TAC Spotlight => Projects & Restorations => Topic started by: roadking77 on September 24, 2018, 07:44:15 AM

Title: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 24, 2018, 07:44:15 AM
Just a teaser.  I have been waiting patiently to start the resto on my latest acquisition, Tenth Anniv. 4 speed. I got this car by chance last December after the tenth I was working on was destroyed in a fire. I was cruising local CL and found the car somewhat close to me. Not really looking to get another, it was complete (partially disassembled) with matching motor and trans., and a price I couldn't refuse. At least that's the logic I used. It has been sitting in my friends barn since December waiting for my new shop to be completed. Fast forward, or maybe slow forward to now and my shop is complete enough to get the car moved in. Plan on doing that on Thursday this week then the games begin.

Check in next week, same bat time, same bat channel!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 24, 2018, 07:49:16 AM
https://flic.kr/p/2ahPabo
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 24, 2018, 07:52:43 AM
OK, tried to post a pic, but had to reset my computer this morning and it seems I have forgotten how to do flickr!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 79GoldnTan on September 24, 2018, 05:47:28 PM
Holy memory loss batman!  Lol wish I could help ya.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Jack on September 25, 2018, 04:13:54 AM
Let the games start.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 25, 2018, 07:48:53 AM
Sounds like you have some work to do Kerry!

For the pictures, look at the IMG code when you click on the arrow on the bottom right of the picture. I think the tab you need to go to is the BCC tab.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 25, 2018, 08:03:46 AM
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1913/44166168534_2705abb7ba_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ahPabo)2018-09-24_09-45-24 (https://flic.kr/p/2ahPabo) by Kerry Grubb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156399515@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 25, 2018, 08:07:20 AM
Thanks for the tip Ryan, I thought that's what I was doing but I couldn't get the image to copy. It seems to be working now. Car looks rough, but its actually about 100% better condition than my 77 was. Also enough parts thrown in to build about 3 cars! Should be a fairly simple strip and paint, then put back together. It would be nice to have it done for its 40th birthday next year and a trip to the nats! That's the goal Im shooting for anyway.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 25, 2018, 08:15:08 AM
Thanks for the tip Ryan, I thought that's what I was doing but I couldn't get the image to copy. It seems to be working now. Car looks rough, but its actually about 100% better condition than my 77 was. Also enough parts thrown in to build about 3 cars! Should be a fairly simple strip and paint, then put back together. It would be nice to have it done for its 40th birthday next year and a trip to the nats! That's the goal Im shooting for anyway.

Haha, I was thinking the same thing this year for my car's 50th! That honestly has been a huge motivator for me. Although when I told my wife she looked at me like I was completely nuts... At least I'm not the only one haha
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: MNBob on September 25, 2018, 10:50:45 AM
Congratulations, a TATA 4sp is a rare car.  It comes with an XX block too.

On Flickr, there is an up and right arrow on the photo page that makes a pop up window with a link that you can paste into your TA Country page.  I always edit it to remove my name and put the photo title at the bottom of the photo.

Also, if you need any stock type TATA parts, let me know because I have a lot of them.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 25, 2018, 02:33:36 PM
Im sure I will, as soon as I get it home I plan on stripping whats left and figuring out what I need. Pretty much everything is there but most all of it needs replaced.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Casey on September 25, 2018, 04:49:30 PM
Well you know I approve 100%, and that's all that really matters anyway. :P
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: TATurbo on September 25, 2018, 09:51:22 PM
Happy to hear you're recovering from the fire.  Looking forward to learning about your new TATA!  Good luck!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 4wheeling79 on September 25, 2018, 10:51:31 PM
Should be a fairly simple strip and paint, then put back together.

Oh no you had to go there my last car I said the same thing "just scuff and shoot it!" Kerry I will be following along as it progresses it will be a sweet ride when your done with it. Plus it will look awesome parked in the shop beside the 77 TA!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 27, 2018, 02:47:00 PM
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1939/44950494281_7d39d13393_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bu82U6)2018-09-27_11-13-46 (https://flic.kr/p/2bu82U6) by Kerry Grubb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156399515@N07/), on Flickr
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The eagle, or I guess I should say Pheonix has landed!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 27, 2018, 03:04:20 PM
Well, as promised Thursday is here an I finally got my car home. It has been parked in my friends barn since last winter. He has a pretty nice 4 wd farm car/Polaris type thing with a winch on the front. He was going to winch the car up on my trailer, but when we got there this morning I couldn't find him. So we did it the old fashioned way with a couple of come a-longs. Slow but it worked pretty good. Unloading was a bit more tricky, as I didn't want it to go too fast off the ramps and end up against a tree! Nestled nicely in the new shop waiting for my tear down. I got an 8 pack of led shop lights off of amazon and plan on getting them up tomorrow. I have a cabinet I need to build in the kitchen for my wife before I start the car though. Hoping to get that taken care of this weekend.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 27, 2018, 03:05:37 PM
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Forgot to add this pic. Loaded up and ready to hit the road for the 5 mile trip to my house.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 4wheeling79 on September 27, 2018, 08:14:42 PM
Nice! Should be a fun build and will break that new shop in pretty good. I will be on stand by waiting to see those tare down pics.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: rkellerjr on September 28, 2018, 05:12:46 AM
Pretty exciting, looking forward to the build
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on September 28, 2018, 07:44:01 AM
I think you may have bought the same shop lights. I bought to 8 packs. If they are the same size ones the seem to be really good for the money. Nice to see you got it home.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 30, 2018, 07:07:13 AM
Got the lights up plenty bright. In the 8 pack they came out to something like $18 a light. When I bought them by the piece at Lowes for my garage they were over $40 ea. Got the cabinet started in the kitchen (my wife laid down the law when she saw the car in the garage!), should finish it up today or tomorrow evening.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Grand73Am on September 30, 2018, 02:55:16 PM
Got the lights up plenty bright. In the 8 pack they came out to something like $18 a light. When I bought them by the piece at Lowes for my garage they were over $40 ea. Got the cabinet started in the kitchen (my wife laid down the law when she saw the car in the garage!), should finish it up today or tomorrow evening.

Looking forward to seeing your progress. Can you give a link to the LED bulbs you got from Amazon? I'm going to change out my fluorescent tubes with them, and would like to save some money. Thanks!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 79GoldnTan on September 30, 2018, 06:37:38 PM
Looking good, no fun when the law gets laid down tho.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on October 15, 2018, 03:11:21 PM
Found the key and got the trunk open. It was crammed full as well as the interior. Got everything cleaned out. Lots of extra stuff, tons of window channel, spoiler ends, trim parts, couple of sets of seats, and found the a/c box that was missing.
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on October 15, 2018, 03:13:52 PM
Good news is, its mostly solid. However there are a couple of small holes in the back floor.
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Front is solid as well as trunk floor.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on October 15, 2018, 03:21:29 PM
I still have a couple boxes of parts in my garage as well as the steering column and a spare one. Biggest thing that was missing were the mirror t tops. I found a real nice set from a guy on PY forum though. Biggest shocker is the pass. quarter has been replaced. There was a bunch of crap in the trunk when I picked it up and didn't see it. I was more concerned with the floors and frame. Doesn't make any diff, I still would have bought it, its just gonna be a bit more work back there than I thought. It looks really good on the outside but I can see a lap joint and pop rivets on the inside where it was replaced. I know I cant live with it like this. Also in the parts is a real nice dash bezel. Its wrapped in plastic right now but it doesn't look like engine turning in the swirls, almost looks like a checkered pattern. Would make a nice piece for a driver and I will sell it.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on October 15, 2018, 03:26:38 PM
grand am, sorry just saw your question. I have no idea how to post a link. I got the lights from amazon, they are 4' sealed units that have a plug on one end so they can daisy chain. They were sold in an 8 pack for something like $150. If you search led shop lights tons of stuff will come up, from singles to 10 packs, etc.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Grand73Am on October 15, 2018, 08:15:59 PM
Okay thanks, I'll take a look.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on October 16, 2018, 06:45:12 AM
Wow! That thing was packed with parts. Ya, the quarter surprise was probably a downer for sure. I know I couldn't stand leaving the rivets holding it together... Can't wait for you to dive in. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 16, 2018, 09:51:38 AM
Looks like a solid start for a project Kerry. Keep up the good work and get some heat in that garage!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: NOT A TA on October 16, 2018, 09:54:50 AM
The extra parts can help fund the resto!!! Good deal!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on October 16, 2018, 11:45:30 AM
Right now I just have temp elect hooked up and no heat, but its starting to get cold so I need to start thinking about that.
I plan on trying to sell some of the stuff, I wont need it and dont see any sense in stockpiling stuff at this point. Anything extra I can get will go a long way towards the resto. When I did my 77 I only used 'found money' to do the job. Money from side jobs, scrap, etc. One of the reasons it took so long. I would like to dive into this one head first and get it done as quickly as possible though.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on October 16, 2018, 03:01:23 PM
Love these cars...nice find!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 79GoldnTan on October 16, 2018, 06:51:24 PM
If there's an extra tach in that pile of parts I'll take it off your hands.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on October 25, 2018, 02:57:50 PM
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Started sanding. Took the deck lid off, theres a soft spot under one hinge that will need repaired, but the rest of the metal is very nice. No rust spots at all. I made an executive decision to leave the quarter panel that has been replaced alone. They actually did a pretty good job on the install, probably as good or better than i could do so i will leave it and clean the inside exposed edge up a bit. Found some original markings under the spoiler.
Question for those that have sanded down an original, did they use an orange/yellowish primer under the silver? There are several coats of primer on this car and the O/Y stuff is near the bottom. When i sanded the deck lid under the spoiler there was only silver and the O/Y stuff, no black. I am thinking this area  is original and untouched. You can see it in the last pic.

Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on October 25, 2018, 03:00:46 PM
Gold n Tan, sorry just saw your post, I do have an extra gauge cluster, let me know what youre looking for.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 79GoldnTan on November 04, 2018, 05:58:08 PM
RK, just need the tach, I would take the cluster if you don't want to separate. I picked a tack up from cl, looks the same from the front but everything on the back side is different, don't want to chop up my car to make it work, if you want to work something out let me know. Thanks
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: TATurbo on November 04, 2018, 09:54:37 PM
Looking good.  Can't wait to get my car out for Body work!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on November 05, 2018, 07:58:47 AM
79gt, I am in the process of moving stuff from my current shop into the new shop. I will see if I can find the box with the gauge cluster and post some pics in the next couple of days.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on November 05, 2018, 08:00:09 AM
I have been picking away slowly, I have most of the body sanded and just about ready for primer. One of the trunk hinge pockets was completely rusted through. I repaired that this past weekend, I will post the pics once I get them downloaded.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on November 05, 2018, 09:00:04 AM
I am so jealous of you guys with rust free project cars. That would take years off of my projects... Looks awesome!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on November 05, 2018, 04:00:38 PM
One of the reasons I even bought this one is because of the body condition. After doing all of the rusteration work on my 77 I wasn't about to go down that road again. There is a small hole in the rear floor pan, and a small hole in the front pass floor pan that should both be easy fixes. Other than that it is pretty solid. I took the taillights out and can look down into the rear pan and it is nice and solid as well. I guess the previous owner bought a new floor pan to fix the two spots but its for the dr. side. All it really needs is a bit of sheet metal which I have. Guessing I might sell the incorrect pan. The car that I lost in my fire was COMPLETELY free of any rust! Just about as solid as a second gen can get.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on November 06, 2018, 06:49:19 AM
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Hinge welded back into place. Need to clean up the welds a bit and get a coat of primer on, other than that its done. Didn't get a before but the hinge was all but falling off due to the pocket being rusted away.
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Someone asked for dimensions on where the hinge went, so before i took mine off i made a template with a couple of witness marks to line things back up properly. Once i had the hinge in place temporarily with a couple of sheet metal screws i bolted the trunk lid back up to check for alignment. I had to do that step a couple of times to get things dialed in just right. Once everything looked good i welded things up.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on November 06, 2018, 06:50:13 AM
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Quarter panel looks like it just rolled off the assembly line. I didn't know they could look this good! LOL.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on November 06, 2018, 09:02:28 AM
Great work! You probably have that new hinge in a better spot than the factory did. It seems this things we're all over the place resulting in miss-align deck lids and spoilers.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on November 07, 2018, 07:23:35 AM
Lookin good...I am fortunate enough that the back end of my car is not rusted out anywhere (that I remember), but I do have to figure out how to line up the deck lid better...sits high near the window.

I am excited to see this in the process and coming together...as mentioned, I love the TATA's...one of my favourites.

keep the pics coming!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: MNBob on November 07, 2018, 01:13:07 PM
Ditto, above.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on November 07, 2018, 02:55:52 PM
MNBob, I need to pick your ear on some colours.  I think you had some custom mixed for your touch up work. Also if you happen to know the codes for SEM paint on the interior.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Ryoko on November 08, 2018, 07:55:16 AM
Nice work on the hinge. They're in a tough spot to work with.

The deck hinges on my 79 and my 81 parts car both bind when trying to close the deck lid. You have to use a bit of force to get the lid to latch. I'm not sure what's going on with them. But I think I need to reset the hinges. It seems the factory was rather sloppy with them.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: ryeguy2006a on November 08, 2018, 09:24:27 AM
Looking good Kerry!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on November 26, 2018, 08:56:51 AM
Trunk lid had some surface rust around the (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4874/32146821318_014bf11720_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QYGRZY)2018-11-23_02-50-07 (https://flic.kr/p/QYGRZY) by Kerry Grubb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156399515@N07/), on Flickredges and at the hinges.
Sanded things to bare and hit with some spot primer.
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Got some touch up paint in a spray bomb, and did some touch up/feathering in. Paint matched pretty good. That is about all im going to do for the underside of the lid. I also got the inner trunk channel painted. I got the paint info from MN Bob's thread, good service and it matches pretty darn good.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Jack on November 26, 2018, 10:23:35 AM
Looks good and matches up nicely, just need to make sure there was no rust under the crease.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on November 26, 2018, 04:33:36 PM
It was pretty clean under the seams. I don't want to paint over any rust. I got the driver door off after work this evening and sanded it down. Took about an hour. Its also very solid.  A bit of surface rust on the bottom edge that should clean up pretty good.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on November 27, 2018, 08:45:10 AM
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Got the driver door off and sanded down. A tiny bit of surface rust on the bottom but other wise very nice. Not too many dings along the edge.
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on November 27, 2018, 09:28:29 AM
What are you using to remove the paint? 80 grit on a 6" air grinder?
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on November 27, 2018, 07:05:38 PM
Actually using 60 grit red diablo paper from home depot, 6in Ryobi random orbit electric. Gonna go over everything with 120 before I epoxy. There really wasn't that much paint on this car, it was previously stripped and primered so its coming off pretty easy. Took me about an hour to do the door. Unlike my 77 that had about 8 coats that I ended up chemically stripping. I used to buy small Makita sanders but the hook n loop pads would wear out and the replacement cost was almost as much as the sander. We go through 6 or 7 sanders a year so I started buying these ryobis for about $30. They work pretty good for the price. I tried the gator paper from Lowes but its not nearly as nice as the diablo.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on November 27, 2018, 09:17:12 PM
Diablo is all I use too. That stuff is awesome. I tried 12 different  brands when I was a buyer for a large hardware store.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: MNBob on November 30, 2018, 08:16:15 AM
I have the Ryobi and Diablo as well.  Glad you found the paint color, I have been "out" for cataract surgery.  I thought the paint match was pretty good too.  Having some cans for touch up gives you some flexibility.

I don't have the SEM codes for the interior - I wish I did.  Fbodywarehouse has this:

https://fbodywarehouse.com/store/1979-trans-am-10th-anniversary-interior-dye-set-gray-w-clear-coat-diy-how-to-video-included.html?category_id=218 (https://fbodywarehouse.com/store/1979-trans-am-10th-anniversary-interior-dye-set-gray-w-clear-coat-diy-how-to-video-included.html?category_id=218)

I had to paint the metal dash corner below the windshield where there was some surface rust.  I bought about 10 cans of paint locally and finally settled on one; but it was not a perfect match either.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: ryeguy2006a on November 30, 2018, 01:38:31 PM
Nice work Kerry you move quickly! That paint blend on the deck lid looks spot on! Can you elaborate on the technique? I found a few true match spray cans at my local parts store for a few spots that were dry on the back sides of some parts I sprayed and would like to do something similar.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on November 30, 2018, 06:14:59 PM
I wish it were moving fast, about as fast as a backwards turtle uphill right now. I try to get to it on the weekends, but with only half the shop insulated its been getting pretty cold. I got the paint from 'automotive touch up' ,com.  They have a pull down menu with just about everything car made. I got the code numbers from MN Bob. They sell spray bombs, quarts and gallons.  I am very happy with the match. I am trying to not be so picky this time around. The inside of the tr. lid looked pretty decent so I decided to just go with touch up. Gonna try to do the same with the door edges, as they are pretty decent as well.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: kentucky yeti on December 01, 2018, 12:43:31 AM
I'm impressed by your progress.  Wanna do mine next lol?
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: jpe on December 01, 2018, 01:49:27 AM
Looks good, a nice project.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on December 03, 2018, 04:37:24 PM
Got the trunk channel cleaned, painted and clear coated.
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This is the hinge that was rotted out that was repaired.
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Took the mirror apart and cleaned the inside and painted the outside.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on January 21, 2019, 01:48:06 PM
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Not much to show, but I did get one top sanded and repainted. I was lucky and found a set of correct tops for a decent price. I got 'factory correct' paint from automotive paint specialties in LA., thanks to MN Bob's recommendation. I will have to shoot another coat of clear on when I do the car but overall it turned out pretty nice. No heat in the shop so nothing going on out there. I had the car ready to epoxy at Christmas but got bronchitis which had me down and out for a few weeks. Now its too cold to paint!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on January 21, 2019, 03:03:41 PM
Right on...where did you find the glass?
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on January 21, 2019, 04:16:00 PM
Got it from a guy upstate NY, he shipped me both pieces for $300. I thought that was a pretty good deal. Also, it was the one missing link to my car. I have the original drivetrain but the glass roof was parted many years ago by the previous owner. I was happy and thought I was lucky to find a decent set. The glass is excellent, just needs new paint. I had to build some doors for my day job in my old shop which has heat, that's the reason I only got one top done. I may get to the other this weekend. I am planning on starting the refinishing process of the interior trims, seats, dash, steering column etc. I can do that kinda of small stuff in the available space. That way when I need it everything should be done and ready to drop in. I am trying to convince myself that this is not going to be a 5 yr resto! I pulled the console and was going to start with that first, but against my better judgment I think I am going to look for a replacement. The one I have is broken in about 10 different places. I could probably fix it but not sure I want to put that much time into it.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: kentucky yeti on January 21, 2019, 07:53:38 PM
Looking good!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on January 21, 2019, 10:04:49 PM
That's a pretty decent deal on the glass I would say!!
You'll probably be happier with replacing the console then trying to fix it...sometimes it's just a better path to take!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: T/A Addict on January 22, 2019, 04:19:23 AM
Great progress Kerry, Keep it up!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 737driver on January 22, 2019, 09:58:01 AM
Great Looking Work!
Jim
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: hakitup on January 22, 2019, 03:58:30 PM
Looks good, progress is always good no matter how small...lol

Tom H
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: TATurbo on January 22, 2019, 10:56:59 PM
I hear the glass tops can be hard to find.  $300 sounds like a good deal!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on February 19, 2019, 04:40:05 PM
Figure I better post before I get pushed back to page 3. Its been a long cold winter. No heat in the new shop so work on the car has stalled. I started to redo the t tops. First one I just sanded the outside cleaned the glass and put on a coat of paint. Looks pretty darn good. BUT, I did nothing to what makes it work. So the second one I approached differently. I took the inside apart first. It was a MESS! Full of dirt, bug remnants, rusted so bad the bars wouldn't slide. Soaked the mechanism in some rust blaster, of which at the time of the pics it only soaked for about a day. I have since put them back in the bucket and will take out tomorrow. The plastic cover was broke at both ends, so I made a repair out of fiberglass and bondo. Drilled out the holes with a Dremel, cleaned everything good and hit it with a couple coats of SEM dye. In the pics the paint is still wet and I need to do the clear coat yet, but its coming along nicely. Once this ones done i'll pull the other back out and do it all over again.
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on February 19, 2019, 04:44:45 PM
Some More
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on February 19, 2019, 07:12:40 PM
That's cool. I don't think i've seen one of these stripped like that before!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on February 19, 2019, 07:26:00 PM
Great work there. Did you do anything to recreate the texture? The end result looks really good from where I sit.

Not sure if you checked to see how they fit but j noticed when I was fitting the new roof on my Formula that every one of the tops I tried fit differently.  I have 4 or more sets of T tops. Seems like maybe the trim was applied to the glass and adjusted to fit each car? I couldn't figure out how each set fit differently.  I ended up having to use the set that came with the roof to get a good gap all the way around.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on February 20, 2019, 09:41:29 AM
I have not fit them to the car yet. Funny you mention that, I was wondering if there would be any variation, and had actually thought about putting them on for the heck of it. I will do that asap. They come apart pretty easy with a few screws and im glad I did because of all of the junk inside. Also, this one was rusted so bad the locking bar would not move. There is a black anodized aluminum bar that is the base for everything to attach to. This piece is attached to the glass with adhesive. I did not take that off. There is an aluminum guide block at each end that is also attached to the glass with adhesive. One side was loose so I removed it. The other is solid, I let it stay in place.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: TonysTA on February 20, 2019, 08:18:53 PM
t-top repair looks good, I didn't realize they come apart like that, I haven't gotten that far along on mine yet, but soon.  What are your plans on the chrome metal pieces that are part of the t-top assembly ? re-chrome or are they in good shape? Not sure what the proper name is, here is a link to what I am referring to: 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/79-81-81-Camaro-Z28-Firebird-Trans-Am-Fisher-Type-T-Top-Pin-on-Retainer-Blocks-/292908383310 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/79-81-81-Camaro-Z28-Firebird-Trans-Am-Fisher-Type-T-Top-Pin-on-Retainer-Blocks-/292908383310)
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on February 21, 2019, 07:35:04 AM
Tony, they look like the piece that attaches to the car? Not quite sure what mine look like. I havent looked at the car too closely for awhile now, (and its only a couple hundred feet away in the shop!). After forms comment I plan on taking the glass to the car and checking for fit, I will look then. I guess if they are bad I will most likely get them rechromed. There is a guy local to me that is supposed to do pretty good work.

As far as the texture on the work I did, I had some SEM texture spray but after sitting on the shelf for a couple of years it has gone bad. So I painted as is. If you look closely you can see the smoothness but I was in a hurry to get it painted so I let it go. It looks good and where its going to be I doubt most people will notice. BUT, being the way I am, i'm sure I will re-do it before all is said and done.

As typical, shop has been barren for awhile, why I decided to start the int. bits. I had to start a cabinet build for a job yesterday so I had to throw all of the car parts in a pile out of the way for a few days now. Kinda silly to be cramped in my old 16 x 24 space since I have a new 24 x 40 shop being way underutilized at the moment!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on February 21, 2019, 09:32:20 AM
You really need to source a furnace or heat source. I got my furnace free as someone was replacing theirs for an upgrade.  I put it up stairs and ran flexible duct to a bunch of ceiling vents. I put one large cold air return in. Not sure if that's right or not, but for the shop it works great!

When I paint, I install a few good filters before the furnace intake. I change them out immediately as the clog up but keeps paint out off the furnace. I also shut it down while spraying.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on February 22, 2019, 08:44:03 AM
Winters almost over, my plan for spring/summer is to get the shop finished on the inside. I have 2 walls out of 4 complete, insulated and drywall. I had some nice commercial grade insulation leftover from a couple of projects we did that completed about half of the ceiling. Now I need to get the rest of the insulation, then put up int. walls and a ceiling. My electrician was supposed to start in a few weeks running power to the building but he just found out he has prostrate cancer and is going to be off work after the middle of march for awhile. I would like to use a long tube radiant gas heater lengthwise with the building. Theyre not that expensive and I think its the best for the situation. I do have a slightly used oil furnace sitting in my upstairs doing nothing (I upgraded to propane a couple of years ago and this one was unhooked and left sitting) that I have contemplated using that instead.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 737driver on February 22, 2019, 09:06:20 AM
I am looking forward to winter being over. This last week it has been unusually cold in Vegas, we even got a few dustings of snow. I have no reason to complain because it really not that big of deal compared to other parts of the country. Having a shop that is insulated and heated is a great thing to have during the winter months.

Jim
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on February 22, 2019, 04:11:32 PM
I just saw on the news this morning about snow fall in vegas!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: TATurbo on February 22, 2019, 11:20:50 PM
I'm surprised to see the t-top interior parts rusted up like that.  Doesn't seem like something that happens often, unless maybe its been sitting off the car?  Or...I guess if rodents get in there they can muck things up pretty good.  Is that the one you purchased?  Anyway, I'm glad to see its cleaning up OK.
Good luck with the new shop.  I'd like to see it in person some time.  I'm sorta handy with a hammer and drill.  If you want to make a push to get it buttoned up, I'd be happy to donate a couple hours.   The one and only advantage to my 1 car garage is that I can heat it with a couple 500 Watt work lights and a little Craftsman space heater.  You jealous? LOL.

Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on February 23, 2019, 09:05:54 AM
Tom, when I see the space you have worked out of I am truly impressed beyond belief. My new shop was built primarily for my day business (contracting and woodworking) with a bay added on for the car. When I was a kid there was a local builder who did complete restorations, full paint, built motors, interior work, the whole nine yards. His finished cars were amazing. His shop was a one car garage under his bi level house. He later added a bay to make it 2 wide but didn't take out the wall so essentially it was 2 single car garages. One side even had a dirt floor that became so compact and oil covered it was about as hard as concrete.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 08, 2019, 04:50:46 PM
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Console was pretty bad, almost completely cracked in half. After reading that the aftermarkets weren't all that great I decided to give this a shot. Reinforced everything with fiberglass on the inside and used padded dash filler to repair the face. After a couple of coats sanding in between, I hit the entire thing with sem texture coating, then a few coats of sem warm grey (1583), then sem low lustre clear coat.
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 08, 2019, 04:52:05 PM
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 08, 2019, 04:55:13 PM
As part of my A.D.D. I have yet to finish the t top repairs. I was all but finished and had to put it aside to do some other work, then I started this. I ordered new rubber for them and hope to get back on that task this weekend. Then maybe start the rest of the plastic int. parts.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 11, 2019, 09:00:59 AM
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Got one top finished complete with new rubber from Steele. It does need a new handle though. I will check my stash before I order one. This one will go into 'cold storage' with the rest of my newly painted interior parts until the time they are needed. Now I need to go back and redo the first one. It needs the inside parts restored and new rubber.
Weather is starting to warm around here and it looks like I will be able to get back to the car itself soon and get some primer sprayed then start what minimal body work is needed. I really would like to have it painted a real colour by about june. We'll see!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: kentucky yeti on March 12, 2019, 05:41:08 AM
You do awesome work!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 4wheeling79 on March 12, 2019, 11:57:54 PM
Wow you killed it on that console nice work!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 13, 2019, 07:05:17 AM
Thanks. Now I would like to find a way to replicate the chrome banding on the trim parts. I use a silver leafing pen that does a really nice job, it just doesn't have the shine of the original chrome though.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 15, 2019, 04:07:50 PM
Weather was summer like today, so I got primer shot on the bare shell! Also did the trunk lid, and dr. door. I have been waiting for quite awhile to get to this and with the weather starting to warm and moisture coming back I was afraid the bare car would start to flash rust. Pics to come.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on March 15, 2019, 05:47:23 PM
Sweet! Can't wait for pictures!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Jack on March 16, 2019, 06:24:52 AM
Great work Kerry, I love how that console came out.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on March 16, 2019, 07:15:35 AM
I must say that it is amazing you were able to salvage the center console, and it turned out great. I remember a member Hitmans page doing amazing work like this on everything. Keepat was his name on there. he restored, I believe a 73? Anyways, it was always cool to watch everything he did because, like you, he pretty much fixed everything himself and like you, did amazing work.

Keep it up because it is very motivating and educational, and I know others like me appreciate!!

Amazing
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: T/A81blue on March 16, 2019, 12:11:07 PM
awesome job on that console...when i tried to do mine I got frustrated and ended up buying another one  :mad:
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 16, 2019, 02:16:48 PM
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Primer turned out pretty nice. I sanded with a 16" block and then a 6" block. Body is REALLY straight. Its nice to have such decent metal to work with for a change. Door was typically banged up pretty good, and I started doing some mud work. Got a couple of coats, letting the third sit until tomorrow. Only work on the dr side was the roof seam, pass side quarter had been replaced at some point so I have a bit more work to do along that seem. I had thought about replacing it but they actually did a pretty good job so it stays! Judging by the lack of rust on this car I surmise it was hit in the right side quarter.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on March 16, 2019, 02:32:39 PM
Cool stuff
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: TATurbo on March 16, 2019, 08:15:05 PM
Must feel good to get some primer laid down.  Looks great. 
I also can't believe you saved that console.   I don't think I would've even tried. It looks perfect from here!.  Nice job.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on March 16, 2019, 09:00:41 PM
Man you move quick! Car looks great. You've done in a short time what took me 4+ years!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 17, 2019, 08:34:41 AM
Thanks All!  I actually pulled the console out last winter and got ready to repair, saw how bad it was and decided to replace. I heard the new ones weren't right so I went back and decided to give it a try. Im actually pretty pleased with how it turned out.
Things are moving SLOW, but I don't really have that much time into it so far. Now that things are warming up I hope to put the hammer down! I want to top the rage filler off with some high build primer, maybe today or tomorrow after work. Once I get the body to where I like it, im gonna pull the front fenders and work on them and the pass side door at the same time.
   The first thing I did to the 77 was strip every part off the car, and I had stuff everywhere. Im approaching this one a bit different. I am leaving stuff as is until I need to work on it.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on March 17, 2019, 10:31:41 AM
Thanks All!  I actually pulled the console out last winter and got ready to repair, saw how bad it was and decided to replace. I heard the new ones weren't right so I went back and decided to give it a try. Im actually pretty pleased with how it turned out.
Things are moving SLOW, but I don't really have that much time into it so far. Now that things are warming up I hope to put the hammer down! I want to top the rage filler off with some high build primer, maybe today or tomorrow after work. Once I get the body to where I like it, im gonna pull the front fenders and work on them and the pass side door at the same time.
   The first thing I did to the 77 was strip every part off the car, and I had stuff everywhere. Im approaching this one a bit different. I am leaving stuff as is until I need to work on it.

I hind sight, I wish I had done that years ago!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 17, 2019, 02:32:09 PM
Got everything ready for primer. I thought I had some but the can was empty. I will pick some up tomorrow, the plan is to still shoot it tomorrow evening.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Jack on March 17, 2019, 06:39:30 PM
Are you painting this one or sending it out?
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 18, 2019, 06:12:17 AM
Great work on that console Kerry! Rest of the car is looking great too.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 18, 2019, 07:27:24 AM
Gonna try and do it myself Jack. Thanks Ryan.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 737driver on March 18, 2019, 08:40:20 AM
Great work on the body work! That is something I would like to try and do sometime. Looks like it is coming together quite well for you! Awesome progress!
Jim
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 18, 2019, 09:47:59 AM
Gonna try and do it myself Jack. Thanks Ryan.

You can do it!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 18, 2019, 02:34:51 PM
Picked up primer today, and some misc material to paint with. Supposed to be warmer tomorrow, gonna try and prime then. Talked to the store about mixing paint for me, they aren't 100% sure they can get it exact to what I want. I may end up with the premixed stuff that I used for the touch up.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on March 18, 2019, 02:54:39 PM
Quote
You can do it!!

I can't help but hear Rob Schneider yelling that from Water Boy.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: DD78TA on March 19, 2019, 06:06:34 AM
Great work and great pictures. Love seeing them. I too was surprised how much room a car takes up when it's all apart. Looks like you have an excellent shop area.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on March 19, 2019, 07:58:36 PM
Quote
You can do it!!

I can't help but hear Rob Schneider yelling that from Water Boy.

haha...This is what plays in my head every time I read those words

I always did like the satin, flat look when a car gets at that point....im gunna say it...I also like the rat look...hopefully I don't get lynched.

The car is turning out great dude, I love it
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 20, 2019, 07:44:02 AM
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I like the flat black look too.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Jack on March 21, 2019, 06:27:29 PM
I would think hard about the flat black Kerry, I think it looks great on your bike but not on a car.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 22, 2019, 06:52:23 AM
DEF not on the car!!  My son dropped my bike a number of years ago and it was tore up pretty good. I rebuilt things myself. This was my first experience with automotive paint. I thought it would be easier to go flat black than a gloss and have to worry about buffing and all that stuff. I didn't know it was the same amount of work (less the buffing). End product turned out perfect and it grew on me. Paint was called something like hot rod black with a matte clear coat. Its supposed to be harder to clean but I just wash it off with soap and water every spring and it looks fine.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 737driver on March 22, 2019, 10:26:08 PM
I love the look! Great looking bike! I think it was a great choice going with the matte clear coat and black.

Jim
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 23, 2019, 04:24:42 PM
Thanks Jim, I have ridden it all over the eastern half of the US. 
Car is now primered. Weather finally warmed up today.  Pics to come.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: kentucky yeti on March 24, 2019, 06:42:10 PM
Getting closer!  Can't wait to see it in paint.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on March 24, 2019, 07:26:12 PM
Again, you move fast. Can't wait to see the progress!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: TATurbo on March 24, 2019, 09:32:06 PM
Ahah! The origin of 'RoadKing' is revealed.  Nice bike!
I love riding.
 Had a moped when I was a teenager...A little different.  But it looked like a real motorcycle...LOL!
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Aside from moped, my brother had a 80 something Suzuki GS850 which he let me put a few miles on.  I never got a bike license or owned my own real motor cycle though.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 25, 2019, 09:18:15 AM
Tom, when I signed up to the website years ago I had no idea I needed a 'call name'. I figured I would use something easy to remember, being a 'roadking' and my car was a 77. Secret is out! LOL
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 25, 2019, 09:21:02 AM
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This was the worst part so far. It looks worse in pics than it actually is. I had a little bit of work making the curve just right across the seam. I put layout lines 6" apart coming from the tail panel. Did the same on the driver side with the factory quarter. I then used a contour gauge at each spot, setting the correct curve with the dr. side and transferring it to the pass side.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 25, 2019, 09:23:26 AM
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2k Primer in place.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 25, 2019, 09:26:41 AM
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After priming with the 2k I use a long block sander to find the hollows and knock off the high spots. The hollows show up in darker spots.
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You can see some of them here. Overall the body was pretty straight, but the door had a number of issues. From my limited experience the doors seem to take on the brunt of all the abuse. I have prob twice the amount of work on this door alone than the rest of the car.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 25, 2019, 09:31:32 AM
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I then use a glazing putty to  fill the minor imperfections (hollows) found in the previous step. These spots aren't really all that bad but will def show up in the final paint. I did get a couple more coats of primer back over, and every thing is a nice uniform coat of grey again.
Most of you may have a better, or 'correct' way to do this, I figure I will post for those who may be looking for an amateurs advice.
Im not sure if this is the right way to do it, but this is the technique I used on my black car and it came out ok. I have seen where people use guide coats but I just stick with the long sanding blocks and it seems to work out ok.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 25, 2019, 09:33:02 AM
Next step: I got a hinge rebuild kit off of ebay and will repair the dr side hinges, then re-install that door. Turn the car around and start to work on the front end, fenders, and take the pass door off and work on that. Hoping to get to the hinges this evening.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 4wheeling79 on March 26, 2019, 10:31:52 PM
Great work Kerry you are moving right along I pretty much use the same technique that you use but I will use a guide coat. Just don’t use Rust-Oleum that stuff sands like concrete trust me I know as I did this past weekend on a hood. Like to had killed my hands and shoulders!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: TonysTA on March 27, 2019, 04:46:06 AM
Door looks good! I use a guide coat as well, cheapest paint I can find at Lowes. I also use SPI 2K Epoxy which has a high sheen and makes finding low spots easier. Doors can be a huge PITA if the style line has a crease or dent in it, I spent many an hour on my doors while on stands only to spend even more time touching up the gaps when fitting.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 27, 2019, 06:11:52 AM
Good work Kerry! It's cool you can spray your own car. I'm going to push for a detached garage in the next few years. I'm hoping that I can start doing some side jobs to bring in a little extra cash. Maybe some LS swaps, or quick paint jobs.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on March 27, 2019, 07:27:25 AM
Looks like professional work to me! Way to go.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 737driver on March 27, 2019, 11:19:57 PM
Looking really good! I am tempted to start learning to do paint and body work, and your thread is encouraging me in that direction! Looks like really great work!
Jim
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 28, 2019, 07:12:17 AM
Thanks Jim, I really enjoy doing body work and painting. Although im not even near the same league as your paint guy. This kind of stuff is my therapy. Im not real mechanical (yet) so I still have to rely on someone for that part. If I couldn't do most of it myself I couldn't afford this hobby! LOL.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 79GoldnTan on March 28, 2019, 05:52:25 PM
Wow, that looks great, your really making some good progress!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Jack on March 28, 2019, 10:10:31 PM
Thanks Jim, I really enjoy doing body work and painting. Although im not even near the same league as your paint guy. This kind of stuff is my therapy. Im not real mechanical (yet) so I still have to rely on someone for that part. If I couldn't do most of it myself I couldn't afford this hobby! LOL.

The way I see it is that there are two types of people, some that pay others to restore and others learn and do it themselves. Although it's unreasonable to assume everyone can do everything but the types that at least try to learn and do it themselves are the true hobbyist.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 29, 2019, 01:43:21 PM
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I wanted to re do the hinges before I re-install the door. Bushings were shot. I got a rebuild kit off ebay for $14, enough for all 4 hinges. They came apart easy, spring came out easy, media blasted, primed and painted. THEN, I had a heck of a time getting the spring installed. I looked online and found a spring compressor so I decided to make one out of stuff I had laying around. MAJOR FAIL! SO, today I stopped at AZ and found one for $16, took all of about 1 minute to install it with the right tool. Next step is getting the door jamb cleaned and painted, then re-install the door.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on March 29, 2019, 02:11:37 PM
Looks good,

I find it fascinating how a tool you make works great for a lot of jobs but then there are few of those spots where you need to buy something.

at least you tried
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 07, 2019, 06:18:18 AM
Stripped the t top frames down and prepped. The dr side had some surface rust not too bad, the pass side looks like it just the factory, paint still shines. Started to take the front end apart. Not as much fun as I remember. I got my paint yesterday, gonna pick up some clear on Monday and then I will start  putting some colour on.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: MNBob on April 07, 2019, 02:07:38 PM
Wow, I have been doing a lot of work around the condo complex and have gotten way behind on the builds!

First, great job on the t-top interior trim panels.  Mine are cracked at the corners as well.  I would never thought of using fiberglass to repair them, although I have done fiberglass repairs before.  At $109 apiece (GM at Ames), it is definitely worth it!

The console also looks fantastic.  Who would have thought you could repair that?  Was that SEM number for the warm gray supposed to be 15183 not 1583?  That is a perfect match, I am going to purchase it.

Your paint work is turning out really good!  I found using the light gray primer works well with the silver paint.  Did you end up getting your paint for spraying at Automotive Touchup or somewhere else?

It was really surprising when I pulled off my door hinges and found no paint underneath.  No wonder they were rusting there.

Congratulations on all your recent progress, you have accomplished much!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 08, 2019, 07:55:33 AM
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There was a comment on another thread about neatness in the shop. This is my current work table!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 08, 2019, 07:59:26 AM
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pulled everything out of the way, sanded down and primered the top rail areas.
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This is the pass side, factory paint still shiny. Dr. side had a bit of surface rust but nothing major.
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After a bit of wire wheel work I uncovered original paint lines. This will def help, along with some measurements I got (thanks Bob)
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 08, 2019, 08:01:25 AM
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Another curiosity. I have little reason to think the door has been removed previously. The hinges were painted a light blue, very similar to early motor colour, after cleaning better the screws for the doo latch were painted the same colour. I havent dug into the pass side yet to see what they look like.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 08, 2019, 08:11:31 AM
Bob, the sem number is 15183 for the warm grey. That's the lighter colour. I checked it with an original piece I cleaned and it is spot on for match. I got all the sem at a local auto part store. They had to order in the darker grey for the dash but it only took a day. I did get spray bombs from Auto touch up and their colours were exact as well. Thanks for the recommendation. Against my better judgement I bought the same in a quart and will use that with my air gun to spray the top. I say that because im not sure about using a one part paint, but figured i would give it a shot. I want to make sure the finished appearance is as close to original as possible. Gonna try to get some clear today so i can paint tonight.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 11, 2019, 07:30:29 AM
Paint was put on temp hold until I got more stuff ready. I removed the windshield, cleaned up the channel which like the top had zero rust. Got the dr. side fender off, cowel dropoff and bottom are solid. Bottom of fender has the typical rust, but I think I can repair it easily enough. Also, gonna try to restore the cracked dash in place, I really dont feel like pulling it out! I was hoping to save the paint on the metal part of the dash but it has some very slight surface rust in a couple of places and some scratches so I will sand it down and repaint it as well.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Casey on April 11, 2019, 02:30:00 PM
So much progress, so little time.  Definitely worth trying to restore the dash in place, especially with the windshield out of the way now.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 12, 2019, 07:07:54 AM
I got the fender sanded down last night, it is darn near perfect, no rust and not a dent one, at least no rust on the top!! The bottom is bad behind the wheel, typical for these. There mustve been about 5 lbs. of crud that came out from inside there when I took it off. Theses should have had a cut out on the bottom to let crap out!  Also, the rocker on the dr. side is crushed a bit. Again it looks the typical 'lets put the jack under here' kind of thing. Still not sure how to best repair that part.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on April 12, 2019, 07:58:07 AM
I hear you on the lower quarter full if junk. It's open to the trunk too so whatever dirt and who knows what falls in there it stays. I had a couple wrenches and a 5 gallon bucket of sand fall out of my Formula.
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Casey on April 12, 2019, 02:41:10 PM
That's just ballast for launching! :lol:
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 12, 2019, 02:44:18 PM
Those look pretty bad. In my case I was referring to the front fender. The quarters are really nice. I did get the fender epoxied this afternoon (just walked in from the shop actually). Hope to get the patch work done over the weekend.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on April 12, 2019, 05:06:33 PM
I ended up replacing the most of one quarter and all of the other quarter on that car.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 15, 2019, 07:01:01 AM
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More parts coming off.
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Fender stripped to bare, then shot with epoxy I had a couple of small dings 'show up' that I hit with glazing.(https://live.staticflickr.com/7905/32664992957_09e794b930_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RLuCnK)2019-04-14_11-54-03 (https://flic.kr/p/RLuCnK) by Kerry Grubb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156399515@N07/), on Flickr
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This is the most amount of rust I have found to date. Again, fairly typical for a firebird. I made a cardboard template, then cut out a piece of metal, overlayed it on the bad spot, marked and cut it out. Then I patched a new piece back in.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 15, 2019, 07:03:01 AM
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Template,
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Patch held in place with welding clamps ready to be attached. I then did the same thing to replace the inner structure that was rotted as well. I thought I got pics but guess not.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 15, 2019, 09:08:05 AM
Looking good Kerry!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 737driver on April 15, 2019, 11:22:42 AM
That looks like a great repair job! Excellent work for sure.
Jim
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 15, 2019, 02:32:22 PM
Thanks, I bought the lower fender patch panels when I did my 77 but they barely fit and still had to be tweaked a good bit. I found it just as easy to buy some sheet metal and make my own this time around. But WOW! that stupid piece of 2' x 2' metal cost almost $30 at lowes!! Im sure I could have found it cheaper somewhere but that's where I was.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on April 15, 2019, 04:02:52 PM
I keep everything so I have fenders and hoods and floor patch pieces saved just for projects like this. But, then again,  I'm a parts hoarder... BTW, looks very professional, great job.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 16, 2019, 06:25:57 AM
I had lots of scrap metal stuff laying around that I either saved from jobs or salvaged, but that was all lost in my fire. I dont discriminate with parts, I hoard everything, LOL! Luckily my wife throws stuff away if she hasn't touched it in a week. It is a good balance between that and me being a packrat.  Otherwise you might see me in a tv show.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on April 16, 2019, 08:35:20 AM
Wow, sounds just like my life. My wife gets rid of everything and I keep everything.  If I want it, I have to put it in my shop. She doesn't go in there. It's  my 1700 sf sanctuary.  A long time ago I realized everything I got rid of I eventually ended up rebuying for much more. So I just keep it all, even if I can't find it...
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Casey on April 16, 2019, 07:07:01 PM
Should make a run to your local pick n pull for some hoods to make for some cheaper sheet metal.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 17, 2019, 07:19:47 AM
That's a good idea box, I used to do mostly commercial and industrial construction. There was never a shortage of scrap metal to grab a hold of. Now that im doing home improvement/residential stuff that source has dried up. I had planned on getting some paint on by know, but priorities had me going to a car show on Saturday and sunday was raining too hard to paint. Karate class tonight will put me off another day. Maybe by the end of the weekend.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 20, 2019, 03:00:28 PM
Between yesterday afternoon and this afternoon I got some painting done. Got the fender in 2k primer on top of the epoxy, got the inside of the door painted, got the driver side jamb and cowell area painted, and I got the dark grey painted on the top of the car as well as the rear bumper. Also I got a dr. side mirror in the mail yesterday and got it painted as well.
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 20, 2019, 03:04:14 PM
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 20, 2019, 03:10:18 PM
I need to re-group and develop my next plan of action. Top priority is to start the repairs to the dash, and take off the dr. inner fender and get it painted. My thinking for the moment is to get the dr door installed, then get the car turned around to take off the pass side sheet metal (door and fender) as well as the front end. It would be nice to have the entire car painted before the end of next month, but that is wishful thinking at this point!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on April 20, 2019, 04:40:49 PM
Oh wow! That looks great. You move so quick. Makes me look like I'm going backwards.  Keep it up!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Jack on April 20, 2019, 06:45:29 PM
You sure you never done this before?
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 21, 2019, 08:17:07 AM
Im gonna hit that point where im going to have to start putting in some serious cash, that's when the brakes will come on, LOL.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 23, 2019, 07:11:37 AM
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Started the patchwork on the dash. Overall it wasn't too bad ( I have seen worse), this was after the first coat of filler. I sanded that down when it was dry and put a second coat on. Ran out of filler material, hoping to find some at Carlisle this week, if not I will place an order for some more. In the mean time I guess I will get the inner fender off, and maybe start to work on the cowell top. I was hoping to save the paint on the metal dash front, but it wasn't good enough and I had to make a small patch in the corner. Now the challenge of finding a matching paint colour.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on April 23, 2019, 10:45:08 PM
Cool Stuff...looking great
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 737driver on April 23, 2019, 11:07:06 PM
Really making some fantastic progress! Its almost like you have cloned yourself about four time with the amount of work you have done!
Jim
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 24, 2019, 06:42:48 AM
My A.D.D. has me bouncing all over the place. One of my faults. I get too many things started at one time. BUT, I like to think of it as getting one part repaired whilst another is in the waiting stage. Dash is an example. I can work on something else while the putty is drying over night. My short term goal is to get the dr side finished up and ready for paint, then I can turn the car around and work on the pass side. My wife calls me 'The King of Half A$$', because I start another project before I finish the one im working on.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on April 24, 2019, 07:51:11 AM
I hear you. You've see the pictures of my shop and all of the projects I have going.  I need to retire so I can finish them all!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 737driver on April 24, 2019, 11:05:16 AM
My A.D.D. has me bouncing all over the place. One of my faults. I get too many things started at one time. BUT, I like to think of it as getting one part repaired whilst another is in the waiting stage. Dash is an example. I can work on something else while the putty is drying over night. My short term goal is to get the dr side finished up and ready for paint, then I can turn the car around and work on the pass side. My wife calls me 'The King of Half A$$', because I start another project before I finish the one im working on.
The disease is real... Many of us suffer from the same affliction everyday.....
(cue the sad puppy dog song)


Jim
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: hakitup on April 24, 2019, 11:59:31 AM
Coming along, I work very hard to not getting to many irons in the fire.

Tom H
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: MNBob on April 29, 2019, 06:16:12 PM
Amazing progress in such a short time.  The painting on the roof, bumper and doors looks super!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 30, 2019, 07:01:11 AM
I ran out of dash filler, looked for some at Carlisle with no luck so I need to order a batch. In the mean time I have been working on the cowel area, got the wiper motor out and things cleaned and almost ready to paint.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on May 02, 2019, 08:58:19 AM
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Dash after about 2 coats of filler. This has been sanded with 80gr. I had to order more material, supposed to be here tomorrow. Maybe 1 or 2 more light coats then this will be finished.
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Prep work on the cowell area. Cleaned out the plenum, sanded everything to get some paint applied.
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Before pics of stuff to be cleaned up and restored.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on May 02, 2019, 06:13:29 PM
Got a little more done this evening. Pass side fender and inner fender off, as well as taking the front end off. Got the pass fender about half sanded down. Its very nice, one small dent and zero rust.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on May 06, 2019, 07:34:43 AM
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First one of these I have seen with no rust!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on May 06, 2019, 07:35:33 AM
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Epoxied, hoping to do some block sanding tonight.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on May 06, 2019, 07:36:31 AM
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And here is the signature of the now famous 'R. Spriler' lol.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on May 06, 2019, 07:59:04 AM
Fender looks great! Love those rust free parts. I was lucky I bought a set 20 years ago that were from Florida or California and had them shipped here. They were cheap back then so I just stored them. I just stocked up on sand paper and ordered a replacement longer Dura-Block sanding block. Fun times...

Thanks for the good updates, they are motivational.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on May 06, 2019, 09:41:45 AM
I was hoping to have pics of my finished dash, but I sanded through the filler in a couple of spots on the final go round. No big deal, im glad I found the soft spot then as opposed to after it was done. I just added some more, now I need to sand it back off and hopefully be done with that part. I look at a car restoration as a finite number of parts that need to be addressed. Each one I finish is one step closer to being done!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: TonysTA on May 07, 2019, 05:39:40 AM
Looking good, dash fit is something I am struggling with, I noticed with yours, where it lines up against the cowl, it's not a consistent gap. Is that how they came from the factory? Mine is noticeable in a few spots and its bugging me.  I am on the fence with either pulling mine back out and adding more "welded' plastic to close the gap or saying to heck with it and ordering an after market from OER (they are 1/2 price of just dashes). 

What would you do? 

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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on May 07, 2019, 06:01:55 AM
That is pretty much the quality of GM fitment.  Once the windshield is in you will barely notice it. On a side not, they never have the OER dash. I've been on a waiting list for over 5 years now... Also, the radio area is for the early years not 79 up. Not sure what year car you have.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on May 07, 2019, 07:00:08 AM
What Form said. I took the dash out of my 77 when I redid it and it looks about the same as far as fitment goes. At that joint the dash is a good bit thicker than the metal that it clips to, so they dont really align perfectly smooth. WWID, it depends on how 'bad' it really is. I am a perfectionist, but after a while I even throw in the towel and to quote Jack Nicholson, 'that's as good as it gets'. On this car I did not want to go through the trouble of removing the dash, which IMO is a pain in the ….
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on May 07, 2019, 07:04:56 AM
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Dash is done. Finished the last coat of padded dash filler, sanded smooth starting with 80gr through and finishing with 220gr. Then I used SEM texture coating, I put on a couple of coats holding the can fairly high to give it a bit more texture. After that was dry I used SEM grey, then topped with SEM low lustre clear coat. All in all it came out pretty nice. I am happy enough with the results, time to move on to the next project with this car.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 07, 2019, 11:20:09 AM
Excellent job on the dash pad!! So is that padded dash filler a little spongy?
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 76455sd on May 07, 2019, 11:25:23 AM
Dash looks great!  very nice
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Post by: Casey on May 07, 2019, 01:22:33 PM
Dash looks great!  very nice
x2  Looks good as new!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on May 07, 2019, 03:00:00 PM
It is not spongy, but it does have ever so slight bit of elasticity.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 4wheeling79 on May 07, 2019, 08:07:12 PM
Nice progress! Every day you work on it your a little closer to the prize!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Jack on May 11, 2019, 06:11:43 PM
I don't check for a week or so and you are almost done :lol: :grin: great progress Kerry, keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: TATurbo on May 11, 2019, 08:32:22 PM
Dash looks great.  As does the paint! You seem to be cruising right along. 
I wonder if it's common to have stuff written in the spoilers?  Mine had something in there too...I don't recall what it was.
Car looks awesome, keep at it!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 737driver on May 12, 2019, 11:02:34 PM
Kerry you really do some great work! It is really inspiring me to get started on my next project!
Jim
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on May 13, 2019, 07:29:58 AM
Im trying to figure out now what colour to paint the metal dash. I have somewhat matched it to my Sherwin Williams samples and will try to match that to what is readily available. I would like to use something off the shelf spray bomb but will get something mixed if need be. Hopefully will be getting some more work done this week.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on May 13, 2019, 08:09:32 AM
Was it satin black before or some sort of gray?
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Post by: roadking77 on May 13, 2019, 02:22:29 PM
Gray.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: chief poncho on May 13, 2019, 05:50:41 PM
Coming along very nice!  Great job on the dash.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Moon75 on May 16, 2019, 12:31:10 PM
What products did you use for your dash repair? im almost at that point with mine.  Thanks
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on May 16, 2019, 06:37:56 PM
Wow, the dash turned out really good...nice work!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on May 17, 2019, 07:19:17 AM
Thanks Charlie, I assume your back home, hope you had a great time and congrats to you and your new bride.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on May 17, 2019, 07:21:28 AM
Moon, I used a product called 'padded dash filler'. You can get it online. I will have to check the supplier, they used to be urethane supply company, but that has changed to something new. Its pretty easy to do, it works like bondo/body filler. If you look in the int. section you will see my thread on my console repair. I have pics of the product there.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Moon75 on May 17, 2019, 02:55:39 PM
Thank you roadking.. and your doing one helluva job!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: MNBob on May 19, 2019, 01:01:05 PM
Quote
I'm trying to figure out now what colour to paint the metal dash. I have somewhat matched it to my Sherwin Williams samples and will try to match that to what is readily available.

Isn't the metal part of the dash in front of the pad the same color as the pad?  It looks like that on mine.  You could just use the warm grey that you gave me the SEM number.

By the way, do have the SEM number of the darker color as well?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on May 19, 2019, 02:07:50 PM
Hi Bob, The metal dash colour is NOT the same as the sem paint. I checked that first. I matched it pretty close to a couple of Sherwin Williams colours from a fan deck I have. Although it is house paint I figured I could get the colour to match with something! BUT, before I went that  route I picked up some rustoleum off the shelf from Lowes and it is just about a perfect match. The original is half a shade darker though. I plan on using that.
I will get the sem no. next time im in the shop (either this evening or tomorrow)
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on May 23, 2019, 08:02:51 AM
Thanks Charlie, I assume your back home, hope you had a great time and congrats to you and your new bride.

Wow...thanks dude, I appreciate that. Had a great time. Okinawa is intoxicating and my bride looked gorgeous!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on May 28, 2019, 07:26:55 AM
Got some shop time in over the weekend. In addition to cleaning up the work space a bit and some organization I got some work done on the car. Got some more plastic dyed and ready to go.  Got the metal dash painted, need to pic up some seam sealer then I can paint the cowell top. Got the pass fender straight and primed, got some real paint on the rear spoiler, painted the dark on the fender tips as well as across the top of the dr. door. 2 big things left in the body dept. are the pass side door and the front end. I will hit up the door next, then attack the nose. One bonus, whilst digging through my stash of parts that came piled in the car, I found brand new in the wrapper T top weather seal! I now have all of the new rubber for the car!! Will try to post some pics tonight.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on May 28, 2019, 07:48:26 AM
Man, you are a machine! I got nothing done... Went to the lake and ran the jet skis around a bit and had some coke, with a bit of rum. Or maybe it was rum with a bit of coke..??

Can't wait for pictures!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on May 28, 2019, 10:47:44 AM
Sounds like you had more fun!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on May 28, 2019, 10:48:58 AM
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First thing I did was put this table in the corner to set crap on. It allowed me to clean up my work table, also cleaned off my workbench.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on May 28, 2019, 10:51:53 AM
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rear spoiler painted
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top edge of dr. door
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wing tips on fenders.
I need to order some more paint so I will have a consistent colour, I wanted to have paint done by mem. day, but just like all shops I missed that deadline. Maybe by july 4.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on May 28, 2019, 11:14:25 AM
So, painting the fenders off the car, how do you know for sure the paint lines will match? Is there striping that outlines the paint so you can fine tune? Sorry I don't know the 10th cars paint.

Paint looks great from here! If you're in the Toledo Ohio area, stop by and finish my car!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on May 28, 2019, 03:23:59 PM
Couple of things, I had the original paint lines on the back side of the fender, as well as the back side of the door. I also have an original paint hood. Between those things I was able to figure out where to paint the dark. As of right now it is a bit on the wide side. I will put the doors and fenders on before I paint the lighter silver. The final coat will overlap the dark colour a bit. I also got some measurements from a couple of guys with tata's as well.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on May 28, 2019, 08:17:43 PM
Popcorn is out watching the process...loving it!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: TATurbo on May 29, 2019, 07:51:07 PM
That charcoal/silver color looks great.
And...Who or what is popcorn?  I looked through the recent pics expecting to see a dog or cat somewhere?
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Casey on May 30, 2019, 12:46:28 AM
I think they meant, "Popcorn is out and I'm watching the process... loving it!!"

Sorta like this:
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on May 30, 2019, 07:44:01 AM
hahahhah...Absolutely!!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on June 04, 2019, 07:13:12 AM
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Minor update, but I have the cowell/dash area finished now. Can move on to something else. The grey on the dash is a half a shade lighter than original, but it was close enough without getting something custom figured out. I have some gloss black left from my 77 resto and used that on top of the cowell. Revisionist history so to speak. I was thinking about doing the entire engine bay in gloss. Not sure how it will look. I saw a car at a show this past weekend done that way and it looked pretty darn good. I know satin is correct. Probably wont decide until it happens.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on June 05, 2019, 02:48:40 PM
That charcoal/silver color looks great.
And...Who or what is popcorn?  I looked through the recent pics expecting to see a dog or cat somewhere?

Just me watching this build come together...sorry...lol...a rather vague reply

Cowl looks great to me
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: mereness on June 12, 2019, 06:14:07 PM
Kerry - Everything looks great.  I am just now catching up on some threads here on TAC.  I am chomping at the bit to get mine back out of storage in my garage.  What is your plan of attack next???
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on June 13, 2019, 02:12:09 PM
Glad to hear from you. In fact I drove by the guys house today where you got your car, and thought that i need to send you a text and see how things are going.
Paint is being delivered tomorrow. Everything is primed, and ready to be final sanded and painted. EXCEPTION being the pass side door and front clip. I have a couple of minor things that need done then I can put the dr door back on, then I will be able to take the pass side door off and work on that. Once the pass door is prepped and put back on, I am planning on painting the car. I would like to have the nose ready to paint as well. I wanted to have it done before Mem Day, but we all know how those things work out. Then I thought July 4, but that date is closing fast as well. Maybe by Labor Day?
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 737driver on June 14, 2019, 11:18:40 PM
I try not to set deadlines, mainly because it jinxes things. I’m kinda in the same boat with my LeMans. Hoping to have it done by Memorial Day, now by the Fourth of July but realistically maybe sometime August?  :)
Jim
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on July 29, 2019, 06:46:21 AM
I have been busy and its been extra hot and humid around here, so not much going on in the shop. Last week was pretty nice so I decided to get out there and get something done. Rocker panel on dr. side was pushed in a bit at the bottom form some dummy jacking up the car (I guess). I pulled it out a bit and did a bit of patch work. I already had the sill painted but I scuffed it up and repainted the sill, and the rocker getting all the way under to the bottom side of the floor plan. Also got the spoilers painted, and the front air dam. I gooched the clear coat on the rear centre spoiler section first time around so I had to sand that back down to primer. I repainted that as well.
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on July 29, 2019, 06:50:10 AM
Now that the dr door jamb/rocker is to my satisfaction I wanted to put the dr door back on. I made up a quick jig out of some 2x material laying around the shop. Installation went pretty easy. I had my son help with aligning the door. He tightened the bolts as I held the door in place. It is aligned pretty good, however I temp set the fender in place and will get it better. Right now the door is too close at the back edge of the jamb.
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on July 29, 2019, 06:53:50 AM
I loosened the hinge at the door and shifted it on a vertical axis to get the alignment right with the face at the rear jamb.  That part looks really good, however it is off with the fender, although the fender is not permanently bolted down yet. I then had my son help me. He loosened the hinges at the body, I held the door in place for horizontal (up and down) and had him tighten the bolts. Doing this about 2 or 3 times and we got it pretty darn close. I took the strike off for this. Now I need to move the door forward a fraction or so to get it line up with the fender better.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on July 29, 2019, 07:13:24 AM
Wow! Looking really good there Kerry! Tell me about the heat, it's been hot here too. Your work looks great!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on July 29, 2019, 10:27:28 AM
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on July 29, 2019, 10:31:41 AM
Fender is just sitting in place basically, only bolt is at the top of the cowell. Door alignment is pretty good, I could live with the gap but it needs to move forward I think. Hoping to get a bit better than factory. I took 3 washers/spacers out of the strike, but looks like I will need to put at least one back in. There were also a lot of shims on the fender connection at the firewall. Hoping I can pull that back a bit as well. I can tell already its going to be fun getting this one lined up in the front!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on July 29, 2019, 10:37:54 AM
Once I get the dr. door fiddled with enough, I am going to spin the car around in the shop and take the pass door off and attack it. That's the last bit of body work that needs to be finished. (besides finding a hood, I guess I will try and repair the crappy one that I have. I had a lot of work on the hood for my 77 and really wanted to start with something better. I have 2, one will need a good bit of work, the other which is nice and straight will need a bit of work too, but its an original paint tata hood that was given to me, Id just as soon leave that one alone.)
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Casey on July 29, 2019, 01:38:51 PM
Coming along nicely.  If the TATA hood decal and paint aren't serviceable as is(and consequently won't ever be used without restoring it) then why not use that hood if the amount of work needed to get it right is a lot less?
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on July 29, 2019, 05:23:52 PM
Because Casey, it makes some really cool wall art!!  The hood is the only piece of sheet metal I need, I thought about buying a repop, but the shipping costs on those are so high. I found some on CL but honestly don't feel like the half day plus commitment to chase one down. Getting lazy and complacent in my old age.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on July 30, 2019, 08:58:40 PM
I think it would make great wall art too

I've always wanted to cut the side of a car off and mount it on the wall like they did in the 50's and 60's

car is coming along great...love the updates
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on August 27, 2019, 02:59:00 PM
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One of the last hurdles, got the pass side door off, stripped, epoxied, filled, and primed. It came out really straight. It did have quite a few parking lot dings, but no rust (other than some light surface stuff).
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on August 27, 2019, 03:01:00 PM
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Got the inside sanded, and prepped ready for paint. I outlined where the hinges were with tape, after its painted I will be able to remove that for a pretty good locater to put the hinges back on. Should make installation a bit easier.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on August 27, 2019, 03:02:02 PM
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Got the pass side jamb all prepped and ready to spray along with the rocker. No rust here either. Its SO NICE not to have to deal with that nasty stuff!!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: chief poncho on August 27, 2019, 03:20:46 PM
Coming along nice!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on August 27, 2019, 04:45:58 PM
That's awesome! It's not that bad, it only adds a few decades to the project....
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on August 29, 2019, 07:15:40 AM
Tell me about it. I had enough on my 77 for 3 cars, so I guess I have a couple more rust free projects due me. LOL
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on August 29, 2019, 02:53:04 PM
Cool stuff...Masking the hinge placement is a good idea...thanks for the tip
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on August 29, 2019, 02:56:40 PM
I did the masking tape trick on my 77 and it worked pretty good. Not perfect but it gets real close in the ballpark right from the start. I forgot about doing it on the dr. side of this car and it was a PIA to get aligned.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on August 29, 2019, 02:57:31 PM
Makes sense
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on August 29, 2019, 04:43:58 PM
I did the drill two 1/8" hole through the hinges and into the body trick.  That worked really well. Never tried the masking tape one. Maybe I'll try that on the Formula.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: TATurbo on August 29, 2019, 08:37:21 PM
I'm jealous of all you guys getting paint laid down.  Looks awesome. I'm getting impatient but keep reminding myself that taking time is a good thing at this point in a project.

I need to ask...How do you finish the welting that goes on the spoiler pieces?  Do you install the pieces on the car, install the welting, then remove the piece and paint it with the welting left on the spoiler piece?
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on August 30, 2019, 04:45:09 AM
Usually paint the welting, then cut to size and install.  This said I plan to buy black (body color) as there is a guy on ebay who produces them in the popular body colors.  White, red, black. This will save me from painting more parts...
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on August 30, 2019, 07:34:51 AM
On my 77 hinges, I did the drill bit thing as well as the tape. I found that using the tape I didn't need to use the bit. Like I said, its not perfect but does get it a lot closer to start, plus I have reason to believe this door was factory set and it really wasn't that bad.
 
Tom, Im sure you are biting at the bit. Having your car some place that you have little control over. My car was in the shop for a year getting the motor installed I know how you feel.

When I did the welting on my black car- I made some sticks (about the size of an old fashioned yard stick) the correct thickness for the welting to slip onto. I then painted them. After they were dry I removed and installed them on the spoilers. I checked and the paint manufacture said that flex additive was already in the paint so I didn't do anything special. Super easy to paint this way, and it worked out great, several years later it still looks as good as when I did it with no cracking or pealing. I suppose I will do the same on this car.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on August 30, 2019, 11:39:30 AM
What brand or source do you use? If they are of good quality and cheaper than the guy on ebay maybe I'll go that route too. Might save me a few bucks.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on August 31, 2019, 08:12:46 AM
For the black car I got my spoiler welting from Ames. It came in a roll. Big problem I found was originally at the termination at the top of the spoiler there was a bit of a relief cut and then they were stapled in place. I did the relief cut thing but used 3m adhesive. That part has held up well too.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 01, 2019, 07:52:22 AM
Pass side jamb painted, inner door painted, and door re-installed. I used the tape trick. I mounted the hinges to the door itself, keeping them aligned with the paint marks left from taping off, then using my m/c lift adapted with a couple of boards, rolled the door in place and attached the hinges to the car. Again the location was marked with paint as I took them off. Things aligned perfect and it took me working by myself all of 5 minutes to install the door and the gap was darn near right on. I didn't even remove the strike this time.  Set the pass fender on, as well as my hood so I could get the two tone paint lines right. I have some measurements, as well as a template I made from an original paint car, but it still took a bit to get things to look correct. Kinda nerve wracking doing this without the decals. I originally oversprayed the dark colour, so after taping things off I  went back and very carefully sanded off the 'over spray' up to the tape line. Will need to hit it with primer one more time then can sand and prep and get some paint put on. Pics to  follow.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: MNBob on September 01, 2019, 02:38:25 PM
That is a lot of progress; looking forward to seeing it!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 03, 2019, 06:50:31 AM
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Jack on September 03, 2019, 06:55:33 AM
Looking good Kerry... you becoming a pro, time to change professions?
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 03, 2019, 06:57:22 AM
I got all of the primer sprayed back where I sanded the grey off. Got the dark grey sprayed on the pass side door top, and got some sanding done. All of my research tells me that the grey stripe running around the car is 1-1/4" wide. I have some tape that is 1-3/8". I am hoping that will be close enough, so I used that against the edge instead of measuring. I did have it laid out with a tape measure and marks but this way was much easier.  I really thought with the long weekend I would have gotten the car painted. BUT, another date missed, LOL.  Its getting really close, and the weather is supposed to be good this weekend but I have karate tonight, and maybe a car show Friday night, so it doesn't leave a lot of free time to get things prepped.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 03, 2019, 07:03:14 AM
Thanks Jack. Funny you say that. I have a customer I am doing a building for with a 56 chevy pickup. He knows I dabble in this stuff and has asked if I would 're-do' his pick up. I am pretty picky and can satisfy myself, but not sure if I could do a job to please someone else. Also, before I went into business for my self I would build cabinets and furniture as a side line income. I used to love to do that kind of work. As soon as I started doing it for money it became a job and not a hobby anymore. I soon grew tired of "having to go to work" as opposed to spending extra time in the shop.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on September 03, 2019, 07:48:17 AM
Great progress Kerry! Looking good. Your door gaps came out great. Does the rocker stick out at the bottom or is it flush? I have found it both ways on original cars. I guess it depends how well the body was assembled at the Fisher side of the plant...

I too am picky but I doubt I could satisfy others with body work. It is just so darn time consuming.  There is a huge time difference between really good body work and perfect body work.

Keep moving.  Every little task completed is one step closer to a finished car.

I forgot, are you planning on keeping this car? What engine are you going with?
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on September 03, 2019, 08:09:31 AM
Agreed, it looks great...like you say, when its a hobby, its enjoyable but when it becomes work, then the fun is ripped out of it sometimes!!

keep plucking away and it will be going to karate and car shows with you!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 03, 2019, 10:02:54 AM
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Kerry Grubb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156399515@N07/), on Flickr
All caught up on pics for now. All of the dark grey is now on and I can concentrate on the silver. Rockers are flush at the bottom of the door. Without weather strip the doors kinda bounce back n forth with extra play right now. My original plan was to sell it when I was finished, but the more I work on it the more I think I will keep it. I have the original motor and trans and was planning on having that rebuilt and installed. However, the more I see of you guys and your swaps the more I think that is the way I may go. Knowing what I paid the guy to do my 77, I think money wise it will be even so its kind of a tough decision right now. I like to think the car would hold its value being a 4 speed with original drive train,  however I like the idea of a modern power plant that, at least in my mind, is reliable, plenty of power and decent mileage. It all may come down to a flip of the coin. I would REALLY like to have the body stuff wrapped up by the end of autumn so I can start the drive train stuff over the winter. I  would like to have the car on the road next summer, albeit it may not be 100% finished.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on September 03, 2019, 11:25:33 AM
Tough decision with a 10th.

Back to the paint. That dark grey you just sprayed; was that just the base coat? Then spray the light gray, unmask and clear it all?
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 03, 2019, 01:20:02 PM
The grey has been clear coated. I thought about doing it the way you put it, but wasn't sure how long the entire process was going to take. I had the understanding that the base coat should have the clear applied right away, or it would need sanded again, which I am not crazy about. The guy where I get my supplies has assured me that I can let the clear sit for however long and come back on it with wet sand and buff. After I get the silver painted and cleared I plan on buffing the entire car.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 737driver on September 03, 2019, 11:44:34 PM
Great work ! I think the body and paint work is turning out great. Either way you go with the drivetrain I’m sure will turn out well. Personally I am down to my last two Pontiac engines that are getting built now (400 & 455). I plan on using them in my 71&72. I have decided to go LS on the 77. The rebuild costs on Pontiac motors are going up on price. Weighing the options, it starts making sense for Swaps, but I still love the Pontiac motors and they keep drawing me back in.
:)
Jim
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on September 04, 2019, 04:51:28 AM
So I kept thinking about the paint strips last night. What about just spraying the dark gray and clear on the top of the door without masking the hard line for the stripe? Just back mask so you don't end up with overspray every where? Than sand and prep for the light gray and then mask the actual width of the dark gray off and spray the light gray, pull the tape and clear it all. I know there are many ways to skin a cat but that way you wouldn't have to mask twice and there wouldn't be two tape lines butted up to each other.  Your doing great, it just got me thinking.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 04, 2019, 07:13:38 AM
Luke, I think that would have been a good approach, but what is done is done. I know there will be a 'cold' joint or paint ridge where the two colours meet, but if everything is right it should end up in the middle of the tape stripe. I figure I will have to take a nibbler and knock down the ridge, fine grit sand, then buff, then add decals. Thing with this paint job is I put the cart in front of the horse. I think the best way to do this would have been to paint the silver on the entire car, then mask off, paint the dark accent, then clear coat the entire thing at one time. To me this would have been about a 12 hour paint job. In my case I had the roof area finished, so I figured why not go ahead and paint it. I also have been piece mealing all of the little stuff as well. I have the spoilers, mirrors, fender vents, light trims, jambs, etc. all finished. When I paint the car it will be the body shell with doors attached, fenders loose, and trunk lid loose. Should make it a bit easier and less of a cluster. My big concern is paint match, but I figured I would just roll the dice with that one.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: cyber104 on September 04, 2019, 07:45:37 AM
Kerry - I sent you a PM - give it a look ;-)
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on September 04, 2019, 07:56:01 AM
Trust me, I know all about time management with painting. That is why only half of my car is painted.  :-D  I was thinking out loud and possibly the other side and hood opportunity. Whatever works best for you. It wasn't meant as criticism, merely bench racing, or paint booth racing in this case.

Now, back to our regular scheduled program.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 04, 2019, 08:46:00 AM
No offense at all. I did not take it as criticism, I understood your thinking completely and I agree with it.  Other side is already done. Only thing I have left to do is the hood, of which I do not have yet! I like to hear thoughts from others regarding projects. I try not do things with blinders on, if I can learn something that is good.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: mereness on September 05, 2019, 06:02:59 PM
The car is turning out amazing Kerry.  If I had the original drivetrain for my TATA, I would have stayed with it for originality.  As we know my engine was toast when I purchased the car, so my decision was easy.

Good luck with your decision and keep up the awesome job!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 15, 2019, 10:40:16 AM
 Yesterday I got the fenders painted, along with the deck lid and filler panel. Car is prepped, sanded and ready for a couple of wipe downs with final clean then some paint. This week looks like its going to be busy so it may have to wait until next weekend. Starting to get a bit excited at this point, panels look so much better with finished paint!! Kind of a boost to move forward after doing nothing but sanding for so long. Im at the wrong computer today, pics will be forthcoming.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on September 15, 2019, 05:29:40 PM
excellent news!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on September 15, 2019, 06:05:31 PM
Sweet!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Jack on September 15, 2019, 07:38:13 PM
Looking forwards to seeing the pics.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 16, 2019, 05:52:50 AM
It may be awhile!! For some reason I uploaded a bunch of pics to Flick over the weekend and none of them are showing up. I just tried a couple again and nothing. I will have to fool with it some more when I get home tonight.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Jack on September 16, 2019, 06:59:22 AM
Hopefully you did not reach your limit.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 16, 2019, 02:38:25 PM
OK, so I tried again for the third time and it worked!(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48745697917_610244f8c2_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hgurHx)2019-09-16_04-23-12 (https://flic.kr/p/2hgurHx) by Kerry Grubb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156399515@N07/), on Flickr
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Car as it sits now. Ready for a couple of wipe downs then paint. By the time I get it cleaned up again, and paint ready to go, gun cleaned, then cleared its going to be just about an all day job, so hopefully this coming Saturday is going to be good.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 16, 2019, 02:41:52 PM
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 16, 2019, 02:44:59 PM
I finished the vents months ago and had them put away in a cabinet. I just had to get them out and see how they looked installed.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on September 16, 2019, 06:38:19 PM
You do some amazing work. You spay really well! Minimal peal, better than factory sprays. I'd be scared to mount those without scratching them. Those look amazing! Can you please come and finish mine?
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 16, 2019, 07:07:48 PM
Thanks for the kind words, they are encouraging. I am really starting to impress myself, LOL. I am very pleased with how these parts have come out so far. I was hoping that the finish off the gun would be good enough not to have to wet sand and buff/polish, but I ended up with a few bits of dust. The clear I am using is 'finish 1', and it seems to be working really well. On these parts I put on 4 coats, letting them flash over for about 5 minutes between coats.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on September 16, 2019, 08:13:19 PM
Was the stripe carried onto the inner part of the fender when factory applied? Just curious how they did it. I know the whole front clip was applied as a unit at the factory but I don't know how the multi color parts were sprayed.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 17, 2019, 06:06:12 AM
The two tone paint was carried through to the inside edge of the fender, I masked off and painted it exactly as it was. The tape stripe turned down on the corner just a bit but did not go all of the way.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 17, 2019, 06:07:23 AM
I sent you an email Luke.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Jack on September 17, 2019, 06:09:33 AM
Great work Kerry, the car will be stunning once done.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on September 17, 2019, 09:59:47 AM
Thanks, I sent it back. I don't check my email much anymore unless I ordered something from Amazon.... Hope it makes sense...
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 21, 2019, 03:11:11 PM
Got the car painted today! I think it came out ok. Havent looked at it since I finished spraying. Will go back out after dinner when its had a chance to dry and see how things look. Pics to follow.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Jack on September 21, 2019, 04:30:59 PM
That's huge, looking forwards to seeing some pics.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on September 22, 2019, 07:01:23 PM
Dude! The suspense is killing me!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: TATurbo on September 22, 2019, 07:48:45 PM
Congrats Kerry!  I'm stoked for you! The pieces on the previous page look awesome.  Great job.  No all that's left to do is put it back together....Right?
Let me know if you could use a set of hands.  IIRC you're not too far down the road.
Can't wait to see it out in the sun!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 23, 2019, 06:15:47 AM
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 23, 2019, 06:17:19 AM
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Steve B on September 23, 2019, 06:18:37 AM
Things are coming along nicely.  Great job!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 23, 2019, 06:24:01 AM
Sorry for the duplicate post. Trying to do 3 things at once here. Paint job was a bit disappointing. I would say its a 6/10. I had a run on top of the quarter (of all the paint Ive sprayed this is only like the second run I have had), a couple of small bugs, and lots of dust. I have done a bit of research and I think I can sand it down with 1000g and recoat. I think most of the problems will wet sand and buff out. I think I will try the worst spot this afternoon and if it doesn't work I will recoat. I had none of these problems with my black car, but I also had a nice tent setup with positive air flow. I was a bit more complacent this time around and frankly my attitude was, 'it'll buff out'. I didn't want to take the time to put plastic up. We shall see...….
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on September 23, 2019, 06:29:31 AM
Looks great from 100s of miles away!

Pro tip for the runs. Cover the run area (the area you will be wet sanding with plastic filler (bondo). Let it harden and then sand it. The filler will keep you from sanding through to the base coat and and only let the run get sanded. Make sense?
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on September 23, 2019, 11:53:35 AM
Looks great from 100s of miles away!

Pro tip for the runs. Cover the run area (the area you will be wet sanding with plastic filler (bondo). Let it harden and then sand it. The filler will keep you from sanding through to the base coat and and only let the run get sanded. Make sense?

Interesting!!!

Never would have thought of that!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on September 23, 2019, 02:33:54 PM
I actually saw it on youtube a while back. I Works great!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Jack on September 23, 2019, 05:37:09 PM
I actually saw it on youtube a while back. I Works great!

I can see that working but I would think you need a lot of practice.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on September 23, 2019, 06:09:38 PM
I have used this technique and it works. Start with 1200 until the majority of the filler is gone and then switch to 1500 to blend and finish as usual.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 24, 2019, 06:47:37 AM
Kinda makes sense, I assume the bondo wont stick to the clear coat that well. Another trick (saw a guitar guy doing it) I was gonna try was to tape each end of a razor blade so the centre of it was a millimeter or two raised from the surface. Then scrape over the run. I think it would work on a flat, but this is right where the curve starts over the rear wheel, dont think it will work too well in this application.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on September 24, 2019, 08:18:01 AM
The filler actually stuck pretty good for me but I wet sanded it off and buffed it. I did this on my red truck bumper.

I found this video of a guy trying it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fheERlqNzQA
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 24, 2019, 09:16:01 AM
Just got back from my paint supplier. He has talked me into sanding and shooting another coat. I didn't really want to, but it will have to be sanded and buffed so I may as well shoot another coat of clear and have something decent to start with. It looks like I may be able to sneak out of work this afternoon and get started on it.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on September 24, 2019, 09:59:11 AM
Good salesman  :D
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Boosted78TA on September 24, 2019, 10:40:18 AM
Positive thoughts for better results.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 24, 2019, 06:55:32 PM
Well, as things often do around my house, plans changed again. I went to the paint store this morning to pick up some sand paper. Kind of a mom n pop auto part store. The guys there know me and are very knowledgable. I explained how my clear was pretty good but had a run and one spot had orange peel pretty bad. I was debating on whether or not to re-coat, the guy there who also does paint and body work suggested to go ahead and re-coat, so I left there thinking that was the plan. I got finished in the office early today so I went out to the shop to get started. I would try to correct my mistake first, figuring I was going to be sanding the whole thing again anyway. On the run I started with 400, then 800, then 1500. It came out really nice, without me pointing it out the average guy would be hard pressed to see where it was. On the area with the heavy peel, I figured on trying the same thing. Again, it came out great! SO, I just went ahead with the 'cut - n - buff'. I wet sanded from 1500 through 3000. Then I hit it with some cutting compound, then got one side done with polishing compound. A bit more buffing tomorrow night and I think I will have something.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on September 24, 2019, 07:46:02 PM
See, I thought so. The only reason you couldn't have sanded it out is if the run slid the color coat or the run was in the color coat. I could roll clear coat on with a 3/8 nap roller and still sand and buff it to glass unless there was lint in the coat but most would come out.

Anyway, glad you tried to fix it first. I am in awe of your speed and quality of work. Can't wait for pictures!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 25, 2019, 06:44:24 AM
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 25, 2019, 06:47:20 AM
wet sanded, and pics show right after 1  hit with the buffer, wool pad and cutting compound. I have since hit it a second time with polishing compound with a finer wool pad, last step I will use foam and a finer polishing compound. Hopefully will get to it tonight. The quarter in the pic was the worst spot on the car with some heavy orange peel.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on September 25, 2019, 08:03:19 AM
Dang! That looks great! Better than original. The stripe looks  good too.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on September 25, 2019, 09:46:01 PM
Agreed...that turned out great
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: DeVilliers on September 26, 2019, 03:29:29 AM
Wow! This is looking good  8)
Great progress so far!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 26, 2019, 06:52:14 AM
Got the entire body polished up last night. A couple of times around with finer grits of polish and wool bonnet, then a final hit with 3m polish and a foam pad. I have to say it turned out great! I would say for a garage paint job with no dust protection its a 9/10. For a pro job done with a booth, its about a 7/10. I have seen a lot worse, and seen some nicer ones too. Now I need to figure what direction to go to. I think I have found another taillight ( I had 6 pieces, 4 t/a, 2 firebird, all were bad except for one t/a driver side). May start at the back and work from there for now, seems to be the least amount of work. Trunk is solid, just needs cleaned and a coat of paint. Then put on spoilers, etc. working towards the front.

I have less than $1000. in this paint job. That includes primer, paint, clear coat, some sand paper. I already had epoxy, cleaners, some sand paper, 'bondo' and supplies, paint guns, buffer, compounds, etc.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on September 26, 2019, 09:04:35 AM
Wow! $1000, that's amazing.  What brand of paint and primer are you using?
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: jmb36TA on September 26, 2019, 09:34:28 AM
I just came across this thread since I haven’t been on this site for a while. You’re doing some awesome work. I’ve always liked the 10th anniversary model. I had an offer to buy one right after I got my 69 but I had just spent some money one the 69 so I had to pass. Your console repair is excellent! I’m currently working on a 79 Z28, doing the same thing you’re doing here, and my console just has a few gouges in it. Not sure how to repair that though. My t-tops are in the same condition as yours. I got new covers and one piece of new rubber but can’t find the other piece that goes on there. Maybe you can help me out? I’m looking for the piece that’s attached to the metal rail. The other piece is easy to find and came with the weather strip kit I ordered.

Can’t wait to see this finished!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 26, 2019, 04:21:33 PM
If you can send me a pic of the parts you are looking for that would be great. I have 3 or 4 tops, I may be able to round something up for you. You can email me direct if you want.
morgandane@zoominternet.net
Kerry
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 26, 2019, 04:33:55 PM
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OK, these are the last of the pics until I get some body panels installed. This is how it looks after paint, clear coat, wet sand up to 3000 grit, 2 buffs with wool pad and final buff with polish compound and foam pad.

Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on September 26, 2019, 08:35:42 PM
WOW...that looks awesome!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on September 26, 2019, 10:00:49 PM
I am jealous! I'm fighting orange peel.  I'm starting to figure it out as I'm spraying.  I figure by the time I'm done I'll know exactly how to forget what I learned... That is one awesome paint job there!  :shock: :shock: Looks beautiful.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 737driver on September 28, 2019, 09:19:10 PM
Our new cat (Buster) really is really impressed with your progress!
Jim

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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on September 29, 2019, 10:30:18 AM
Very wise cat! LOL
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: meine ehre on October 02, 2019, 05:22:22 PM
the quality control cat...
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: chief poncho on October 09, 2019, 04:25:46 PM
Paint came out looking great. 
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 10, 2019, 05:39:03 AM
Wow, that's looking great!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on October 10, 2019, 06:34:47 AM
Got the trunk lid installed and buffed out, rear spoiler on. The centre piece needs a bit of adjustment, I have found a set of taillights so hopefully can get those ordered today. Will update pics once I get a few more pieces bolted on. I figure the least amount of work is at the rear of the car. I plan on getting that as close to finished as possible then move forward.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on October 10, 2019, 03:54:04 PM
Anxiously awaiting the eye candy...please get some pics as soon as you are able!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on October 15, 2019, 09:53:06 AM
5 days and no photos... Didn't really happen... :cool:
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on October 15, 2019, 03:36:39 PM
I have been doing a little bit, honest! LOL.  Took the nose completely apart for that rebuild. I sandblasted the steel bumper pretty clean, took it to the bench for final prep and noticed one end looked wonky. Further inspection revealed it was bent, which is odd because the nose has never been apart and is original to the car. No damage to the front fender either. Only thing I figure is the rubber part had enough play/stretch to it that it took a hit and bounced back. I remembered that I had a spare behind the barn so I blasted that one too. Got it primed and ready for paint. Gonna hit all the small metal bits now and try to paint everything at one time. Maybe this weekend...…..
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on October 16, 2019, 07:31:11 AM
OK, you asked, LOL(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48881979177_c74cc9ca0d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2htwVor)2019-10-11_02-51-29 (https://flic.kr/p/2htwVor) by Kerry Grubb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156399515@N07/), on Flickr
Nose before resto, note the sad, droopy eyes :(
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Apart for paint. For those that may not know what goes on inside one of these, there is a heavy steel bumper, a plastic egg crate for shape, and a mild stamped steel plate that the lights attach to. I havent counted but there must be 500 parts associated with the front end, including all of the adjusting screws and springs, light bezels, mounting brackets etc.  The parking lights looked to be in pretty good shape, so i sprayed them off with windex to clean them. I put them in the dishwasher for a good scrubbing but my wife had a few quick words about that. It seems the smell from the thread buster spray was permeating throughout. She didn't like that it was going to stink up our dishes. I dont know why? So is soaked them in the sink overnight with dish liquid and put them back in the washer for todays cycle. Shall see how they come out.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on October 16, 2019, 09:19:35 AM
5 days and no photos... Didn't really happen... :cool:

That made me laugh...did you notice we still don't have any photos of the spoiler going on or the trunk lid and how it fits?
I mean, we can just barely see it in one of the photos if you zoom in past the nose work, which looks great btw!!




Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on October 16, 2019, 09:27:46 AM
I did zoom in too! Car looks great! Have fun lining up that spoiler.  I hope I can get mine back the way I test fit it after I paint it.

I did the same thing with the nose of my car. You are right, there are more parts in the nose than anywhere else on the body.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on October 16, 2019, 09:35:44 AM
OK...so what's the usual process/plan to get rid of the drooping look (which doesn't look that bad to me), and the other semi wavy sections to look straight again?
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on October 16, 2019, 10:01:12 AM
I didn't realize until I posted that the car was in the back ground with previous un-recorded changes, LOL!! I think I saw in the fisher body manual recommendations of how to shim and align the rear spoiler. Will have to dig that out. My nose piece is actually pretty straight, I was referring to the light bezels. Biggest issue is around the grills. I am hoping that once I get them put back in place they will straighten out a bit. Funny thing with the headlight trims is that they are 'bright'. I thought they should be black. Nose is original to car ( as evidence of original paint when I stripped off the primer), I guess the black may have worn off over time like the window trim did.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on October 16, 2019, 12:45:41 PM
Not sure. My original headlight retainers are bright as well. The aluminum trim is black though.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on October 16, 2019, 03:27:14 PM
Not sure about trans ams, but I have seen a couple of low mileage original TATA's and they had black headlight trim. I cleaned mine up today with a brass wire wheel and saw zero signs of black paint anywhere on the 2 that I have done so far. You would think if it wore off like the window trim there would be some evidence of original paint. They may have been changed out with headlights at some time though.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: nigel on October 17, 2019, 01:16:11 AM
Hi roadking77 sent you an email back about the rear window trim can you check your spam thanks Nigel.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on October 17, 2019, 07:28:47 AM
Will do Nigel.
Mystery solved with light trims. It seems I am missing the outer bezels (ouch I see they are about $80 ea.), which is the black part. The bright part I have is the headlight retainer which I believe should be bright metal. At least they clean up great with a wire wheel and I have all 4 of those.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on October 17, 2019, 08:31:50 AM
Those black trim rings are pot metal or something. I put one in my tumbler and ruined it, so be careful.  I have a stack of them but probably one one good set for my car. They seem to pit and that is not easy fixed. I tried to add metal back with my TIG welder and it just melted the spot so I'm not really sure what they are made of. I will look and see what I have though.  Also they take a hard to find long torx screws which are two different lengths.  (At least it was hard for me to find them).
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on October 17, 2019, 05:08:02 PM
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Front turn lights. They were pretty nasty after 40 yrs. Soaked them in soapy water over night, then they took a spin in the dishwasher. Came out looking almost as good as new.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on October 17, 2019, 07:13:30 PM
Wow! Those look great! My wife gets upset when I bring parts into the house! I had the nose in my livingroom earlier this year and I had the hood in my foyer after I painted it because the temp outside dropped... 

I may have to try that with a set. Those look really good.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: b_hill_86 on October 17, 2019, 07:42:44 PM
Yea I wish I had tried that before I ruined a light trying to clean it
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on October 17, 2019, 08:41:50 PM
Lenses came out great!!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on October 18, 2019, 06:58:00 AM
I have run a few plastic parts through the dishwasher. And yes my wife is mostly non-compliant. I will try to sneak them into a load for the most part, LOL. I have a spare room over the garage that is storage for finished parts, my t tops, a dash I restored a few years ago, rear package tray, and a couple of other things. Other than that im not allowed to bring stuff in the house.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: nigel on October 18, 2019, 02:21:36 PM
Your right about the light bezels being pot metal, monkey metal or a material called zamak which is zinc alloy and other not so nice stuff, the problem with this metal is porosity and impurities coming to the surface over many years, as yet I don't think there is a way of repairing it to a metal/alloy finish but if you were going to shoot paint over the surface body filler would work I guess.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on October 18, 2019, 10:22:46 PM
I have run a few plastic parts through the dishwasher. And yes my wife is mostly non-compliant. I will try to sneak them into a load for the most part, LOL. I have a spare room over the garage that is storage for finished parts, my t tops, a dash I restored a few years ago, rear package tray, and a couple of other things. Other than that im not allowed to bring stuff in the house.

Well, it is always easier to ask for forgiveness than permission

Having a clean safe spot for parts is a great asset!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on October 21, 2019, 01:35:53 PM
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Went to napa and picked up some new headlights. Wire wheeled the buckets and got a couple coats of paint on them. Took about 20 min per light. Got the metal parts cleaned and painted as well. Ordered a bunch of stuff from Ames to put the front back. Should be here in a day or two.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on October 21, 2019, 01:37:47 PM
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Got some window trim wire wheeled and sanded and self etching primer then paint. I used appliance epoxy, colour was black stainless. It came out grey. It looks really good with the silver paint but im gonna have to go with satin black as im a stickler for originality.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on October 21, 2019, 01:50:00 PM
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: chief poncho on October 21, 2019, 01:53:23 PM
Nice clean trim pieces.  I like that gray color, but like you said, not correct.  I bet it matches the 10th's paint scheme well.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on October 21, 2019, 01:57:23 PM
Its a bit darker than the dark colour, but the finish is really nice. It does look great against the silver car, if I was doing some kind of mild custom I would leave them, but I just cant do it with this one. I used satin black appliance epoxy out of a spray bomb on the trim for my 77 and it still looks great. That's what I was shooting for.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on October 21, 2019, 02:28:04 PM
Ok, so I'm going to be working on my trim as well soon.

1) What maid you use self etching primer installed of epoxy?
2) What satin black are going to try now? I have some SEM from my dash paint job. Is that an option.
3) What type of wire wheel? Nylon, brass or fine steel?

Thanks for the pictures!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on October 21, 2019, 04:33:46 PM
- I just figured the self etching primer would bite into the raw metal better, but that's just speculation.
- I am not sure about the satin black at this time. I will have to look on my shelf and see if I had any left over from the 77, at least to see what I used. I dont know how durable the sem would be exposed to the elements directly, I wouldn't use it but that's just me. It may be fine.
- I used a brass wheel on an electric drill. I have a cheapy Ryobi plug in model for that kind of thing. It has much higher rpms than battery drills. The wheel I used was kinda coarse, could've been finer I spose. After wire wheel I hit it with 320 sand paper, then a good wipe down with final clean and paint.

I just got in from the shop, I finished all of the front windshield trim and the rear window trim. They are all finished in primer as of now, until I figure what satin I will use.

I boofed the pair in the above picture, I lightly sanded them and then sprayed some rustoleum satin I had on them. It bubbled all up and orange peeled beyond belief. Rather than fooling with that pair I picked up another out of the pile and started from scratch.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on October 24, 2019, 08:50:32 AM
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I think this is the first package of new parts I have had to buy (other than paint). Fasteners and hardware for the front end.
I placed 2 orders last Saturday, one from Ames and the other from NPD. According to their shipping maps I am in the 2 day delivery. Ames package showed up yesterday (wed) and as of now (thurs) I am still waiting on NPD. Not that I am in a hurry but it irritates me that they advertise a 2 day delivery that takes at least 4 days.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 24, 2019, 09:16:43 AM
Ok, so I'm going to be working on my trim as well soon.

1) What maid you use self etching primer installed of epoxy?
2) What satin black are going to try now? I have some SEM from my dash paint job. Is that an option.
3) What type of wire wheel? Nylon, brass or fine steel?

Thanks for the pictures!

When I painted the trim on my 1976 T/A, I used SEM trim black and painted right to the bare metal. I scuffed it up with scotch brite pads first, but it had excellent adhesion.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on October 30, 2019, 03:08:10 PM
OK, so after a week and a half, I finally got a new order from NPD. I think the original was lost in transit so they just sent me a new order. Now I should have all of the parts to put the nose back together. Everything is painted (except the cover) and ready to re-assemble. Weather has been too damp to paint. I was thinking about throwing caution to the wind and painting the cover with final paint but I may just do it in primer until I can get it mounted and aligned with the fenders. Common sense is telling me this is the best way to go. I had to do a bit of manipulation on my 77 to get everything lined up good, and if the paint is already on that will be a mistake. Hoping I can get some shop time over the weekend.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on November 01, 2019, 06:22:36 AM
Started to reassemble the nose yesterday afternoon only to realize I had the wrong headlight bucket, so now I am back to waiting on parts. Hopefully I can find a good used one pretty quickly. I had 3 with the car and I had one in my stash of parts. So I restored all 4 put the lights in and was ready to go, not thinking too much about the fact that they are directional. I also got a set of used taillights in the mail yesterday, they are not perfect but I would say 7.5 out of 10, with some cleaning and sprucing up I think they can be a 9/10. Price was a lot cheaper than a new set for $1000.!!! Guess I will work on those while waiting for the headlight.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: allenga on November 01, 2019, 07:38:50 AM
- I just figured the self etching primer would bite into the raw metal better, but that's just speculation.
- I am not sure about the satin black at this time. I will have to look on my shelf and see if I had any left over from the 77, at least to see what I used. I dont know how durable the sem would be exposed to the elements directly, I wouldn't use it but that's just me. It may be fine.
- I used a brass wheel on an electric drill. I have a cheapy Ryobi plug in model for that kind of thing. It has much higher rpms than battery drills. The wheel I used was kinda coarse, could've been finer I spose. After wire wheel I hit it with 320 sand paper, then a good wipe down with final clean and paint.

I just got in from the shop, I finished all of the front windshield trim and the rear window trim. They are all finished in primer as of now, until I figure what satin I will use.

I boofed the pair in the above picture, I lightly sanded them and then sprayed some rustoleum satin I had on them. It bubbled all up and orange peeled beyond belief. Rather than fooling with that pair I picked up another out of the pile and started from scratch.

Looks nice.  I am getting my trim powdercoaded satin black.  I need to get fine scratches out.  Did you wet sand yours smooth or just dry 320?
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on November 01, 2019, 09:37:59 AM
I actually left mine pretty rough so the self etching primer would have something to 'bite into'. I used a medium brass wire wheel on an electric drill. I did have one piece that was pretty nice that I wet sanded with 400 and it came up pretty nice. I think you could go finer if need be. I still may do an experiment and finish with a buffer to see what kind of shine I can get (I have a few spares). Did you check with the powder coat guy as far as the scratches? My experience with PC is that its fairly heavy, I cant imagine that fine scratches would make that much diff.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: allenga on November 01, 2019, 10:59:04 AM
Hi Kerry, yes my PC guy said get them smooth so nothing shows through..
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on November 01, 2019, 11:30:43 AM
Interesting... I used to power coat and the rougher the better.  It really needs something to attach itself too. Maybe things have changed?
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on November 01, 2019, 12:29:06 PM
Now that I need one more part (headlight bucket) and its too cold to paint, I am kinda dead in the water at this point. I have been out in the shop ( I took the day off) for the last 45 minutes staring blankly into space trying to think of something to get into. Plenty of stuff needs done, just dont feel like starting anything. Out of boredom I counted the number of pieces on the front end of a 79 trans am. Including everything, bolts, captive nuts, brackets, light bulbs etc. I came up with 184 pieces!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on November 01, 2019, 12:34:30 PM
I did pick up some rustoleum brand rust eater to soak some parts including the gas door that I just got. I have had great luck with 'evaporust' but the rustoleum is what auto zone had. Will see how well it works.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on November 06, 2019, 03:29:33 PM
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Gas door before.....
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and after. Results seem to be pretty good. I will wash them, then wire wheel.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on November 06, 2019, 03:32:22 PM
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Working on taillights. I need to finish up with the polishing, then get them painted. I picked up this novus stuff years ago at my local HD dealer to polish the windshield of my bike. It seems to work really well with a small buffer wheel on a drill.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: TATurbo on November 06, 2019, 08:01:21 PM
Those light covers look like they are cleaning up nicely.  Mine were a nightmare. Although they ended up better than when we started, they  will need to be replaced.
Nice job!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on November 06, 2019, 08:17:20 PM
Yes, they are looking good. What's your address again? I'll send you mine, I'm sure they need some work. Did you find a headlight trim yet? I may have some but I have look. Maybe we can trade some rear window trim...
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on November 07, 2019, 08:06:24 AM
Tom, I went over your post regarding you venture with the taillight resto for tips/inspiration, thanks. They outer covers are darn near perfect, just a bit weathered that is cleaning up nicely. I think I was lucky to find such a good set for what I think was a good price. I dont have $1k to put towards a set of lights, that money can go towards a motor rebuild!
Luke, I am not patient I broke down and ordered one from ames. It should be on my doorstep today or tomorrow. But its just about getting too cold to work in the barn now. My one project over the spring and summer was to finish the insulation, int. walls and get a heater put in. GUESS WHAT?, im still waiting, LOL.
I have a quite a few short pieces of window trim for both front and rear, just not the long pieces. If you need something let me know, I will be glad to help you out.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on November 07, 2019, 08:58:19 AM
Thanks Kerry,

I sent you an email.

How are you stripping and painting the headlight trim rings? I have found they get pitted and are made of some odd pot metal or something.  I tried to TIG weld a corner on one of mine and it just popped and splattered. I ruined it... Had to find another.

I sanded a few and they keep showing pits that I guess I'll have to fill. What are your thoughts on them? I'd also like to hear a review on the one repop you ordered.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on November 07, 2019, 07:55:11 PM
Its not the headlight trims. I do not have those on hand yet. I just got the headlight bucket in the mail today, haven't even opened the box yet. Will dig into it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: T A Troy on November 14, 2019, 07:22:38 PM
HI
  I think I may have the paint code you are looking for on the factory wheels. I was on the phone with Dupont for about 4 hour and a lady helped me with the number. I have used it and it looks like a perfect match to me. I have the Nason number for the color. Nason  is usually a single stage paint but all that you have to do is use the nason base coat binder number is 435-93. The gold color number is YM033 IC  Spectramaster Med Neut. Again this is a Nason color. I do not know of a color chip from them with this number but you could have a pint mixed to compare it with something original. I used this color for a car that I restored for a old member that is no longer with us. It was Macho 17 and the members name was Ken 77. All of the gold on the car was the color that I am talking about.

Troy
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on November 15, 2019, 08:16:27 AM
Thanks for the info Troy, I have made a note of that, but I think you hit the wrong thread. I will put a note in the other for reference.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on November 28, 2019, 08:51:10 AM
I slipped off of page 1 so I figured I better make a post, lol. Been too cold to get much done in the shop. I took off yesterday and it was warm enough to get some painting done. I got the inner fenders finish sanded and  epoxied, and primed the nose. Maybe get some real paint on things tomorrow.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Jack on November 29, 2019, 09:16:42 AM
You know the rules Kerry, without pics it did not happen.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on November 29, 2019, 01:10:09 PM
I know Jack, 99.9% of my phone (camera) use  is business. When I take off it stays on the charger in the office. I probably wont even look at it until Monday morning, LOL. Got the tire side of the fender wells painted today, and the nose sanded and another coat of hi-build. I heated the shop a bit and said what the heck. Its about 45 out and only going to get colder for the next couple of days. I hope to get back into the shop later this afternoon and finish the motor side of the fender wells so I can check one more thing off the to do list.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on December 02, 2019, 03:19:05 PM
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Inner fenders, painted. I hit them with a ro sander, then wire wheel on a high speed drill. I spent a couple of evenings getting them stripped to bare metal. They were surprisingly clean and rust free and no access hole cut for the blower motor replacement! I hit them with epoxy then single stage gloss black (I had leftover from my 77). Temps were hovering in the mid to upper 40's in the shop which I figure is about as low as I want to spray paint. They came out surprisingly well. I have been going back and forth what sheen to use, factory should be a bit duller but I have the gloss and figured it may dress up the engine bay a bit.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on December 02, 2019, 03:23:15 PM
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Got 3 coats of hi-build on the nose. First was just because, then I sanded and had a couple of divets that needed repairs. I used some flex filler I had, then another coat, more sanding, a bit more filler and another coat. Sanded again and had to put a bit more filler in one spot were someone put a bolt through above the grille. Also filled the holes for the tag bracket just in case I want to leave that off. Ready for one more coat of primer, to seal everything then some real paint. I hope to get it painted this weekend in my small shop that is pretty easy to heat.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on December 02, 2019, 03:27:12 PM
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I had been wanting to put something on my car to keep the dirt off. I was getting ready to paint and figured I would put on some plastic or a drop cloth or two. Then I remembered about a car cover I had laying in the corner of the garage. I bought this in 1982 for my then new firebird. This was a well used cover that I kept on the car at all times. I kept it just because im a packrat when I sold the car. Though custom made for a third gen, it fits the second very well. Unfortunately it has suffered a bit of dry rot but all in all it has held up pretty good.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on December 02, 2019, 03:47:17 PM
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Bonus- found these in my 'stash' of parts. They had some surface rust and paint flaking and in bad shape. Soaked for a few days in Rustoleum rust remover, now they look brand new. I will hit them with some scotchbright to shine them up a bit.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: MNBob on December 02, 2019, 03:48:01 PM
Fender wells and nose look fantastic!  I did my fender wells with spray cans but they came out pretty good.

I think the gloss will be fine, it is easy to clean and if it dulls at all it will be close to the satin.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 737driver on December 03, 2019, 03:15:49 AM
Those inner fenders look really great! I really like the gloss paint and how it looks on the inner fenders.
Jim
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on December 03, 2019, 08:50:28 AM
On my 77 I used spray cans from eastwood. My thought process was that it would be easy to touch up and keep looking decent, but several years later they still look great. I was originally going to get them blasted and powder coated but me being the cheapskate that I am, decided to tackle them myself. Since I had paint leftover from before the only real expense was for a couple of sheets of sandpaper. Although I do have probably upwards of 16 hrs between the sanding and painting.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on December 03, 2019, 10:43:39 AM
Looks great Kerry! Iij should have asked for those close out plates! I could have saved a bunch of hours if I got some as nice as those!

I was under the impression you couldn't use high build primer on the urethane as it doesn't flex. I may have read that wrong somewhere. That's why i have tons of hours wet sanding epoxy and urethane filler....

All looks great, keep it up!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on December 03, 2019, 03:02:46 PM
I hope your wrong!! But maybe not.  Its the same stuff I used on my 77 and it has held up thus far, we shall see. I really wanted to get real paint on the nose before I installed it but am afraid of alignment issues. I will paint the bottom dark grey colour though and wait on the silver.
I got lucky with the close out panels. I was looking through boxes of parts in my stash a few weeks ago and found them. I dont even remember where or when I got them, but my guess was they came from Yetti. They really are nice, no rust at all. I soaked them in rust remover and got all of the paint off. I may have bought them for my 77 as they were really bad. I had to cut an patch them together to make them look decent. So happens I need one for my tata and I have found someone that needs the other. I have a bad habit of buying parts that look like a good deal, IF I think I may be able to use them at some time. I found a box of perfect door hinges as well, still unopened in the box they came in. I bought what I think are a really nice set of grilles for the 79 a year ago but cant remember what I did with them! They too have never been opened.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on December 03, 2019, 06:12:09 PM
Ya, I too buy parts all the time, hence the second floor full of parts...
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: b_hill_86 on December 03, 2019, 06:51:03 PM
Geez. I practically gave away a perfect set of those panels not knowing what they were at the time.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on December 27, 2019, 02:30:44 PM
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Warm enough to get some paint put on finally. The nose is  almost the final touch in the escape from paint jail (still need to find or fix the hood I have and finish it).
I put on the last coat of primer/filler last night, sanded this morning up to 320, this is the dark colour, once dry enough I will mask it off and hit the silver, then clear the whole thing. Although pretty warm (50deg) for Dec, its still a  bit chilly for the paint to dry thoroughly so I will wait until tomorrow to finish the other coats.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: MNBob on December 27, 2019, 03:04:57 PM
That looks fantastic; great job.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on December 27, 2019, 03:41:30 PM
Wow, that looks really good. It laid out nice and I don't see any junk in it.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on December 27, 2019, 04:50:58 PM
Thanks, I just got back from a road trip with the wife and took a look at this and took the tape off. It did really come out nice. Nice and even colour and no junk at all. One good thing about painting this time of year, NO BUGS!!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on December 28, 2019, 03:21:32 AM
it turned out looking great!!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on December 28, 2019, 02:44:51 PM
Silver painted, had a bit of a problem. I had one spot that was too heavy, and I tried my best to avoid this, and another that had a run. Let it sit for a few hours, sanded it down again and one more coat of paint. I literally used my last drop, so I hope it works this time!! Will need to order another quart for the hood. Taking a break to let things dry, about to head back to the shop to put on some clear. Pics to follow...……….
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: TATurbo on December 28, 2019, 11:00:40 PM
Looks awesome!

Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on December 30, 2019, 12:32:25 PM
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on December 30, 2019, 12:36:54 PM
One bolt on the headlight backer/support was missing, I had a spare panel that I was able to cut a bolt out of
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cut all of the existing loose metal off....
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grind down a bit and clean up....
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and tacked into place (top corner)
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on December 30, 2019, 12:44:50 PM
Nose piece all back together, all new hardware makes a big difference. Im not sure what my issue is (among many I suppose), but I cant get the headlights put in to save my butt!!!. I had them mounted to the header panel no problem but had to remove them to insert the push in plug that anchors the nose. These became a major pia to put back. I think it would have been easier if I took the lights out first. I stripped one adjuster screw and broke another of the plastic anchors so I need to do a re-order. Gonna get some more stuff whilst im at it I spose'. I think Im going to install it back on the car just to get it out of the way. Next up I will try to repair one of the hoods that I have.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on December 30, 2019, 01:42:34 PM
Man that came out great! You are going to beat me to the finish with this car. You have accomplished so much in a short time and all of it high quality work. Mad props to you. (I think that's how the kids today say it).

Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 737driver on December 30, 2019, 04:24:45 PM
Looks great! The nose piece can be a real pain to get right but it turned out great. Fantastic work!
Jim
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on December 30, 2019, 09:48:43 PM
yup...what they said...looks great
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on December 31, 2019, 08:30:02 AM
I have a set of nos grilles some place, need to see if I remember where I put them and get them installed as well. First round of clear came out perfect with the exception of 1 run, so I sanded that off, sanded over the entire piece and hit it again ( I probably could have left it alone and wet sanded, and buffed it out with no problem, but I was hoping not to have to buff the nose).  I had a couple of small issues that came up with the second go round  and I will most likely end up with a cut -n-buff of the front anyway. Overall it did come out really nice, considering it was raining and the humidity level must have been really high with temps in the 40's. Most people would not notice the problems I see and I figure this is going to be the first line of defense against bugs and road crap anyway so it should be fine.
AND, I had a small box of hardware parts that I bought for the re-install. Among them were light bulbs for the parking lamps. Ames has what they call an "original type" bulb that is painted yellow, not the yellowish glass. They cost about $1 more and since I like things 'correct' I ordered a set. I stepped and heard a CRUNCH, laying under foot was one of them! It will be on the order as well. I dont mind spending money on parts, I hate to have to buy things twice though!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on December 31, 2019, 11:01:07 AM
Nice... I wonder how many new parts get bought, ruined,  lost and or not used. I bet there is thousands of dollars worth.

By the way we're at a huge water park
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: RamblerRacer on January 01, 2020, 07:40:18 PM
The nose looks fantastic Kerry.

Did you have the urethane completely off the inner support at all?
Most of your pics on the previous page are not showing up.
I'm just wondering if it had a lot of "checking" and cracking
Reading the text though you can tell the work that went into it.

I do not plan to go to the extent of pulling the flexible cover off
My plan is to get the nose off and paint it separately too though.

Jim
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on January 02, 2020, 08:40:44 AM
Yes I had the entire thing completely apart (I counted something like 180 individual parts and fasteners!), I am a bit nervous as to how well things will align when I put them back together. I had some issues with my 77 that I had to repair after the fact. I am hoping It will be close enough. At this point I just wanted to get it painted and put back together.
There were a couple of areas, very slight that had some 'checking'. I actually did have a lot of time into this part, and after multiple primers and sanding everything came out smooth. The funny thing was that nothing was visible until I hit the surface with the final clean paint prep, then I could see them showing through. Once painted they were a no show, and once clear coated they were a no show. My experience with my 77 is that it is only a matter of time until they will rear their ugly heads!

Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on January 02, 2020, 08:44:38 AM
Ya, I can see some showing through on my nose now as well. I may try to sand and buff to see if they go away.  Or, just look the other way.... :D
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on January 02, 2020, 08:46:20 AM
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on January 02, 2020, 08:52:05 AM
Dont know why my before pics went away but figured I would repost.
Luke, My plan for this car is to get it in drivable condition, not do a complete nut and bolt like my 77. If there are a few things not up to snuff, honestly I dont really care. That is not an excuse to do bad work (im too fastidious for that anyway, lol) but I am not trying to get caught up on every tiny detail. I did that with my 77 and after having it on the road for a few years now I realize it doesn't make any difference to anyone that I had custom mixed paint to match the factory primer on the underside of the car!! Or the fact that I removed every nut and bolt, cleaned, painted, or replaced them. Im not going into that level of detail with this one.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on January 02, 2020, 10:53:07 AM
Ya, I hear you. With my personality it tough to pull myself back and think about "will it really matter" in the long run. I really just want to drive it. I do not keep exteriors up well once I'm finished. I bought an almost new 2012 truck in 2013/2014. I have yet to wash it (other than the occasional rain storm). It is garage keep and at this point, I'm afraid to wash off it's protective layer.  :-D
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on January 02, 2020, 11:27:04 AM
My plan for this car is to get it in drivable condition, not do a complete nut and bolt like my 77. If there are a few things not up to snuff, honestly I dont really care. That is not an excuse to do bad work (im too fastidious for that anyway, lol) but I am not trying to get caught up on every tiny detail.

Not so easily done when you have it all apart
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: RamblerRacer on January 02, 2020, 07:56:25 PM
Thanks for the pics Kerry

I have a pretty decent front cover from the 80 I stripped, but there is a guy around here with nothing and he is interested in it along with the metal parts that go behind it. The plastic support part was garbage.

I don't feel like committing the time to take the one on the car off, and think I can restore this one and save some time rather than spend it on the tail end putting it back together.

I will work on tweaking the fitment of the sides of the nose like suggested by FormTA above and that will be quite a bit of on and off but it will be worth it and probably work out OK.

I went back to my Cousin's shop (only .22 miles away) and gave the nose repairs another buzz and skim coat of the plastic repair material on the passenger side>>> and have a couple bottles of body repair fluid.

Take care guys

JT
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on January 24, 2020, 09:07:49 AM
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Not much going on, now that football is over I will be trying to get something done. Went to change the flat front tire, while it was off I decided to put new brakes on! Not much sense, the motor is in pieces but, I figure now is as good as time as any.
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New parts ready to put on.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on January 24, 2020, 09:15:09 AM
I was gonna clean up and try to do a caliper rebuild. The rebuild kits cost about $20, I would have to get a new blasting cabinet-$150- plus not knowing if the piston is good. New caliper was around $30. That was a no brainer for me. I priced the stuff at my local napa and for everything it was about $250. I found a kit at rock auto for less than $200. Includes for the front, new rotors, and calipers, and pads. I got new hoses from Right Stuff. They had 3 levels of brakes, stock, modified and performance. I contemplated getting the modified as the cost wasn't that much more. BUT they had painted red calipers which I did not want, and cross drilled rotors. My research has told me that these kind of upgrades aren't really necessary for what I anticipate my end use of this car will be. So I opted for the stock setup. When I get to the rears, I think I will have to do a rebuild though, not sure if the calipers are available.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on January 24, 2020, 09:20:09 AM
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Also got a box of parts from ames. Headlight mount that I gooched the first time around and I went ahead and paid the $30 for the bag of front end mounting hardware. Probably cost more than what a bag full of bolts should but the ones that came off are rusty and nasty. I started to clean them but they just dont look as good as new ones. And some gaskets so I can finally get the lenses off my desk and installed where they belong. Thanks again Luke!
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Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on January 24, 2020, 09:38:24 AM
Those lenses look nice from here!  I too have to order some gaskets for those so I can install mine. Looks like you are planning to get some work done. I haven't done anything to mine. I have to get going!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on January 24, 2020, 09:56:33 AM
Just about everyday when my grandson comes into my office he says "when you gonna put these lights in my car pops?" He has claimed the '79 as 'his car', which is ok with me. He usually comes out to the shop when I work on it to see whats going on and to help. Im glad he has shown some interest.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 24, 2020, 12:08:41 PM
Looking good Kerry. Probably a good choice not going with the slotted/drilled rotors. The ones at that price point tend to crack.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on January 25, 2020, 08:52:00 AM
That's what I read. I dont drive my 77 hard and I have he stock set up with the disc on front and still have drum rear. It works fine for my use. Figured the 79 wont be on the race track either.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on January 25, 2020, 08:53:22 AM
Not to mention brake parts were ordered before you texted me, and that was another $200 that could have gone towards a motor...:(
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on January 25, 2020, 08:54:05 AM
….that could have gone towards the motor.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on January 25, 2020, 01:31:21 PM
New parts are awesome!!

I get excited with shiny new parts!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on February 07, 2020, 04:25:25 PM
Driver side is pretty much finished, just a bit more touch up paint. I took a bunch of pics for some reason my flickr only works when it wants to, and apparently it doesn't want to at the moment. All the grime cleaned off, new rotor, new caliper, new pads, new brake line, dust shield straightened out and painted. Stub frame cleaned and painted.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: TATurbo on February 07, 2020, 05:13:50 PM
Looking good Kerry.  I think I learned that the best time to do stuff is when you can get the parts and have the time.  I had a relatively cohesive plan, but really most of the 'when' on my project was driven by budget. I think it was smart to do the brakes while you had the chance.

That 'front end hardware kit' looks like the one I got from Ames.  I was disappointed with the contents.  I took everything out of that bag and tried to match it up with all the hardware I bagged up when we disassembled the car.  The kit was good enough to get in the ball park, but I found it didn't match up well and I ended up re-using some fasteners because the 'kit' didn't include everything or maybe not the correct mix of sizes.  I probably don't need to tell you this, but hold on to the originals if you have 'em. 

The rear calipers were not available or difficult to find for a long time. But, a while back Ames started carrying reman'd ones.  That's what I used, PN FR218EB(LR), FR218ED(RR). They were $79.00.  I would say the quality was 'fair'.  I had to return the RR because I couldn't get the brake line to seal. There was a tiny defect in the mating service that was not visible with the naked eye.  I had to take a pic and super zoom in to figure it out.  But, they are 'Delco' parts and Ames took the return and replaced it no problem.   In the driving and testing I've done they function well.  It'll lock up all four corners in a 'panic stop' punch, but is easy to modulate and they have a decent feel.
 
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on February 08, 2020, 11:14:13 AM
Good Heads up.  I have all of the original fasteners, but figured for the price of the kit I would put in new. I will have to keep a good eye on things.
My plan is to get the front brakes finished then move on to the rears. I bought repair kits and that is my plan right now. I am hoping whats there will be rebuildable.
I know this car is a long way from needing brakes, but like you stated, that's a pretty cheap fix right now, plus something I have learned, even the little stuff adds up when doing a complete resto. When a big ticket item may be holding something up (my motor for example) that's a good time to get caught up with the details. Last winter I pretty much got the int. pieces ready to go. Once I get the drive line taken care of I will start on the interior.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on February 10, 2020, 08:37:19 AM
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HEY! I mustve had my tongue held the right way!! Flickr actually worked this morning. New setup on the dr. side. Started to take the booster off yesterday (just need to get inside and unhook the brake pedal) to send out for a restoration. I think removing the brake booster has to be just about the worse job there is on a second gen.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on February 10, 2020, 08:59:44 AM
Sure is! Right up there with the heater core. I cut up a nice ratchet wrench the second time I removed mine.

BTW, what paint are you using on the sub frame? That looks really smooth! Brush or can?
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on February 10, 2020, 12:37:16 PM
So, what I'm hearing is, that I should put the brake booster and assembly back on first before anything else gets bolted to the shell!!...got it!!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on February 10, 2020, 04:35:52 PM
In my experience, the brake booster should be in the shop then the rest of the car built around it!! First one I took off still had the motor in place, and the fender and inner fender on. That one about whipped my butt! I did learn that the less stuff around it the easier it is, and its still a pain in the A...….
Luke I will have to check on the paint, its a spray bomb undercoating/rust inhibitor/type thing. Wasn't what I thought I was getting but it seems to be doing ok.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 16, 2020, 07:00:12 AM
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Finally got back to getting something done. Got the firewall finished in paint. I just cleaned it up, quick wash down and hit with the spray bomb. Turned out nice, and it took minimal time. On my 77 I sanded everything down to bare metal, primed painted the whole nine yards. This time its a set it forget it kind of job. Not trying to compromise quality but in the end im sure this firewall will look just as good as the other one, and its at least as good as factory.(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49663435432_67b4714475_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iEA679)2020-03-15_03-18-57 (https://flic.kr/p/2iEA679) by Kerry Grubb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156399515@N07/), on Flickr
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Then I started this project. I was lucky to have another cover in the stash of parts and cleaned things up and painted.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: TATurbo on March 17, 2020, 10:22:31 PM
Firewall looks good.  In my opinion, unless you're going full custom,  a simple clean, paint, and tidying up is perfectly good. Especially if you'll be driving the car. 
Oy! That box! I hated that box and was happy to toss mine. (Probably too happy as it might've been useful to someone else.) Mine was cracked with a hole where your canyon sized opening is!  Good luck repairing that...(That sounded sarcastic but is meant to be sincere!).
Let me know if you need any of the duct work inside.  I still have all the AC Ducting packed up somewhere. I  haven't gotten around to selling it off yet.  It's on my list of things to do. 
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 18, 2020, 07:18:41 AM
I repaired the one in my 77 with fiberglass, it was pretty bad, but not quite as bad as this one. I hate to do it but believe this one will heading to the dump! Tom, I will look over my a/c parts (I think there is some missing), I may be hitting you up.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 30, 2020, 12:39:24 PM
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Got the a/c box finished. Bench tested motor and it ran fine. The 'red-stat' thingy was painted over and I wet sanded that with 1000g then hit with a coat of clear. All of the connections looked solid I assume it will work. I had to drill out the rivets to remove the metal bracket off the top of the case. I had some screws that I salvaged off a job years ago that have a smooth flat head that match the factory rivets to a 'T'. Got some more cleaning and painted to do at the firewall/frame before I mount this back in place. I know this shouldn't be black, I would imagine it was a natural greyish finish, but this looks better than what I started with.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 30, 2020, 01:37:52 PM
Nice work on the A/C box! Looks showroom.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 30, 2020, 01:45:11 PM
Thanks Ryan, I still need to get a new grommet for the heater hose and some insulation for the core lines, but I can do that anytime. My parts ordering is put on hold at the moment!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: sensei451 on March 30, 2020, 06:48:29 PM
That's the nicest a/c-box I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: sensei451 on March 30, 2020, 07:08:56 PM
By the way, as you've been working with the a/c box, is there a purpose of the "tab" that sticks out? I am asking because I had to cut mine off.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: TATurbo on March 30, 2020, 10:47:08 PM
I refuse to believe that that is the same box as the earlier pictures. No way!  Do you have any pics of you holding the 'in-progess' box restoration while holding a current news paper such that we can see the headline and date?
 :-P
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: 737driver on March 31, 2020, 01:02:41 AM
Great job on the AC box, really looks great! It’s really great to see refurbishing the original stuff.
Jim
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: DeVilliers on March 31, 2020, 03:17:56 AM
Wow! Are you sure it's the same AC box? Maybe you swapped it in your sleep?

Great job on fixing it up.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: FormTA on March 31, 2020, 05:41:26 AM
No pictures,  didn't really happen....

Looks brand new!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on March 31, 2020, 07:26:47 AM
I should clarify, the one side that was completely blown out was replaced with a spare I had. Previous owner had one in the pile of parts stash that came with the car. 
Sensei, if you are talking about the flat protrusion on the side away from the motor, I have no idea what its for. I had 2 spare halves, one had it built in (the one I used, as I could tell it was what was there), and 1 did not have it, it was flat across. I will post a pic of that one too. I dont see any advantage either way.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 08, 2020, 07:39:34 AM
Ive had the pass side wheel off way too long with the brake job. So yesterday evening was the day to do that. I had the dust shield restored, all of the frame painted and cleaned up and ready to go. Painted the new caliper, had the hose hooked up, all went well. THEN, I fought for 40 minutes trying to get the darn thing installed. One bolt would go the other would not. I took the shoes out and compared them to the old, everything look ok. Fight some more. The shoe against the piston was the problem. I took it off again, and filed the upper hook a bit but this didn't solve the problem. Finally I put the old shoe back on as it really wasn't bad, and things bolted right up in a matter of minutes. I will have to replace it at some point but for now I can at least move the car around again.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: MNBob on April 08, 2020, 12:39:49 PM
I haven't been keeping up around here, but your AC box is outstanding!  Excellent work.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 09, 2020, 11:01:40 AM
Thanks Bob, things are getting done, slowly but surely.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: rkellerjr on April 09, 2020, 05:38:57 PM
Coming along my friend.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 13, 2020, 11:56:16 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49769732826_2521658d8e_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iPYTBQ)2020-04-13_12-10-26 (https://flic.kr/p/2iPYTBQ) by Kerry Grubb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156399515@N07/), on Flickr
I wasn't planning on removing the core sup, was going to scuff and paint in place. I ended up taking it off, the bottom corner was bent up a little and I had another near perfect as a spare. So rather than fix I ended up sanding the spare down and painting it. This is the original.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 13, 2020, 11:58:18 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49769200193_2e07705bc4_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iPWahv)2020-04-13_12-10-47 (https://flic.kr/p/2iPWahv) by Kerry Grubb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156399515@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49769733341_b084a8188d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iPYTLH)2020-04-13_12-10-36 (https://flic.kr/p/2iPYTLH) by Kerry Grubb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156399515@N07/), on Flickr
Spare, cleaned up and painted. Looks like I have some free time this afternoon, gonna try to get it put back on. I did get the a/c box temp bolted back into place, both front rotors, and brakes are new now and sitting back on all fours.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Jack on April 13, 2020, 03:26:39 PM
I don't think I've seen one that shiny, good job Kerry, you've been busy.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 13, 2020, 05:15:36 PM
I am straying away from factory just a bit in all of the underhood black is going gloss. Got the core installed, bumper brackets put back on, misc. bits re-installed. I put all of the bolts and clips on the wire wheel and brought them back to life before rust. As typical, my phone died so pics will be in tomorrows first edition.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 14, 2020, 07:06:54 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49772577313_cbff6484a1_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iQetbH)2020-04-14_09-02-19 (https://flic.kr/p/2iQetbH) by Kerry Grubb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156399515@N07/), on Flickr
Heres an example of a bolt, before and after cleaning. I have a wire wheel on a bench grinder, carefully with a pair of pliers holding them, I run the bolts through for a few seconds and it cleans them up pretty nice. In the past I have sloshed them in rust remover then sprayed them silver, these look much better this way. I did all of the bolts and clips on the core support yesterday and it really makes a big difference in looks.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 14, 2020, 07:18:30 AM
Wow, those look brand new!
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 14, 2020, 03:52:45 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49773650827_62367c0a1c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iQjYiz)2020-04-14_10-10-17 (https://flic.kr/p/2iQjYiz) by Kerry Grubb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156399515@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49773321886_3a8b065598.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iQihwb)2020-04-14_10-10-08 (https://flic.kr/p/2iQihwb) by Kerry Grubb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156399515@N07/), o(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49773321886_3a8b065598.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iQihwb)2020-04-14_10-10-08 (https://flic.kr/p/2iQihwb) by Kerry Grubb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156399515@N07/), on Flickrn Flickr(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49773321366_5096731c3d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iQihnd)2020-04-14_10-10-00 (https://flic.kr/p/2iQihnd) by Kerry Grubb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156399515@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 14, 2020, 03:55:01 PM
Sorry for the double vision, user error, core support back on with new bushings, hood latch was rusted shut, let it soak for a couple of days, then cleaned it really good, wire wheel, lubed up and now it works like new.
What finish was on the hood pop up spring? This one almost seems like it is plastic coated, not paint.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: RamblerRacer on April 16, 2020, 08:02:20 AM
Nice work Roadking
Looks great

JT
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on April 17, 2020, 04:22:12 AM
Kerry,

Did you use a rattle can for the rad support or fill up a paint gun for all that black?
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: roadking77 on April 17, 2020, 06:31:38 AM
I used rattle can for the frame and all of the front end parts, for the core support i used some single stage black that i had leftover from my 77. It was put on with a my awaita spray gun. I used the same single stage gloss on the inner fenders as well. The under hood stuff should be a matte finish but i am using a bit of a custom touch and using gloss. I think it may look better. I almost went body colour, but that would have really been different. I like the way some of the old mopars look with a body coloured engine compartment.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: Nexus on April 17, 2020, 06:48:18 AM
Oh ok...cool

I too like the engine bay being the same as the body but I will being going all black with mine with a twist for the block and that will be body colour as per my sons request.
Title: Re: Roadkings TATA (4 speed)
Post by: jonathonar89 on April 17, 2020, 07:22:15 AM
I need to get/build a bench so I work on my little parts like you’re doing with the hardware.  I’m redoing my distributor on the trunk of my car right now ???????????

Good job with the engine bay progress!