much blue, and are very much brighter than the brightest Halogen bulbs I've tried (And I went through a few Halogen sets before finally installing LED's. 

I recently bought a 2017 Challenger.  In the daylight I thought the car had HID's because sometime around them they started using Halogen bulbs behind the HID style 'lense' housings.   Even those relatively modern Halogen bulbs were terrible.  Maybe my eyes are aging poorly, but IMHO I think Halogen bulbs are not safe these days.  Modern headlights are so bright most oncoming vehicles just drown out the light coming from the Halogens.   

It's a pricey upgrade, but I didn't feel safe driving at night without HID's or LED's.   Being comfortable behind the wheel was worth every penny.

Good Luck...Be sure to let us know how you like the Phillips LED's.
Title: Re: Philips LED Sealed Beam Headlights
Post by: Wallington on April 24, 2021, 06:48:41 AM
You need to really do a lot of night driving to make it remotely worthwhile, because they absolutely ruin a classic vehicle driven during the day by how they look.
Title: Re: Philips LED Sealed Beam Headlights
Post by: jonathonar89 on April 24, 2021, 08:00:10 AM
You need to really do a lot of night driving to make it remotely worthwhile, because they absolutely ruin a classic vehicle driven during the day by how they look.

Don't worry, I already know you don't like half the stuff I say/post on this forum  :lol:  Been through this a few times  :P
Title: Re: Philips LED Sealed Beam Headlights
Post by: Wallington on April 24, 2021, 09:50:11 AM
I don't like the look of fancy lights that are not in use, simple as that. By all means use them on your car. It's not about you, whoever you are.

The 3 in first post aren't too bad, what's the black strip on each? And does it need to be black?
Title: Re: Philips LED Sealed Beam Headlights
Post by: 81Blackbird on April 24, 2021, 10:11:56 AM
Please post a comparison of your new LEDs maybe one side with the  with the old headlights and one side with the new LED headlights
Title: Re: Philips LED Sealed Beam Headlights
Post by: firebirdparts on April 24, 2021, 03:02:57 PM
Those look pretty good to me, but that's a lot of money if you have to have 4.
Title: Re: Philips LED Sealed Beam Headlights
Post by: MNBob on April 25, 2021, 02:23:39 PM
Quote
Don't worry, I already know you don't like half the stuff I say/post on this forum  :lol:  Been through this a few times  :P

Don't feel like the lone ranger.  Wallington speaks his mind with all of us.  I guess it is a free country so he can have his opinion.
Title: Re: Philips LED Sealed Beam Headlights
Post by: Jerry455 on April 25, 2021, 06:17:00 PM
I have been using the other LED bulbs made by Philips from Rock Auto on my 1976 Firebird. I have installed the 194 dash lights and started with some of the other light bulbs, markers and license plate. The headlights were a little pricy right now. A little at a time.
Title: Re: Philips LED Sealed Beam Headlights
Post by: Savage Larry on June 11, 2021, 12:20:38 PM
Any update on these lights? Have you installed them yet? Are you using a relay kit or running them through your stock switch? Any idea of the current draw? I'm thinking about ordering these if the current draw is considerably less than halogens.
Title: Re: Philips LED Sealed Beam Headlights
Post by: Hoodshaker on June 11, 2021, 10:27:14 PM
It took me 6 months of going back and forth before I pulled the trigger on these due to the price. I only bought the low beams so far, and that may remain the case because I think my high beam halogens do a fine job of filling their holes and never being turned on without costing 2 bills to do so. I haven't installed them yet, but here are the full specs on the Phllips site-

https://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/L4656X1/led-integral-beam-lamp
Title: Re: Philips LED Sealed Beam Headlights
Post by: Wallington on June 13, 2021, 12:56:31 AM
what's the top stripe panel?
Title: Re: Philips LED Sealed Beam Headlights
Post by: roadking77 on June 13, 2021, 08:45:35 AM
I completely agree with Wallington on the looks department. But, if someone does drive their car a lot (unfortunately I dont) I can see them being a useful upgrade.
Title: Re: Philips LED Sealed Beam Headlights
Post by: nas t eh on June 13, 2021, 12:29:14 PM
Any update on these lights? Have you installed them yet? Are you using a relay kit or running them through your stock switch? Any idea of the current draw? I'm thinking about ordering these if the current draw is considerably less than halogens.

X2, be great if they will play nicely(plug and play) with old stock wiring harness and switches with out requiring any relay installation. I’ll throw out my half installed HID stuff, and go back to stock original wiring. Expensive yes, but not like the HID conversions are cheap or simple.
Title: Re: Philips LED Sealed Beam Headlights
Post by: jonathonar89 on June 15, 2021, 09:29:01 AM
Any update on these lights? Have you installed them yet? Are you using a relay kit or running them through your stock switch? Any idea of the current draw? I'm thinking about ordering these if the current draw is considerably less than halogens.

Hey Larry,

Me and my wife have been doing a decent amount of overtime between both of our jobs this past month….and switching off watching our 1 year old in between.  Haven’t been able to wrench on the car but it’s all been for good/better reasons.  I also purchased a 90’s Chevy truck a couple months ago and it’s turning into a bigger project than I initially anticipated.  The truck is more priority at this point but I will get back to posting about the car as soon as I can.

Jon