TAC Spotlight => Projects & Restorations => Topic started by: ryeguy2006a on June 14, 2016, 09:10:35 AM

Title: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 14, 2016, 09:10:35 AM
I am starting a build thread to document the restoration and build of my 1968 Camaro I am calling, "Project Penny Pincher". The name came from my wife's idea when I was asking for help thinking of a project name. The end goal is for the car to be a deep copper color, while also keeping the car on a pretty tight project. I will give her full credit because hey, she's pretty creative.

Some of you may remember a few years back when I started a build here that documented my 1976 Trans Am while I was installing an LS1 and 6 speed. I sold it a few years ago to help offset some of my student loan debt. I don't regret paying down the debt, but I do really miss driving a cool car! During the restoration process I learned to have a tremendous amount of patience, but probably most crucial thing I learned was the importance of setting goals and sticking to them. I think that most people can appreciate being on a budget and my car will be the same way and will be done in stages. I am however, going to always be mindful of future upgrades and am not afraid to spend the money where it counts.
 
The end goal for this car will be an LSx powerplant with 6 speed manual transmission. I want the car to be a deep copper color, with subtle black accents. I also want the car to perform, and handle just like a newer sports car. Unless I can score a smoking deal on an aftermarket front sub-frame, I will be keeping the stocker with upgraded suspension, coilover's, solid body mounts, and etc. The car will likely never be a competitive road course car, but will see a lot of street time. I want it to be comfortable for my wife and my young son (11 1/2 months old). So yes, this car will be getting a "racing" infant seat.
 
This whole project started when I bought the car from my wife's grandfather who has had the car for around 10 years. It mostly just sat in a garage, with the exception of having a driver's side rocker panel and a pair of quarter skins installed. We negotiated a price, and I brought the car home on 12/12/15. And so my project begins. It is desperately in need of a restoration with some poor attempts at body panel replacement needing to be addressed. The biggest parts that need to be finished are all 4 floor pans, trunk pan, front and rear window channels and replacing the passenger side rocker panel. There are a few other small patches here and there, but overall it's a great foundation for what I am looking to build. Here are some of the pictures from the day I brought the car home.
 
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What's even more amazing is the car came with the original Protect-o-Plate!

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For those wondering, it is a plain Jane 6 cylinder originally. So my drivetrain will be a huge improvement!

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I am really hoping to have all of the rust repaired and the body in epoxy primer by the end of May 2016. May be a bit ambitious considering I am only working on the car a few hours a week, but I need to set goals for myself.


Thanks for looking,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 14, 2016, 09:19:02 AM
After having the car for a few weeks and assessed what I needed, I finally got to to work on these floor pans. If the car didn't come with the floor pans already I would have just sprung for a full floor pan from AMD, but since I already have the pans it just costs me time... It had been a while since I had done any welding, so I started with the easier of the 4 floor pans to get my feet wet again. Nothing overly complicated, just a ton of butt welding and grinding. When I first got the car the floor pans were basically set in and tacked, which was apparently how the car was driven for a while. Oh brother.

I took all of 5 minutes to cut off the tack welds and starting fitting it to the floors for the better repair.

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Those little clamps sure come in handy!

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Once it was ground smooth, I spread a little seam sealer for safe measure. Once I finish with all the floor pans I will cut out the plugs and replace with new.

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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on June 14, 2016, 04:44:15 PM
Keep at it. I can't wait to see how it transforms into something awesome!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 14, 2016, 06:00:18 PM
Thanks FormTA, I'm really looking forward to getting this car back on the road and putting some miles on it!

And in case anyone was wondering, I got pre-approval to put a non-TA in the projects section.  :cool:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 14, 2016, 06:02:45 PM
Once the driver's rear was done, I felt confident in my welding again and tackled the most difficult floor... the driver's side. At first it didn't look too bad, but once I started digging around with the sub-frame removed, it was much worse...

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Since the front sub-frame mounts were toast at the bottom, I decided to buy some reproduction parts and splice them into the solid parts of the body. Trying to keep as much of the original body as possible.

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This is the patch panel that came with the car. Since it was a one piece and the factory has two pieces where the toe board meets the floor I decided to cut it in half and splice together so it looked more original.

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Here is the damage that I found once I got the previous repairs removed. Somewhere along the way someone had brazed in some panels, that I removed. The brazed panels pre-dated the previous owner, and were done fairly well. Despite this fact, I didn't like the way it looked and cut it out. Here is the carnage.

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New torque box/body mount panel test fitted.

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And here it is burned in.

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And the toe board.

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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 14, 2016, 06:06:41 PM
Once the toe board and inner panels were repaired, I moved on to the floor pan. I didn't get any pictures as I was trimming the floor pan, but this is what happens your jig saw hits a can of primer, haha.

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After that excitement I moved onto finishing the floor pan install.

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And driver's side floor pan done!

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I started to list out some of the major tasks that I have to do, and will slowly cross them off of the list. Hopefully this will keep me on track.

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I also went with my dad last weekend and picked up this rotisserie for a steal. I'm going to put a fresh coat of paint on it and get the Camaro on it. I need to install the trunk pans and this will make it much easier to weld.

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That brings me to where I am currently. I am really hoping to push and get this body rust free and in epoxy primer by May 31st.

Thanks,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 14, 2016, 06:11:39 PM
This will be the drivetrain for this car. It is a 01 LQ4 6.0 from a 2500 Chevy pickup with around 130k miles. I got it with the intentions of rebuilding as it had an initial knock that would go away when driving. More on that later. I plan to build an engine run stand to make sure it's sound before I install it in the Camaro. Here it is when I got it.

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Stripped it down to what I will be using.

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The pictures make it look much worse, but there are no ridges or scoring. Everything seems tight and I am going to chance it and try and run it as is.

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And here it is today waiting for me to get further along with the build on my Camaro.

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I got a smoking deal on these Fbody accessories with under drive pulley and stainless bolt kit. $210 shipped!

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Had to drill the lower boss for the low mount alternator.

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Here is the accessories roughly mocked up.

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And here is the reason that I am leaning towards the engine being sound. This two piece flywheel may have been causing a little sound!

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And the transmission that I will be running is a 1998 Borg Warner T56, that was swapped out for a guy who was upgrading to a trans that will handle 1000 hp from his turbo LS!

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Just pulled the tail shaft to make sure everything looked ok. No shavings or anything that looked unusual.

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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 14, 2016, 06:13:22 PM
It's time to take this build to the next stage. My dad's buddy gave us a killer deal on this rotisserie, just needed a little paint. I'm hoping to build the mounts for it this weekend, and possibly get my car on it. The rotisserie will make welding on the car so much easier.

Before:

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During:

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After:

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The paint turned out ok, but there are a few runs. I'm not too concerned since it looks 10x's better than before. If anyone has any advice once my car is up on the rotisserie, they would be well received. The only experience I have with them is what I have read.

Thanks,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 14, 2016, 06:16:52 PM
I got a little more done on the floor pans/ front torque box this weekend.

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Don't pay attention to the rust around my work area, it will be addressed all at once. When the car gets on the rotisserie I am going to clean up and spray everything at once for a uniform look.

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I didn't get any pictures, but I have partially installed the toe board. I had some fitment issues at first, but got that all straightened out. Just need to finish up the spot welds and then I can get the pan installed.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 14, 2016, 06:18:39 PM
I was able to get into the garage yesterday to get some work done. The toe board on the passenger's side gave me a lot more trouble than I was hoping, as I kept burning through no matter what settings I put on my MIG welder... Anyway after I got the panel to a point where I was happy, I called it done. Primed and painted it.

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I ground down the really large high spots, but I am going to leave the welds for strength. I don't want to grind them smooth and end up with a weak spot.

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Here is the floor pan, that I have test fit and is very close to burning it to the body.

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That's it for today's update. I'm hoping to have the floor pans completely done within the next few weeks. I think that if I can keep up this pace, the car will have the rust completely repaired by May 31st.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 14, 2016, 06:20:41 PM
Quick mid-week update. Since it is a process for me to get out in the garage to fire up the welder and grinder, I thought I would start on some other items that have been bouncing around in my mind. After much research and great past experience with GM fuel pump assemblies, I decided that the best bet for my fuel system was to source a 5th Gen Fbody pump. They are much shorter than the 4th gen pumps(meaning that it will fit in a stock 1st gen tank), and can support well above 400 hp, and don't require any baffling, so for me that is a win-win-win! After talking with Carl at Vaporworx, I bought his kit to modify the stock assembly to run constant, vs. in stock form that would require a PWM.

So after searching around for my tank options and keeping my budget in mind, I have decided to modify my stock tank rather than the stamped Rick's tank that is all set up for the 5th Gen pump assembly. The tank that came in my car has been replaced somewhere along the line and is in very good condition rust wise. So the plan is for me to add a recessed panel into the front sump of the fuel tank, and add a factory style fuel pump mounting ring for OEM reliablity.

Here is what I am starting with. It is a 2011 SS Camaro Fuel pump assembly from a 53k mile car. I scored this on ebay for $59 bucks free shipping! Later, I will show how to modify the pump with the Vaporworx kit.

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With a little research and looking around at different tanks, I found that the tank from a '07 Colorado has the same exact mounting ring dimensions as my LS3 pump. After a quick trip to the pick-a-part, my sawzall make quick work to get this little guy out!

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After sketching out some dimensions and seeing what would work with this pump and the mounting ring, I had my game plan.

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I wanted to get the mounting ring as round as I could, so with some "engineering", I was able to come up with this method. I was using the inner circle as my template, and fixed my grinder into position. It worked great!

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Next up was getting the gasket surface as flat as I could. After giving this some more thought, I decided to use a similar method. I used my phone's level, and got the grinder perfectly level both side to side and front to back. I mounted it in place, and slowly worked the surface. Since I am going to use a Viton(r) gasket, it should take up some of the imperfections that this surface has. Overall, I was very pleased with the results from my makeshift methods... or whatever you want to call it.

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And the final result.

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For the final installation, it will have a Viton(R) gasket sealed up between it and the recessed panel I will be putting on my fuel tank. I will make a ring that will fit inside the tank that will bolt everything down.

That's all for now.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 14, 2016, 06:21:56 PM
Hopefully there isn't any bandwidth limit with all the pictures that I am adding.  :shock:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 14, 2016, 06:23:43 PM
In true "Penny Pincher" fashion, I was browsing craigslist and after negotiating, I picked up a LG G5-X3 cam, 853 LS1 heads, and Comp Cams springs for $250 bucks from a '99 Vette! They are in good condition, and should really wake up the 6.0! The cam is similar to the MS3 cam from Texas Speed. The actual cam specs are 234/242 .600 .610 on 112 LSA. Cam has some very slight oxidation, but it cleaned right up with an emery cloth. Here are some pictures.

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I'm hoping to sell the 853 heads and get some of my money back. The 317 heads that are on the LQ4 now flow the same as the 243 LS6 heads, but have a larger combustion chamber. Making the switch would be a step backwards.

Over the next few months I am going to be building an engine run stand, and I plan to verify that the 6.0 has a solid bottom-end before I start swapping cams. Should have an update on that over the next few months.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 14, 2016, 06:26:33 PM
Got some time in the garage last night. Finished up the Passenger's side install of the floor pan and got it painted up. The paint was still a little wet, so it will get even more flat once it's dry.

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Making progress and crossing things off of my list!

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Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 14, 2016, 06:38:12 PM
It's been a few weeks with little progress on the car. I haven been working to get the mounts made for the rotisserie. I decided to make my own mounts for the rear leaf springs for the rotisserie rather than purchasing them through the various other companies that sell them. Here is the car with the front end mounted to the rotisserie:

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Here is the rear mounts that I am working on. I would have finished, but ran out of MIG wire.

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Here is one of my better welds. Not perfect, but I have been working on the appearance of the welds as well as the quality.

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I also bought the materials for the recessed panel that I am making for the fuel pump and sending unit. I will be making a panel similar to the one that Rick's offers on their tanks. It may not look like much, but I think it will come together nicely when it's finished.

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All for now.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: mrbandit on June 20, 2016, 11:20:25 AM
You almost have a row of nickels there.  Keep at it Ryan, your work is always fun to see.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Chrisp1 on June 21, 2016, 08:32:45 AM
After talking with Carl at Vaporworx, I bought his kit to modify the stock assembly to run constant, vs. in stock form that would require a PWM.


Great work. Love what your doing.

We did something similar to the factory tank in our LS1 1969 Camaro. But we used a walbro pump and baffled the tank.  I like the idea of  the factory pump much better.  The walbro started howling in no time,  and we are currently about to replace it.
 I'm probably reading this wrong but are you saying the pump doesn't run constantly in the 2011?( It does in our factory LS1 powered Camaro and our e-rod LS3 78 T/A.)
What did you get from Carl at Vaporworx? We might be interested in doing the same thing. My thinking is the factory pump will be more reliable.

And how tall is the 2011 pump? (From bottom of the pump to bottom of the upper flange)  if I remember correctly, the 1st Gen tank is about 7 or 8 inches deep.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Chrisp1 on June 21, 2016, 08:44:42 AM
:)
 Just got an education on factory fuel control
https://www.vaporworx.com/documentation/vaporworx-pwm-fuel-controllers/
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 21, 2016, 11:31:10 AM
:)
 Just got an education on factory fuel control
https://www.vaporworx.com/documentation/vaporworx-pwm-fuel-controllers/

I see you found that site. That is exactly where I was going to point you. For those that may be wondering, the newer cars run on PWM (Pulse Width Modulation) which essentially turns the pump on and off in micro-seconds to regulate pressure rather than mechanical regulation. Basically there is a plug that is put into the stock fuel pump assembly and a 99-02 Fbody LS1 fuel rail regulator and it will regulate 58 psi. Pretty incredible that the GM parts can interchange like that, and even more incredible is that someone figured out how they can work together!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: scarebird on June 21, 2016, 01:26:34 PM
...We did something similar to the factory tank in our LS1 1969 Camaro. But we used a walbro pump and baffled the tank.  I like the idea of  the factory pump much better.  The walbro started howling in no time,  and we are currently about to replace it...

...And how tall is the 2011 pump? (From bottom of the pump to bottom of the upper flange)  if I remember correctly, the 1st Gen tank is about 7 or 8 inches deep.

I was wondering if that was a normal thing - now I know better.   I like this later Camaro pump idea too for my 71 Lemans when it gets it's eventual LS conversion.  I do not want to hear the damm pump whinging away like in the TA.

Ryan - you may want to keep an eye out for a cheap two post lift.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on June 21, 2016, 02:32:27 PM
Awesome progress so far, can't wait to see it finished!  I commend you for putting in a 6-speed, will be a lot of fun once it's done.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: EOD9339 on June 21, 2016, 02:53:16 PM
Great work. Am I insane to miss doing this kind of work?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Jack on June 21, 2016, 03:17:53 PM
Great work as usual, keep at it, I wish I had the time to finish my 72.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 22, 2016, 08:23:15 AM
...We did something similar to the factory tank in our LS1 1969 Camaro. But we used a walbro pump and baffled the tank.  I like the idea of  the factory pump much better.  The walbro started howling in no time,  and we are currently about to replace it...

...And how tall is the 2011 pump? (From bottom of the pump to bottom of the upper flange)  if I remember correctly, the 1st Gen tank is about 7 or 8 inches deep.

I was wondering if that was a normal thing - now I know better.   I like this later Camaro pump idea too for my 71 Lemans when it gets it's eventual LS conversion.  I do not want to hear the damm pump whinging away like in the TA.

Ryan - you may want to keep an eye out for a cheap two post lift.

Yeah, I don't think the howling is normal. Maybe some trash got in the pump..

As for the lift, I would love to have one, but I will likely be moving within the next 2 years for a bigger house, and that will be something I get in the new house.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 23, 2016, 11:48:36 AM
Well after a few weekends of working (only a few hours each weekend), I was finally able to get the mounts built and installed on the rotisserie. The body bolted up very nicely, and I was able to test out the rotation. I was debating whether or not to even put my car on it as I was mostly done with the welding on the floor pans, but what a difference it will make welding! I was very impressed with the ease of how it rotated with minimal effort. It is going to make welding on the bottom side of the car SO much easier. I am looking forward to getting back into the groove of burning in the floor pans for good!

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Now that the rear end is out and I can get the car in better light, I was pleasantly surprised with the condition of the rest of the under body. The only rust that I found additional (which I already knew about from crawling under the car) was the very end of the frame rails on the driver's side. I think it was mostly due to the trailer hitch that was mounted to the frame rails at some point during it's life. I bet it was a towing machine with that I6 haha.

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Just need to add this to the list of panels that I will need to replace. I hope to make more progress on the rust repair over the next few weeks.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 23, 2016, 11:49:09 AM
I didn't take any pictures of the passenger side rear floor pan as it is just the same as the others. I am 85% finished with it, just have to finish some grinding and smoothing out of my welds. I got side tracked and decided to see what was going on with this passenger side rocker panel. I know that the previous owner added some "homemade" panels, but didn't think that they would be made of a very thin tin. I was able to easily bend it by hand...

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How not to repair rocker panels 101
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 23, 2016, 11:49:54 AM
No updates for progress on the car this weekend. Instead, I went with my dad to Spring Carlisle like we do every year. I was able to score some nice pieces and negotiate some great prices. It was a nice break from welding and rust repair.

Here are some of the parts that I picked up.

Lightly used Right Stuff brake booster, with 1" bore master cylinder and brake clevis kit.

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And a picture to get an idea of how high it will tilt in relation to the firewall. I may opt for the DSE bracket with the lower angle. I also test fit the clutch bracket for the T56 hydraulics. It should all work together nicely.

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It is some forward thinking, but I found some of these Moser c-clip eliminator brackets at a vendor station, and it should be a good shim for the F-body LS1 rear brake swap.

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Universal fuel level sender for my tank project. Brand new.

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I had to buy them together, but got an LS6 valley cover and steam vent crossover. They look to be either new, or very lightly used.

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Lastly, I picked up some RS reverse lights, some 67 RS tail lights, and an extra pair of bezels. They aren't in perfect shape, but would be good enough to run. Especially if they are tinted, or blacked out.

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I know that some people will disagree that I shouldn't put the 67 tail lights on a 68, but I like the single 67 RS tail light look better than the double.

All for now. Hope to get some more repairs done in the next week.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 23, 2016, 11:50:53 AM
I am finally done with the floor pans, and as they say hind sight is 20/20. I definitely should have just opted for a full floor pan rather than messing around with butt welding 4 full floor pans. I would have been much further ahead time wise. Live and learn I suppose. Here is a shot of the floor with a quick coat of primer to prevent any surface rust in the short term. Eventually it will be stripped and coated.

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I got halfway done with stripping the floor pans of the undercoating and decided to change gears and work on the back half of the car. Next was to remove the trailer hitch mounts that someone very poorly welded to the frame. No surprise that upon removal I found more rust, but unfortunately it was a little more severe than I had originally anticipated. Shopping around for some replacement frame rail patches now.

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Once I got both sides removed, I moved on to poorly patched trunk pan. Same deal with the floor pans, they crudely cut out the rusted panels and simply trimmed the panel, lap welded a few spot welds and called it a day... it took me 15 mins to cut the whole panel out. A few of the "spot welds" weren't even attached to the car!

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Doesn't seem like a lot of progress, but I am glad to finally be done with the floor pans. I feel like I am now on the downside of the rust repairs.

All for now.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 23, 2016, 11:51:30 AM
No progress on the car this weekend, but I did get a lot of parts that I needed. Since discovering the rear frame rails needed some attention, I decided to wait to install the trunk pan until after the new rails are installed. I was scouring the internet, and came across an ad on eBay for a set of new/used frame rails. They are new and never installed, but have been sitting on a shelf for a long time. I picked the repair panels for $125 shipped. They should be here for next weekend.

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I have been looking for a solid 12 bolt, and got a call from a friend who was able to pick one up. Now it was just a matter of negotiating a price. He offered it to me at a price that I couldn't turn down, so I now have my complete drivetrain. The rear is complete, but has the lazy wheel 2.43 gear ratio. I will likely swap that out before the car is on the road again, but having a functional rear end is better than not.

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My dad recently upgraded to rear disk brakes on his 71 Chevelle, so he gave me the complete rear drums. I will eventually upgrade to the LS1 rear brakes, but until then, these will get me by.

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He also upgraded his exhaust, and was getting rid of that too. I know that it's for a Chevelle, but I will be getting an X-Pipe kit and will use the rest of the exhaust to run together.

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I did quite a bit of running around this weekend, but it's all for the greater good. I also realized that since I discovered the need for frame rail patches, that will delay my goal of a rust free shell by May 31st. I still think that I can have it all done early June, but time will tell.

Thanks for looking,

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 23, 2016, 11:52:39 AM
Another small update. I was able to get out in the garage for a few hours on both Friday and Saturday nights. No surprise, I found more rust. I decided that the best way to get to the rust around these braces, would be to remove the braces, patch the floor underneath, and then re-weld. It is time consuming, but much cheaper than replacement panels.

Here is the trunk after I cleaned up all of the welding slag from the previous bad repair.

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Before I can start refitting the trunk patch panel, I had to address these rust pockets under the bumper braces. I had to go through the time consuming process of drilling spot welds, and salvaging this brace so that I could re-use it.

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Maybe it was being sleep deprived or that I am just crazy, but after I drilled out these spot welds it kinda looks like the shape of Homer Simpson. Doh!

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I cleaned up the bracket, but realized that I should wait to weld these until after I install the sections of rear frame. So I moved, on.

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Here is the driver's side, with the same rust... I was a little more impatient with this side and got a little more excited with the air chisel.

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Now, I am no professional fabricator by any stretch of the imaginination, but I was pretty impressed with how I shapped the patch panels on both sides to replicate the original. I used only a ball peen hammer and a 1" piece of flat steel that I have on my bench. That pocket is needed as the bumper bracket dips down into that area.

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Just like the other side, I am just tacking the patch in place to wait for the replacement rails to be installed.

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The replacement frame rail sections should be here today, so that will be on my agenda for next weekend. is getting both of those replaced so that I can continue moving forward. Looks like with the recent discoveries of the additional trunk panel rust and frame rail sections, my May 31st deadline will be far exceeded. Maybe by the end of summer, I will have the body into epoxy primer.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 23, 2016, 11:54:26 AM
So for the next stage of this rust repair, I had to make some changes to my set-up. With the complexity of the rear frame rail repair, I didn't feel that the car would be best suited to stay on the rotisserie. I decided the best route would be to removed the rear rotisserie mounts, and prop up the rear of the car and support it on the solid parts of the frame rails. I wanted to get as close as I could to the solid portions of the frame, while also leaving some room for myself to work. I made sure to get the car as level as I possibly could, and I got it within .01 degrees.

It worked out great, now the hard part. Removing and replacing the rear frame rail sections...

I will take the picture later*

I didn't get any good pictures of what the frame rail looked like before, but here is the passenger's side for reference. The driver's side was in slightly better shape, but still Swiss cheese and needed replacing.

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Now, I have been somewhat intimidated by this next repair, as I have never done anything like this before. I have had a lot of time to think about it, and watched what others have done in the past. My first thought was making sure that I was starting with a car that was square and true. After searching around the internet, I came across several schematics of what the measurements should be for my car. I used these to carefully measure and verify that everything was square. I then used this as a guide for when I welded in the new pieces.

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My 4 1/2 grinder with cut off disks made quick work of this section of frame rail. To my surprise, it was even more rusted on the inside of the panel as well! I am now very glad that I took this step and replaced these rails. Here is what is left of the carnage.

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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 23, 2016, 11:55:18 AM

One of the best tips that I picked up on while researching the best methods for this repair, was people would drill out the factory spot welds all the way through the trunk floor. What that does is acts as a guide template for the replacement rail. It worked great, as I was within a 1/4 inch on the first trial fit.

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I only wanted to replace the sections that were bad, so that required cutting the rails in about half.

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Here is one of the intial panel fitments. It fit great, and only required minor trimming to fit correctly.

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The only real complaint I had about the panels was the rails were about 1/8" wider at the bottom than the factory rails. I bought them second hand on eBay so I am unsure of the brand. I also got them at half price, so I can't really complain either. After giving it some thought, I found a simple solution. I cut a small pie shaped section out of the bottom side rail and pinched it together. Once tacked with a spot weld, it fit just as it should.

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I didn't get pictures as I was busy working away, but I used a small section of the rails that I cut off and put plates on the inside of the rails so I had a good guide and also made the repair a little stonger. I plug welded the plates to the factory rail and the replacement piece. Sorry for the picture, I didn't have the flash on.

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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 23, 2016, 11:57:28 AM
Now that the frame rail was welded in, I could reinstall the rear bumper brace.

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The driver's side rail was done enough for now. Once I reinstall the rotisserie, I can roll it over on the side so that I can get a flat weld on the sides of the frame rail. It is so much easier to weld on a flat surface that on your back!

Moving on to the passenger's side. Again, didn't get any pictures of the before, but you get the idea. Here is the picture with the rusted rail removed. I used the same technique to drill out the factory spot welds and use them as a guide for re-installation.

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That was as far as I got this weekend. I was able to get out into the garage two nights as we had a long weekend with Memorial Day. With everything else in life being so busy, the only real time that I can sneak into the garage is after everyone else is sleeping. And when you are awake from 5am -9pm, then work in the garage from 9pm - 2am-ish, the next morning is rough when your toddler is waking you up at 5am. I can only do that once a week usually but with the long weekend I pushed for two days. Once the rust repairs are done it will be totally worth it. Until then, my weekends are fueled by coffee haha.

Thanks,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 23, 2016, 11:58:20 AM
Not as much progress as last week, but still progressing forward. I finished the frame rails and am now working on installing the trunk

Here is what I didn't get a picture of when I installed the other rail. I added a reinforcement plate to the inside of the frame rail and plug welded on both pieces of the rails as well as butt welded it down the center. It helped tremendously on lining up the rails as well. They both fit in there very nicely, with minimal trimming. Very pleased with the install.

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Shots of the rail being installed.

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And the rail finished up. I still need to smooth out the side of the rail with a flap disk, but otherwise it is a very clean install. Very pleased with it and it has stiffened up the rear of the car more than I expected. Now that it's done, I am glad that I opted to replace rather than patch. As long as you take your time, the job really wasn't too bad, just a lot of measuring to make sure the fitment is spot on. My measurements were dead on both sides when I was done according to the diagrams I had.

I starting fitment on the trunk pan next. I am getting the hang of marking and trimming these panels now, so I am getting much quicker. You can see that I drilled out all of the holes for the braces to be spot welded to the fuel tank support rails. It was tedious, but well worth a quality repair.

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And this is as far as I got at 2:30am.

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Luckily our baby slept in until almost 7am, so that was a much better sleep than I was anticipating. He's usually up by 5am. All for now.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 23, 2016, 11:59:31 AM
Late update, but I was able to get into the garage for a few hours Friday night. Made more progress on getting the trunk installed. After all of the welding that I have done on this car, I am really starting to get a hang for getting the butt welds just the way that I want them with minimal grinding. Here are a few pictures.

I was able to get the replacement panel plug welded to the fuel tank supports.

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Starting on one side and working my way to the other.

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I couldn't help it, I had go break out the flap disk and see what it looked like. I was very happy with how smooth and almost invisible the repair appears! Very happy with my progress.

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Here are some picture of the 90MM LS2 throttlebody. It is in really good condition and I got a great deal. Thanks Pro-Touring.com!!

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I keep plugging away at the welding, and slowly keep purchasing parts that I am going to need in the future. Hopefully, I will intersect at a point in the not too distant future where I am finished with the rust repairs, and all of the parts I need to get the drivetrain installed.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 23, 2016, 12:00:17 PM
Not much to show, other than lots of welding. I was able to get another good section of the welding done, and am finally nearing the end of this fun.

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I cut the rear section of the trunk pan a little too short, so I have to add a small section across the back side to fill it in. 

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7395/27762254136_ebdcec4c55_b.jpg).

I am going to get all of the welding done, then go through and grind it all flush. I was able to get a few more items crossed off the list of things To-Do. I am waiting to get all of the welding done before I make a new list.

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Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 23, 2016, 12:01:30 PM
Just picked up a TBSS intake manifold to match my 90MM LS2 Throttlebody. After a little research, and looking at a real world test that Hot Rod Magazine put out, they were showing that the TBSS intake made all around more power than even the LS6 intake! Which makes it the best performing factory cathedral port intake! Not too bad for $40 shipped!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 23, 2016, 12:03:00 PM
My wife and baby went to sleep a little early last night, so I was able to sneak out and get 4 solid hours of welding time. I was able to burn everything in and the trunk is now finally welded up! I'm very relieved to have that hurdle behind me. I am also seeing a lot of grinding in my future, as I need to knock down all those welds. I will also need to flip it on it's side and make the panels look good from the bottom as well.

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And all finished. Well kinda, still need to do lots of grinding.

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After the trunk is finished, the next big panel is going to be the passenger side rocker panel. After that all of the other panels that I need to touch will be smaller patches. I'm definitely on the downhill side of the rust repairs and I am very glad about that.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 23, 2016, 12:05:29 PM
Well that was the last post that brings me up to present day. Lots of work has gotten the car to this point, but I am on the downhill side of the rust repairs and I am looking forward to being finished.  8-)
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 27, 2016, 06:27:35 AM
Finally after a few weeks of working on this trunk it is finished! I was pretty happy with the results. It isn't perfect, but I'm pretty pleased overall. It's nice to close the trunk and now be done with that project! I will seam seal the repair from the underside, so that it keeps the trunk looking clean. Once the car has been primed/painted, I will go back and finish it with the splatter paint.

Here are some pictures finishing it up.

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And all painted up.

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Another thing that I didn't mention before, was prior to any welding and in the fitment phase I made sure that my filler neck fit correctly. While the paint was still drying I threw that on there to make sure it was still fitting correctly. Couldn't fit any better.

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It has been great hitting these milestones by finishing small sections of the car rather than viewing it as one big project. My next section I will be working on is the passenger side rocker panel. That is the last large section of panel replacement that I need to do. Once that is complete, I will only have small sections to repair which should hopefully not take as much time. That's all for now.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on June 27, 2016, 10:56:13 AM
Wow! Lots of work done so far. Looks great! My wife has put me an many projects this summer so my LS swap has come to a stand still... What are your plans as far as tuning? Do you know someone or are you good with HP tuners?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 27, 2016, 11:16:54 AM
Thanks man. I'm not progressing as quickly as I was hoping initially, but quick enough. I feel your pain. My wife keeps me very busy as well. My Saturday's and most Sunday's are yard work, home improvements, and etc. My garage time is Friday night from 9ish to 2am. I am constantly running through my head of what I am going to do and how I am going to do it. I try to maximize my time as it is very limited.

As for tuning, I have HP Tuners and plan to use one of a few ECU's that I have accumulated. I will do all the tuning myself, and on the "street Dyno" as my friends and I joke haha. I am going to get the car running really good on the stock cam and eventually swap in the aftermarket cam I have. But as you can see that is a ways down the road. I also will be building an engine run stand so that I can test and tune outside of the car.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on June 27, 2016, 04:52:40 PM
Really cool you can tune. I wish I knew more about tuning. I'm more of a mechanical, welding, body work kind of guy... I have a 67 RS project as well, really like the lines of the first gen. Cool project. Keep at it, I'll follow along.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 28, 2016, 05:49:56 AM
I got my TBSS intake today. I hit it with the power washer really quick and it cleaned up really nicely!

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90mm opening

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And here it is with the LS2 TB, I may not be keeping this due to the complexities of tuning and hunting down the right parts.

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It also came with the stainless steel returnless fuel rail.

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The rail fits my stock truck injectors perfectly!

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Overall not too bad considering I paid $40 bucks shipped to my front door, and it will give me overall better performance than the LS6 intake!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: DeCaff2007 on June 28, 2016, 07:45:36 AM
Man... I wish I had your welding skills.  Nice work!  Keep at it and keep us posted.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on June 28, 2016, 01:33:18 PM
Indeed, very good job welding.  Won't be able to tell anything was ever replaced with the trunk splatter applied.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 29, 2016, 09:21:49 AM
Thanks for all of the compliments guys. It has taken a lot of work to get the car this far and I am looking forward to getting the car back on all fours.

On a side note, I just picked up a 5.3 w/ Z06 cam that a buddy had for $500 bucks that only has about 10k miles on it. It's a reman engine, and comes with the harness, ECU, and everything seen in the picture. The catch is that it has a little block damage from when the TKO let go and the harness has some cut wires. Both dowel pins are intact, and would only be missing one bell housing bolt. The motor doesn't leak, and runs perfect, so I am going to take a chance. Since the 6.0 that I have is going to need some work, I am going to use this motor instead. I am still building the engine run stand so I will know the motor runs prior to putting it in my car anyway.

Worst case scenario, at the price that I got it for I can make my money back if I part it out.

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Thanks,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: silver78 on June 29, 2016, 06:31:16 PM
Nice score, I don't think you can get hurt on that deal if you have to unload it.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on June 30, 2016, 04:56:44 AM
Ah, you don't want to mess with that. All sorts of things could go bad. It could spontaneously explode leaving behind a pile of ashes that used to be your dreams. Just give it to me and I will save you all of you potential frustration.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 30, 2016, 09:15:21 AM
Ah, you don't want to mess with that. All sorts of things could go bad. It could spontaneously explode leaving behind a pile of ashes that used to be your dreams. Just give it to me and I will save you all of you potential frustration.

Yeah, you are right it's yours...haha

The coolest part is I can get away with using the 327 badges with the 5.3 engine!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on July 02, 2016, 08:49:56 PM
I picked up my new engine yesterday and got it home to do a little more inspection on the motor and all that it came with. It already had a lot of good parts on it, and it is definitely a newer motor. It is hard to say because you cannot always believe what people tell you about used parts. Upon further inspection, I feel good that what they said was true. Once I got the intake off the cylinder heads look almost new! They will need some clean up, but otherwise I am going to run it as is. The only things that will be upgraded will be the Holley 302-2 pan, Z06 valve springs and adjusting/checking the tune.

Here's the motor on the stand.

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Here's the ECU and Harness. I knew that the harness was damaged when the bellhousing let loose. Here's the harness and the damage. Once I break out my soldering iron and pinouts, it will make quick work of this.

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Check out how clean the engine is without the intake!

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And I threw on the TBSS intake for fun.

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After I got done playing with my new toy, I realized that I need to get the shell finished before I can worry about an engine. I have been putting off stripping under carriage for a while, but now is time. I stripped off about 10lbs of undercoating and it looks much better! I ground down the welding marks from the trunk repair as well.

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I looked down at my hand while I was grinding with the wire wheel. Lots of rubber there.

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And that's where I left for the day. I flipped the car around 180* and then spun the car 180* to get the back side. Once I was satisfied, I sprayed on a little primer and flat paint. Turned out really nice. I am very pleased so far.

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Overall, very pleased with the progress yesterday. Still not done with the bottom, as I will be finishing if off with some form of rubberized undercoating. It was a lot of work and I did contemplate leaving the undercoating that was on there, but wasn't sure if there was more rust hiding. I am happy to report that I didn't run into any surprises.

One last thing, is the LS1 intake that I got didn't come with the MAP sensor housing. If anyone has one I need one, and apparently they don't sell those separate from the intakes.

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Thanks for looking and Happy 4th of July.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on July 02, 2016, 11:01:04 PM
I much rather remove undercoating than rust. :P
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on July 07, 2016, 06:21:06 AM
I will definitely agree with that!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on July 11, 2016, 11:07:43 AM
Now, the very curious thing that I was reading is that some people are using the stock truck cams and re-grinding them using a smaller base circle, but using the stock Z06 or larger cam specs. So, my first thought was to check the tune that is on the ECU that came with the engine to see what the VE tables looked like. Before I could read the tune from the 5.3, I had to get my wiring harness hooked up so that I could read the tune. I bought a few parts a while ago to build myself a bench top wiring harness so that I could flash and read Gen III computers without being hooked to a car and a full wiring harness.

This was the perfect motivation to finally build this. You can also see in the pictures, I am slowly repairing the damaged harness.

What I started with.

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And the final product. I think I am going to add some gator clamps to the ground and 12+ as well as an "ignition switch" to make the harness more functional.

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And here it is reading the ECU! Works like a charm.

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Upon checking that and used the comparison charts on my HP Tuners program, I noticed that the VE tables showed a nearly identical table to the stock 02 Z06. My last step is going to check to see what pushrods are in the motor. If it is a re-ground cam, then the pushrods would have to be longer since the base circle of the lobes have changed. Or at least that should be the case.

So to change gears, here is some more of the rust repairs that I did on the Camaro. I decided the next part I wanted to tackle was the rear window channel. It was much worse than I originally thought at first glance. Someone had filled in the holes with bondo... After 3 minutes with the wire wheel that became very clear. I knew that I was going to have to make a few patches, but didn't expect that.

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I made a call to my wife's grandpa "Pa" who I bought the car from to see if I could borrow his metal shrinker/stretcher. And after using it once I am so glad I did. That is exactly the right tool for the job.

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You can see in this picture, I took several measurements to make sure that the window channel was the same width as the original piece.

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And all finished.

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Here is the rest of the window channel that is even worse...

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I was hoping originally to do the whole thing in one piece, but I was afraid that the panel would warp if it was that loose. I am going to try and get it done with either 3 or 4 pieces.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: lions bird on July 11, 2016, 02:57:34 PM
Its always a pleasure to check up on your builds. Great job as always
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: silver78 on July 11, 2016, 03:00:24 PM
Looking good, small bites at a time is the way to go.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: T A Troy on July 11, 2016, 04:38:00 PM
It all takes time but really pays off in the end, also piece of mind knowing it was repaired correctly to go along with all the hard work. Great work don't give up some times it looks like it will never end but you will get there.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on July 12, 2016, 08:39:04 AM
Thanks for all of the compliments.  8)
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on July 14, 2016, 07:45:36 AM
Thanks for the compliment! I'm working to get the shell back into primer and rust free. Then shortly after back to a roller. :cool:

Quick mid-week update. I was feeling ambitious and decided to go out to the garage last night. Another 5 hour stretch and hitting the bed at 2AM for me... I am nearing the end of the rust repairs and that has been keeping me motivated. The lower window channel is now fully welded and ground. I do have one small 3" patch on the driver's side C Pillar. I should be able to knock that out on Friday night, and move to other things. I will probably do the front window channel next. I was busy working and only got two pictures.

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Not much to show. Just weld it on and grind it off...

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: duffinatur on July 14, 2016, 06:01:16 PM
Lookin good, Ryan.  You've definitely taken on a more expansive project. Keep on posting, I'm following along
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: fixitrht on July 15, 2016, 06:04:04 AM
To be honest, I cant keep up with you kid!
Your once again doing great work. I'm just getting around to the LS project of my own, think Ill start a thread and compete for the finish line. Maybe you can keep me motivated
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on July 18, 2016, 10:29:57 AM
Another update from the weekend. I am now finished with the rear window channel. It turned out pretty good and ended up leaving some of the spots that were solid. I need to purchase some of those repair studs for the window trim, then it will be totally finished.

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Moving on I started to assess what was the next challenge I wanted to take on. I never put on the fender when the car when I first got it, so I wanted to see how it fit. Also, wanted to get a little more motivation. I know it will be done eventually, but I really wanted to see what that fender looked like on the car!

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The main reason that I wanted to throw on the fender is to see how the rocker will line up with the fender. Unfortunately, this is what it looks like. I'm not sure exactly how to fix this as the rocker panel is 80% welded at this point. I'm having a buddy stop by this week, but feel free to chime in if you have any suggestions.

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And the curious creature that I am, I decided to wire wheel the dash board as I think that is the next item I plan to attack. I shouldn't be surprised at this point, but some of those little pin holes turned into this!

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Overall the panel isn't that bad, but I am at a tipping point between fixing the original panel, or getting a replacement panel and replacing the whole upper dash. I have heard mixed reviews on replacing the upper board. Some say is works great, others say they turn out terrible.

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Another productive weekend, and I am that much closer to making some sanding dust! Although, then I am going to be in paint jail...

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: fixitrht on July 18, 2016, 01:05:48 PM
that's it, im posting . Look out for "A race to the finish" post shortly
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on July 18, 2016, 04:05:33 PM
I replaced the upper dash but mine was much worse than yours. If that is the extent of the damage you may just go with spraying it with epoxy and and fill it. Or, cut out the rot and do as you did on the rear window. Three levels of repair. Just depends on how much time you want to spend. All of the repairs will probably out last your ownership. Personally would try to weld them up first and see how it goes. I can weld some seriously thin metal. The problem is you will still have thin metal. But hay, this isn't a winter car. The rocker is another story that will take a lot of mud to build up and the door will never align 100%. Only two options I see are to fill with mud 50% of the difference and blend it half way back to the quarter. You will have a fender a bit out of alignment and a door a bit off at the bottom. Personally I'd grind or drill out the upper tack welds and try to get it closer or just rip it off and start over. Again, depends how picky you are with fit and finish.

May give a little on the front window chanel so you can spend more time on the rocker. The area that is actually visible.

Your call.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: fixitrht on July 18, 2016, 06:08:19 PM
Hang the door and match to the quarter. See where the issue is, these cars were never perfect. That said I got picky and cut along the length of my rocker and put a sliver of nothing to 1/4 inch wide.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on July 19, 2016, 05:59:39 AM
that's it, im posting . Look out for "A race to the finish" post shortly
I'm still a long way from the finish-line, but trying to make steady progress to get the car back on the road. Progress will slow down soon as I am going to have shoulder surgery in October, and we put an offer on a new house yesterday.

I think my best plan of action is to wait on the rocker panel fitment and see how everything hangs when the frame is back under the car. I am holding off on the passenger rocker replacement for that reason as well.

Over the next month or so, I plan to:
At this point, I feel that getting the frame painted and assembled is more important than the rear as they are easier to remove/replace. If I can get that all done, I can simply bolt one of the three rear end's I have under the car and it will be a rolling chassis again. That will be perfect if our offer is accepted within the next few weeks. Since money is tight with the possible closing in our future, I am doing anything that I can that is "free" or close to it.

All for now,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: T A Troy on July 19, 2016, 07:18:42 AM
I would also hang the door and see how it fits. Then maybe just notch the mounting point on the fender at the bottom a little deeper and solve the alignment problem that away. It may give you the clearance you need to just push the bottom rear of the fender in to match the rocker if the door will align nice. Maybe faster than cutting the rocker in the front loose again and adding metal to it. But either way I know with your work you will want to do whatever it takes to make it fit correctly.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on July 20, 2016, 07:07:24 AM
Thanks Troy, I appreciate it. I have been working my tail off to get this car back in shape. I have decided to wait until the car is back on all four wheels to finalize the rocker panels. That way I can get doors and a fender on it with the full weight of the car.

Also, thanks F-body Int'l. He hooked me up with a set of PTFB solid body mounts for my Camaro for a great price! That is the last piece that I "need" to actually get the frame bolted back under the Camaro.

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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: F-Body International on July 20, 2016, 09:29:48 PM

Also, thanks F-body Int'l. He hooked me up with a set of PTFB solid body mounts for my Camaro for a great price! That is the last piece that I "need" to actually get the frame bolted back under the Camaro.


Thanks ryeguy2006a!  We also have to thank Dave (79T/A man) at Pro-Touring F-Body on this one.  He supplied you brand new washers for the body mounts.  He's currently doing some major work on my subframe and helping me with shipping the parts I'm selling on the forum while my stuff is in his shop for upgrades. 

Like I said, give Pro-Touring F-Body a call sometime and get some information on 1st gen rear sway bars.  Dave is working on putting together a setup rather soon.  PTFB fits the bill on this forum thread if you're looking for a high performance suspension while penny pinching. 
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on July 31, 2016, 07:29:16 PM
After some much needed vacation with the family, I have a few updates. I needed to get the car and the garage prepped for the next stage of the build. I spent the good part of my time in the garage just cleaning tools and putting them away. After I got that all done, I wanted to clean this shell as it has been through a lot of work over the past few months. I was so busy, I didn't take pictures when the car was outside. Here are some when I finished with the body and the frame.

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And I thought I would post this as it will likely get sanded off or covered up at some point. Here is some of the original paint in it's glossy and patina glory.

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Now that I prepped everything, I am finally to a point that I wanted to spray on the final layer on the bottom of the car. After seeing the results from my buddies car, I decided on some some of the spray on bed liner for the bottom of the car. I am super happy with the results. I decided on the bedliner for basically three reasons; 1) I wanted to have something that would be easy to touch up, and being in a rattle can it doesn't get much easier 2) I wanted something that would be durable to rocks and road debris and 3) I wanted something that wouldn't break the bank. I love the way it turned out.

Here are the materials that I purchased to begin with.

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I did a test patch a few days ago, and I wasn't fully happy with the results as it had a shimmer to it, but while it was dry, I sprayed with a cheap flat black paint so that it would fuse together, but keep the texture. It's not fully dry, but I love the way it turned out.

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After I was done with the bottom and waiting for it to dry, I seam sealed all the panels that I replaced and topped it off with some flat black paint to give it all a consistent look.

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I'm thrilled with my progress so far. I need to touch up a few places, but then it will be ready for the sub-frame. I need to prep, clean and paint the sub-frame and it will be ready to be bolted back together. I can't wait for that day!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on July 31, 2016, 07:30:51 PM
And this is probably my most exciting update is the motor that I just picked up. I wasn't looking for a new motor, but I was texting a guy who I had bought parts from before, to see if he had another intake.  He didn't have an intake, but instead he mentioned that he was moving out of town and the motor he built was for sale. It's a '99 C5 Corvette LS1 with all new internals with the only used parts are the block and lifter trays. It has a brand new crank, forged Eagle H-beam rods, and Mahl forged pistons. To top off the shortblock it has World Products Warhawk 235 heads with stainless valves, double valve springs, comp push rods, new lifters, stock rockers with trunion upgrade. It also came with the custom spec'd T-rex V2 cam by Thunder racing with double row timing chain, melling high volume oil pump and all new plugs and wires. To top it all off, the motor has ARP bolts throughout the entire engine! Very excited about this score!

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Here's the cam card for the engine. The guy I bought it from said that the T-Rex cam was no longer available so he had the cam custom ground by comp with the exact same specs as the T-Rex V2 cam.

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In case anyone is running the Holley mounts for first gen fbody or xbody, here is the engine mount with the low mount 4th gen fbody alternator. First picture is with the stock 4th gen alternator, and the second is with the stock truck alternator.

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I'm super excited as I feel like this motor will be taking my build to a higher level.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on July 31, 2016, 10:06:11 PM
I love the original colour, looks like a nice metallic teal.  I'm sorry if you mentioned somewhere before but what colour are you planning on spraying it?  Also nice score on the motor.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 01, 2016, 06:31:52 AM
Originally when I started this build I was planning on a dark copper, which is part of the Penny in my project name. However I recently have been looking at cars that have a reproduce patina. I really like the way that the aged paint looks and it looks even more killer with a pro-touring look.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 04, 2016, 11:01:12 AM
Quick update, I cleaned up and painted the sub-frame. Nothing special, but the I painted the sub-frame with a Rustoleum rust converting paint, and while it was still drying, I topped it off with a flat black rattle can. It gave it a nice satin black, that is very stock appearing.

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While I was wiring wheeling the frame, I was hit.

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And the frame all painted from last night. Pretty simple compared to the rust repairs I have been doing.

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And these are the pictures I took this morning.

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I am going to wait for a few days for this to fully cure before I do anything further with it. I have a few small patches that need to be fixed on the lower cowl, on the shell, but I wanted to make sure that the frame had enough time to fully cure.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: scarebird on August 04, 2016, 01:06:20 PM
...While I was wiring wheeling the frame, I was hit.

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Cheers,
Ryan

75 scoots to have some other guy spend an hour sandblasting mine while I have lunch is worth every penny here.

You are current on tetanus, correct?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on August 04, 2016, 06:45:34 PM
I got pierced 4 times like that yesterday wire wheeling my rear sway bar. It was 90 + so I had on a T shirt. I got two in the arm and two in the leg, which went through jeans...

Looking good. Those front drums will give you a great feel on the road with the LS power. ????
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Bale9 on August 04, 2016, 07:12:21 PM
Great read... Really good that you can do all that body work yourself.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 04, 2016, 08:59:24 PM
Looking good. Those front drums will give you a great feel on the road with the LS power. ????

I figured someone would point that out... I'm not sure exactly what I want to do at this point. I know that as the funds allow, I am going to get the C5 front brake kit from CPP, but that also would require 17" wheels and tires. So at this point I am going to get creative. What I am hoping to do is find a 98+ 4th gen car that I can get for cheap, and rob the four wheel disk brakes and wheels and tires. Then scrap the car and hopefully get all or most of my money back. I also need a set of cooling fans and that would make a great donor for that as well.

If that right deal doesn't surface, I am going to just rock the 4 wheel drums with the new power booster that I have and see what happens. If it's really that bad, I will at minimum do the LS1 fbody front brakes as I believe they will fit under most 15" rims. But time will tell.

Plus for now, I will still be using the 5.3 engine as it is a good known running engine. I will need to put some good money into the LS1 before I can swap that into the car.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: scarebird on August 04, 2016, 10:38:52 PM
...I am going to get the C5 front brake kit from CPP...

mnnh.  I would ask HWYSTR455 on PY about how that shook out.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on August 05, 2016, 06:00:53 AM
You can swap the 69 brakes on for cheep as a starting point.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 08, 2016, 08:19:24 AM
You can swap the 69 brakes on for cheep as a starting point.

Yeah I actually have a buddy who said that I could buy his spindles/rotors/calipers for my car for cheap. I'm still not sure what I want to do. I am also thinking that possibly the LS1 front brake conversion may be an option. I need to confirm whether or not they would fit under a 15" Rally wheel.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 08, 2016, 09:08:30 AM
I finished the last of the repairs that require the rotisserie this weekend. I am so happy that I was able to get my car on one of these as it made the metal work SO much easier. Being able to rotate the body to the exact position you needed made the repairs so much easier. I have two small patches left in the lower cowl that I need to address, but both will be easy enough to get to without the body being on the rotisserie.

The last patch that I needed to make (on the rotisseriswas on the lower trunk drop. Since I am on a tight budget, rather than buying a new replacement panel I opted to build my own patches. I was pleasantly surprised with the outcome. It isn't perfect, but I really like how it turned out. I was originally going to leave the panel as is and just replace a small patch, but after a little digging I found 4 layers of terrible in this order: 1. the new quarter skin, 2. original quarter panel, 3. body filler and 4. the rusted trunk drop. So I just cut the whole mess out and replaced it with new metal.

Before:

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After:

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I didn't get another picture, but I sprayed it over with the bedliner when I was done.

Here is the body off of the rotisserie waiting to mate back up with the freshly painted frame and solid body bushings! I can't wait to start putting parts back on the car!

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Ready for the next project, hopefully with less rust the next time...

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All for now,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: F-Body International on August 08, 2016, 09:20:22 AM
You can swap the 69 brakes on for cheep as a starting point.

Yeah I actually have a buddy who said that I could buy his spindles/rotors/calipers for my car for cheap. I'm still not sure what I want to do. I am also thinking that possibly the LS1 front brake conversion may be an option. I need to confirm whether or not they would fit under a 15" Rally wheel.

Give PTFB Dave a call to see what you can do.  He'll give you the most bang for your buck option for spindle choice.  Just tell him what parts you're looking at.  I think the biggest benefit for swapping spindles is mainly geometry improvements on 1st Gen.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on August 08, 2016, 02:34:05 PM
First thing I did before I started working on my car was to build a rotisserie. I was so happy to finally get the car on it, then after about 2 months I was done with it. Def worth the effort to have one but in the total timeline I did not use it long at all. It was a great feeling to get the car on it and a better feeling to get it off and the frame mounted back. Your work is coming along great.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 09, 2016, 01:09:10 PM
The rotisserie was invaluable to this project. I would easily still be working on the metal fabrication without that tool. I have gotten a good feel for how the metal reacts when welding and this has also helped to shorten the time cleaning up the welds with the grinder too. I'm a little behind schedule, but I'm hoping that by the end of the month the car will be back into roller status.

I'm up in the air as far as what rear to run in my car. I have a stock 8.2 10 bolt rear that has a 3.08 open diff that will be probably the bare minimum gear that I could run with the 6 speed. I also have the date correct 12 bolt which will be what the car ends up with, but someone swapped out the gears and it has an open diff 2.73 rear gear... With everything else that needs money on this project, I just don't have the funds at the moment to build the rear as I want to. I'm going to keep my eyes peeled on CL for some good used 4.10 gears and posi. If I can score that in the next few weeks I will put that together and run the 12 bolt. Time will tell.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: F-Body International on August 09, 2016, 01:22:49 PM
I wouldn't mess with used gears Ryan.  They're not that expensive for brand new. Maybe swap the carrier but shimming used gears correctly is supposed to be very hard.  Either way, keep us posted as you progress.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 12, 2016, 08:55:43 AM
I was able to get a few hours out in the garage, and I was determined to put that motor in my frame. I bought this mounting kit soon after I bought the car, and I have been very anxious to see how they fit. I bought the Hooker engine mounts this time, as they made a kit specifically for the first gen f-bodies. It cost a little more, but what a well engineered kit. I struggled a great deal finding the right spot to put my LS1 with the motor mounts I used on my 1976 T/A. The mounts come with plates that convert the mounts over to the later model clam-shell engine mounts. It only required that I drill 2 holes, one on each side. It took me in the neighborhood of 5 mins each side to drill the hole and bolt the mounts down.

Here is the mount plate attached after I drilled the hole.

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Labeled for those curious: Blue are the existing frame holes, Red is the one hole that was needed to drill, and Green are threaded holes for the new mounts

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Here they both are attached. Note that the plates have notches that are designed that way to clear the headers.

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Here is the motor and trans ready to be mounted together for the first time!

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Now if you remember, the 5.3 had the lower driver side flange broken off due to the previous transmission failure. The dowel pin locator was still in place, and I got lucky that the transmission actually had both dowel pins in it. (they must have pulled out of the previous motor it was attached to) So I left the passenger side, and it fit together perfectly.

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Fits just like it should. Very happy I went with the Hooker/Holley Mounts.

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Here is the clearance with a truck pan for anyone interested. It does clear all of the rear steer linkages, but hangs down by only 3-4" haha

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Little too low for my liking...

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Now, there really isn't a lot of information out there on what stock manifolds may or may not fit with these mounts. I had a set of 01-02 Fbody manifolds laying on my parts shelf, ant thought I would give them a try. They fit surprisingly well, but I don't have the steering box on there yet so there could be a problem with the driver side. Passenger side fits with no problems clearing everything by 1/2". If they fit or will fit with a little modification I will run those for the time being and save up for the long tubes.

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And just a few more of the frame and drivetrain.

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Not long now, haha.

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Super happy with this update because this is the stuff that I really enjoy doing. Hopefully going to test fit the frame this weekend, get a hole cut for the shifter, test fit engine harness to find a location for the ECU, and body panel fitment. I can't forget that I still need to do final fitment of the rocker panel on the driver side and install the passenger side rocker panel.

I decided to wait until I had the frame mounted before I did any final welding on the rocker panels as things may settle slightly. I will likely mount the doors, fenders, core support, and possibly the hood this weekend and start the repairs to the rocker panels. I want to make sure that all my panels are going to fit with all of the repairs that I made on the body. Once the rockers are in place, the only panel left will be my upper dash. Which will get a new piece from AMD.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on August 12, 2016, 10:17:40 AM
Nice progress! I like the engine temp sending unit contraption. I ended up taping the water pump upper boss. Someone should sell those.... maybe they do but couldn't find it.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 14, 2016, 11:03:09 AM
Thanks Form. That adapter actually came with the motor as it was used by someone else who had it in a 64 El Camino. I believe they are sold on ebay. It is an adatper for the cylinder head and is tapped with 1/8" NPT.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 14, 2016, 11:04:06 AM
Another big update for me. With the help of both my dad and father-in-law, we were able to shuffle my newly painted and assembled frame under the car. I am very happy to say that the fully assembled frame fit flawlessly! There is clearance everywhere in both the tunnel and the firewall. Very pleased with the ease of fitment with the Hooker engine mounts. I am very happy that I have gone with those mounts as it has really taken the difficulty out of this swap. I know the rear end isn't in the car, but I put a slight rake in the body and the motor/trans are almost at the perfect angle.

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And the reason that I have gone through the steps of putting the frame under the car is so that I can fit the body panels. Overall, fitment of the door and fender is pretty good. I am going to need to modify the rocker panel in order to pull the top out to meet the door and fender about 1/4". I had a good idea that I would need to make some modifications to the rocker panel, but happy that it isn't worse than it is.

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I also wanted to get an idea of where the shifter was going to come out, so I cut the hole in the trans tunnel. I cut the hole a little small so that I could trim it back later. I even threw in a seat just to get an idea of how it's going to feel. The trans still needs to be raised slightly, but first impression is the shifter is right where it needs to be.

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It is amazing how the car can appear to be so much more complete with just a few body panels on it. It is really neat after making a large leap such as this update, to take a step back and admire all of the work that has been done. It is pretty amazing that the car is where it is today. It has only been 8 months since I got the car, and it is now back to where it was when I got it. Minus all the rust. I still need to repair a few more panels, but I am hoping that the trend will continue with the updates going forward.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on August 14, 2016, 11:34:29 AM
Great work, car is looking good.  Can start to see the light at the end of the tunnel.  Also I like that driver fender. :P
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 15, 2016, 08:47:46 AM
Thanks Box. The Le Mans Blue is starting to grown on me, but I'm still unsure of the color I want to go with the car. Part of me wants to stick to my original plan of the copper, but another part of me wants to replicate the original color with a distressed look. I am really digging on the Patina cars that are out there now. Big wheels, brakes, LS motor, and an original looking body and interior.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 15, 2016, 10:04:22 AM
I took a few more pictures yesterday of the firewall clearance for those that are interested. Plenty of room around everything.

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Might be tight around the heater core, but nothing major.

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Also, this little guy (wife's dog, now ours) wandered in and was acting photogenic.

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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on August 15, 2016, 11:55:57 AM
I think copper would look good too since you don't see it often, but I have a huge soft spot for teals, blues, and purples since they're my favourite colours.  Definitely a lot to think about with so many options out there, and even harder if you're stuck between a few of them.  Engine access looks like it'll be good, definitely a lot better than what you have with a fourth gen anyway. :P
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: F-Body International on August 15, 2016, 01:55:01 PM
My vote is dark grey like the '76
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on August 15, 2016, 05:07:23 PM
I'm partial to blue. Take 1/2 of my car and 1/2 of yours and we'd have one finished car!

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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on August 15, 2016, 05:39:44 PM
In keeping with the penny pinching idea. Check this mod out. I did this to mine.

http://www.pozziracing.com/first_gen_suspension_geome.htm


Happy modding....
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 16, 2016, 05:32:30 AM
Thanks for the link on the Guldstrand mod, free is certainly within the guidelines for my project.  :cool:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 18, 2016, 08:46:23 AM
So, I thought I would share a quick tip for anyone doing some wiring and tracing a harness that is out of a car. Until last night, I had always gotten a battery out, and jumped wires to it, so that I could test circuits. It dawned on my yesterday that the circuits are 12v, and even with 8-9v you can still get a faint light with a test light, so I grabbed a 9v battery I had and it worked like a charm. When I was repairing the wiring harness for the 5.3, I was using a 9v battery and my test light and it worked perfectly, and much less cumbersome than a full sized battery!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: bartsdad on August 18, 2016, 03:11:22 PM
So, I thought I would share a quick tip for anyone doing some wiring and tracing a harness that is out of a car. Until last night, I had always gotten a battery out, and jumped wires to it, so that I could test circuits. It dawned on my yesterday that the circuits are 12v, and even with 8-9v you can still get a faint light with a test light, so I grabbed a 9v battery I had and it worked like a charm. When I was repairing the wiring harness for the 5.3, I was using a 9v battery and my test light and it worked perfectly, and much less cumbersome than a full sized battery!
You can also use a battery from one of your cordless tools.  :idea:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Joe on August 18, 2016, 11:28:21 PM
Always great to see your work rye! Ive always like sunset orange metallic. Not really copper in color, but I find it attractive. I have never seen it in a 1st gen either so that would be interesting.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on August 19, 2016, 10:58:50 AM
Nice work on the fitment of the motor. I like your workshop buddy, I too have a pug.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 19, 2016, 11:51:49 AM
Thanks guys, I appreciate the compliments. I also have a soft spot for SOM, it is definitely not out of the realm of possibility.

The Pug has definitely grown on me.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 28, 2016, 10:45:33 AM
It's been a few weeks without an update. I had to do some repairs on my truck, but I got a little time last night in the garage. I picked up some new door pins and the higher quality "CIP" J-nuts from Steve's Camaro site.

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I installed the new hardware and put the stock 8.2 rear back under the car so that it is a roller again. I wanted to get the car back at ride height to make sure that the sub-frame is at the right angle so that I may find the right angle for my trans crossmember. I have decided to make my own crossmember to keep on budget.

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After I verified the angles I needed, I decided to put the car back up on the wheel stands so that I can finish up the driver's side rocker panel.

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I was trying to clean up the door so that I can get the correct body lines, and realized the other paint was just flaking off. After about 30 mins with a razor blade, I got a good amount of the paint off of the door.

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Just for fun, I set the center console roughly where it should be and the shifter comes up almost perfectly center in the console.

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Also, a very small update but if anyone was wondering, the truck block doesn't have the boss like the aluminum blocks do. That means no modifications for the LS6 valley cover.

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Not much visual progress, but heading in the right direction.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: strangebird on September 01, 2016, 06:37:55 PM
Great progress man. You have had your car 6 months less than I've had mine and it seems you're light years ahead of me already! I need to get my butt in gear... and a rotisserie, it seems.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 06, 2016, 09:28:00 AM
Thanks! I haven't made much progress over the last few weeks. I think I kinda burnt myself out (and my wallet) getting the car back into a roller. I'm stuck right now on the door/quarter/rocker fitment as I am having trouble finding time to get out in my shop. I bought a re-pin kit for the door hinges, so I'm hoping to get those done soon. I have also been slowly picking away at re-wiring my engine harness. Not much visual progress though.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 07, 2016, 05:11:29 PM
I have been working here and there making some small progress and got enough worth of making a post. I had to go to my local pick-a-part to get some parts for my truck, and while I was there I got some parts to finish up my wiring harness. I also found a Jeep Grand Cherokee steering box from a lower mileage vehicle 1997.

Here is the box as pulled. The guys did me a favor, and got the whole box as is for $38 bucks! It should make a pretty cheap upgrade to quick steering with the 12.75:1 ratio, and also give me the metric lines to hook to my LS1 pump. Win-Win.

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Test fit after some power washing. Fits great, just needs a little paint and good to go.

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I also needed the MAP, Crank, and Cam sensor pigtails which were the last ones needed to finish the harness.

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If you remember this is what I started with. I traced and tested all of the wires to verify they are correctly pinned.

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Almost done.

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All shrink wrapped and soldered back together.

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Ready to swap!

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Another part that I was very concerned with was the rocker panel installation in relation to the door and fender. I finally got around to grinding out the door jamb and roughly fit the door and to my relief it all will fit! I didn't get pictures of anything as I need to rebuild the hinges still. Here is where I left off.

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That's all for now. I still need to order new rollers for the hinges, then I can do a real test fit of the door/fender/quarter and see how it all matches up. After the test fit last night, I am so relieved as I thought I would need to possibly cut the rocker off and refit.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: MD79TA on September 10, 2016, 09:24:11 AM
Nice work! Always enjoy your projects!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 10, 2016, 07:24:42 PM
I got a little time in the garage last night, and thought I would update my build. I borrowed a tap and die set, so I put it to good use and drilled the lower boss on the 5.3 so that I can use my 4th gen accessories. It turned out great and was dead center and straight for the hole that I drilled and tapped. For those that may be curious about how the accessories fit with the Holley mounts, I took a few pictures of the clearance around the frame. It is pretty tight, so I may have to make a small notch, but very close to fitting as is.

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I cleaned up and painted the steering box. I also verified that it had the right "alpha" code and is the quick steer box. It had the WK code and it was from a 1997 JGC.

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After I painted that box I decided to finish rebuilding the hinges, and noticed that the passenger side was actually the original hinge and was never touched. It was actually pretty solid still. But I had the rebuild kits and figured I would do it now so it's good for another 45 years!

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Then to change gears away from body work and welding, I decided to start the modifications to my fuel tank. I first started, by taking all of my measurements for the adapter ring that I made from a '09 Colorado fuel tank, and where it would sit in relation to the fuel tank recess I want to make. With the fuel pump assembly attached to the adapter ring, the height I wanted was 6.25" tall. That gave me the measurements I needed to start my template. I cut mine out of some thin cardboard I have been saving for this project.

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Once I had the template, I measured where it would fall in relation to the fuel tank. I wanted it centered, and where the outlet of the fuel pump assembly would be pointing in the right direction. My template measured 10" x 10", and will recess the pump roughly 1.25". No turning back now!

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Luckily it fit right in between the two ribs on the tank.

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And test fit, it is going to work perfectly. I wanted the compressed height of the assembly to be between 6.25" and 6.5" and it measured in right at 6.5" with my template. Perfect. Now for those wondering, the fully compressed height for the assembly is 5.75" and the fully extended height is 7.125". So somewhere in the middle is right where I want to be. 

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Now, my original plan was to cut my recess out of stainless steel, but due to the added complications, I just used mild steel. I had a piece of 16 gauge steel, which is a little more rigid and won't give any issues with welding to the tank.

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To make the bends much cleaner, I used a tape line and my cut off disk on my 4 1/2 grinder and cut a small line where I wanted the bends. I saw this trick somewhere else online, and it worked incredibly well. The lines are so clean and the bends are spot on. This is the first time I have had a piece of metal this large, come out exactly like my template. Not too bad for working at 2am.

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And here is the first trial fitment. I still need to verify the exact height for the pump assembly, make sure it is level, and that the pickup is where I want it. I am tempted at this point to bit the bullet, and buy the corner pick-ups and be done with it. I haven't welded anything so that is still up in the air. Overall, it came out better than I had imagined. The recess fits exactly where I wanted it and fits perfectly in the center of the tank. The zinc coated part in the upper left is a universal fuel level sender I picked up at a swap meet for $5 bucks. And yes, I will be buying a new locking ring as that one is severely pitted/rusty.

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I can't wait to see the final product! Very happy with the progress on that so far.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: scarebird on September 10, 2016, 09:13:10 PM
If you plan on doing much more tin cutting, these are the snips to get:

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They are called offset snips, available both left (red) and right (green) cut.

20 year Journeyman tinner

Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on September 11, 2016, 11:42:52 AM
Looks like you're making some great progress.  I can't help but find it somewhat ironic using a Jeep steering box to get quicker steering, but hey what works works.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 12, 2016, 09:39:43 AM
Looks like you're making some great progress.  I can't help but find it somewhat ironic using a Jeep steering box to get quicker steering, but hey what works works.

Box, you are right. I never really stopped to think about it but the Jeep box is kinda funny/ironic. But heck, I started looking around the internet for some kind of adapter for my stock steering box (16:1), and the adapters are $20-25 plus shipping. For under $40 bucks I upgraded to a quick steer box and have the metric fittings needed for the LS swap. I love finding budget solutions to problems that I could have easily just thrown money at.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 12, 2016, 09:41:57 AM
If you plan on doing much more tin cutting, these are the snips to get:

They are called offset snips, available both left (red) and right (green) cut.

20 year Journeyman tinner



Yes, those could have definitely come in handy. I contemplated buying a pair of left and right cutters, but I settled for the one I have. It definitely made my cuts more tricky with the one I have. If I do anymore metal work, a pair of right and left snips are top on my list.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: hot72rod on September 16, 2016, 07:36:35 AM
Just a couple of quick items for you, the adaptor in the passenger head can be had from summit racing in a kit for $16.10 part# SEN-03-6, this kit will also give you the adaptor of the oil sending unit that goes behind the intake.

On the jeep steering box, you may want to go back to that yard and grab the u-joint that was at the end of the steering column, it's cheaper then trying to find a rag joint that will work.

I know you said there was no need for baffling with that 5th gen fuel pump basket, but since you have such a large hole cut in the tank, wouldn't it be just as easy to add a little baffling?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 18, 2016, 12:27:45 PM
I was still bumming out with the fitment of my door/rocker/quarter panels so when my father-in-law stopped by, he gave me a hand moving the panels around. We determined that when the rocker panel and quarter were put on, they got the welds too hot and it pulled the rocker panel and quarter both up and in which is mostly what is causing the fitment issues. I cut one of the welds and using the BFH, we persuaded the rocker panel down 1/8". This is what we ended up with.

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It is definitely not done, but is close enough that I won't need to do major modifications to the rocker and quarter panels. I am much happier knowing that with a little love, those panels will fit. I am so relieved as my mind was going to the worst case scenario (as I usually do), and pricing out full quarter panel and rocker panels for replacement to start over. I am glad that isn't the case.

I continued work on my fuel tank project and drilled my holes in both the fuel tank recess and the adapter ring. Once I bolted it down and I did a test fit in the car, it was clear that the panel needed to go down about an inch to clear everything. I also made sure to clock the fuel pump pick-up to ensure that it will be submerged enough.

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I cut the tank just a little more, and now the pump sits just slightly lower than the top of the tank.

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I used my square and made sure that it was perfect on both sides. I got the welder dialed in and this is how it turned out. Very smooth and excellent weld penetration.

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Welded some nuts to the bottom side.

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I made sure that everything was level and then tack welded in a few spots. One final test fit before I burned it in for good.

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After I started working on everything I decided that I was going to give butt welding the panel a go to see what it would look like. After a few inches of weld, it was turning out better than I had expected. Then before I knew it I was done. It got excellent penetration and I believe that it is sealed up. Still need to get everything bolted together to verify.

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After a little love with the flap disk.

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After primer and paint.

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I am extremely happy with the way that it turned out. I still need to finish the mounting ring for the fuel level sender and modify the fuel pump to constant using the Vaporworx kit. It is very close to be buttoned up.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on September 18, 2016, 02:05:47 PM
Wow! That came out great!  That is kind of what I had in mind for my 67 but at the time I only had a 3rd gen fuel tank to cut up for the pump. I will probably end up doing something very similar to what you have done. Keep it up!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: MD79TA on September 18, 2016, 03:54:50 PM
Excellent work as usual!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on September 18, 2016, 03:55:37 PM
Looks great, so does this mean you're keeping it? :P
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Jack on September 18, 2016, 06:11:24 PM
I think he is keeping it... great work Ryan.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 19, 2016, 08:33:54 AM
Thanks for all of the compliments, I really appreciate it. They help to keep me motivated.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 19, 2016, 08:34:25 AM
I went over to my Dad's house and used his cabinet blaster, and got the passenger side hinges all cleaned up. Here they are with some epoxy primer ready to be reassembled.

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I also had to run back to the pick-a-part yard to return some stuff I didn't need for my truck, and while I was there I took a look in the yard. Wouldn't you know I found a 02 Camaro that wanted to donate parts. I figured the rear brakes would have been gone, but sure enough they were still there. Unfortunately, the NY winters have taken its toll on the dust shields but everything else looks to be in fair condition. Rusted, but nothing that won't clean right up. I got all of the hardware, brackets and hoses. I didn't bother with the rotors since I will just get those new. Not too bad for $30 bucks though.

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I also robbed the clutch fluid reservoir and some metri-pack connectors to make quick disconnections on my engine harness.

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I came really close to taking the front rotors, calipers and brackets to do the front disk brake conversion, but since I really want the C5 brakes from CPP I decided to hold off for now. Plus I would need to get bigger wheels and tires anyway, so that will be unnecessary at this point.

So after some thought, I decided not to keep the world heads that I got with the LS1 I picked up. I will not be installing this motor for a while, so the funds can be used elsewhere. Since we are saving for a new house, most if not all of it will likely be allocated in that direction. But, upon further inspection it looks like the guy I bought it from was honest and it does have Mahle pistons. They are a -4cc dish and fully forged for the 3.898 bore (stock) so the motor hasn't been bored which is a good thing to me.

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Sprayed the shortblock all over with WD-40 and wrapped it in plastic. Stored it for another day.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 19, 2016, 08:36:23 AM
Looks great, so does this mean you're keeping it? :P

Yes, I have decided to keep the car. After weighing all of my options, I think that trading for this car would be a regret later on in life. It would essentially be the easy way out and that isn't what I want. I have always wanted a first gen Camaro and this car will be really nice when I am finished. 
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 19, 2016, 09:42:44 AM
Just a couple of quick items for you, the adaptor in the passenger head can be had from summit racing in a kit for $16.10 part# SEN-03-6, this kit will also give you the adaptor of the oil sending unit that goes behind the intake.

On the jeep steering box, you may want to go back to that yard and grab the u-joint that was at the end of the steering column, it's cheaper then trying to find a rag joint that will work.

I know you said there was no need for baffling with that 5th gen fuel pump basket, but since you have such a large hole cut in the tank, wouldn't it be just as easy to add a little baffling?

Thanks for those part numbers hotrod. I was actually going to start looking for one of the oil pressure adapters soon. Saved me some time.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on September 19, 2016, 02:11:01 PM
All things considered I think you've made the right decision.  Another thing I thought about earlier is that for most tastes change over time, which the '76 was done in a very tasteful way that's kind of timeless but it may not be to your exact liking anymore where as the Camaro is a blank slate for the present day you.  As always I look forward to the next update.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: F-Body International on September 28, 2016, 11:28:57 AM
I was a bit at odds about the cylinder heads being sold but I guess you can buy some GM heads for much cheaper and invest elsewhere like mentioned.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 28, 2016, 12:31:09 PM
I was a bit at odds about the cylinder heads being sold but I guess you can buy some GM heads for much cheaper and invest elsewhere like mentioned.

The thing about the World heads, is at the end of the day the flow numbers just aren't that impressive. They are hitting 300cfm at something like .700 lift. Keep in mind that is their advertised flow numbers and not a real flow bench number. There are several places that are doing a mild cnc port job on 243 or 317 GM castings that are hitting those numbers with real world tests. There were also some reports of very poor castings, and even in the directions that World provides, they encourage you to check their heads for mis-alignments! I feel like that is what quality control is for right? My gut was telling me to get rid of them.

Besides the bad reputation and unimpressive performance, on a more personal note my wife and I are in fundraising mode. We are supposed to be closing on our current home around mid November and are trying to focus on getting a solid chunk of money for a down payment on the new house. (when we find one that is... :shock:)

The unfortunate part of this move is that I am going to be losing my garage, so the progress will be coming to a screeching halt very soon. I'm hoping to make one more big push before we sell and lose my garage space. Since I am unsure of where I will be able to store the car, I am going to try and get it weather tight. May spend a little while outside... Not optimal but better than having to sell it.

Hope that answers your question.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 28, 2016, 02:00:29 PM
I haven't gotten much time recently to work on my car. I have been spending time with family and working on projects around our house. The big brown truck delivered a much needed piece for the car though. The car desperately needs an upper dash as it is severely rusted on the lower section. I'm actually looking forward to this piece as it "shouldn't" take that long to install. It is just spot welded along the edges and where the lower dash meets. The only unknown is how severe the rust is under the dash piece...

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Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 29, 2016, 07:23:26 AM
Well, the wife and baby were asleep by 8pm last night, so I snuck into the garage to get some work done. I wanted to focus on getting the fuel tank buttoned up. First thing that I addressed was drilling the holes for my fuel tank sending unit. I used the gasket for a template and drilled them out. After that, I filed any burrs and got to work with the inside of the tank. I used about 12 brand new shop rags, brake clean, and a magnet, but it cleaned up really nicely. I kept using the new rags to monitor how dirty they were when I was done wiping the tank. Once I saw satisfied, I re-installed my adapter ring for good with my Viton seal. (bought a 9" remnant from ebay and made my own gasket)

Once the fuel sending unit was in for good, I had to bend the level sender so that it would read empty and full while still clearing the recess panel. It took me a little bit to figure out the angles, but it turned out pretty good and I am satisfied that it will read correctly. Having a 5" hole in the top of the tank helps with making those small adjustments too.

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All buttoned up and installed for a final time.

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Now was the part that I was excited to start; modifying the stock fuel pump assembly to run at constant 58psi. I bought this kit a while back from Carl at Vaporworx, and I have been patiently waiting for the tank to be done before I did anything with the pump. I used a little cleaner and a scrub brush to clean up the pump assembly and it looks brand new!

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I followed along with the highly detailed instructions that were provided, and it was incredibly easy. First step was to remove the retaining ring and remove the stock fuel pressure reg.

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Once it is removed you end up with this. There is also the grounding ring that needs to be temporarily moved to the side.

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This is the heart of the conversion. This is an adapter that was developed by Vaporworx and is what allows for the new fuel pressure regulator to work properly.

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Like it mentioned in the instructions, the filter was in the way for the adapter to seat properly, so I had to gently move it to the side. I ended up installing it at an angle, and it worked like a charm. Hard to get a picture, but there is the filter in the way.

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Adapter fully seated

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Here is a comparison of the 4th gen fuel reg vs. the stock one that came out. 4th gen on the left and stock on the right.

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And fully installed. Don't forget to re-install the grounding ring.

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Fully completed swap. Here are all of the tools that were required for the job too.

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(this tag is for future reference)

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And here is the fully installed tank. I threw some paint on the stock retaining ring, but will get a new one before final install. For now it works fine to hold it down.

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8399/29968901266_3196458c57_b.jpg)

(https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8356/29919777941_4574671523_b.jpg)

Ready to go into the car! The only modification I may make is to bend up a hard line from the pump assembly to the driver's side front of the tank for a cleaner install.

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5558/29968899826_b831583ae7_b.jpg)

Now to change gears just slightly, I am trying to get this motor running for my Pa (wife's grandpa who I bought the car from). He has had this LT4 spec LT1 since around early 2000's and has never gotten it to run correctly. I'm going to give a shot at it.

That was part of the motivation for getting the tank done sooner than later. The LT1 rails are regulated with a return line but unlike the LS1, the LT1 needs around 43psi to run correctly. So, with the feed line giving 58psi it shouldn't be too difficult for it to regulate down to 43psi. At least that is my thought.

The problem he is having with the motor is something is not allowing the injectors to open and trigger as they should. I used a program a while ago to disable the VATS in the system, so that should be good to go, but for safe measure, we also have a VATS bypass module. I'm thinking that there is something like the neutral safety switch isn't grounded or similar that is causing the issue. I'm continuing to trouble shoot, and will update soon.

My wiring mess...

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8676/30002916355_289d77662f_b.jpg)

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on September 29, 2016, 01:56:47 PM
Good work on the tank, shame to be losing the garage though.  Hopefully the house you find at least has a carport or room to put one in.

Also interesting to see someone doing something with a LT1/4, they get overlooked due to the LS series but they're a good motor and being the SBC's swan song counts for something.  To some extent I actually prefer them to the LS series, the intake induction noise and exhaust note is pure magic.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 30, 2016, 11:11:13 AM
Thanks Box. I know it's going to be tough losing the garage, but hopefully it will only be temporary. We are looking for houses right now, and most in the price range we are looking for have one.

Depending on what happens with the LT1 motor, I may try and convince him to let me do the EFI Connection 24x swap which will allow him to control the LT motor with an LS computer. Pretty slick design, and believe it or not will actually pull more power from just a computer swap.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on September 30, 2016, 11:57:40 AM
I thought about the 24x conversion myself, from what I had looked into TorqHead offered what seemed like a complete and as logical/easy as possible conversion.  That's ok though, for what any of them cost I'd much rather put the money in suspension. :P
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 03, 2016, 06:42:20 AM
Well no work on the Camaro, but I do have some good news on the LT1 engine. After a year or so of troubleshooting on and off I figured out that the issues with the motor not firing it came down to two things. Either the vats was still causing the engine to not fire or the injectors weren't working correctly. I confirmed that the motor was getting plenty of spark, but no fuel was pulsing from the injectors. I pulled the fuel rail, and everything was bone dry...  :???: Even with the vats enabled, it should still have fuel delivered to the manifold. Vats kills the injectors after 2-3 seconds. I took one of my EV1 pigtails to my 5.3 motor to verify that the injector would click if activated and sure enough it did. Tried the same thing on the LT1 injector and nothing. AHH, I'm on to something. I tapped the injector lightly with a hammer, and it clicked and sprayed the residual pressurized fuel out! Did that to the rest of the injectors and verified they were all functioning. One more try, and it fired right off! I was stoked that it finally ran. I didn't get a video, but it was very quiet, but the throttle response was incredible. I was impressed.

(https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5625/30004402901_2a41b042f2_b.jpg)

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5191/29459932634_7efe6b9c00_b.jpg)

So that's a win in my book. I was able to get that running for Pa, and now I can get that motor out of my garage to free up some more space.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 04, 2016, 05:47:41 AM
Now that the LT1 is running, I am sending it back to clear up some more room in my garage. I tore down my makeshift run-stand to free up some space. I decided that it was time to pull the frame one last time. I have several things that need to be done prior to installing it for a final time. I need to do some repairs to the firewall, cowl and replace the upper dash. Once that's complete I want to prime and trim out the window channels so that I can install the front and rear windows.

The other component that I want to spend time on is getting the frame completed. This includes building my transmission cross-member, brake lines, possible frame notch, and etc. First thing I want to focus on is building my own cross-member, as the aftermarket ones are just not in the budget right now. Still toying around with how I am going to attempt this as I have a few designs in my head that I have taken from many different designs.

One step forward, two steps back:

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8773/29994724732_8561c66f0d_b.jpg)

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8770/29814015540_2d26bb930b_b.jpg)

I'm going to try and work on the car a few hours a night as many nights as I can during the week as I will be losing my garage space in the near future. Not sure where I will be able to store the car in the meantime, so I am going to attempt to get the car into a running/driving state so that it can move under it's own power. Time will tell how close I can come to that.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: scarebird on October 04, 2016, 11:18:50 AM
Ryan,  I modded my cross member to sit on a pair of welded perchs on the inside of the frame rails.  These were about an inch lower then stock and allowed two things:

1. Much easier to remove than the back and forth dance the stock location demanded.

2. Driveline angle could be adjusted with sims under the trans mount.

Something to consider and if desired could take pix.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 04, 2016, 12:00:14 PM
Ryan,  I modded my cross member to sit on a pair of welded perchs on the inside of the frame rails.  These were about an inch lower then stock and allowed two things:

1. Much easier to remove than the back and forth dance the stock location demanded.

2. Driveline angle could be adjusted with sims under the trans mount.

Something to consider and if desired could take pix.

Yes, please if you could take a picture that would greatly help me while building mine.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: scarebird on October 04, 2016, 03:58:37 PM
I guess I did not drop it as much as I thought...  I did not need any shims so I your case you may want it even lower.  This was with the LS3 with the Camaro pan and it sits darn low on the subframe - had to radius the frame slightly and move the RF brake line.

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a107/Scarebird/IMG_0429_zps522nn1sy.jpg?t=1475531733)
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: fixitrht on October 05, 2016, 12:15:30 PM
Great idea on the x member. I started with a short one and ended up cleaning up another. I never thought to cut it down a bit more and tacked a support on the frame. That could have saved and hour anyway..
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 08, 2016, 06:52:48 PM
My first attempt I tried to use a universal mount that I had, but was just going to take more work that it was worth. So, I started from scratch and it took me a while to figure out how I wanted to build it and after a lot of searching, measuring and assessing what I have in my scrap bin I came up with a design. I really liked the looks of the G-Force crossmembers with the U channel to allow for the exhaust to run through. I decided to make my own version of that.

I started with some remnants from the rotisserie inserts that I made for the rear leaf spring mounts. I got it all lined up with the stock holes on the subframe. It is a 1/4" plate, should be enough to hold up the transmission.

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5772/29571174043_3ce498849a_b.jpg)

(https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5481/30115516181_1d2f2f9586_b.jpg)

Drilled and tapped the holes.

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7546/30085825772_414f6c7bdc_b.jpg)

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7775/30200411795_487925203f_b.jpg)

Here is the piece of scrap that I had. It is a rectangular tube 5 x 3 that is 1/4" thick. That is what I'm using to make the channel for my exhaust.

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5114/30115512131_a11683b058_b.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8418/29904558840_c16728e8e4_b.jpg)

I used some jack stands to roughly test fit the channels.

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5538/29904558330_b527b33184_b.jpg)

Once I was satisfied with the fitment, and all squared up I tacked them in place. After I test fit everything, I ended up raising the U channels up around an 1" for a little more clearance.

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8567/29904557810_0fe6b4d8da_b.jpg)

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5168/29571231924_5c0b1e5925_b.jpg)

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8573/30115508151_8c198000f7_b.jpg)

The center cradle is even thicker at 3/8" steel. I notched and bent the steel to right angle where I was happy.

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5814/29904555270_71eb415236_b.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5449/29571166073_8aa4670266_b.jpg)

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5050/29904553710_3c7c425ae1_b.jpg)

I took some final measurements making sure to ensure that the sub-frame was level and engine/trans were at the correct 3.5*.

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7498/30085816222_8b925d85b7_b.jpg)

(picture makes it look like the crossmember slopes upward, but is flat)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7538/30085815112_8256c2c4b6_b.jpg)

And all tacked up ready for a final weld.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/9/8643/30200404945_9de6fde277_b.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5795/30085813312_ba350e3b25_b.jpg)

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5266/30166018246_7fa0acce83_b.jpg)

Test fitting 3" exhaust. It will tuck up very nicely when installed.

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5165/30085810642_d72b069bbf_b.jpg)

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8547/29571159323_163d6a1263_b.jpg)

Unfortunately, I don't have a large enough welder to penetrate this caliber of steel. Fortunately my dad does.

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5123/30166016726_d39b30f59a_b.jpg)

I am very happy with the way that the cross-member has turned out. I still need to clean up the weld spatter and smooth out some of the sharp edges, but it is very close to being finished. I was very concerned that the crossmember was going to warp when I welded it at my Dad's house, but I took all of the precaution and the warping was minimal. I test fit when I got home and it all still fit with minimal effort.

Thanks,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on October 09, 2016, 06:28:36 AM
All I have to say is wow. That thing looks awesome! Items like this make the build look professionally built. Which it is by the way. Keep it up.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on October 09, 2016, 10:07:53 AM
Nice work on the crossmember. Now all you need is a home powdercoat setup and you'll be in business!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: silver78 on October 09, 2016, 12:19:53 PM
Is the floor pan going to clear it?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: nas t eh on October 09, 2016, 01:15:14 PM
I think I must be stupid but,
I'm looking at it and wondering how you would get it out to pull the trans(if needed) once the car is all back together, won't it be trapped? The lower vertical part of angle iron at the perch needs to be cut back to the weld, right? And your going to cut back the lower part of the C channel (exhaust humps) too?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on October 09, 2016, 01:54:39 PM
My guess is you unbolt it and slide it back and then drop it.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 09, 2016, 03:28:59 PM
Thanks for all of the compliments! I am pretty excited with how it turned out. If I wasn't selling my house I probably would invest in a gun to powder coat it.

I made sure to measure everything before I built this crossmember, so I won't have any problems with fitment.

As for the removing it when installed in the car, it will be no different than with the stock crossmember. Just have to lift the transmission slightly, remove the bolts and it will tilt back, up and out.  :cool:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on October 09, 2016, 05:42:45 PM
I guess I was impressed with the work that I didn't even consider fitment issues. After going back and looking I can see why questions were raised. I'm glad you figured things out ahead of time Ryan, still a very good job.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on October 09, 2016, 08:11:21 PM
Wow that cross member looks the business, great job as always. 8)
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 10, 2016, 06:16:14 AM
Well I suppose I will post up the bad along with the good. I swear that my measurements were spot on when I tacked the bracket together Friday night/Saturday morning, but somewhere along the way I angled the motor/trans too far downward. Yesterday I test fit the crossmember and was surprised that it was angled down so far? I was reading ~7.5*?? Not sure where I went wrong as I was shooting for 4* and then I could shim it upward slightly to get the perfect drive angle.

The only thing I can think of is either completely messed up while measuring, or after I was done I did a test fit with the full weight of the trans on the bracket when it was only tacked together it may have tweaked. Or the other very real possibility is by 2am while I was building this thing, I had been up for over 21 hours straight... :shock:

Enough with the excuses, what's done is done. This actually may be a blessing in disguise, as it will give me an opportunity to add a little more cross bracing. I need to make up the gap of roughly 1 3/4" from the top of the crossmember mount to the bottom of the trans mount.

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5508/30199830596_3884584cf2_b.jpg)

Frame is at exactly 0* and with the board and a 3/8" scrap piece I am sitting at exactly 3.5*. Which means I need to make up that difference in gap.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7479/30199828936_5b7c80951b_b.jpg)

And for those that were wondering if the crossmember will hit the floor, here are some pictures with the solid body mounts. The floor is no lower than the mount, and is humped up right around the trans crossmember as well.

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5528/30199829086_b1d6966110_b.jpg)

At least one of my measurements came out like I planned. I will update with how I solve this issue. Isn't building cars fun!

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: duffinatur on October 10, 2016, 07:33:25 PM
Nice fab work, Ryan!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 15, 2016, 11:53:40 AM
Due to fitment issues, I have had to revise the original design. Although I was disappointed with the fitment of my original design, I am really pleased with Version 2.0. After some feedback and test fitting, I realized it would make a lot more sense to make the crossmember in three pieces rather than one. The other issue with the original is that there was much more flex than I liked. After a lot of thought, I decided to add a bead of weld along the bottom side of the angled iron that bolts to the original frame. This reduced the flex substantially.

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5490/30044160810_bf96aa93b2_b.jpg)

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5482/30044157180_0401ea15e2_b.jpg)

And here is what I came up with for the bolt on design.

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8277/29709632203_e43bafb838_b.jpg)

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5343/30044158500_02cf34d8a9_b.jpg)

The trans mount put together with the new center section. All the flex is gone and the crossmember can be removed with just 6 bolts.

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8140/29709629843_815cd2cf69_b.jpg)

Final test fit. The picture makes it look crooked, but it is within a 1/16" on both sides. Just the way I was laying under the car...

(https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8547/29709626213_01a6a33ff3_b.jpg)

Complete and all tacked together.

(https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8605/29709626653_3e045026cd_b.jpg)

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8271/29709622823_2d41b923a1_b.jpg)

Once again, over to my Dad's to do a final weld to bond it all together. I'm sure glad that he is understanding.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8268/30224936512_e187733b38_b.jpg)

Now that it is finally welded up solid, I need to do a final clean up with the flap disk to clean up the welding spatter and any sharp edges. After that it will get painted and I will do a final install.

I also was able to finally track down someone that had a MAP sensor plug for my LS1 intake. When I bought my engine, it had the rear map plug missing. After a little research I realized that that particular part isn't sold separately from the intakes. So that means that I had to find someone that had one that they removed from an intake. Luckily, Last of the Breed was able to pull through for me and had one that was in mint condition.

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8128/30340990175_81d35ec1ce_b.jpg)

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8267/30224934742_c7b5398007_b.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5733/29709864273_d476f61f57_b.jpg)

My Pa came over to get the LT1 engine and take that home with him for his next project. While I was helping him to load up the engine, I had my little helper out in the garage.

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5774/30224660372_6622e7a40e_b.jpg)

I am very happy to have that crossmember fabrication done. Just a little grinder work, paint and it will look killer. Glad to have some good news for this update.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: hot72rod on October 17, 2016, 01:04:13 PM
Even though it looks like you tapped the plate so that you would have to use a nut, I would still use a nyloc nut. on the inward bolt. If by some chance 2 bolt on one side fall out, you will be looking at some major issues.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 18, 2016, 06:01:56 AM
Thanks for the input hotrod. You actually read my mind as I was thinking that same thing. I'm hoping to get into the garage within the next few days to clean up from all the welding slag and sharp edges so that I can put some paint on the crossmember. I have spent way more time that I had originally anticipated and would like to put this project behind me.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 19, 2016, 06:53:10 AM
I got a few hours in the garage last night, and got to work finishing up the crossmember. I used my flap disk to smooth off the welding spatter, sharp edges and smooth out any uneven welds. I also needed to add in a plate to seal off the section that I had to clearance for the T56 tail shaft. Once that was done, I painted everything with Rustoleum and topped with a gloss black enamel paint. They turned out really good, and I have been very happy with the results from the oil based paint. Time will tell how durable it is though. I hope to get some better pictures once it drys.

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5740/30309553682_40074def05_b.jpg)

Notch for the 6 speed.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5701/30390315816_8be0f8c589_b.jpg)

Moving on, I pulled the motor and trans to get one step closer to final installation. I cleaned up the engine block with Purple Power, and brake clean as it was really clean to begin with. Topped it off with a fresh coat of VHT Chevy Orange. I didn't want to paint the whole motor, but I thought the engine block would give a little throwback for the Camaro.

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8276/30426397335_aaff900a6f_b.jpg)

The T56 had a lot more grime on it. I sprayed it down with the purple power and gave it a good scrubbing, but still had some grease in tough to get areas. Going to wait and power wash it this week sometime, then give it a fresh coat of paint.

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5555/29794776523_2d3d4195e8_b.jpg)

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8134/29794776543_3018651e47_b.jpg)

I'm almost done with all of the major metal work, and I am going to try my best to get it finished up and bolted back together before we sell our house. Once we sell it will likely be going into storage at my Dad's house and although he has a garage, I won't be able to just go out and work on it for a few hours after everyone goes to sleep like I do now. Hopefully the new place will have a garage.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on October 19, 2016, 12:15:21 PM
If you want inexpensive paint for parts use Rustoleum's Appliance Epoxy, single step paint with great coverage and dries to a hard washable finish.  It suspiciously similar to their roll bar/chassis paint but it's under $4 a can at Wal-Mart, then again both are one-step epoxy paints...  The appliance paint does have a semi-gloss/gloss appearance though where chassis paint is more satin, but my thought process being higher gloss makes it harder and more resistant to dirt and grime sticking to it plus it's considerably cheaper.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 20, 2016, 06:54:25 AM
Real quick update. I couldn't help but unwrap my freshly painted motor and bolt some stuff on.

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8608/29816445284_977986cbec_b.jpg)

Love this shot.

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8579/30447513975_88e6c4f192_b.jpg)
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 24, 2016, 05:59:16 AM
I started off this past weekend with every intent of getting the motor/trans fully assembled and final installed into my frame. I had also thought that I may be able to take a stab at getting the firewall prepped so I would be able to install the frame for good. Well, as luck would have it I didn't get anywhere close to that. I started outlining what needed to be done prior to installation of the engine/trans, and remembered that one of the cylinder heads had a broken exhaust manifold stud. After messing around with that for three hours, I finally was able to get it out. I had to drill the stud out, and what eventually got it out was when I welded a nut to the broken stud, and was able to unscrew it with a wrench. Not much to show for it other than the remains of the bolt.

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5548/29904166074_c5f0e92259_b.jpg)

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5645/29901957783_bfa366741b_b.jpg)

After that was done, I focused on getting the clutch and flywheel installed. Before I could do that, I had to install the pilot bearing for the T56. Being that it was a truck motor it never had one, so it did make it easier to just install that rather then removing an old bearing too.

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8640/29901957823_bbe166e574_b.jpg)

Flywheel with new ARP bolts. Note that I had a piece I cut off of an old flywheel and I used it to wedge between the motor and flywheel to torque the flywheel bolts.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5664/30498504336_bb0ef363a4_b.jpg)

Clutch and flywheel installed using ARP bolts, and I had to buy a clutch installation tool to center the clutch plate.

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8569/29901957803_67730793a6_b.jpg)

Once that was installed, I moved on to something different and got my crossmember bolted up. I'm really happy with the final results.

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8569/30236685180_b50c74a8fb_b.jpg)

I also installed the new MAP plug in my LS1 intake.

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5543/30418304492_5875f748e7_b.jpg)

I struggled for a while getting the input shaft into the pilot bearing, but it finally gave up and seated fully against the block. Hear is my finished motor/transmission. ready to install into the frame.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5339/30498503416_4078983d61_b.jpg)

Now, as I was running out of time and started to install and torque the bolts for the frame mounted clamshells and adapter plates from Hooker and I started to have some issues. It appears that the front bolts were too short for my frame? Not sure if this was an over look by Hooker, or if when my motor was mounted in the frame, that it moved slightly. Either way, I had to get a bolt that was slightly longer to account for this. Luckily, I had some left over bolts from another project that were grade 8 and exactly the same length. I even had some lock washers. Just thought I would share for anyone else in this situation.

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5342/29904162774_881bc28e33_b.jpg)

I ran out of time this weekend so I didn't get the final install of the engine done, but I did make an order on Thursday for some more parts to hopefully get me to a point where I can do a test fire of the motor! Really excited for that. I thought that I would give some kudos to Jeg's who had some extremely fast shipping. I ordered this 67-68 F-Body brake and clutch pedal kit from OER through Jeg's on Thursday afternoon, and I had them on my doorstep on Saturday afternoon! Very quick delivery! As for the pedals, they were a great price and should work perfectly. Still need to install them, but they had excellent reviews for fitment.

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8577/30498504276_fd84357a13_b.jpg)

All for now,

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: MNBob on October 24, 2016, 01:53:44 PM
From the remains, it is easy to see you had a real battle with that bolt!  The cross member looks great with the fit and the cutouts for the exhaust.  Also, with the clutch and tranny mated to the motor, you must be feeling good about your progress - another milestone.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 25, 2016, 05:40:47 AM
Bob, it was certainly a battle... I exhausted all tools with the last one being my welder. Which happened to work!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 25, 2016, 07:09:39 AM
Worked out in the garage again tonight for a few hours. I got the motor/trans that much closer to installing into the car. My father-in-law is coming over to help me look at a small repair patch on the cowl today after work. Once that is done, I want to paint the firewall and install the frame. Then I can start bolting as much onto the car as I can before the move.

Frame with crossmember installed with all grade 8 hardware and Loctite 242 on all bolts.

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And after a not much persuasion, the driveline installed perfectly. I even put both of the motor mount bolts in by hand! Now that is good alignment.

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Since I would like to see if this motor will fire and run, I wanted to get some sort of exhaust on there. I decided to go to the point of no return and cut off the O2 sensor boss and smooth off the driver's manifold (from 02 LS1 Camaro) and see if it would fit for me. And to my surprise, it actually cleared! The problem is it only clears by about 1/8". I think it should be enough, but does anyone have any feedback?

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Hopefully that will hold ok. I preheated the manifold before I welded it, so hopefully it is a good weld. They are going to be a temporary exhaust until I buy the headers from Hooker.

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De-burred inside with my carbide.

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Now it was hard to get a good angle, but this is the clearance that I have for the steering box.

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I cleaned up and installed the LS1 intake as well as the injectors and rails. Unfortunately, what I thought was a yellowish dust is actually a yellowish paint overspray that doesn't want to come off. It will eventually be replaced so I am not too concerned about it.

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8562/30469888211_55b32912c2_b.jpg)

Test fit the wiring harness and ecu, and it will fit nicely. Just need to loom it up and tidy some longer wires.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/9/8571/29923979273_abe53f5b85_b.jpg)

And getting prepped for a test fire!

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And to throw a random update, the pedals fit perfectly. It took me about 3 minutes to remove the auto pedal and swap out the manual pedals. I couldn't ask for a better price and fitment.

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All for now. Hope to have the firewall repaired and possibly painted by tomorrow so that I can start to get this beast into fewer pieces. And possibly a video of the motor running by this weekend.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on October 25, 2016, 10:04:49 AM
Nice job on welding cast iron!  Hopefully can get it fired up soon too, disturb the neighbours and what not. :P
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: strangebird on October 25, 2016, 05:46:05 PM
I am really impressed with how quickly you are moving along on this project. Well done.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on October 26, 2016, 04:41:08 AM
What harness and ECU are you running?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 26, 2016, 06:01:06 AM
Thanks for all of the compliments. I want to get this car as complete as possible and I don't want to have to re-do things. I would rather have the frame and firewall prepped now, so that when I move I won't need to remove it all again.

The ECU and harness that I am running is from the 5.3 when I bought it. I'm not 100% sure, but from the pictures I have seen that the harness is PSI. The ECU that I am running is from a 2001 truck so it is is the 0411 PCM. Not sure if that is the one that I will run or not. The biggest thing will be if the truck computer will control my reverse lockout solenoid on the T56. From what I have read it won't, but need to confirm. If it doesn't control it, I will run one of the 99 6 speed Camaro computers that I have.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 26, 2016, 06:21:13 AM
My father-in-law came over last night and helped me with the firewall. We prepped the metal clean and applied a product called Fusor along with a structural panel behind the firewall to brace and seal where the panels had rusted. I honestly wasn't sure how to approach this panel, as it was a very strange place to see rust. I am really happy with this repair as it was a much safer alternative to cutting and welding out the panels. Once that has 24 hours to cure, I am going to go over everything with the Rustoleum paint in the inside of the cowl. Then I want to seam seal inside to prevent that from happening again.

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While he was prepping that I was helping with the firewall, I was cleaning up my bench and putting tools away. I have been scrambling to get everything done and leaving all of my tools out, so it has gotten very crazy. Once I was done with that, I cut and trimmed the shifter opening for the shift lever. I made sure to mark off when I did the last test fitment a few weeks ago when I was building my crossmember.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5463/29944326073_88509cc6d5_b.jpg)

I have been working flat out for the last 5 days and any spare time that I have has been working on this car. I need a few days to recover, and then hopefully I can prep and paint the firewall Friday night. Once that is finished, I can bolt down my sub-frame for hopefully the last time and start bolting doors, fenders, hood, etc so that it is in as few pieces as possible for the move.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 31, 2016, 09:06:51 AM
The goal of the weekend was to get as close to finishing the firewall/cowl/dash as possible. I mostly accomplished it, but am lacking some paint. Last week I worked to get the cowl repaired and now that is done and it was time to strip down the firewall and get it prepped for final paint. Here is what I started with:

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Stripped down, primed and a fresh bead of seam sealer. I was really happy with how closely it resembled the original look. Which is what I was going for. I used a paint brush about 3/4" wide, and I cut down the bristles to about 1/2" long.

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5626/30649574556_5eaf5d94cb_b.jpg)

It was tough lighting, but here is the best I could do for a picture. I want to give it a few more coats when I am done with the dash, but here's the general idea. I'm also toying with the idea of filling in some of the indents with body filler for a slightly cleaner look.

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5343/30054555934_fff17d9253_b.jpg)

Then the part I was dreading... Rusted dash board. Here is what I started with.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5550/30386031120_004e737130_b.jpg)

And what I found. As much as this car was rusty, for once I was pleasantly surprised as the panel was in much better shape than I thought. It was solid enough to clean up and treat for rust as is without any patch panels.

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5348/30054555074_560d06e072_b.jpg)

Applied weld through primer, and test fit.

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After I drilled my holes to spot weld the panel to, I thought I should probably test fit the dash board to make sure it all fits correctly. GLAD I DID. If I wouldn't have done that the gap would have been too much on the interior where it bolts together. So if anyone is doing this for a first gen car, make sure to test fit multiple times. It took only a few extra minutes, but was worth it in the long run. Wouldn't want to re-do that.

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And where I left for the night.

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I basically need to scuff up the dash, cowl, and firewall and will spray the entire thing with SEM trim black. I was really happy with the results on my 76 T/A and it still looks great 5 years later.

Cheers,
Ryan (https://flic.kr/p/Ni7mbu)
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on November 07, 2016, 10:42:38 AM
Lots of good news with the latest progress update. After working so hard towards getting the engine to fire, I realized that my starter was junk. The solenoid stud was broken, and was no good... So after making a few phone calls my buddy had one from an LS1 that he said I could borrow until I get a new one. There were so many unknown variables about this engine, so I really wanted to verify that it was in working order before I bolted the frame down and started putting metal around it.

Here we are minutes before the first start up!

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And the moment I have been waiting anxiously for...

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https://www.flickr.com/gp/98271343@N03/A0W12C (https://www.flickr.com/gp/98271343@N03/A0W12C)

It came right to life. Notice, that I had my oil pressure gauge and HP Tuners hooked up so that I could monitor things. Thrilled that the engine came to life and that all of my wiring was correct when I repaired the harness. I made sure to log the first start up, and I was able to review the data afterwards. I didn't see anything out of the ordinary, so I feel that with the info I have it is a healthy motor. No drips, or weird sounds, and the computer data checked out. Overall it was a success and a huge motivator!

After that, I immediately tore the harness off, and packed it away in preparation for move. I'm not going to get to the wiring for a long time, so that has to go into a box for a while.

Changing gears, I had to get my firewall ready for a final coat of paint. I had to slightly enlarge the factory clutch opening to fit the 4th gen clutch hydraulic MC.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5826/30747863001_6f4cb7d7e8_b.jpg)

And with the bracket and MC in place. Everything fits like a glove.

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5701/30835759495_93e0b22185_b.jpg)

Then, I prepped the firewall for a final coat of paint. I used a product called Trim Black by Transtar, which is nearly identical to SEM Trim Black which I have used in the past. I wasn't sure how it would turn out as I haven't used that before, but I was extremely pleased with the final results.

Prepped the cowl

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After that dried, I applied a few more coats Sunday morning. This is what I found in the afternoon.

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That's all for this weekend's progress. Short and sweet. Over the next week I hope to get the car back together into a roller and bolt as many pieces on it as I can. Then it can go into temporary storage until we close on the new house. Probably won't have many updates as we will be making the house ours; paint, decorations, tables, etc. Basically earning my keep haha.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on November 11, 2016, 07:43:15 AM
Now that I know the motor runs and the firewall is painted, I feel confident that I can bolt down the frame for good! I ran out a few nights ago and put the frame under the car. I snagged a few pictures, and I'm really happy that I went with the orange block/raw head combo. Looks great to me!

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5836/30860643906_0364b8afa0_b.jpg)

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On another note, I was able to score some FREE shorty headers from the guy that I bought my 5.3 engine from. They were the ones that were on this engine when the transmission broke. The passenger side is unaffected, but the drivers side shows some carnage... I'm going to see if I can straighten out the flange on the driver's side with a press. Worst case, I can't use them and I am out no money.

Passenger side fits perfectly and clears everything.

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I didn't take any of the driver's side on the motor, but it does touch one primary tube. I think that if I can bend it slightly it would fit around the steering box.

Good

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BAD...

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All for now.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Updated71 on November 11, 2016, 07:50:45 AM
That looks like it'll be a tough one to straighten.  Is it possible to get the collector portion from whoever made the headers, cut the damaged end off and weld up the new part?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: scarebird on November 11, 2016, 12:15:42 PM
That looks like it'll be a tough one to straighten.  Is it possible to get the collector portion from whoever made the headers, cut the damaged end off and weld up the new part?

better yet, change to something like this:

(http://cdn.stangtv.com/image/2013/07/IMG_3178.jpg)

It will give you much more flexibility.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: fixitrht on November 11, 2016, 08:32:52 PM
Looks great for sure. I guess you may take a break now
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on November 14, 2016, 10:07:00 AM
Yeah the headers will be tough to figure out. If I can straighten out the flange with my uncle's press, I will assess then what I would like to do. If it doesn't work like I want, I will move on. If I can fix them, the ball flange is definitely the way to go.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on November 29, 2016, 09:58:36 AM
I have been very busy over the last few weeks prepping to move to my new house. I had a few pictures from two weeks ago, that I never posted. I have been trying to clean up the garage and since the fuel tank was now done, why not bolt it up and check fitment.

Here is the tank right before the final install. Check out the new AC Delco retaining ring.

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Everything clears and fits with no problems!

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I didn't quite realize how much stuff I had packed away in my garage, so that took quite a bit longer than I anticipated. I was able to get everything moved out, and while I was I took a picture of the garage right before I moved out my Camaro.

Hey, that kinda looks like a car!

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Cool no radiator shot.

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And, saving the best news for last. I wheeled and dealed and I am swapping my forged LS1 for paint and body work! The truck came and got my car and it is settled into the shop now. The guy doing the work just happens to be the guy that also sold it to me haha. My wife's Pa was interested in the motor so we worked out a deal. He has one other car in his shop at the moment (09 Mustang that the lady backed into something) and it should be out sometime this week. Then my car is next in line.

I decided to paint the car back to the original color, LeMans Blue. However I am opting to not reinstall the factory vinyl top. I went back and forth on the color, and keep coming back to the original color. If it was another factory color, I may have done a custom mix but I do really like the way it looks. I think if I went with the burnt orange, I may have regretted it a few years from now. The factory color will always be the factory color, Timeless.

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May have a few updates here and there, but will likely be very few in between.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on November 29, 2016, 12:25:35 PM
Awesome, I say going factory colour without the vinyl top is a good call.  I'm not just saying that either because I like teal and hate vinyl tops, well maybe I am.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: nas t eh on December 05, 2016, 01:32:14 PM
I think you're right the a factory color seams to never look out of place or dated years later. If you do a modern base coat /clear coat version those old colors really look sharp.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 06, 2017, 09:41:55 AM
After a lot of work and moving boxes, we are finally in the new house. What a relief! We ended up selling our house at the end of November, but couldn't close on our new place until 12/19/16 (coincidentally my wife's B-day). So we were in limbo for close to three weeks living out of boxes at my cousin's house. Everything worked out flawlessly, as he just had closed on the house in my town, but didn't need to move in until right before Christmas. Now that things have settled down with unpacking, painting, and making sure that each room has the perfect feng shui, I can start to focus back on my car. No updates, but here are some pictures of the new place.

The house itself is just what my wife and I wanted with the perfect location. We are so excited to have our forever home. (excuse the cliche) With plenty of rooms that will need filling.

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The house is perfectly situation so that we have both sunrises and sunsets!

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I talked with Pa, and we are going to tenatively schedule the paint day as sometime in May. He has another project currently ahead of mine, but I still need to get the car a little further along before he starts the final body work. I need to: find a passenger's side door, install the rocker panel, two small lower cowl patches, outer wheel well repair and lower quarter skin work. Sounds like a lot, but the hard stuff is behind me. Should have some more updates shortly.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Updated71 on January 06, 2017, 10:42:58 AM
Congrats!  House and location look awesome!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Elz on January 06, 2017, 11:13:38 AM
Wow! What a nice place.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on January 06, 2017, 12:01:50 PM
Some beautiful views at the new house, congrats!  Plenty of rooms that need filling...hmmm... well I can think of how to take care of three rooms right off the bat; music studio, media entertainment room, and then library and office. :P
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on January 06, 2017, 04:18:56 PM
Good one Box. Ryan, you and your wife have a beautiful home to be proud of. Congratulations. The view looks outstanding. I know the whole moving thing, living out of boxes is a major PIA, and I am sure you both could not be happier than to be settled in. Looks like a nice big garage as well. One word of advice, you better keep one bay open for the better halfs car. She wont be happy getting into a cold, ice covered vehicle first thing in the morning.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on January 06, 2017, 04:45:14 PM
What everyone else said. That is one amazing house and view. Can't believe someone could sell that. Congrats!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: tribute on January 06, 2017, 07:20:53 PM
House looks amazing.  Congratulations!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 10, 2017, 11:38:51 AM
Thanks for all of the compliments. I am really excited to be all settled in. Especially since I have a garage with heated floors to work on my car now.  :cool:

Oh, and I am sharing with the Mrs. She gets to park her car in the garage and will never have to scrap off ice again. At least not at our house.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 76455sd on January 11, 2017, 08:24:08 AM
congrats on the new house it looks great.  Best of luck to you and the family there.
I'm envious of the garage.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on January 11, 2017, 03:28:23 PM
Wow! Radiant heat in the floors is exceptional. You will learn to love that.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: hot72rod on January 18, 2017, 08:16:54 AM
Very nice.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 19, 2017, 08:11:08 AM
Well after a long hiatus, I finally have enough to progress to justify a car related update. I have been working like crazy to fund raise in order to get all of the parts that I need to get the car prepped for paint. I was searching like a mad man to find a solid passenger's side door, and I finally found one thanks to Zapper2003. I met him a few years ago at a local car show and he is also a member here. His dad is taking the doors off of his 68 Camaro and will be looking to get rid of them in the next month! Timing is everything. They are reproduction doors, but since my car is in paint and body right now, they will be perfect for me. He only wants to sell both doors, which is understandable. Here are a few of the pictures he sent me.

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That should give me enough time to install both outer wheel houses, and the passenger side rocker. Then I can be ready for the doors when he is ready to take them off his car.

I also got a great deal on a set of RS headlight assemblies and grills. I love the RS front ends. The outer grill pieces are new and the center is a good used piece. It will need a little tlc and paint, but will clean up great and none of the plastic is broken.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/539/32363712196_ff2761a23e_k.jpg)

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All for now.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 76455sd on January 19, 2017, 08:35:33 AM
nice score.  Just curious...why is he selling the doors off his car?  they look great.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on January 19, 2017, 09:29:57 AM
I'm not sure about the repo 68 doors but the early 67 had some issues with the way window channel was welded incorrectly. It is fixable though. I popped the welds on mine and massaged  the area and re-welded them. Other than that they lined up good. I see there seems to be some alignment issues on one of those doors. It could be the picture. But the the one door looks like the bottom rear of the door is kicked out.

Good score though.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Elz on January 19, 2017, 10:55:13 AM
I'm not sure about the repo 68 doors but the early 67 had some issues with the way window channel was welded incorrectly. It is fixable though. I popped the welds on mine and massaged  the area and re-welded them. Other than that they lined up good. I see there seems to be some alignment issues on one of those doors. It could be the picture. But the the one door looks like the bottom rear of the door is locked out.

Good score though.

No kidding, I still have nightmares about a 68 I restored for a guy about ten years ago. The worst were the quarters. Replaced his door skins, one was too short, also the door profile didn't follow the fender profile. Still, if they are priced right, I can't see not using them, especially when your project is labeled "penny pincher".
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 19, 2017, 02:03:51 PM
From what I understand he is selling due to fitment issues. But I believe he said that the quarters are original, so he is buying some original doors and skins to fit to his car. Since my car is already in the body work phase, I will need to fit them anyway.

You got it FormTA. Doors are priced right and I am willing to do a little massaging to get them to fit correctly. Plus, starting with a completely brand new door is always a plus.

As for the "Penny Pincher" portion of this thread, I am currently all in at just under $4,000.00 total for all parts including the purchase price of the car. I still need to buy the doors, paint and body work though. I think that if I play my cars right I will be running/driving for around between $5-6k. Lot's of wheeling and dealing as you can all imagine. But isn't that kinda the fun of it all?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Jack on January 19, 2017, 05:03:53 PM
You should at least add up your hours to get a true total. Time is not free...
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on January 19, 2017, 05:19:03 PM
If I did that, my car would have cost me like 60k to build..... ????
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 20, 2017, 06:57:07 AM
Jack, you are correct that time isn't free. Without keeping a log from the beginning there is no way for me to even start to calculate that now though. If you step back and really think about your time, it is easy to see how big shops charge big bucks for their builds!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 21, 2017, 10:11:26 PM
This update is more for my record keeping, but is an interesting update for parts swapping. I had a for sale listing for some LS1 parts that I still need, but could let go for the greater good. Only reason for selling is to fund raise to save up for paint for my car. I had a few bites for stuff. I sold my LS1 accessories and my PSI Harness and swapped ECU. When I was talking to the guy who wanted my harness and ECU, we were able to do some horse trading, and I made out pretty well. I swapped him my harness and ECU, for a stock truck harness that was converted to stand along, stock 99 LS1 ECU, LS1 Fbody pan, a Tick Clutch Master and a $100 bucks cash! It felt like a late Christmas present.

The motor the oil pan came from broke a connecting rod and blew a hole in the side of the block. Oil pan came with a pickup, pan and windage tray. The tray took some damage and the pan had one small ear broke off. Other than that, great shape.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/642/32330130041_8950e7f59c_b.jpg)

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Here's the Tick clutch master cylinder. It's made for 98-02 fbody and will bolt right up to the bracket that I bought a while back.

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(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/580/32330124601_a616a7339c_b.jpg)

And here is a partially modified truck harness and stock LS1 computer.

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With the couple of sales I made, it's going to get me that much closer to coming home from the paint shop.

Best,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on January 22, 2017, 09:32:09 AM
Wow, great progress! Chasing out the tin work is a day by day challenge. Looks like your are hot on its heels.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: duffinatur on January 22, 2017, 03:51:11 PM
Congratulations on the great looking digs!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: silver78 on January 24, 2017, 10:22:52 AM
I believe there's different tabs welded onto the front fenders for the RS headlight brackets to attach. Non RS fenders where different in that way. You may want to double check that while still in metal working phase.  Hats off to your project looking good.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 25, 2017, 01:45:47 PM
Hi Silver,

Thanks for the tip on the RS vs. non-RS fenders. Good thing about the 1st gens is there is a ton of aftermarket support. They actually make a bracket now that converts non-RS fenders to have the RS tabs.

http://www.classicindustries.com/product/camaro/parts/c450.html?gclid=Cj0KEQiAtqHEBRCNrdC6rYq9_oYBEiQAejvRl-9jxcfUVndBie3Dao15YijuxyWv_tZdSDfE5CdJezQaAjOr8P8HAQ
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 25, 2017, 01:51:59 PM
In other news, I have decided that I am going to spray my car in Plasti-dip. I am sure some will question my judgement, but the methods and techniques for application have come a long way. I am basically at a cross roads. I feel to properly do my cars restoration it needs two new full quarter panels and unfortunately I am just not in a position that I can do that and the paint.

So, rather than have the car sit around and wait for me to save up some more money, I'm going to patch up the quarter skins the best I can, spend less than $500 bucks in painting supplies and dip my car. Then I can put my money and focus into the interior and motor swap. And hopefully drive the car this summer! Then save up my money and probably next fall I can pull the car in and properly do the rear quarter panels and do a full paint job.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Picard on January 25, 2017, 02:05:43 PM
In other news, I have decided that I am going to spray my car in Plasti-dip. I am sure some will question my judgement, but the methods and techniques for application have come a long way. I am basically at a cross roads. I feel to properly do my cars restoration it needs two new full quarter panels and unfortunately I am just not in a position that I can do that and the paint.

So, rather than have the car sit around and wait for me to save up some more money, I'm going to patch up the quarter skins the best I can, spend less than $500 bucks in painting supplies and dip my car. Then I can put my money and focus into the interior and motor swap. And hopefully drive the car this summer! Then save up my money and probably next fall I can pull the car in and properly do the rear quarter panels and do a full paint job.

That's a cool idea. Seen plenty cars this side dipped and they look quite good. Another thing we see here often, probably more so that dipped, are wrapped cars. Have you considered having it wrapped over dipped?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on January 25, 2017, 04:45:10 PM
They have some pretty cool colours and options these days with Plasti-Dip, same with vinyl.  Only thing with vinyl is you really need someone to help you that has a general idea of what to do on bigger sections.  Materials wise you're about even on cost but Plasti-Dip is easier to do in general and especially by yourself.  Another thing is like paint vinyl will show imperfections since it is so thin and usually very glossy.  Personally I'm in the "dip it and drive" camp over the "wait for paint" camp, plus like you said once you're in a better position you can always do the bodywork and paint proper.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on January 25, 2017, 05:05:42 PM
This should be interesting, in a good way.

I bought a quart of PPG DCC single stage paint to start cutting in my door jams and such. It cost me $220 for one dang quart.... Can't wait to see some more progress.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 26, 2017, 09:02:40 AM
Thanks for all the comments, I am still nervous about this as I have never done anything like it before. I never really considered the vinyl wrap as it seems much more complicated to do as a project by myself. I am going to use the plasti-dip as a temporary way to get my car to look decent so I can enjoy and drive the car. Then when I save up some more money, I will do full quarter panels, filler panel, mini-tubs and a full paint job.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 30, 2017, 08:17:01 AM
I can now breath a sigh of relief as my car is back home. Now that the car is home, I can start plugging away at all those little projects that add up. Looks right at home. My little man really likes having the car home too. He keeps pointing out the motor and the tires for me, haha.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/741/32609419275_ba8d95fa94_k.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/292/32456014302_178e9fa03c_k.jpg)

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Updated71 on January 30, 2017, 08:20:51 AM
A 'car guy' in the making!  Great pic!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: JLeeAU on January 30, 2017, 08:49:13 AM
Really been enjoying watching your progress, in some way it gives me hope for my endless list of to do's with my car as well lol.  One thing I thought I might recommend, prior to dipping the car why not go ahead an spray it with epoxy primer first just for preservation sake.  I think it would make a good base for the plastidip to ride on as well.   
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 30, 2017, 09:08:30 AM
Really been enjoying watching your progress, in some way it gives me hope for my endless list of to do's with my car as well lol.  One thing I thought I might recommend, prior to dipping the car why not go ahead an spray it with epoxy primer first just for preservation sake.  I think it would make a good base for the plastidip to ride on as well.
Thanks for the kind words. You must have read my mind as that is the plan. I have a quart of epoxy primer that I am going to spray on before I dip the car. I'm hoping that over the next few weeks that I can get that done. I'm really shooting for May 1st to have the car running/driving and dipped. Lots of work, but I think I can do it.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 79anniv on January 30, 2017, 09:52:40 AM
Think I'd just go with good epoxy primer and paint it right when you get the money.

I'm guessing you will mostly keep the car inside so it can sit like that indefinitely.

SPI has a good epoxy primer that comes highly recommended from the restoration community. Check out what they have to say about SPI on hotrodders.com body/paint forums.

SPI even says you do not need to topcoat frames or anything not in direct sunlight, so you would also be fine driving it around town on weekends or whatever.

It comes in white, gray, black, or red oxide.

Its also pretty reasonably priced, like $95 for a gallon of the epoxy the same for a gallon of activator. so 2 gallons sprayable for less than $200.

Somewhere there is a video of a guy who primers about 4" squares of body metal with the epoxy and then hammer folds them in half and the epoxy isn't damaged.



Everybody raves about their clear coat as well, both its performance and price. $32 to $38 a quart for clear depending on which kind you get, and $38 a quart for activator.


They also offer paint and people seem to really like that as well, but the color selection is pretty limited. Few reds, black, white, and I think orange in bc/cc.

Little over $100 per quart, or $315 a gallon for the red and orange bases, and $66/$207 for black or white, around $40 a quart for reducer.

I don't recall any comments on their single stage, but I imagine its good stuff also, but only comes in black, white, or one red. Red is $313 a gallon, and $227 for black or white, looks like that uses the activator at 32ish a quart.


I'm not sure what it takes to dip a car, either price or labor wise, plus having to remove it again, but given the penny pinching approach doing something you have to pay for and then pay to redo doesn't seem to fit in - at least not in my opinion.


I've been reading through your post every so often as new stuff appears, so I don't recall if you have a color picked?

If it happens to be a shade SPI offers the price is pretty reasonable.

If its a different color, I imagine you will still want to epoxy prime one way or the other and the price of SPI is pretty hard to beat, I'd say impossible given the quality and it will hold up forever if you don't use the car as a daily driver, and probably quite a long time even if you do.


SPI website:
http://www.southernpolyurethanes.com/

 


 
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on February 16, 2017, 09:11:45 AM
Good to know about the SPI paint, thanks for sharing. Still unsure how I'm going to do for a top coat.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on February 16, 2017, 09:13:53 AM
So, it's been a few weeks now since my last update but I'm hoping to ramp up my progress as I made a few purchases recently. I have made the decision that I am going to do the work and get the car where it can be running/driving first before I get all of the body work done. It will be much easier to move around when it can move under it's own power.

That said, I bought everything to finish my brakes including a Wilwood combination valve with adjustable rear proportioning and NiCopp 3/16 brake lines w/ fittings. I went with the 3/16 brake lines because my goal after paint and such is to be running LS1/C6 brakes and I don't want to do it all over again when I upgrade. I also for many reasons decided to just bite the bullet and buy a Yukon Duragrip differential, 4.10 gears, and master rebuild kit for my 12 bolt. I really didn't want to spend that much on a full rebuild kit for my 12 bolt as I would like to spend it on other things, but the only option that I had without spending any money is a non-posi 3.08. With a 6th gear OD of .5, it will make that gear almost useless at a reasonable MPH.

I mocked up my booster last night with the Tick Master that I picked up and it looks like everything will live happy together.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/684/32089921034_14a3a54311_k.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2888/32118523473_099d4f212a_k.jpg)

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Zapper2003 on February 26, 2017, 07:58:15 AM
What, no pictures of your new doors?  :P


Subscribed!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on February 26, 2017, 08:13:24 AM
It's your project but I would bite the bullet and at leat epoxy everything. You could tint it so it looks like something. No matter what, you will end up stripping it off when it comes time to paint it so you could go with something cheap. At least this way it will look like a car and not a Picasso.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: strangebird on February 26, 2017, 10:02:08 AM
x2 - epoxy everything. Lay a good couple of coats on the whole car and protect it and your hard work from the elements. With filler on there it can and will soak up any kind of contaminants it comes in contact with, and that's the beginning of the end. I had to chop off the original rear quarters in part due to rust from a PO only laying filler before paint... moisture found its way and it looked like rusty wheaties. Poxy is worth it.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on February 26, 2017, 10:09:21 PM
Haha, you beat me to it. My wife had me busy today and yesterday painting again. There are only so many rooms in the house that need paint right?? Tell your dad thanks again Zach. He definitely hooked me up!

As for the plasti-dip vs. paint, I am going to be laying down the epoxy primer before I do anything. I keep going back and forth, but it's only money right...
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on February 26, 2017, 10:13:00 PM
I made a little more progress this week and weekend towards getting the brakes and clutch setup. All of the parts that I ordered for the brakes finally came in and I have started working on getting it all put together. All setup on my mobile bench ready to begin.

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The first thing that I wanted to address was the clutch bracket that I bought wasn't bent correctly. For some reason the bracket was bent at a slight angle rather than straight. I was able to take it to my uncle's house and put it in his press to bend it the way it should have been done. I suppose that is what you get for spending 35 bucks on a bracket when all the other ones are around $100 bucks.

Hard to see the angle, but it was too steep and would cause some binding.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2848/32285367783_b8437d1441_b.jpg)

Again, hard to see, but after I pressed the with the right angle it was exactly where it needed to be. You can see the line above the mounting holes where it was originally bent. One thing I was very impressed with was the powder coating didn't crack at all! I wanted to use a press rather than heat to bend the bracket to try and keep the coating, but didn't think it would be completely intact. Win!

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Now that I have the bracket at the right angle, I had to get the master cylinder rod attached to the pedal. It was about 1" too long, so I had to cut a section off of the threaded section and tap it down further. With that cut off, I have roughly 1" of adjustable.

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This is as far as I got on the clutch mods. The clutch master is finished, but now I need to weld a bracket to the pedal assembly for an adjustable stop to prevent overthrowing the clutch master.

Now to change gears, I finally got together with that guy who was selling me the pair of doors I posted about a month or so ago. I went to pick them up yesterday and when I went there I was anticipating buying the two doors, but walked away with a nearly complete interior for my car! In the boxes are a pair of new AMD doors, pair of excellent condition door panels, pair of good condition rear lower panels, two pair of a pillars; one used and one OER, used door handles, used side mirrors, pair of sail panels, and finally an ok condition OEM dash pad. Big thanks to the guy I bought them from. Huge step for me towards getting her back on the road.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2147/33099621116_f3b45f14db_b.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/640/32984004762_593d83ea2f_b.jpg)

Dash pad has a few cracks, but overall is in great condition.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/657/33099054566_fcd2aacd26_b.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2431/32324985393_f927423ff9_b.jpg)

Very productive weekend for me. I'm now at a dilemma as I have all of this blue interior, I am heavily leaning towards keeping it all blue as it would look great with the Lemans Blue paint and blue interior.

Oh and I couldn't help but get the door installed. Very happy with how it fit after working  with it for a few mins. It's going to work perfectly.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3795/33140335985_85e0c75a68_b.jpg)

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on February 27, 2017, 05:13:33 AM
Good deal! Going to be a shame to sand off the blue paint and cover it with epoxy... But sometimes you have to take a few steps back to go forward.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Zapper2003 on February 27, 2017, 06:11:35 AM
Glad it's all coming together for you, Ryan!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 01, 2017, 08:31:19 AM
Small update, but any progress is still progress. Working towards getting my brake booster together and mounted. First thing I did was drew up a template to build a simple mount my proportional valve. I wanted to have the adjustable knob be easily accessible, but not too close to the MC that it would be tough to remove if needed. I'm very happy with what I came up with. Before paint, I want to mock it up on the car and will weld a small bracket off of it to mount the fluid reservoir for my clutch. I have to have it mounted though so the bracket will sit level to the ground.

Started with new metal.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3934/32324571673_88cfd53bf6_k.jpg)

Rough cut out.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3894/32804829190_765ea14301_k.jpg)

Took measurements from the valve to get the holes in the perfect position. Then I adjusted to get the valve visually where I wanted it.

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(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2839/32804827450_f9069ab321_k.jpg)

I have had a brake line flare kit now for over a year and haven't had a chance to use it until last night. I practiced on several pieces before I felt comfortable enough to do the real deal lines. I kept getting the first flare lopsided, and couldn't figure out why. I started looking and I realized that the crimper arms were not at the same level. This was causing the crimper to tip to the one side and not have a solid press. I used my file and slightly ground off some of the material on the one side and that did the trick. Goes to show even out of the box sometimes tools need to be fixed haha.

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Next flare after fixing the crimper.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3761/33059475451_3dce208ed1_k.jpg)

Now that I have the valve in it's new home and my crimper fixed, I could start bending up lines from the MC. It took some time getting the lines to the right length and doing the tight bends, I'm very happy with the results.

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(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3841/33187483555_f7e15d3c07_k.jpg)

After creating more clearance to the clutch MC bracket, adding a clutch pedal stop, and a little paint I am ready to bolt the pedal assembly back in the car for good! Hoping to mock up the body panels later tonight as well.

All for now
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Updated71 on March 01, 2017, 08:37:32 AM
Lines look good!  I have that coming up as well.  I've been using that same proportioning valve.  Very nice piece. 
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on March 01, 2017, 08:49:00 AM
I really like that proportioning valve and your set up. Lines look great.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 01, 2017, 08:54:14 AM
Good to hear positive feedback about that prop valve. Thanks for the compliments. So far, I'm really liking the Ni-Copp lines. They flare and bend very easily.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Updated71 on March 01, 2017, 09:52:18 AM
You might not need that giant rubber plug at the end.  I believe it's only for brake lights in cars (hot rods) that aren't running a traditional switch at the pedal.  I'm planning on just cutting the terminals off flat and finding something smaller. 
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 01, 2017, 11:52:55 AM
It's funny that you mentioned something about that switch as I have been thinking about what it would take to delete it. It looks like I would be able to just remove it and put in a plug? I haven't messed with it because I wasn't sure if it had a spring or something behind it.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Updated71 on March 01, 2017, 12:07:26 PM
It's funny that you mentioned something about that switch as I have been thinking about what it would take to delete it. It looks like I would be able to just remove it and put in a plug? I haven't messed with it because I wasn't sure if it had a spring or something behind it.

I thought the same thing....possibly a spring.  I'm not sure and have never called Wilwood.  If you do find out, let me know and I'll get rid of it too.  I saw Baer recently came out with some master cylinders that have the proportioning valve built into the bottom.  I'm sure they are quite pricey. 
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Zapper2003 on March 01, 2017, 04:07:42 PM
I bought the CPP master cylinder with the built in proportioning valve. I went that route because rear discs are down the road, but I needed to retain my rear drum application until then, so this was the easiest, most cost effective solution I could come up with.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 01, 2017, 10:13:53 PM
My father-in-law stopped by tonight to give me a hand putting some panels on the car and I am stoked that the car came together so quickly! All of the panels came very close to being within specs. We are putting all of the panels on to see what we are working with. I have been talking with both him and his father "Pa", who will be both doing the work and painting my car. We are meeting up Friday to discuss a timeline to get this car painted. It may be aggressive, but they are saying that if the three of us work on it we can have it in paint in two weeks! They have much more experience with that than I do, but I'm not arguing. I'm going out of town next weekend, but if we start the following weekend that could mean out of the paint shop by the end of March.

Lots to think about, but here are some pictures.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3721/33071315081_dda937f4ca_b.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/575/32383943083_e1ce31315b_b.jpg)

And with the hood on it and cleaned up.

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(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3744/33199143765_1693493f04_b.jpg)

And one of my interior panels mocked up. I am definitely keeping the blue interior. Since I need seat covers, carpet and headliner anyway I might as well get it in blue.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3751/33199204035_43a053e633_b.jpg)

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Hutchman on March 01, 2017, 11:32:51 PM
Just read through your entire thread.  Excellent write up and project.

Did you end up with  the 5.3 and the Z06 cam?  Which heads did you end up  with.....stock 5.3?  That should make good  power and  be enjoyable to drive.

The cam in that 6L was HUGE for that motor.  It would have  been a bear to tune and a bear to drive with the 2.xx gears. But, it would have sounded killer!!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on March 02, 2017, 05:55:33 AM
Putting panels on really gets you motivated. It shows you what you have and how close you are to enjoying it. Two weeks? Man that is a marathon of a time line. The panels look good so I guess it is possible. Good luck, it looks killer.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on March 02, 2017, 05:00:21 PM
Sounds ambitious, but with 3 guys that know what theyre doing it is absolutely possible.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on March 02, 2017, 09:50:28 PM
Car looks great and seems to be coming along nicely.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: MNBob on March 03, 2017, 01:43:32 PM
Ditto.  I never saw it before, but the lines on the front end of those really give a good overall look.  It kind of a long hood shape that will be awesome when finished!  Also, I am a little late, but good work on the trunk weld job. 
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Jack on March 04, 2017, 06:16:39 AM
Looking really nice Ryan.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 06, 2017, 07:56:50 PM
Hutchman, yes motor in the car is a 5.3 with Z06 cam with the stock 706 truck heads.

Thanks for all of the compliments! I think that we are all on board with getting the car prepped and painted. We got all of the driver's side aligned tonight and hopefully Wednesday night finish it all up. If everything goes right it's going down to the paint shop next weekend and once there we should be on track for the 2 week time frame.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 08, 2017, 10:38:38 AM
Not much of a progress update, but a major visual/parts update. I have been scouring craigslist on and off now since I bought the car for a set of BMW M-Parallel wheels, since I love the way the look on muscle cars. What's not to love? They look fantastic on muscle cars, fully forged, staggered 18" 8/9.5 front and rear, and have a great offset to fit pretty well. Anyway, I found a set on Monday night and after some negotiations brought home a set that were in excellent condition with brand new rear tires for about a forth of the cost a new set of forged wheels/tires. One downside that some people may bring up is the bolt pattern difference; 5x120.65mm vs. 5x120mm. I have read up the pros and cons of that and I am not worried. I will take all the precautions necessary and purchase some hubcentric rings to be safe. I will get on that a little later. Anyway, here's the pictures.

These are right out of the truck and not even cleaned up!

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255 rear tires are about 10.5" wide!

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Rears with a 2" Lip

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And the numbers. OEM BMW wheels :)

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And the curious creature that I am, I decided to see if the Z51 brake template would work for these wheels as there wasn't any clear information it. Pleased to know that everything clears by at least 1/4", so the C5 brakes will clear no problem. I also checked that template too to verify.

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And here are some pictures on the car. The fronts fit perfectly.

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I thew 4 lug nuts on the car that are lug centric, and this is the 5th lug hole. I don't know how much closer you can get to centered than that. That sealed the deal for me that they won't give me any problems.

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With front and rear wheels on the car. Love that look! Stance will be lowered eventually but that won't be until after paint.

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Picture of the rear wheel profile with the fender. Loving that dish!

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And a rear shot.

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The rears will need a small spacer/adapter right around 3/4" to 1". With the wheels moved out 3/4" this is the inner wheel house clearance.

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Overall, I am completely stoked I found a set of wheels that were this clean and hit all of my major must haves. Big kicker for me was that they came with tires in good shape for about the same price that just the wheels were selling for.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 08, 2017, 10:57:10 AM
Oh, and the BMW hub caps will be replaced with something more appropriate. I already figured out how they come apart.

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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on March 08, 2017, 12:18:37 PM
On top of hub rings you'll also want what they call wobble nuts so then everything is able to seat properly and take up the spacing differences.  I was looking into BMW rims as well for awhile just to have something different, but then I got the sawblades.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 08, 2017, 01:15:47 PM
Box, I'm going to run the wheels straight up with regular lug centric nuts. I looked into those wobble nuts and they look less safe to me. I'm not looking to start a debate, as I have done a ton of research on the topic. Check somewhere in the middle of the group of pictures I just posted. It was perfectly centered with just using the lug centric nuts. When .65mm converted to inches is .026", then spread across two lugs is .013". Put that on a dial caliper or micrometer and it is incredibly small. I'm going to run them as is.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on March 08, 2017, 04:10:28 PM
I did lots of research too which I why I just ultimately went with the sawblades to make life easy, since I want to autocross and do HPDE events with the car.  Most have had no problems using 120.65mm with just hub rings, but some have managed to shear lugs though user error is always an option.  Though from the one picture I somehow missed earlier yours look more centered than any of the pictures I saw on the topic, but I was looking specifically at fourth gens.  You should be fine with just hub rings and conical seat lug nuts.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: MD79TA on March 10, 2017, 08:57:02 PM
Those wheels look awesome! Nice Work!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: pontiacstogo on March 11, 2017, 05:20:06 AM
Oh, and the BMW hub caps will be replaced with something more appropriate. I already figured out how they come apart.

This place can make you up a set of replacement cap decals in any diameter/style you want;

http://3dcarstickers.com/en/
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: jonathonar89 on March 11, 2017, 10:15:19 AM
Good stuff Ryan.  I was skeptical about the look of the BMW wheels but they look good now that I see them mounted on the car.

Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on March 11, 2017, 11:54:30 AM
Totally digging the wheels!!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 11, 2017, 10:47:05 PM
Thanks for all of the compliments on the wheels! I'm still shocked that I actually found a set in as good of condition that I did. I was actually looking at another set that were in Florida and pricing out what the shipping costs were going to be. These came in at the last minute and I scooped them up.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on March 14, 2017, 07:26:23 PM
The Parallel was the set I was looking at on top of another set off a M, but they're hard to find in good shape where they don't want an arm or leg in exchange.  I like them, it's something different that looks good.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Zapper2003 on March 15, 2017, 02:46:08 PM
Get yourself dug out yet, Ryan? This sure is some storm.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 17, 2017, 09:17:41 AM
I'm still working on it at my place. It's funny you mention that because I was actually out of town at a conference for work in all places sunny San Diego, CA. The day before I left it was 81 and sunny! My flights were cancelled due to the weather, so I was stranded in San Diego for an extra day. It was absolutely terrible let me tell you. :cool:

Left this.

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I came home to this!

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And then yesterday I took the day off to fix my rusted brake line so that I could plow my driveway.

Found the culprit.

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I finally got a chance to use my home made brake line straightener. Worked pretty darn good!

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Once the line was replaced, I thought I was in the home stretch...WRONG. Both bleeders are frozen tight in the calipers. I'm going to try a technique to loosen them up first, but it's pretty likely they will need to be replaced.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on March 17, 2017, 02:46:40 PM
Looks like you were roughing it. I also got snowed in one time at an airport, only it was Chicago!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 18, 2017, 09:28:07 PM
I finally have enough substance to have a new post. I am working on getting the final bits in order to do a final installation of all of my body panels. Once we are all satisfied with the fitment, we will do the install of the rocker panels, then blow it all apart for paint! Very exciting. Here are a few pictures of the fender brackets to convert to RS.

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I also scored these brake parts. They are freshly powder coated C5 Calipers, abutments, Kore3 adapter brackets and conversion brake lines. Only things that I am missing is rotors, pads and having the hubs turned down. I can't wait to get everything cleaned up and seeing what they look like behind the M Parallel wheels!

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And test fit on my spare drum brake spindles. Fits perfectly.

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All for now. Keeping my eyes open for a cheap set of C5 rotors and pads. I have all of the components to do add the LS1 rear brakes to my 12 bolt too. Pretty tried and true brake setup.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on March 19, 2017, 12:53:33 PM
How do you like the Kore3 brackets from a machining quality standpoint?  I've been looking into doing the C5 conversion myself on the '96 and the Kore3 were the least expensive adapter bracket, logic dictates a bracket is a bracket so it shouldn't have to be super expensive to be a quality piece but it is a good bit less than all the others I came across.  Also as far as rotors go I was going to use Centric Cryogenic/High Carbon blanks and for pads Raybestos EHT, rotors are around $50 ea and the pair of pads is like $60.  I've read a lot of good things about those rotors and pads from those that do autocross, and the rotors for HPDE even.  The pads aren't up to intense HPDE but they perform great for autocross and daily driver use, unlike some other performance pads they don't have to be warmed up before they bite well.  Most will run EHT all around and then swap to a track pad of their choice on the front like EBC Orangestuff or whatever.  At any rate was just and idea since you said you were looking for something inexpensive but still good.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 21, 2017, 06:34:30 AM
Hi Box, Sorry for the late reply. The only experience that I have with their products are these parts and I feel that they are top notch. From a machining point, they seemed to be spot on and the parts were very well done. I like that they have been zinc coated for longevity. I know that many people swear by the company and they have an excellent track record. Once I get some rotors and pads, I will have everything I need to install them and will give more feedback at that point.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 24, 2017, 07:24:36 PM
Not a huge update, but one that may be useful to someone else down the road. If you remember back a few pages in my build thread, I got a set of free headers from the guy I bought my engine from. They were damaged from an exploded clutch when it let loose. Anyway the flange was pretty badly bent and the collector was beaten and torn. Well with all of the money that is flying out of my wallet recently, a set of swap headers is way out of my budget. So I got creative and gave some thought to possibly straightening the flange out. I figure if I can get it close, I can send it out to be be machined flat again.

Here's what I started with.

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I first attempted to use my Pa's 30 ton press to straighten it out. It did work to get some of the bend out, but the flange was still off by 1/2". After thinking about it for a while, I decided to bolt the flange to one of my stock manifolds and bend it using my bench vice. It's already bent so I can't make it any worse right?? I used 4 bolts and oversized nuts that were the same size, in order to keep a consistent distance between the good flange and the one that needed to be re-bent. It worked like a charm!

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I tipped it up and pinched the ends of the flanges in the vice grip slowly and kept bending and re-checking after every bend. After about 20 mines of this is what I ended with. I'm within about a 1/16".

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I'm pretty stoked to be that close for not too much work! I bought a 2.5" V band clamp from eBay and will cut off the mangled flange and weld that on. Then I still need to address the slight bend I need to make with my first primary tube and the steering box.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: jonathonar89 on March 24, 2017, 09:23:00 PM
Awesome stuff right there Ryan!  Getting it machined flat and port matching will more than likely make the header better than new.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 27, 2017, 07:17:54 PM
Ever since I moved into the new house, I wasn't sure what I would do with my welding and grinding. I contemplated doing it in the new garage attached to the house, but the more I think about it, the worse it sounds. I don't want to stink up the garage and house, so I decided to convert my heated shed into a Fab Shop. Then I can do all of my welding/grinding/dirty stuff in that area and all the clean stuff like wiring/wrenching in the attached garage. Unfortunately the Fab Shop is only 10'x10'. When I get done with the expansions, it should basically be 4x that size.

Current state. It's a little cramped, but it's warm and dry. I can't complain, just an adjustment from what I had.

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Since I posted up where I successfully fixed the header flange on those headers, I can now post up the epic fail on my modification of the stock manifold. This is what happens when you heat up and lightly tap on cast iron. My intentions were to put a "dent" in the manifolds like what you would do with headers. Well not so much...

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3844/33649723526_6da051de96_b.jpg)

Sometimes you have to post the fails I suppose. So my next trick is to modify the primary tube, but I want to be different. I read a tip somewhere that people use when doing roll cages, where the tubes can be filled with sand, heated up and bent. The sand keeps the "mandrel" so that the tube doesn't collapse. We will see if it works. I bought an expandable plug and a rod to hold it in place.

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Once I moved my welder to the fab shop, I felt much more at home. I am able to weld and grind without worrying. I continued to modify the brake proportional valve to also hold the clutch reservoir. I'm very pleased with the way it turned out. It's all painted, but didn't get a final picture.

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After fitting the body panels, the header panel that came with the car was tweaked in too many places. I got the reproduction AMD header panel with new tooling. It bolted up and fits much better than the one I had.

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I also bought a bunch of much needed small parts. Some hood adjusters, RS Bezel (didn't fit), 1" wheel adapters, and C5 brake pads.

I was very impressed with the wheel adapters. They are a simple 1" adapter with hubcentric ring. They look extremely well made and top quality machining. They also use 7/16 wheel studs.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2859/33561273181_33c51a5252_b.jpg)

I also got some brake pads from Tommy Boy. haha.

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I am still waiting on a few other parts, but I will save those bargains for another day.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: jonathonar89 on March 27, 2017, 07:22:56 PM
Callahan...someone came into my work with a Callahan shirt just now haha.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 29, 2017, 07:19:11 AM
And the last parts to come in were some plastic clips for the RS headlights and my bargain of the week. I was scouring the internet for a cheap set of rotors for the front of my car to complete the C5 brake upgrade. After searching all around for the C5 rotors without much luck, I decided to see what the C6 rotors were going for. I stumbled on a closeout deal on eBay for this set of front drilled and slotted rotors for $19.26 with free shipping! After researching around on the Corvette forums, the rotors appear to be interchangeable. At that price, I didn't think I could go wrong. I don't know how they made any profits at that price point. The box was 44lbs! I can't wait to bolt them up. Just need to find a place to turn down my hubs.

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Pretty stoked to have the last parts to complete my big brake swap.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: jonathonar89 on March 29, 2017, 12:25:33 PM
That is freakin awesome on pricing.  I wouldn't brag about the weight though haha
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 31, 2017, 07:36:45 AM
Thought I would post an update that I thought was pretty funny. I went to check and see if the pricing on the rotors was still at $19.26, and it looks like someone made an error and the price is now back up to $76 bucks. Looks like I bought them just in time :cool:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on March 31, 2017, 02:23:18 PM
Thought I would post an update that I thought was pretty funny. I went to check and see if the pricing on the rotors was still at $19.26, and it looks like someone made an error and the price is now back up to $76 bucks. Looks like I bought them just in time :cool:
Have to love errors in your favour, it's how I got my $250 GM water pump for $80. :lol:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 03, 2017, 07:36:02 AM
My wife took took a short trip with her grandmother and sister to a store for a half day trip which gave me some time out in the garage to get some work done on the Camaro. I'm sure that this happens to many people, but I sometimes get side tracked with many projects as there are many things that need to get done all at once. As my head was spinning with which direction to go, I realized that it was more important to get the RS front end buttoned up and the fenders modified before I did anything else. Once I got working on fitting the front end, it actually started to go quite quickly. Since the fenders are different, I had to start with fitting the conversion brackets for final welding. It took me a little bit to accumulate all of the little parts needed for final fitment of the grill.

Before I could start fitting anything I had to make sure that the parts I had were in good shape. The lower grill section was bent up, so a replacement was ordered along with a new pair of bezels and mounting hardware. On the fenders, I had to start by bending the standard mounting tabs up and back to be horizontal. Then I could use that for a spot to attach the conversion bracket.

Not the best picture, but if you look at the passenger fender you can see the tabs before I cut and bent them.

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Couldn't really get a good picture of what I was fitting the bezel and brackets to the fenders, but it was a lot of clamping with vice grips and then fitting the bezel. Re-position and try again. Once I was happy with the fitment, I tack welded, fit and re-positioned if necessary.

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Once I was happy with the fitment, I repeated the process on the other side. Overall it was actually much easier than I made it out to be in my head. The key is making sure that the bezels fit correctly and you have all of the parts.

Here are the doors opened and shut.

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Please excuse the upper grill trim as it is original with some paint flaking off. It will be refinished and polished before final assembly. Also, the driver's side headlight assembly needs to be re-positioned to sit lower as the doors sit a little high. I went a little crazy with the pictures.

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poor attempt at being artistic, haha

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Very happy with the results this weekend. That was the last body modification that I can do in my home shop. Camaro will be making it's way down to the shop where it will be painted in the very near future. From there if we can keep that initial schedule, it should be just a couple weeks and it will be in paint!

Also did a little wheeling and dealing with a buddy and I will do some work for him in exchange for some 1.5" Hotchkis lowering springs. Win.

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All for now,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on April 03, 2017, 07:49:57 AM
I love the rs front ends on these cars. Good job with the modification.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on April 03, 2017, 11:59:10 AM
I love the rs front ends on these cars. Good job with the modification.
Ditto, hideaway and popup lights are the coolest thing ever.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 12, 2017, 06:30:30 AM
I have been busy working towards getting my car to the body shop. Not much progress that can be captured in a photo, as it is a lot of body panel tweaking and stripping the car of anything I don't want over spray on. Thought I would post up a few random photos I thought would be worth sharing.

Doing some yard-work on a warm streak we had and looked up my driveway. Thought it was a cool pic.

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I have been itching to put on the "rally-sport" emblems I bought a while ago and after much research on the internet, I decided to just put them where I thought they looked best. I think it came our really well.

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And I finally found a guy local to me who was able to machine my hubs. He did a completely spot on job and got exactly what I wanted. He even added in the beveled edge just like I requested. They just need a little love with the bead blaster, new bearings and new wheel studs.

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Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 21, 2017, 06:20:12 AM
I'm getting to the point now where I am making all of the final body modifications before I take the car down to the body shop to start working towards paint. I'm going for the RS look, so I found some templates online and made the decision to go for it with the reverse lights. I picked up a set of 67 RS Camaro tail lights and reverse lights last year at Spring Carlisle and I'm finally able to use them!

I couldn't find anyone with measurements from an original RS Camaro, so I found a template, blew it up on Word, made sure the template as the same dimensions from the template, and printed them off. They worked really well.

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And the holes cut. I used a 1 3/4" hole saw for the big holes.

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First one side then the other

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And the final product! Didn't take a really long time, but it's important to take your time and get it right the first time around. I cut the holes smaller and filed them away slowly to make sure they were centered and square.

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Very excited as the car is getting so close now.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on April 21, 2017, 06:51:56 AM
If you took that big comfy chair out of your garage you might get some more work done! lol.  Coming along nicely, I enjoy watching your work. You do good. I got my license when I was in 10th grade, I had a buddy who was selling a 67 rs/ss convertible. White with a gold nose stripe. It was original immaculate condition (this was 1980). He wanted 2500, I had about 1000 and begged pop for the rest. He told me no old car is worth near that much. Needless to say it went to a different home.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on April 21, 2017, 02:31:01 PM
Good job on the tail light swap, looks much better! :cool:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: LeighP on April 22, 2017, 09:22:21 AM
Just had a chance to read the whole thread......thats some work you're doing......going to be an awesome ride when it's done.
I recall how your 76 turned out, I've no doubt this one will raise the bar. :)
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: duffinatur on April 22, 2017, 10:36:26 PM
Nice work, Ryan! I've been following your progress and think you do quality stuff.
Duff
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 24, 2017, 09:51:58 AM
Thanks for all of the compliments guys! Leigh, good to hear from you. I lost track of TAC for a while and when I came back I saw where you had sold your car too. I think we have a disease where we build cars from wrecks and make them beautiful cars, then sell them.  :lol:

And Roadking, I keep that comfy chair in there for the creative process haha.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 24, 2017, 09:52:45 AM
Again it seems like I don't have much of a progress update, but more of a parts gathering update. It's making my wallet pretty empty these days... Anyway I made the annual trip with my Dad to the Spring Carlisle show in Carlisle, PA to look for some parts. We hit the road at 3:30am and got home at 10pm. And it's about 4 hours drive time one way. Makes for a long day, but is totally worth it.

I was extremely happy that I found many of the RS parts that I was looking for. I ended up finding most from one guy who parted out a 1968 RS/Z-28 that was a green with Turqouise interior. I bet it was a pretty rare car. I forgot to ask the guy if he kept the vin and trim tags...

I already had a pair of reverse lights from last year, but the driver's side was busted. This one has overspray, but will clean up nicely.

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He also had cut out a section of fender from the original car. Now I can take measurements from it to verify if I did mine correctly. Pretty cool and he threw it in for free.

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Since I had the front parking lights, I needed the front valance panel too. There were several vendors there that offered these as they are mass produced. I got a show price for $10 off of the cheapest shipped price I could find online. Not bad.

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I got a nice score too on an RS hood latch. They reproduce them, but if I can I like to get the OEM parts. And no I didn't pay $65, refer back to the project title.

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I saved the best for last. I have really been wanting an RS front grill emblem, and found one place that had one. It is in great shape considering the age. I need to polish it up a little more and then it will be nearly perfect.

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I couldn't help myself when I got home to take a picture with the emblem.

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The other parts that I scored were both free. I am a little shocked, because I haven't seen it before but vendors were leaving parts behind after they departed from the show? We asked the other vendors around them and they said that they left and it's free for the taking.

I really wanted the DIC (Driver Information Center) option on my truck when I got it, but it didn't have it. After reading some articles it looks like you can do the install pretty easily. The wheel should clean up nicely.

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I also picked up a cool jig for a hand drill to clamp it down to use it like a drill press.

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Then yesterday afternoon the stars aligned and I was able to get an hour uninterrupted in the garage. Of course I wanted to start bolting down my new toys. I started by putting in the new hood latch and valance panel. The hood latch fits perfectly, and slid right in. The lower valance will need a little work to fit perfectly, but all the aftermarket pieces need a little tweaking. Overall great.

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Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on April 24, 2017, 02:38:54 PM
Good Score! Carlisle is a nice place to visit. Sorry I missed again. I have never been there on the closing day, but I guess some guys figure its cheaper to leave stuff behind than drag it back home.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Zapper2003 on April 24, 2017, 06:03:51 PM
I go to GM Carlisle every year and spend the weekend. Never have I seen anyone leave stuff behind. Interesting. I might have to stick around a bit longer on Sunday this year.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on April 24, 2017, 08:13:13 PM
Looks great Ryan! I love the rs look.

I have been a vendor at a few places. I have given stuff away at the end that I just don't want to drag around anymore.  A windshield for a fourth gen Firebird, some seats from a second gen, a hood and other miscellaneous parts.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: LeighP on April 25, 2017, 04:01:07 AM
Scored well. :)
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 25, 2017, 05:42:21 AM
That's the thing that surprised my Dad and I, we were finding these piles of parts at around noon on Saturday. We ended up leaving around 4 because so many vendors were leaving at that point. It was overcast with scattered showers, but it has been like that before and I don't recall any kind of mass exit. Very strange.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: jonathonar89 on April 25, 2017, 06:00:27 PM
You overly impress me every time...good stuff with the steering wheel
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: TransAmMan on April 28, 2017, 02:37:27 PM
You are doing an amazing job on that car!  Wow!!  Can not wait to see the finished product
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 15, 2017, 01:19:14 PM
It's been a few weeks since I have made any progress on my Camaro because life has gotten in the way. One of the biggest hurdles for me recently has been that my neighbor is building a house and offered to give me a ton of free fire wood. Since we have an outdoor wood boiler it is going to be a huge cost savings for us. I estimate that we will actually have enough wood to get us through the winter, for just my time and efforts. NICE!

This was a few weeks ago, and now have about a 1/3 more wood. Still have about 18 more full trees to chop up.

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My freebie Poulan Pro saw wasn't up to the task. Had to upgrade to a big boy. Night and day difference.

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Not a Camaro updated, but car related. I took a few hours a few weeks ago to swap out the steering wheel and harness for the freebie I snagged at Spring Carlisle. Dead ringer for the color match.

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Just need to reflash my cluster for the DIC and buy a steering wheel wiring adapter for my aftermarket radio. Sweet!

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Back to the Camaro. I have been gathering parts slowly for the C5 brake upgrade, and when I had the rotors turned down I thought to myself, "Now would be a great time to swap out those 1/2" ARP wheel studs you have had for 4 years now". Well that was fine and dandy, but after I drilled them out I realized the head of the ARP studs were too large for the machined back side of the hub. So, I contacted the same guy who did the initial machining and told him my situation. I didn't exactly know how to explain it to him, but he told me I need to enlarge the machined face and do what's called a spot face. Thought that was a cool tid bit of machining lingo I would pass on. Anyway, here are the progress pics.

I aligned the drill press with a smaller bit to center the lug hole, before I chucked up the 39/64" bit. Worked perfectly.

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And after.

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I ordered some new Timkin bearings and seals for the hubs, and now I need the find the time to get them blasted and painted.

Now this brings me to this past weekend where I have ventured into new territory. I am attempting to set up my own rear gears for the 12 bolt I will be putting in the car. I bought a brand new Yukon Duragrip rebuild kit from Ron's Machine Shop on eBay that came with Excel gears and Timkin bearings. Luckily I have access to a press, and was able to remove the old bearing from the pinion to get me the original shim. I also was able to press on the new carrier bearings, no pictures though.

I measured with my caliper and documenting just for fun as I'm re-using the original shim.

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Looks like .031" to me, but again I'm reusing it so I don't need to find a new one the same size. As long as the pattern comes out right that is.

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That's as far as I got before my little guy got up and wanted to play. Saved the best picture for last!

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I'm hoping to get out to the garage this week to get the 12 bolt power washed and prepped. I want to try and rent the tool to install the bearing races once and do both the hubs and the rear end at the same time.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on May 15, 2017, 07:13:58 PM
I like that last picture. I have a 5 yo, he hates noise. whenever "we" work in the shop or yard he wears an old pair of ear protectors I have. Last weekend he said, "he wanted the pair that the radio works this time".
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 22, 2017, 08:46:41 AM
I didn't make as much progress as I hoped this weekend, but still something to show for it. My dad has a nice little blasting cabinet at his house, so I stopped over there to get my completed hubs blasted. They came out great, and just hit them with a little primer and paint. Now I just need to press on the wheel studs and that will be a done deal.

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I finally received the new Timken bearings and seals for the hubs. I figured while I was this far, I might as well get the good ones. Once the paint is fully cured, I will tap in the races. Part numbers are below for those interested.

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While I had the power washer out for the house, I pulled my axle housing outside for a bath. I soaked it in purple power, let it sit, and blasted it. It came out nice, but did have some rusty spots that need some attention. Nothing of concern, but need to be addressed before a final install. I also discovered a broken cover bolt. Have to get that out before I do my final install.

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I also bought all new bearings for it as well. My carrier and pinion bearings were part of a kit I bought from Ron's Machine Shop online, and were all Timken. The axle bearings and seals are below, with the part numbers if anyone is interested.

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I usually don't post a tool update, but this was worth noting. A few years ago when I needed to pull the old bearings from my Trans Am, I simply went to AutoZone and rented the bearing tool and slide hammer. But apparently they are no longer renting those out, so I had to find another way. Did a little research online, and found out that Harbor Freight sells them for $29.99. With the 20% coupon, it came out cheap enough to justify buying. For the few times that I have needed it, I can just throw it in the tool box. I still needed to rent the slide hammer, but the bearing puller threads on with no problem. I got some cheap or free tools that may come in handy.

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All for now.
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: MNBob on May 24, 2017, 06:57:00 AM
I would recommend bringing that axle housing to get blasted.  The blasting removes all of the rust and is a lot easier than wire wheeling it yourself.  In an incredible deal, I got the housing blasted and the tubes welded for $55.

The axle bearing puller is good for that price.  I got one with a puller at OReilly when I had to remove one.  I hope they don't discontinue their free tool loan program as well.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 07, 2017, 07:01:04 AM
After a brief moment of weakness, where I considered selling the car I'm back at it. I am trying to get the rear differential mini-build wrapped up so I can hopefully get it swapped under the car soon. I started by putting the ring gear on the differential. I pressed on the bearings about a month ago, so I was all set for the first test fit. I have never done this before, but it was a PITA to hold the diff with one hand and torque the bolts with the other. I found that if it was positioned like this, I was able to get enough leverage to click the wrench.

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Once I got the shims set for the right amount of pre-load on the carrier bearings, I worked on getting the right setting for backlash.

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The instructions for the Richmond gears called for between .007-.009 of backlash. After a few different shim packs, I came up with exactly .009.

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Now it was time for the deciding moment of whether or not I did everything correctly. I think that I am close, but from what I can tell I may need a slight bit (+.005) more pinion shims. I took a picture of both the accel and coast side of the ring gear. Anyone with more knowledge than myself care to comment?

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Thanks,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 12, 2017, 12:05:38 PM
I got a little time this weekend to tinker around during nap time. I was struggling with what to do on my hubs since I realized that the knurl length on my ARP 1/2" wheel studs @ .400" plus a tall chamfer stuck too far into the hub surface to have the rotor sit flush with the hub. Since I already over-bored the holes to 39/64 in preparation for the .625" knurl ARP studs I had to find another set that would work. I did some researching and found that the Moser 8010 wheel studs had the right knurl diameter and a length of .375", so with a small spacer (.050)they would work perfectly. There is actually a small chamfer on the back side of the rotor, so the slight amount that is sticking out is not an issue.

Difference between ARP 7703 and Moser 8010 1/2" wheel studs.

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Spacers I had to machine.

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Chamfer on the back side of rotor.

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And after a long time, here is the final machined hub. Fresh 1/2" studs, new Timken bearings and fresh paint ready for install.

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Couldn't help it, but threw the rotor and hub together and bolted to the wheels. I like the way that looks!!

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It was hard to get a good picture, but the lug is still nice and centered in the wheel.

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Nice to actually cross something off my list!

All for now,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on June 12, 2017, 05:01:00 PM
Sweet! It's all this little stuff that qualifies you (us) as a car builder.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 16, 2017, 08:43:09 AM
Took the day off of work yesterday to get some errands done, and when that was done I finally got the rear end prepped and painted. I had to weld on one of the tabs for the rear brakes and ready for paint. Once it dries, I can do a final reassemble and put it under the car with the Hotchkis drop springs and new hardware.

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And with some fresh paint.

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Hope to reinstall the gears, seals, and do a final install this weekend. Time will tell.

Thanks,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 22, 2017, 01:27:28 PM
Quick update, but an important personal milestone. I was able to put the final touches on the rear gear install on my 12 bolt. Not really any pictures for the update, just one showing the completely assembled rear. One thing that I wanted to mention for those that may attempt to assemble their own differentials, that it really wasn't that difficult. The biggest problem that I had was not having the right tools when I needed them. I had to have a 6 point 1 1/8" socket, dial gauge with magnetic base and in.-lb. torque wrench. Everything else was either included in the rebuild kit that I bought or simple hand tools. The biggest obstacle that I had to overcome was crushing the crush sleeve. It took way more effort to crush it that I realized. I didn't have a large enough compressor and impact gun to torque it properly, so I used leverage and some manual force. I ended up ruining the first crush sleeve as I over tightened it, which was surprisingly easy to do... And once they are over tightened they are junk. Biggest thing is just take your time, read the instructions and watch a few youtube vids. Lots of helpful info out there.

Anyway here is the completely assembled rear. Need to get a cover with a girdle, install axle bearins & seals, and reinstall the axles. Then I will be ready to swap out the 8.2.

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Also, a nifty trick for anyone that needs to convert 1/2" socket to 1/4" torque wrench. I used my shop vice and pressed in a 1/4" socket into a 1/2"-3/8" adapter and it worked perfectly. Just need to dab a spot weld or two and it will work perfectly.

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All for now. Should have a few more updates once a few more parts come in.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: LeighP on July 01, 2017, 05:08:51 AM
Coming along well.  8)
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on July 05, 2017, 12:49:39 PM
Thought I would update my thread as I was able to get a good amount done on the car over my long holiday break. I was able to sneak into the garage more than a few times during nap-time and after everyone went to bed. I have been working hard to wrap up the rebuild on my rear end. I would be done if I could use brand new parts, but with most of the parts being used, I have to clean and paint them before installing. First big step towards the LS1 rear disk brake swap was welding the tabs onto the rear end for the disk brake lines. But before I could weld the tabs on I needed brake hoses, so I finally made the call to Kore3 to get a complete rear brake line kit from them. Top notch quality and service, plus they match my front lines and brackets.

Lines and hardware as I got them.

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Quick test fit, and they look great!

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I welded the tabs last week and forgot to get pictures of the tabs after I welded and put touch up paint on the housing. Next step was to modify my moser c-clip eliminators to work as a spacer for the brake swap.

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Took a while to trim them to fit, but they work perfectly to get me in the ball park.

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Next up was test fitting the freshly blasted and painted rear brakes. (other than the rotors)

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Looks like I will need one small shim to get it centered on the rotor.

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All together, and it looks great! I need to find one dust shield for the right side and I can button up the rear brakes!

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I threw some paint on an old cover until I save up more for a stud girdle.

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Next on my list was fabricating a pedal stop for my clutch master cylinder. I am using a slightly modified 98-02 Tick clutch master cylinder (shortened the rod by ~1"), and don't want to ruin it. I bolted the adapter bracket I bought on eBay a while ago directly to the clutch pedal assembly and was able to put it on my bench to get the throw and adjustments spot on. By doing it outside of the car, I think you get a much better result.

Here is my cardboard template after trimming and fitting to my satisfaction.

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Tacked and welded in place. Not my best welds, but then again I was welding while laying on the ground. Solid penetration none the less.

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Needed a gusset now.

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And with paint!

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Very happy with the results, and now I have full adjustablility on where the clutch comes on and where the clutch will stop as well. Once I figure out the neutral safety switch, it will be good to reinstall.

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Also, a small parts update. I scored a great price on a set of accessory brackets on PT, thanks BuddyP! I already have a good alternator and water pump, so with these brackets I will only need a power steering pump.

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Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: scarebird on July 05, 2017, 03:04:17 PM
did you leave enough slop in the flex line so you can change pads without removing the hose?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on July 07, 2017, 09:55:36 AM
Thanks Leigh!

Scarebird, Yes I have plenty of room to remove the calipers without disconnecting the line. Thanks for the heads up, as it made me go out and check. :cool:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on July 10, 2017, 08:08:14 AM
Been making a lot of progress lately, and it is really nice bolting clean parts back onto the car for a change! Now, I can finally stop posting pictures of the boring 12 bolt rebuild! Time for some finishing touches and installation pictures.

I needed to get a bracket for the center brake line, and rather than paying around $30 bucks for a new or used one I just modified the stock one that I had.

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And done minus paint. Came out pretty good in my book.

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Once I had my bracket built and installed, I could bend up and flare my NiCopp brakelines and get that squared away. I think it turned out pretty symmetrical. Side note, NiCopp lines are so easy to work with. They bend and flare so easily, glad I went in this direction.

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Took another trip to my Dad's house and used his bead blaster again for the wheel studs, front brake line brackets and hardware. It does such a nice job and is very quick. Glad my parents only live 5 mins away now!

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I used my bench vice and a large socket to press on these new studs. I got this axle from a friend and he wasn't sure of the brand and it has no markings. If anyone can tell from looking at it, please send me a message as I would like to get a matching axle for the driver's side.

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And finally, a complete rear axle with LS1 rear disk brakes! Still need to do a once over on all the bolts and hoses, then fill with fluid. For now though, this things is getting installed!

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I ended up finding some 1/2" U-bolts at Advance Auto recently and thought it was a pretty good price for $22 bucks. They need to be cut as they are for a lift kit on a rear axle, but I can do that no problem. I also realized I had to drill out my shock plates for the 1/2" bolts. Came together pretty nicely though!

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Now that the rear is in, I needed to see if that wheel spacer was going to do the trick and get these M-Parallel wheels to fit right. I must have done something right because my measurements were right on and they fit perfectly! Need to get some 285 rear tires now.

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Definitely need some new rotors!

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Once it is at full weight I think the rear will settle down a little, but I'm really digging the wheels and stance.

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Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: MNBob on July 15, 2017, 11:02:11 AM
Nice work, you are making progress.  It is a lot of the same steps I went through three years ago with the Blazer disks and a new pinion seal.  I don't think I will ever set up gears like you did though.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on July 17, 2017, 09:49:30 AM
Now that the rear was in for good, I could focus on something new for a change. I decided to work on the brake lines and started bending up the rear lines. I will say it again, the NiCopp lines are very easy to work with. I don't think there is a wrong way to approach it, but I decided to work from the rear towards the booster. I used a few reference pictures from online to come up with my design.

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I finalized my longest piece and I am very happy with the results. I need to find all the clips and brackets to hold up the rear lines, but they are all bent and connected.

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Next I worked on the master to passenger side line.

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Then the Driver's side. After reading around on the net as to why the factory put in the "loops" I felt that I didn't need those because my chassis won't flex as much with the solid body mounts. I am really happy with how symmetrical they came out. Also a good shot of the tick clutch master cylinder.

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I was careful to not make excess cuts so I could try and use only one 25 foot roll of the lines and ended up with just this left over. Cut it pretty close.

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Since I have a brake switch inside my car, I don't need the pressure switch that was provided on Wilwood proportional valve. So I decided to remove it and plug it off. There aren't any springs, or anything weird behind it. Just the switch shown.

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All for now,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on July 17, 2017, 10:03:08 AM
Had too many pictures from this weekend, so I had to break it up into two posts. I kept going with my brake upgrades, and FINALLY get to install my front big brake C5 kit. All of the conversion parts are from Kore3 and the calipers are powder coated stock Corvette calipers and brackets. The teardown.

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It feels great to bolt on new parts for a change!

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I have been patiently waiting for this moment for months, but I am finally able to bolt down my wheels and big brakes!

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Plenty of clearance everywhere.

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Changing gears now, I wanted to find a solution to my broken hood latch spring and ended up finding that a spare piece of brake line did the trick.

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Then, I picked up a set of 67 RS turning signals and I'm debating on which to run. With or without the trim rings. I'm really leaning towards the 67 as I like how it matches the RS headlight bezels.

1968

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or 1967

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Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on July 17, 2017, 06:23:04 PM
I'll say the '68, the '67 is just too much in my opinion and draws attention down away from the grille which is the focal point of the car's front end.

Though with the bumper in place and it all put together I might change my mind, since the bumper would break it up.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 02, 2017, 12:22:48 PM
It's been a couple weeks since my last update, but I have been keeping busy. I usually don't like to be working on so many mini-projects all at the same time on my car, but waiting for parts and supplies will do that. After I received the caliper rebuild kit, I was finally able to wrap up the front brakes completely with it bolted down for good. Complete with brake pads and Kore3 lines. And just one more shot of my wheels and brakes. Very happy with the fitment and look.

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Since I am also doing the LS1 rear brake upgrade at the same time, I needed to have my calipers match. The front's are powdercoated a wrinkle satan black and I am not ready to have the rear's powdercoated yet. I opted for a satan caliper paint instead. I think that they come very close to matching side by side, so when they are ten feet apart no one will notice.

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When I was installing my Callahan brake pads, I was a little disappointed that they weren't manufactured in Sandusky, OH... (Tommy Boy reference for the younger folks)

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I also put my nasty rotors in the bead blaster and put a few coats of the satan black caliper paint on them. Turned out better than I expected and will get me by for a few summers.

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I have also been thinking about what to do with my header situation. I really can't buy a set of $700-900 headers right now, so I have to work with what I have. I decided to finally pull the trigger and see if I could get that header bent up. I have pictures earlier in my build where I filled the header with sand in an attempt to keep the header tube more intact. It didn't keep the integrity of the tube like I was hoping, but I do feel that it didn't distort the tube as badly as it would have if it wasn't filled with sand. Anyway here is the shot after a little love.

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Now, I know that the header will physically fit in the engine bay without interfering with the box. Success! Well partially that is. If you notice that the flange isn't completely tight against the cylinder head at #7. So after lots of thinking I came up with a plan to grind it flat. I have a nice flat piece of concrete outside of my shed, and what I did was used my experience with body work to essentially score the flange surface to find any high spots. Then slowly and carefully with a grinder, grind down the high spots and eventually get to a surface that would be close enough to be sealed by a gasket. I shot a little spray paint on the gasket surface for more transparency.

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After about an 45 mins of grinding and marking the flange, this is what I came out with. I have to say, I think this side fits better than the passenger side that was undamaged!

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Now to address the damage to the collector. I cut off the damaged flange and prepared the metal for welding. I chose to add a 2.5" vband clamp rather than the gasket style clamp that came with it. Should seal up a lot better.

Just a reminder of what I started with.

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Finished product, not the best welds, but my first time welding stainless.

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And the finished product. The dent in the tube looks much worse than it really is.

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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: jonathonar89 on August 02, 2017, 12:28:38 PM
Don't feel too bad about the dented header haha...

https://youtu.be/azPKIjxmmdU
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 02, 2017, 12:29:14 PM
Next up was to get my engine harness fully converted to stand alone and confirming all wires have good continuity and are in the right locations. The harness that I got in trade is a truck harness that has been partially converted, so some of the hard work has already been done. The guy started it using the LT1swap.com instructions, but got overwhelmed and didn't finish. So, I am going to use a 99 LS1 ECU that I have unlocked on my HP Tuners so there were a few pins that needed to be swapped in/out. A few pins needed to be swapped around so that the 5v references were going to the right sensors, and I needed to add in wires for the reverse lockout and VSS.

What I started with.

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Once I confirmed all wires were in the right location on the ECU pins, I wanted to loom up the wires as tightly as I could to the motor.

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I ran out of loom so I couldn't finish wrapping it up. Will need to order some to finish this up.

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Right before I was going to bed for the night, I was walking up the stairs and thought this was a pretty cool picture. It made the car look like it had wires going to it and giving it some life.

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The last project I was working on lately is the poor fitment from a previous owner's attempt at a quarter skin replacement. Once I fit the door up a few weeks ago, it was clear that whoever put the skin on didn't have the door on to help with fitment. I had to split the skin on the outside and pull it out by about 1/2" before it would fit. I am very happy now with the fitment. all the body lines are very close. Just need to make a few patch panels and then address the rocker panel as well. Because the quarter was put on poorly, the rocker was too, so they both need tweaking.

What I started with

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After a cut and tack weld fitment.

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I was finally able to get a good deal on a nice RS gas cap on ebay. $13 bucks shipped works for me. It was the last piece to the puzzle for the exterior RS parts that I am going to use.

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And one with my little helper haha.

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Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 02, 2017, 01:00:20 PM
Don't feel too bad about the dented header haha...

https://youtu.be/azPKIjxmmdU

That actually made me feel a lot better! Thanks for posting that.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: fixitrht on August 02, 2017, 01:07:43 PM
Nice job on the trunk, I was sure glad to crawl out of the 75 when finished!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 07, 2017, 07:31:36 AM
Well, I have been on the fence for a while about whether or not to leave the outer wheel wells as I knew there was a bad repair lurking beneath. I finally made the decision that since I had to cut the quarter skin to pull the trigger and get the cut off wheel out.

First cut...

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Find the spot welds.

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And after all that, I'm very glad that I cut it out. Very sloppy/shoddy repair.

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All the bad metal is gone, now time for clean-up.

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Now that the rusted metal is out, I do feel better about this repair. Although, upon the first test fit of my new outer wheel well I am unsure of how exactly I can get it installed in one piece. I was hoping with the loose quarter panel, that it would slip in easier than it is. I will figure out some way to get it in effectively.

Earlier last week, I received some more parts so that I could mount my brake lines for final, and button up my LS1 rear brake swap. Brake line clips are stainless steel from Right Stuff and will hold both my brake line and the nylon fuel lines.

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Driver's side is complete. Not too bad looking for cleaning up some recycled Junk Yard parts!

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Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 10, 2017, 09:10:59 AM
Quick update, I have been busy chipping away at all of the little projects and trying to stay ahead of the parts I need. Having a full on project car like this as well as a family and house responsibilities, it is an extreme exercise in time management haha. Sometimes having the parts when I need them is critical to moving forward with a certain task. Great example is the v-band clamp that I ordered for the passenger side header. I had about 45 mins after dinner, and decided to cut off the old collector and weld on the v-band.

During and after:

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Welds are getting a little better.

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Along with the V-band, I bought a few other parts. 3 O2 bungs (one is for a wideband), and a bunch of 3/4" spacers for my low mount alternator. Going to try and space it out to meet the truck pulley I have on my engine now to clear the frame without a notch. Once the new bolts come in I will do a test fit.

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I'm hoping to make a little more progress on the wheel well this weekend, but time will tell.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 14, 2017, 01:56:56 PM
In keeping with the penny pincher theme and motto, I came back fresh from the pick a part with some good parts! Some to sell (hopefully for a profit) and some to help further the project. The key parts I needed were a starter, electric fan, S10 ECU holder and some misc. wiring bits. I'm really pleased with my local pick a part yard as they don't seem to charge me for wiring pigtails and misc. wiring bits when I am buying a higher dollar amount of parts. Works for me!

Both the wiring and fan came out of a Cadillac limo. The limo had a wiring control box for all of the additional controls, and I robbed all the components from it. fuse blocks, relay boxes and a bulkhead. I believe the fan is a generic fan, but looked brand new.

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Next on my list was to create a neutral safety switch. When I did the LS swap on my 76, I never fully addressed this and wanted to be certain that it was done correctly on this build. I decided that rather than having a full voltage running to a switch, that I would opt for a relay to control it. I wanted to use the KISS method and went with a brake switch. That required that I added on a small piece of metal to hold the added switch. I was busy working and didn't take a picture before.

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Also, as sort of a review of the OER pedals. I noticed after a while that the petal had a slight play left to right, so I opted to put a small bead of weld on the top side to make it more permanent. Not a big deal, but worth noting that someone might expect that too.

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Hoping to get the assembly painted up and reinstalled in the very near term. Then final install of the brakes, clutch master, etc.

All for now.
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: duffinatur on August 19, 2017, 10:01:47 PM
Looking good. Great fab skills. How do you keep your garage clean?  Mine starts looking like a dump after a weekend. I'm constantly taking a break to clean up.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 21, 2017, 10:45:03 AM
My garage has to stay clean, or I no longer have a happy wife. How does that saying go again?...  8-)

Glad I am back to weekly updates. The closer I get to getting this car to the point of running and driving, the more motivated I get to finishing this ride! That said, I keep running into set backs. Biggest one was a few weeks ago when I decided to cut out my outer wheel house. I knew that it needed to be done, and I am glad that I did as it was definitely a necessary set back. The previous repair was absolutely horrible, and the unfortunate part of it all was someone took a lot of time welding in those patch panels prior to putting on the quarter panel. When for about $70 bucks I bought a pair of new outer wheel houses. Time/Effort vs. Cost is the one lesson that I have learned from this build.

Anyway, onto the pictures. After I cut out the wheel house, I noticed an ugly little patch here that uncovered more rust...

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Cut out the bad and replicated what I cut out. Then burnt in some fresh metal and coated everything with weld-through primer.

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Next was prepping the body to accept the new outer wheel house. I decided the best method was to drill through the inner wheel house and internal structures and weld to the new outer that way. It worked perfectly, and I was able to get solid penetration through all the metal. All held in place using all the vice grips in my possession.

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And all done. Funny how it takes so much time to prep something for welding and then takes minutes to actually weld together. All done here.

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One thing to remember for anyone that may be attempting this, the ONLY reason that I was able to replace the outer wheel house with the quarter panel on the car was because the bottom part of the quarter was loose. I had to cut the quarter skin at the body line and below to pull it out to meet the door properly. Otherwise there is no way to install the outer in one piece.

Next, I moved on to fitting the door/quarter/rocker panel. It's all coming together nicely, but I will need to order a new rocker panel. This one has been modified too much with the lower lip removed. Now that I have the inner fit, I now realize that I will have to invest too much effort and materials (lots of welding wire and gas) over just buying a new one ($70) and fitting it. Time/Effort vs. Cost. However, the body panel fitment is really coming together nicely. Very pleased. Disregard the wavy rocker panel as it will be cut out and replaced.

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All for now, Happy Solar Eclipse 2017.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Ryoko on August 21, 2017, 11:35:42 AM
I'm curious how one replicates the crease where the bottom of the quarter meets with the rocker panel. The flange to the quarter is folded into the door jamb and  there doesn't seem to be an easy way to reach it to plug weld.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 21, 2017, 11:50:10 AM
That has been (and still is) a source of frustration for me, and I'm still not 100% sure how I am going to fix that to be honest. There is enough room to reach behind the quarter panel to plug weld in a piece to make it solid. Which I am leaning towards as the method of repair. It's not optimal, but not what I would consider a poor repair. I'm afraid that if I pull the trigger and take the quarter panel off, I will run into project creep and not finish for 5 years... If time and money weren't an issue I would already have cut it off.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on August 21, 2017, 12:46:36 PM
Looking good! Great progress. Right or wrong, I have welded the seam with enough penetration that I can grind the seam in for the "look". I have added material, sometimes a 1/8" bar stock to grind into. Not sure how else to do it....
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Ryoko on August 21, 2017, 01:51:18 PM
I was contemplating cutting a portion of the lower door jamb out to do that weld and then stitch the removed piece back in place. Not real crazy about doing it. But there doesn't seem to be a completely sanitary way to do it. I'm not sure how the factory did it.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 28, 2017, 08:47:34 AM
More progress this week, but not very exciting. I was able to get my fuel lines ran next to my brake lines. It took me longer than I thought, because I had to re-bend the brake line where it wrapped around the leaf spring mount so that it put the fuel line on the right side. Otherwise I was going to have it cross which I didn't like. I ended up running the Nylon lines for a few reasons; I have used them in the past with great results, non corrosive, and very easy to work with. I used the caulk gun method to press the fittings into the Nylon lines then, I used some stainless steel fuel/brake line clips from right stuff to drill and tap the holes to mount. Glad I did that this time around. Very happy with the results. Started at the tank and worked towards the fuel rail.

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And to the fuel rail. I left the fuel line a little long because I'm not sure where I want the final placement of the fuel line in the engine bay.

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Next, I wanted to put the factory wiring harness back in to see what I was up against. Surprisingly, the interior harness looked almost new. Only wire that I saw cut was one for the radio.

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Before I put in the ignition and headlight switches, I cleaned off the primer over spray with some reducer. Came off really easily.

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I also forgot to post this, but here is the fully modified and painted clutch pedal assembly. It was in the other pictures too, but I cleaned up and painted the master cylinder and booster and bolted them down for final.

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Not as much progress as I was hoping, but I forget how time consuming sorting out and tracing wires can be. Luckily there aren't that may circuits that I need to worry about in the 1968.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on August 28, 2017, 01:46:38 PM
Fourth gens use nylon fuel lines and most of them are 20+ years old now and I've never heard of them having a problem, so I say it's a good call.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on August 28, 2017, 04:41:09 PM
I too used the nylon lines on my LS swap. I used a wooden vice I made to hold the line and then tapped the fitting in. Worked much easier for me than the caulking gun but that is just me I'm sure. That pedal set up came out great.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 29, 2017, 06:55:35 AM
The wife went to bed early last night so I got some solid time in the garage. With all of the little projects that keep my side-tracked, I decided to tackle the wiring because that has been a concern of mine. Especially on how to integrate my LS wiring into the stock harness. I'm having a difficult time deciding where I would like to place the ECU. With wiring, there isn't much to show in pictures, but I spent a ton of time routing wires and testing all of my connections to make sure that I wouldn't have any surprises and I was very pleased that all the components that I tested have worked perfectly.

It's alive!

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When I did the LS swap on my Trans Am I never finished my neutral safety switch and it always bothered me, so I wanted to make sure that this was done correctly on the Camaro. Now, this to me was really cool. I knew from the beginning that I wanted to use a relay to trigger, but when I was looking at how to hook it up to my dash wiring I noticed that the terminals on the stock connector were similar to the relay wiring terminals. I de-pinned the connector and as luck would have it the terminals were almost identical. I swapped them over, soldered one lead to the switched 12V+ on my clutch switch, the other to fused 12V+, and grounded the relay. I tested it and it works perfectly. And yes, I did bump the motor over just to see if it worked.  :cool:

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I'm very happy with where the wiring is at the moment. If I can make a decision on where I want to place the ECU, I can then finalize the LS wiring and will be very close to firing the motor in the car! So pumped!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Ryoko on August 29, 2017, 07:45:19 AM
Are those copper brake lines?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Zapper2003 on August 29, 2017, 01:04:24 PM
I'm pretty sure he mentioned in an earlier post that he used NiCopp brakeline. If I'm wrong, please correct me.


It's a super easy to work with brake line material. I've used it myself and if it ever comes down to me re-doing any brakelines on my 78, I will definitely be buying a coil.

http://agscompany.com/product-category/brake-fuel-transmission-lines/nicopp/
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Ryoko on August 29, 2017, 01:16:37 PM
I hadn't seen copper brakes lines until now. I guess I'm an old school stainless fan. I see the copper lines are easier to work with and DOT approved. But the fact that stainless is so hard to work with gives it bonus points for resisting road hazards.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on August 29, 2017, 04:20:15 PM
I'm pretty sure he mentioned in an earlier post that he used NiCopp brakeline. If I'm wrong, please correct me.


It's a super easy to work with brake line material. I've used it myself and if it ever comes down to me re-doing any brakelines on my 78, I will definitely be buying a coil.

http://agscompany.com/product-category/brake-fuel-transmission-lines/nicopp/
I think you're right.  Also I think NiCopp is just as strong or stronger than standard steel lines, so they're perfectly fine in that regard.  Probably not as strong as stainless though, but unless you're off-roading I can't foresee there being a huge benefit to stainless.  Though something else to consider is the NiCopp would dent and bend whereas the stainless might crack and fracture, would be interesting to torture test both in a scientific environment.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 30, 2017, 08:12:52 AM
Are those copper brake lines?
Yes, kinda. They are nickle copper lines which is a blend of copper alloys that was actually developed back in the mid 60's. Many European manufactures have actually been using them standard on vehicles since the late 70's. Volvo was the first in 1976.

FWIW, I had made two 90* bends to go around my rear leaf spring perch, but when I was running my fuel lines I realized that if I left them, the brake line and fuel lines would cross. Not a big deal, but I didn't like it. So I straightened out the bends with a combination of my hand and a tubing bender and the results were almost undetectable that any change was made. There wouldn't be a chance you could do that with stainless.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 01, 2017, 07:54:27 AM
Hat Trick Triple update week! I have been so excited to get this car back together and running I went out again last night to finish up some loose ends. I started off first by doing the final fit and finish for the reverse lights for my RS conversion. I scoured the internet to find the "correct" placement for the holes in the trunk so that I could get it as close to OEM as possible. It took me a while to get the holes in the inner structure right so the lights were centered and level. I also had to work on getting the lights functional as there was some corrosion on the inner contacts.

It was hard to get a good picture as it was so dark. Great shot of my RS gas cap too! Love that look.

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I know that the RS stuff wasn't needed to fire up the motor, but is wiring related and I easily get side tracked. Now onto the more important task of figuring out where to mount my ECU. My previous LS swap I wanted to have the ECU inside the cabin for fear of it getting wet and damaging it. I was thinking about where to mount on this swap and since there is much less room in the cabin of the first gen cars I was thinking about the engine bay since they are water resistant afterall. I searched around and found that the best place for me was to mount inside the fender behind the battery. My harness was JUST long enough to fit, and with the S10 mount I picked up a few weeks ago was an excellent fit.

First I had to mock up the inner fender. I underestimated how much of a PITA getting the inner fender installed with the outer fender on the car was going to be. Word to anyone doing it in the future, put your inner fenders in first!

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Once I routed the harness through the fenderwell and put the ECU in that pocket, I knew right away it was home.

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The engine bay is really starting to come together. (Please ignore the primer/rusted inner fender. It won't stay like that long.)

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Once I found where I wanted to have the ECU mount, it was as simple as making a few small brackets using the existing holes in the core support. I had to drill one hole in the inner fender with access through the marker light. I just wanted to get the ECU mounted and wiring routed so I made some quick and dirty brackets. I think that once this gets blown apart for paint I am going to go back through and make some nicer brackets out of aluminum stock.

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The S10 bracket fit in there extremely well, and the mounting holes were all in the right spots to make quick and simple brackets.

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I also made sure to test fit the RS headlight before I could be certain it was final and there wasn't any issues with the door mechanism or the headlight connector. Great Success! (Best Borat voice)

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Once the battery is installed it will be barely noticeable. I am going to get install some of the gray connector caps for the blue and red ECU connectors and paint them black so it completely disappears. Stay tuned as there will very likely be an update from this weekend when I fire the motor installed for the first time.

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Ok, now where is my coffee haha.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 05, 2017, 07:38:26 AM
I worked like crazy to get the car ready to run, and fell just short. I could have easily twisted a few wires together and had it running, but as I started to do that I asked myself why? The more I thought about it, I would just have to take it back apart and re-wire it after I was done, so I figured I would just do it right the first time. Now that I had my ECU location decided, I had to make a decision on where to cut a whole in the firewall for the wires that were coming in from the ECU. The fuse bulkhead was something I wanted routed inside the cabin, along with the necessary wires for ECU data, and gauges. After a test fit of the heater box, I liked the location down low just to the side of the box. It will be hidden from sight, and shouldn't have to worry about debris coming through. Made the cut.

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Next challenge, was figuring out how to get this bulkhead through that tiny hole...

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Then, after enough brute force I managed to push the whole assembly through that tiny hole. (Just a little humor. I ended up de-pinning the bulkhead, pushed the wires through and re-assembled.)

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No issues with interference. Yes, I will be repairing the heater box.

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And this is how I left it for the day. I'm very pleased with how well everything has come together with the wiring harness.

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Also, while I had the garage doors open, I got a few pictures of the completed RS rear conversion.

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I am down to about 6 wires that need to be connected and I am all set to do the test fire in the car. I first have to get my OBD2 port hooked up so that I can flash the updated tune on the car so that it can run properly. Once I get the motor running with the coolant system hooked up, the only thing left before it can move and stop under it's own power is bleeding the brakes and cutting my driveshaft to length! And maybe a full exhaust haha.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on September 05, 2017, 07:10:57 PM
Man you are moving quick. Great work on the wiring and routing of the loom! I will need to redo mine someday to look .ore like your your's.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 11, 2017, 07:48:05 AM
I had a few updates over the past week. My wife was in NYC at a concert with her Dad and sisters, so I took my son to spend some time with his grandma and I got to work. I am continuing to get closer to firing up the motor, but still not quite there yet. The biggest thing that I wanted to tackle was getting some pipes on the car so that I wasn't shooting flames out of the bottom of the car. Also, so I could mount my oxygen sensor bungs. Please keep in mind that this is my budget exhaust, so I am using extra pieces from my other projects.

Since I don't have a welding table, I rigged up my own. I had never tried it before, but it worked out incredibly well. I had a leftover piece of stainless from another project and put it on my wheel stands. Grounded the welding lead to that and bingo, temporary welding table.

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2.5" V-Band to 3" reducer leftover from my 76 LS1 swap.

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Ugly, but will clean up nicely with a grinder. My last attempts at welding exhaust, but thankfully I have gotten better at butt welding.

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Didn't get any pictures of the other side during the fabrication, but have a final installation. I love how they are routed up nice and tight to my trans crossmember. Right through the pockets I made. The hard part is done, now I need to connect the tail pipes, place the mufflers and add an H-pipe crossover.

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Moving on to the engine compartment, I wanted to get a test fit for my radiator and see if any of the hoses I have been collecting will work. Just wanted to share something that may help others in the future. I grabbed my brand new radiator that has been sitting around in dry storage for a while, and noticed an awful smell. Looked in the lower coolant pipe and a rodent had decided to lay to rest inside. Lucky enough, I grabbed my shop vac and it came out in one piece, but the smell was still there. Moral of the story, throw some tape or a rag in the ports!

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Gross! After that was taken care of I installed the radiator and the hoses that I have will work nicely. I need some help from the first gen guru's though, does this look right? The radiator cap is so close when the hood is closed, that I cannot get a finger over it. Just want to make sure it is in the right location.

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Few other small updates. I finally got the stainless bolts I ordered online. I ordered some 3/4" spacers and M10-1.5 x 140mm bolts and the first ones were 40mm. Anyway, finally got them installed and I am very happy with the fitment. No need to cut the frame now! I need to get an fbody alternator or figure out how to move the 12V stud as it is too close for comfort. Alignment is excellent!

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The other update was finding the right yoke straps. Nothing that I had was the same, so I measured and looked on Rock Auto and found that the correct straps I needed for my stock 12 bolt yoke were the same for the K20 trucks.

AC Delco part # for those interested

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I am getting dangerously close to firing up the motor now. I need to wire up my OBD2 connector, CEL, change oxygen sensor plugs to LS1 and flash the computer with the updated tune. I also need to cut and route radiator hoses, fill trans with fluid, fill diff with fluid, fill and bleed brakes and cut driveshaft. Once those things are done, I believe I will be able to start and move the car under it's own power! So close I can almost taste it.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Zapper2003 on September 12, 2017, 06:09:04 AM
Not sure what the procedure would be, but you can typically pull the bolts and 'clock' the alternator 90 degrees from the original position. Dad just picked up a 34 with a low mount alternator, and the fools that put the thing on had it within 1/4" of the steering box. At some point, it had made contact (you could see the electrical 'burn' marks). Some people!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 12, 2017, 01:15:42 PM
Unfortunately the LS alternators only have two mounting holes so I can't clock them. Good thought though. Nice score on the 34, love the front gills! Batteries definitely don't like to have their terminals connected... glad you guys caught that.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Zapper2003 on September 14, 2017, 04:53:22 AM
It's actually the housing that comes apart. Think of it as front half/back half. The front half on the SBC alternator has the mounts, and the back half is a 'cap' (if I may call it that). I'm not sure about LS alternators, but I know that was the option for him. Pull the 'cap' side, and spin that 90* and bolt it back to the front half, thus 'clocking' the battery terminal further from the steering gear.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 14, 2017, 05:52:06 AM
I see what you mean now. I will have to check mine to see if that is an option. Thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 18, 2017, 08:46:11 AM
I couldn't sleep one night a few days ago and sneaked into the garage to get some more wiring bits finished up. Among other things, I wired in my OBDII port and was able to flash the start-up tune into the car so that I can fire it up very shortly. There seems to be something that keeps delaying me from actually firing it off. I guess this time around I want it to be more finished so that I can let it run for as long as I want rather than just 20 seconds. I love seeing the old photos of cars with a laptop in them for tuning. 8)

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Next up was working on my temporary driveshaft. I don't feel too bad cutting up the stock driveshaft that came out of my car, so I thought it would be a good time to try out something new. I had read online about people making their own custom driveshafts by cutting the welds and welding them back together. I figured what is the worst that could happen. I don't plan on taking this down the road, but more as a trial and error for my final driveshaft. I want to get that one cut and done once. I took a ton of measurements and wrote them all down on paper. Once I determined the amount that needs to be removed, I made my first cut. I cut along the edge of the weld closest to the tube side. I didn't have to go very deep with my grinder and just took my time and kept cutting until I could see where the two were separating. I kept tapping with a hammer and it popped right off.

I made sure to mark the center-line of where the u-joint is on the yoke. It also happened to run right center of where the weight was. I will keep it all the same and re-attach the weight where it was.

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I looked inside and there is a cardboard tube inside? Wonder why that was put there?

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Marked and cut the section off that I needed and cut a little less just to be safe.

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Once I tapped the yoke in it was time for a test fit. At first glance it appears that the driveshaft is too long as I only have about 3/4" sticking out of the tailshaft. From what I have read, anywhere from 1.25" - 1.5" is the sweet spot. I should have gone with my original cut and took off the extra and I would have been right on the money.

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Just need a little more time to trim the last bit off then I can clean up the yoke and prep it for welding. Once the driveshaft is welded and I get a new u-joint for the rear, I just need to fill up the fluids, bleed the brakes and crank over the engine. Very close now.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: scarebird on September 18, 2017, 08:17:58 PM

I looked inside and there is a cardboard tube inside? Wonder why that was put there?

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Ryan

Resonance.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 22, 2017, 08:23:48 AM
Ah ha. That makes sense. Should I put it back in?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: scarebird on September 22, 2017, 07:44:48 PM
I would - GM went thru the trouble to make and install it.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: N PRGRES on September 23, 2017, 02:52:02 AM
Wow you are a busy guy, I can't even comprehend doing all the work you have done. Great job!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 25, 2017, 07:28:45 AM
Well this weekend marked a huge step forward in my build. I worked like crazy to make sure that everything was in order to finally turn the key on this project. First thing I wanted to do was finish up my driveshaft shortening. My father-in-law volunteered to turn the driveshaft while I welded it to get as consistent of a bead of weld as possible to minimize balancing efforts. It turned out great. I love that little Miller 135.

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And with a brand new Spicer 1310 u-joint. I only painted the welds because I didn't want to cover up my mark where the weigh should be. I'm waiting to see if I can feel a vibration before I weld on the weight.

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I also bought a bunch of parts to help further along the project. You have to love the ebay bargains. 125 grommets for $7.99

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I went through all of the wiring again, topped off fluids and set-up my laptop to log the first startup. And finally, after a lot of work I was finally able to hear it run! The video evidence!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCMjN1zaLb4

The best part was there were no leaks and everything sounded tight! I was very happy when the motor hit it's target idle almost immediately. I still need to go through the data and make sure that the current tune-up where it needs to be. I got 4 DTC's all of which were related to not having the electric fans hooked up yet. I have it setup currently for stock 2 fan setup, but will only run one for the time being, so I have to change that.

Then yesterday, I finally bought the parts to temporarily delete my power steering. Basically a 54" belt, 6 rib idler pulley and .100" washer. My son was asleep by the time I got the time to test fit the parts altogether so I haven't had the chance to test it with the water pump and alternator running yet. You can also see the 3/4" spacers that I used between the alternator bracket. It was hard to get a picture with the radiator in the way, but here it is.

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If I can get someone to give me a hand this week to bleed my brakes and clutch I can actually move the car under it's own power.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: N PRGRES on September 26, 2017, 03:21:16 AM
Nice job!  I am a few parts away (awaiting delivery) from start up myself!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: LeighP on September 26, 2017, 05:57:26 AM
Red letter day in the build! Well done!  :cool:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on September 26, 2017, 05:05:58 PM
Huzzah, it's alive! 8)
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: NOT A TA on September 26, 2017, 07:33:47 PM
Congrats on getting it fired up!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on September 27, 2017, 04:45:37 AM
Sounds good! Won't be long now. Gotta have grampa over to hear it.

Congrats!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 27, 2017, 05:52:30 AM
Sounds good! Won't be long now. Gotta have grampa over to hear it.

Congrats!
Haha you are right, but he is a very busy guy. I tried calling him but turned out that he was out riding his Harley all day. 77 and still going strong!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Jack on September 27, 2017, 07:34:36 AM
Congrats, thats a huge milestone.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 28, 2017, 08:40:21 AM
Thanks for all of the compliments, it was certainly a huge milestone and it is making me even more motivated.

Finally received my new Goodmark Driver's side rocker panel. I was a little nervous when I first received it as UPS wasn't kind to the box. Thankfully the rocker panel was packaged really well and wasn't damaged.

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I'm hoping to get both rocker panels and the passenger side outer wheel house installed, welded and seam sealed before it's too cold to keep the garage doors open. I found that I can do some welding in the garage as long as I keep the doors open for about an hour afterwards. If I do it with the doors shut I'm afraid that the smell will penetrate into the house.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on September 28, 2017, 01:51:54 PM
UPS=United Parcel Smashers
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 03, 2017, 06:55:10 AM
To start this update off, I am posting a semi-car related garage update. I have been getting some flak from my better half to keep the garage a little cleaner and she is right, it has slowly kept expanding. Well on Friday I found a 10+ ft. work bench on Craigslist for cheaper than I could build one and after I brought it home cleaned up.

When I first brought it home, with my little helper who insisted on trying it out.

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Before:

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After:

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It helps to keep the peace and also helps me to be more organized. Win-Win.

Now to the car updates. I have been putting off the metal work on the car for one reason or another, but finally made the decision to start. I bought a new rocker panel as the one that was on there by a previous repair didn't fit well at all. I assumed it was just a poor installation without the test fit of the door, but I actually determined that it was actually a bad stamping! Kinda scary actually because it was off by about 1/2-3/4" in some places.

I started by removing the door:

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Cut out the old rocker and made the first test fit:

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I got busy working and forgot to take pictures as I was going, but here is the final product. The fit and finish on the Goodmark metal was top notch. Very pleased with how it fit together.

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The gaps turned out great. They are all right within specs. I had to get creative on the lower quarter panel as someone decided to cut off the bottom piece that usually rolls in and butts up with the rocker. I made a short L shaped bracket that runs the full length of the rocker and will allow me to weld directly to the outer skin. Not pretty, but functional.

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Very pleased with the overall body lines and gaps on the driver's side!

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I also have some parts updates. I have been putting off buying one of the Holley oil pans for a while due to having other priorities for the car. I was getting close to needing one when I heard that Holley was releasing a revised version of the 302-2 pan which is designed for my car. The Holley 302-3 pan is slightly different from the previous version as it allows for up to a 4" stroke crank, and also has some neat little 1/2" ports on both sides for a turbo drain back. Which is awesome for me as I plan to fabricate a turbo kit for the car over the next few years. At that point, I would literally just have to take the plugs and thread in an AN fitting. Win!

I really haven't bought that many new parts for this car, so this is a very exciting day!

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I had read in the past that some of the Holley pans came with some machining flakes in the ports and pan. I wanted to check mine out of the box to see what mine looked like and it was spotless. I didn't see anything even close. Very pleased.

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I also picked up a mega fuse and holder for a junction to power the car directly from the battery.

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Thanks,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on October 03, 2017, 08:24:32 AM
This is an inspiration for me to get my butt off the couch and back into the shop! Good deal on the work bench.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: LeighP on October 04, 2017, 01:01:10 AM
Those Holley conversion parts are great stuff....they make the whole "LS" swap thing much more professional.
Nice job on the rocker panel...looks great!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: mrbandit on October 04, 2017, 10:16:14 AM
One day you'll do this for a living....just saying.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 06, 2017, 11:06:53 AM
Thanks for all of the replies. It really keeps me motivated to keep trucking. I'm hoping to possibly get some time in the garage tonight to finish up on the driver's side and maybe even cut and mock up the passenger's side. I'm really glad that the bulk of the welding is done on the driver's side because that is where my fuel lines are running. Not so close on the passenger's side.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 16, 2017, 09:18:32 PM
Been a few weeks since I have had any significant progress, but now I have something worthy of posting. I have been working diligently to keep plugging away at all of the little things that tend to eat up a lot of my time. This post kinda bounces around so bear with me.

My dad upgraded to a much larger bead blaster, so I happily took his old bench-top unit. Once I got it ready to plug some air to it, I tossed my diff cover in. It had some pitting on the inside and it polished up just fine.

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Then, I installed it with a fresh gasket and silicone. Once that set overnight, I filled with Lucas oil and my friction modifier. ( I know it is Ford, but it had great reviews)

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I also found a heater delete coolant hose, Dayco 87629, that has the correct ID sizes for the LS motors.

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I also installed my MegaFuse junction box. Looks great and I think it is a really clean way to allow for future upgrades.

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Not the prettiest solution to a throttle cable, but works and didn't cost me a dime. The motor I bought came with this sort of half throttle cable with an aluminum rivet/clamp/thing. I used my old broken cable and slipped it through the existing one and boom, now I have a functioning throttle cable. I have future plans for cruise control, so this will be swapped out when that time comes.

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I needed to do was bleed my brakes now that the whole system is complete. I didn't bother to take pictures, but I bought a new hardware kit for my LS1 rear brakes to finish them. I got the car on all fours, and had my wife give me a hand. I thought it was pretty good, I only had one leaky fitting and it was one of the first ones that I flared. Luckily with the NiCopp lines, they are soft enough that if you loosen/tighten them enough they sealed up no problem.

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And the moment I have been waiting for since I bought the car almost two years ago, the first test drive. xboost, I'm right behind you!

I backed it out like this:

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Then I backed it in like this:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH7ewgg2DC4

It really felt amazing getting behind the wheel and having it move under it's own power. Sure I have A LOT of work left to do, but it has sure come a long way since I first got it. I feel like this is a huge milestone in any build and I am glad that I made it!

Now, changing gears (sorry for the bad pun) I have been playing around with my interior as I have been thinking that the Medium Blue interior is just a lot of blue. I am curious to know some feedback on what you all think about possibly keeping the standard black dash, upper and lower, but using some of the blue pieces. I am really digging it. I would use a black carpet, but the headliner, seats and console (if I run one) would be blue.

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I also scored this real SS hood on CL for cheap. Not sure exactly what I am going to do with it, but for $40 bucks I thought it was a good price.

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Thanks for looking.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on October 16, 2017, 09:31:49 PM
The whole moving under it's own power is a red letter day in my book a big milestone I am shooting for as well. Congrats again and keeping with it and making progress.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Brashanic_IM on October 16, 2017, 09:55:43 PM
Congratulations. Very very. Good job
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: LeighP on October 16, 2017, 11:36:34 PM
Congratulations......thats a big step, having it move under it's own power!

On the interior......two tone interiors worked well on 2nd gens.....I think it'll look fine - black dash, carpet and console - coloured seats, side trims, parcel tray and headliner.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 76455sd on October 17, 2017, 08:22:52 AM
congrats.  I'm enjoying following your build.  Black/blue interior will look nice.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 18, 2017, 06:42:57 AM
I appreciate all of the feedback. I think I am pretty set on going with the black and blue two tone interior. I think it has a really nice contrast and the bonus is I don't have to re-paint the dash!

It really isn't in my budget to get the bigger ticket items, but I finally sold the built LS1 that I had and pulled the trigger on the VHX gauges from Dakota Digital. It was a very close call for me between the New Vintage USA, SpeedHut, and Dakota. I really like the New Vintage and they are a little cheaper with similar options but in addition to the gauges you have to also buy their kit to install them to the stock bezel. By the time you buy that it was close to the price of the Dakota gauges. I used Speedhut gauges on my last build and they performed flawlessly and I LOVED the progressive shift light on the Revolution Tach, but they were the most expensive of the three and I would need a custom bezel. I spent a lot of time comparing different aftermarket gauge options and what sold me was that it had the functionality of a newer car with things like integrated cruise control and CEL lights. The other thing was the options for expand-ability. I can add things like a Compass/Outside Temp or Boost which can be displayed on the LCD screen. For me, those options were what sold me.

Box that showed up on my door step.

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Old gauges. (I'm debating on using the original odometer reading of 12,493. I can only do it within the first 100 miles)

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All my parts spread out on the bench

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I wasn't intending on installing them last night, but one thing lead to another and I did. I felt like a kid with a new toy! I guess we never really grow up. I left the protective film on until final install, but here they are mocked up. I'm in love!

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Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 76455sd on October 18, 2017, 07:42:55 AM
very nice!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: nate428t/a on October 18, 2017, 08:43:49 AM
Just stumbled across this build thread. Amazing amount of work you have done. Great work.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on October 18, 2017, 08:52:57 AM
Those look sweet! Can you turn down the brightness on them? They fit right in with the style.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 18, 2017, 01:55:53 PM
Hi Form, Yes the brightness can be adjusted and when I bought mine it came with a free dimmer knob.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: LeighP on October 19, 2017, 12:17:51 AM
They look terrific.....tell you what, though....I looked at the New Vintage "direct fit" for the 69 Firebird......the gauges look great...very tempting. I guess I should just stick with the Rally gauges and hood tach I've already got, lol.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: scarebird on October 19, 2017, 08:55:31 AM
those look great!  now polish up those lenses!   :lol:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 20, 2017, 07:40:18 AM
So far I am extremely happy with the gauges. They were incredibly easy to wire up and just look top notch in my opinion. I wasn't sure about the way that they were wired up originally with just the screw clamps on the bare wires, but honestly it is such a better design than crimping or soldering. Especially with the frequency that we all make changes to our cars, I can see where it would be really helpful to just unscrew and replace something, or wire in something new.

I got some more time last night in the garage and finalized the placement of my control box and wiring. I bought a few pieces at AutoZone to finish up the install and some of them a may or may not return. I thought I was going to need more circuits, but according to the directions the gauges only draw 1 amp so it really much of an additional load on a circuit.

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I kept thinking of where I wanted to place the control box, and since the gauges aren't as deep as the originals there is actually a pocket right behind them where the control box can live. It is very functional and will be very easy to add any BIM modules in the future or any other wiring items. I crudely added in a little aluminum panel to mount additional wiring items to and added a ground terminal at the bottom. I may pull it back out and clean it up a little and paint.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4451/37778561302_d22ef28791_b.jpg)

I feel confident that I am done with the mock up stage and pealed the protective film off of the lenses and reinstalled for final. Wow, they are crystal clear now! Is that any better scarebird? :cool:

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I have been keeping my eyes out for an LS2 1x cam sprocket for a while now and I found one that came up here on PT. Eventually I will convert over to the front cam sensor and this one is needed to run a Gen III LS computer.

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I have most of my gauges wired up; Tach, Speedo, Oil, Coolant and volts. The only thing remaining is my fuel gauge which should be simply tracing the wire and hooking it up. After I get out of work today, I want to get it out today and test the functionality of it. Very exciting! I also need to trace the High beam and turning signals before I can mount the gauges for final though. Getting very close.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on October 20, 2017, 11:11:35 AM
Looks great Ryan. I'm not all that ECM/PCM literate... What is the advantage of the LS3 computer? Is it just the tunability and speed? Does it make that much of a difference in performance?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on October 20, 2017, 04:47:29 PM
Congrats on getting it moving under its own power!  As far as the interior goes I think a blue and black two tone could turn out really well, would give it a nice modern look.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: mrbandit on October 23, 2017, 11:14:17 AM
Here is my vote on the interior

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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 23, 2017, 12:26:37 PM
That's basically what I want to do, but with the medium blue interior! Anyone want to try doing a photoshop of that with that picture and "dye" it blue? I don't have the slightest idea of how to use photoshop.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 26, 2017, 06:32:26 AM
I got into the garage for a few hours last night and decided to mix up a little body filler to take care of some small imperfections. Please keep in mind that I am by no means a body guy, but I am attempting to learn something that is a little out of my comfort zone. I had a few little dents on the roof, small dip on the rear window channel and the remaining amount I had went to a section on the quarter panel that will need lots of TLC. Figured I would put it there rather than waste it.

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Didn't quite have enough to finish it, but I can mix up the rest soon.

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Trying to wrap up the fuel tank wiring, so I had to drill a hole for my fuel pump and sender wiring. I used a slightly oversized grommet in the stock location and it's big enough to fit all the connectors through so I can pull the tank if needed without having to cut wires. I also wanted to use all factory appearing connectors where I could. If anyone is interested, the stock terminals that I needed are called Series 56 Packard. They are used just about everywhere on stock harnesses. Since I don't have a factory type crimper, I just crimped them with my pliers and soldered them for added insurance.

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Fuel pump wire.

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You can also see here where I test fit the filler neck rubber seal and drilled the holes to mount it. Since I replaced the floor I had to drill new holes. It will be nice to button this all up for good!

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I ordered some parts earlier this week that should be here soon to help finish up my LS install. When I did some initial data logs I noticed that my short term fuel trims were way off. I'm thinking that part of the problem is that I have no filter and no exhaust back pressure. Between the two, I believe that the MAF is receiving more air than it thinks it's getting an messing up the fuel trims. It runs really rich at the moment. I'm hoping with a filter and full exhaust that will help fix that issue.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on November 02, 2017, 08:41:26 AM
Time for a parts update. I have had a bunch of the parts I had for sale go on to new homes and that left me with some spending cash. I ordered some parts to get the exhaust more complete and should quiet the car down a bunch and also I'm hoping that it will help my STFT's that my ECU is giving. I'm hoping the backpressure will help to lean it out some. I was looking over the internet for some straight 3" exhaust pipes to get the mufflers where I wanted them. The best prices I found on straight pieces were about $45 each. Since I needed two 3' sections it was going to be almost as expense as buying an X-pipe. So as I was shopping around eBay, I came across a guy selling a Doug's 3' X-pipe kit for $95 bucks with free shipping! Score. With them all laid out, they look great and should give a great sound.

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Next was a great Penny Pincher score for me. I bought a set of used Hotchkis HPS 1000 shocks and rear shock plates from a member on PT. They match the 1.5" rear drop springs perfectly! The set has about 15k miles on them and they are in great shape. These are the last components that I need to make for a complete running/driving car, so that is a cool feeling. Still need a lot of parts to make the car complete but at this point I wouldn't need anything else to make the car run and drive down the road.

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And some staggered multi leaf shock plates. Just need a little clean-up and they will be good as new.

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I took a page from a member on PT, 67rally, and got some of the switchback LED projector lamps for my RS parking/turn signal lights. I don't have the turning signals wired up yet, but I did a quick test from the battery and they are really bright and will greatly help with visibility. Once I get them all wired up I will get a picture or video.

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I also bought a CAI and fuel filler neck hose. I didn't bother to take a picture of the hose and the CAI should be here today. I took the advice from Cape T/A here on TAC and bought a cheap CAI made for a 99-06 Silverado. The tube makes for an almost perfect placement when flipped around for the driver's side by the core support. I hope to update later today with pictures.

I hope in the next few weeks to get the passenger's side outer wheel house removed and replaced, as well as installing the rocker panel. Once that is done, the major bodywork will be finished and it will be off to paint jail...

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: LeighP on November 03, 2017, 01:50:03 AM
Coming along nicely.....I like those switchback LEDs....I used them in my 71, and I have another set going into the 69.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: jonathonar89 on November 03, 2017, 07:05:12 AM
Good stuff Ryan!  Always good seeing you make progress on this car.  I’ll be getting back on the build wagon soon enough.  I’m trying to get into a house this upcoming year myself so I’ll on the penny pincher train myself. 
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on November 03, 2017, 08:12:32 AM
I really like how you are going about with this build budget wise. You are very frugal but are producing a quality product. Once finished you need to write a tutorial on "how to build a car under budget".
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on November 03, 2017, 10:09:25 AM
Thanks for all the feedback guys. Maybe I should write a book haha. The biggest thing that I learned from my '76 was to stick to my goals for a finished product, and spend money on the things that cannot be easily undone. For example, do good work on the replacement quarter panel and spend less on wheels and tires. They can easily be swapped out later. 

My biggest problem is I am a sucker for a good deal. I might be done with the car right now if I hadn't spent money on the brakes, wheels and tires. It all started when I found someone selling newly powdercoated calipers and conversion brackets for about half price...
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: fixitrht on November 13, 2017, 06:20:44 PM
I? so wish I? would have gone with 3 inch pipes.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on December 07, 2017, 08:41:36 AM
I am now back on track to get this car done. I had briefly considered selling the car (seems like a recurring theme I know...) to get something that was done, but decided in the end that I would miss the car too much. I've taken some time to get my house chores in order and helping a friend with the wiring on an LS swap in a 67 El Camino. He needed it converted to stand alone, so I helped out with that. I never posted it a few weeks ago, but I picked up a few things to keep the project going.

One of which is a complete spray system for Plasti-Dip. I have heard that the Graco guns are one of the better versions and best part is a talked the guy down to $25 bucks. A couple gallons of the dip materials and it should at least make the car one color.

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I was also reading that a cheap and effective cold air intake system for most LS swaps is to use the 99-06 Silverado/Sierra eBay kit. The pipe that they use is almost perfect for tucking the filter over in front of the inner fender. I need to either figure out a different coolant hose for my radiator, or another radiator altogether. It took a little while for it to be delivered, but the quality looks good, with the polished aluminum and filter assembly. Good buy for $49 bucks.

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Then I decided to tackle the passenger's side outer wheel house now. Since I need to weld the new rocker panel on as well, it made sense to start here. Some ugly patch panels. You can also see the right corner of the awful patch panel of the outer lip someone did. Not sure how you could bring yourself to put a new quarter panel over those...

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And gone.

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Now that the outer wheel house is out, I will need to split the quarter panel in a similar fashion so that I can squeak the outer into position. At first I didn't like that idea, but it will also allow me to tighten the gaps and get everything just where I want it. It will all work out in the end.

And onto something not project related, but what has been keeping me busy. I had to do a "tune up" on my snowplow and install some new decals. Changing the fluid and getting it ready for the winter months.

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Here is the harness that I converted to stand alone. I will also flash a new tune on the car to get it up and running. Then they will take it to a shop to have a dyno tune on it.

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Cheers for getting back on track.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on December 07, 2017, 03:01:10 PM
Looks like you'll be needing that plow soon.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on December 07, 2017, 05:25:56 PM
If you haven't bought the Plasti-Dip yet you should look into some stuff called AutoFlex, it's like Plasti-Dip but looks more like paint.  Doesn't really cost any more than Plasti-Dip either if you were doing custom colours and glossifier.  Here's their site: http://www.autoflexcoatings.com/
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on December 08, 2017, 06:40:57 AM
Good deal. I found my way back to the shop this week as well. I need to dig my plow out and make sure all is well. Mine is much lighter though, I have one of those ultra light plastic steel backed ones from Western. It kinda looks funny on the front of my big RAM but man it pushes some snow. I built my own intake, wish I would found this kit, it would have saved me a bunch. I bet I have double that in mine and I don't have the filter yet... Nice score.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on December 11, 2017, 07:43:37 AM
Thanks for all of the compliments.

I made a big step forward towards getting the car 100% clean of the rust. I made all of the final cuts and trimmed out all of the remaining bits of the original rocker panel that was never trimmed out. Then I had a clean surface to work with.

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After that, I realized that I had to install the outer wheel house before I could do the rocker panel, so I had to shift gears. Before I could install the outer, I had to make a few patches for the lower inner wheel house and trunk extension before I could install the outer wheel house. Not super exciting so I only took a few pictures. One think I did want to show was how taking the time to get your templates to fit really well can improve the look of the repair and cut down on the time fabricating it.

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And the outer installed!

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Now sometime during the installation of the outer wheel house, my car decided to give me some payback for considering to sell. At least that is the story that I am sticking with... While trying to position the outer wheel house instead of slipping up into place, it slipped down and into my face. Serves me right for even thinking of selling the project.

Right after I did it.

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Then once it was settled and the outer was finally installed, I roughly trimmed up the rocker panel and roughly fit it up into the car. For just a rough trim, I am very pleased with how well it fits. Shouldn't be too much longer before they are all trimmed and welded solid. Once the rocker and wheel house are done, I just have two small patches on the driver's side cowl, and I can focus on prepping the car to paint.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4736/38946834452_5dcfa143cf_b.jpg)

I'm really starting to see that light at the end of the tunnel.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: LeighP on December 11, 2017, 10:14:40 AM
Looks like your car is trying to give you a little warning.....  :lol:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: mrbandit on December 11, 2017, 11:52:14 AM
I remember the time my girlfriend (now Wife) heckled some guys on the side of the road as we were out on a date.  I told her that was a mistake.  She asked why and I quickly told her my car will get jealous.  She laughed, but a few minutes later it had the last laugh.  We stopped off for gas and it refused to start.  Had to end up replacing the starter, but I told her it was her fault :D

To this day I believe that car only wanted me as an owner.  It was given to me as a b-day gift and I mistakenly sold it 7 years later.  For almost the last 10 years it pops up on craigslist on or at my b-day. 

If the car likes you be careful what you say around it.  LOL
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on December 11, 2017, 04:43:23 PM
"Christine"
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on December 11, 2017, 05:24:33 PM
You pulled a DeCaff.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on December 13, 2017, 06:58:02 AM
Yeah, I think that my car overheard some conversations and wanted to give me a warning... :cool:

"Christine"

Not sure what that means roadking?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: mrbandit on December 13, 2017, 07:25:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YSaIc0cpuA
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on December 13, 2017, 02:37:57 PM
That makes a lot more sense now, haha.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on December 19, 2017, 08:58:44 AM
Thanks to Mr. Bandit's help, I have figured out how to embed the youtube vids into my build thread. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCMjN1zaLb4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH7ewgg2DC4
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on December 19, 2017, 10:14:32 AM
That's a great accomplishment. Sounds fantastic.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on December 19, 2017, 03:35:47 PM
Moving under its own power is always a big accomplishment!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 76455sd on December 19, 2017, 03:43:19 PM
IT IS ALIVE!   :D

Congrats.  It sounds great.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on December 19, 2017, 10:23:42 PM
Sweet! Just keep plunking away at it and you'll be burning rubber in no time.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: mrbandit on December 19, 2017, 11:44:27 PM
I want my $2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utIjyD721XY


FANTASTIC WORK RYAN!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: tlucas03 on December 20, 2017, 08:50:28 AM
Ryan, congratulations on your work so far.  It’s been a pleasure to see your progress along with the choices and bargains you have found to get you this far. You have put a lot of work into that car, and can be very proud of all that you have accomplished.  Can’t wait for new updates. Tim
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on December 20, 2017, 02:51:45 PM
Thanks for all of the compliments, helps keep me motivated.

Not much progress on the car, but I am working on securing a spot to get the car painted this year. I have two options and just waiting for some more details to pan out before I can make the decision one way or another.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 02, 2018, 10:18:46 AM
Thought I would post up an update. Not a very visual update, but more of a personal learning update. One thing that I have avoided has always been bodywork and all that goes along with it. I have never had any training or real opportunity to watch someone until recently. I have a buddy who has done bodywork for a long time and he stopped over recently to talk and was looking at my car. I told him the issue that I was having with the body line on the passenger fender not lining up with the door by about 1/4", but the top of the fender sits almost flush. He made a couple suggestions and then left. I kept thinking on it and finally had the motivation to do something. After looking at the fender for a good 45 mins decided to loosen some bolts and make some tweaks. To my surprise, I successfully fixed the body line! It may not sound like a big deal to some, but for me it was a pretty big milestone. I feel a little foolish, because I should have just gone out a long time ago and just started to tweak things and I'm sure I could have gotten it.

Now that it is where I am happy, I can finalize the rocker panel install. I have been holding off on welding up the outer wheel house to until the rocker panel was going to fit properly. Now the quarter panel, door, fender and rocker can all live happily together. My next update should be a final weld on the passenger side panels.

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I also bought a few parts that I don't NEED, but I wanted. I found a great deal on some brand new 42 lb. green giant injectors that flow around 50 lbs @ 58 psi. If I ever go turbo in the future, these should get me by until I get over 7-8 lbs of boost. On that same note, I picked up a brand new LC2 from Innovate from    jonathonar89 who gave me a deal too good to pass up. Thanks man. For now, I am going to use the wideband to dial in my MAF and VE tables. I have always wanted to mess around with more in-depth tuning and this is the tool to use.

Happy New Year!

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: jonathonar89 on January 02, 2018, 10:25:32 AM
Glad to give you a deal for the penny pincher!  Makes me feel like I contributed something to it haha.

Always good to see progress on your project.  I wish I would be able to do the same for my ‘79 but it has to wait until I clear up some of my “overstock” inventory.  I have one car with two subframes, 3 air cleaners, etc.  Stuff has to sell before I can move forward.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 08, 2018, 09:03:32 AM
Very exciting update for me this weekend. I finally finished all of the major body panel replacement! Started with a brand new reproduction panel Friday night. I opted to save the original rocker top and door jamb area as it was original and solid. Plus it saves the original look when you open the door.

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Once I test fit several times and half a dozen vice-grips later, I started my rosette welds along the bottom side of the rocker. Then I started to fit the rocker flush to the outside of the door. I am very happy with the final product. The body gaps are looking really good to me.

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Now that the rocker panel is set, I decided to final weld in the outer wheel house I installed a month or so ago.

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At this point I called it quits for the night, but was pumped because I happened to have the following morning to myself and I could get a significant portion of the welding done on the rocker.

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After giving my dad a hand in the morning, I started by getting the rocker panel into place. I overlapped the rocker panel then used a jig saw to cut the outline of the existing rocker panel. This worked perfectly as it gave me a very solid edge to butt weld the panels together. I could also tweak it to get the body lines right where I wanted. I had to pull the door off to get the last bit of it cut straight. Luckily for me my dad came back over to help me put the door back on so I could use it fit the rocker depth. I didn't get a picture of it, but I used a ratchet strap to help pull it tight up against the body while I welded it in place. Worked incredibly well.

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I still need to finish welding a few ~2" sections of the rocker, but I will finish that when the I pull the doors off for final. I'm very happy with the fitment of all of the body panels now and it's really starting to come together. I still think the door needs to come up just a touch in the front and it will help everything line up, but it's close enough for me to start thinking about getting the body prepped for paint.

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Wheels back on feels good! I put insurance and registered the car a while back and if there wasn't salt and snow on the road, I would have taken her for a spin! I'm getting to anxious now.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on January 08, 2018, 03:21:43 PM
For not being a body man, you are well on your way to becoming one. Looks great!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: superduke on January 08, 2018, 08:50:56 PM
Congrats, that looks great. Nice work on the body lines and gaps.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 10, 2018, 11:00:34 AM
Thanks for the compliments guys, I appreciate it. Yesterday marked the last official day that I was in my 20's. It got me thinking because when I started this Camaro project I though to myself, I would easily have this done by the time I turned 30. But I am not going to think of this as a fail, because as life always throws you curve-balls. I never thought when I started this project that we would be moving, I would change jobs, and my part-time job cutting firewood to heat the house.

That got me thinking about what I accomplished while I was in my 20's, and it wasn't too shabby. I completed my 76 restoration, then immediately started an LS swap. I bought and sold my first house, married the girl of my dreams (going on 7 years this July) and had my first child. Going back farther, I graduated with a bachelor's degree, changed jobs and careers, and landed a great job that I'm still at with no signs of leaving. I'm sure there are several things I missed with this quick list, but got me thinking about all the good that will happen in my 30's! Cheers!!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on January 10, 2018, 12:56:58 PM
Congrats! Much their to be proud of. Family is a great accomplishment.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: jonathonar89 on January 10, 2018, 01:30:42 PM
Thanks for the compliments guys, I appreciate it. Yesterday marked the last official day that I was in my 20's. It got me thinking because when I started this Camaro project I though to myself, I would easily have this done by the time I turned 30. But I am not going to think of this as a fail, because as life always throws you curve-balls. I never thought when I started this project that we would be moving, I would change jobs, and my part-time job cutting firewood to heat the house.

That got me thinking about what I accomplished while I was in my 20's, and it wasn't too shabby. I completed my 76 restoration, then immediately started an LS swap. I bought and sold my first house, married the girl of my dreams (going on 7 years this July) and had my first child. Going back farther, I graduated with a bachelor's degree, changed jobs and careers, and landed a great job that I'm still at with no signs of leaving. I'm sure there are several things I missed with this quick list, but got me thinking about all the good that will happen in my 30's! Cheers!!

Happy Birthday sir.  I’m right behind you...30 is next year for me.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on January 10, 2018, 04:26:29 PM
Happy belated birthday.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 16, 2018, 08:49:58 AM
I'm still moving forward slowly with getting the quarter panels and body lines gapped to my liking. I'm having a difficult time staying on track with the body work because it is something I would prefer not doing. It is outside of my comfort zone, but I keep reminding myself to keep pushing forward. One of the things that I did to help with the body work that I am attempting to do is buying some tools. For the amount of body work that I do, I couldn't really justify buying several hundred dollars worth of body hammers and dolly's. I found a 20% coupon for Harbor Freight and picked up this set. I am by no means a qualified judge of body working tools, but I was pretty impressed with the quality of this set. all of the hammers and dolly's were machined very smoothly and seemed solid. Pretty good starter set for less than $30 bucks.

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I'm working on getting things straightened out and I am starting from the top and working down. Once I get started, I think it will move along pretty quickly. Should have updates soon.

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Also have a few parts to update. I had a buddy who gave me a truck compress and bracket to try with my Holley mounts, but unfortunately they won't even come close to working. It basically won't fit on any angle. I think the only way that it may possibly work is pushing it out to the outer pulley, but then the ribs would be different as it's a 4 rib pulley on that compressor. Cool thing about the truck compressors is that they are a fixed valve compressor so they can work well with the vintage air units.

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Also, here are the injectors and wide-band I picked up recently.

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I have a set of LS1 coil harnesses and 1 coil pack that should be delivered today for my car. I had a few coil packs that were cracked and I kept the coils from the built LS1 I had a year or so ago. I should get those swapped out soon. I have a brand new set of MSD plug wires and new brackets for the coils. Should look great.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on January 16, 2018, 04:06:34 PM
Happy belated birthday. You are quite an accomplished young man. You have a lot to be proud of.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: jonathonar89 on January 16, 2018, 07:03:13 PM
Can't wait to see that wideband install...nice!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 19, 2018, 08:48:56 AM
Thanks, I can't wait to play around with the Dakota gauges. I am trying to forget about the wiring, engine and other fun stuff to try and focus on getting the body work done. I'm in the process now of getting my whiteboard back up in my garage so that I can get a game plan for prepping the body for epoxy. I think it will help keep me inline.

On a side note, I thought I would share with some side work I am doing. My buddy is doing a full restoration on his client's 1967 El Camino which received a built LS1/T56 combo. He has sub-contracted me to assist with the LS wiring and integration of the harness. I took a picture of the motor before I drooled all over it. I am also working through how to get the Vintage Air and ECU to work together to control the A/C so that it functions like a new car would. With fan control, RPM based clutch cut off, and etc. Fun project.

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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: jonathonar89 on January 19, 2018, 09:22:19 AM
Nice, that’ll be good to wire up your a/c to the computer...only sounds logical to me since you already have a computer that handles that.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 22, 2018, 08:26:16 AM
I made some good progress this weekend. I am continuing to plug away at getting the body work done and decided to focus on finishing up the passenger side quarter/rocker. I started by finishing up the final welds on the rocker where it was butt welded. Then ground flush with a flap disk.

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Love flap disks.

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I was busy fitting the quarter panel, and didn't take any before or during pictures. Here it is prepped for some filler.

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I also needed to make a small patch here to fill in the gap. One thing I would suggest to anyone is to make your cardboard templates as detailed as you can. It will help save time when making the piece out of metal. Once it's ground flush it will look great.

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I talked with a buddy who does body work for high end cars. I told him what I was doing and he recommended some of the fiberglass filler to press into the door jamb where I made the repairs. This stuff is pretty nasty looking, but seemed to do a good job of filling where I needed it to. It made me nervous at first because it took quite a while to dry, but eventually did. I must not have used enough hardener. Overall, I am very happy with the shape and contours of the quarter panel. I got to use some new tools and techniques so I was pretty happy with myself.

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Just need to tighten up the body gap in the middle of the door and it will be spot on in my opinion.

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I will just need a small skim coat to get the quarter flush to the door.

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That was all the progress on my Camaro. This past Saturday I road up to a truck stop called Beaver Betty's (not a joke) with my dad to meet a guy who he was swapping parts with. A few years ago, against my suggestion, he bought a built 700r4 from Monster transmission for his 71 Chevelle with 496 BBC. He ran it for the past few years, but has since changed his mind and would like to get a 5 or 6 speed. He ran across a guy on a Facebook marketplace who was selling a Tremec TR3550 and looking to go automatic. When he first called me, I told him are you nuts, that's a stock Mustang Transmission? But upon further research I was thinking of the TR3650, and the TR3550 is the early model of TKO's rated for around 375 lb ft. Not ideal for a stroked BBC. But he ended up giving the guy a call, they worked out a deal where that guy would give him cash on top of my dad's auto. Well long story short after they exchanged a few part numbers, instead of the trans being the low model it came back to the TKO 600 which is rated for 600 lb. ft.+. What are the odds of two guys swapping for exactly the same parts that each other wanted. Nice score dad!

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Another tool update, I have been doing some research and trying to find a good ratcheting crimper that will work for the Packard 56 terminals. I found this one on ebay for $11 bucks and thought it was worth a try. It will do the open barrel terminals, but the Packard 56 are very thick and it won't work with them. Back to the drawing board. I am just not at a point where I can spend $100+ on a crimper for a few connections. My search continues, but for the smaller stuff it does a pretty good job. I tried pulling on that connection pretty hard and it didn't budge.

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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 29, 2018, 07:33:30 AM
I stopped by the local auto paint store after work on Friday and grabbed some better body filler and one of the tearable mixing boards that I have wanted for a while. I started working on the body line issue I was having. The body lines were right where I wanted them with the center door line and the top of the door, but the lower lines were off by a good margin.

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I wasn't very happy with this. Unfortunately, I am too far along with this quarter panel to think about getting a better stamping...

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Please keep in mind I have never really done any bodywork to speak of so this is my first go. I was surprised after the first bit of filler how it was starting to take shape. I used some 36 grit paper to rough in my shape.

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Not to bad for a few rounds of filling and sanding.

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It didn't take much filler at all and the line must have been more of an optical illusion as it didn't need much filler. It completely changed the look though.

I was simultaneously working on the door gaps and depth. I'm very happy with the way that it's all coming together. Door gap are a little tight just above the center body line, and need to be tightened in the center. Another round of sanding and filling should take care of that.

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I also started to strip the passenger fender to prep for a little filler work and noticed that the edge of the fender appears to be just pushed in slightly through the center. I am going to attempt to pull the fender off and use a dolly to move the edge of the fender close to flush. It will also be a good time to pull the inner fender to paint, drill holes for the RS headlights, and re-do the mount for my ECU.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on January 29, 2018, 09:08:19 AM
Seam is looking good. I bought one of those mixing pads and love it. I was always looking for cardboard to cut up and would save pieces as they came in. That pad makes it so much easier.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on January 29, 2018, 01:31:06 PM
Wow! I think you missed your calling! Body work is looking really good. I really need one of those pads.. I have wanted one for a long time. I just keep forgetting to pick one up. To bad you're not closer or I would let you use some of the paint guns I keep collecting.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on February 12, 2018, 07:40:50 AM
It's been a couple weeks, but I do have enough progress to make another update. I have been working on the car for an hour or two here and made some significant progress on the passenger side quarter panel. I didn't get any picture during as I got busy and forgot. but the entire quarter panel is now fully welded. I ground down the spot welds with my flap disk and trimmed the inner fender to match the quarter panel. It came out really nice.

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I added the final round of filler to close the gap on the quarter and fill a couple high spots on the lower quarter. I ordered some of the rolls of sticky 80 grit paper and will attach that and get it really close before the final sand before the icing and high build primers.

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Now that the passenger side is fully welded with all the panel gaps set, I wanted to turn the car around and focus on the driver's side. The panel gaps weren't terrible when I started, but I got them to fit much better. I started with the gaps here.

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One thing that you will notice from this picture is that the body lines and gaps are not that great on the fender. The lower body line is not lining up at all and what you can't really see is the fender isn't sitting flush with the face of the door skin. I was a little frustrated and after talking with some people I decided to massage the fender and I have learned a lot about body panel fitment. It really amazes me how much a hammer, dolly and a piece of wood can transform how the panels can fit. I rented a slide hammer kit with a hook from AutoZone and it worked incredibly well.

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I forgot to take a picture after I set all the door gaps and and have the door right where I want it. Now that I'm happy with the fitment of the fender and door, I am going to work on getting the quarter panel fit and fully welded up.

Next was another thing that I didn't really need to do, but I had a set of 7 LS1 coils, two brackets and brand new MSD plugs that came with that built LS1 motor I picked up a few years ago. I sold the truck coils I had and picked up a set of LS1 coil harnesses and someone selling 2 almost new coils on eBay. I removed the truck coils and am in the process of swapping over to the LS1 coils, but I really like how the motor looks now without the coils... I am very tempted to get some relocation brackets, wires and relocate the coils. After I shave the valve covers that is.

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I really get side-tracked easily... Anyway I finally found a good deal on a good used LS1 power steering pump, Thanks gnx7. I got the pump and it looks almost new! I still need to pick up a power steering line and hook it all up. I can't wait to put the lines on so I can get rid of the plastic bag that I have around both of the lines coming off of the steering box now!

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I bolted it on and used the spacers that I bought a while ago to match the truck pulley. Everything fits really well, just need to pick up some slightly longer bolts and I will bolt it down for good.

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The pulley still needs to be pressed on, but before I do that I'm considering buying one of the aluminum pulley's with the slots in them for easy removal.

Thanks,
Ryan (https://flic.kr/p/23c[img)
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on February 16, 2018, 08:24:13 AM
Well, the wife went to bed early last night so I decided to put in some time in the garage. I turned the car around so I could finish welding on the quarter panels and trunk extension panels. That way I can be done with welding and get the body work started on this quarter. If you remember I had to split the quarter skin to fit it to the door and get the outer wheel house in for replacement. Now I need to close that gap. It looks ugly, but I took a lot of time to make sure that the panels were flush before welding so that will come out very smooth with the flap disk.

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I had to make another cut to get the quarter to sit flush at the top part of the door. I also found out that the top part of the quarter panel was actually bent down as you can see in the picture where it is sticking out at the leading edge. It wouldn't sit flat to the top of the door and I found out that's why. couple of taps with the hammer got it all back in shape.

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The top edge is flush just the way I wanted. Disregard the body filler, as I put it there too thick when I had some extra filler.

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I've also been keeping an eye out for some deals, and I found a new professional paint mask on eBay for $34 bucks! Another thing I learned from my other project.. ALWAYS WEAR A MASK!!

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My little guy was curious what this mask was and he asked to try it on. Haha

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Hoping to get some more work done tonight.

Thanks,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on February 16, 2018, 10:08:53 AM
Looking really good. Body work is a lot of work and takes skill to get right. Great job.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on February 21, 2018, 07:28:32 AM
I know it's not a huge update, but it's funny how sometimes the little things make the car feel more complete. I have been keeping my eyes out for a good deal on a shift lever that is more appropriate for a 1968 Camaro. I found a guy who was selling the shift lever that came off of a Magnum T56 from American Powertrain, and he threw in the shifter ball too. I had to put it on as soon as I got it opened up. I love the way that the new shifter feels, it's a little longer throw which I think gives it a more period correct feel.

Before with the stock Fbody shift lever:

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With new shift lever:

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I also managed to get about 45 mins in with the grinder and knocked down the welds with my flap disk. It turned out really well. I will just hit it with a skim coat and it will look like new.

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Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on February 24, 2018, 01:50:08 AM
I took Thursday and Friday off this week to try and make a big push towards getting the car prepped for paint. I made a huge leap forward these past few days. I woke up from a dead sleep tonight for some reason and figured I would post up my progress. (reason for the 2am post). I started off Thursday by assessing what needed to be done to get the driver's quarter panel finish welded. I wasn't entirely happy with what I originally came up with, so I cut part of it out and butt welded the entire length across.

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Then worked my way across the wheel arches. I had to massage the panels in a few places as it didn't want to sit flush against the outer wheel house.

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Didn't get a lot of pictures during the process as I was getting work done, but spot welded the entire piece and now the panels are in for good. Then grind it down.

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Wasn't happy with the way the top of the door was fitting, so I made a little slice here and tapped it down. Once I was happy with how it was sitting flush, I welded it back up.

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Now that the quarter is done, I added a coat of long strand filler as a base coat to start with. Notice how poorly the body line matches up here as well.

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Then with a first skim coat, getting closer.

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Putting it down in writing, it didn't seem like a whole lot of progress, but the welding, fitting, welding, grinding steps are very time consuming. After doing a little plowing and getting some sandpaper Friday morning I got back to work. I was very unhappy with the gaps at the top of the driver's fender, so I decided to use a trick I had seen before and weld in a filler rod to close the gap. I was originally going to buy some Tig rod and use that as filler, but since this is project Penny Pincher I opted to recycle some old hangers. 

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I had to scuff off the coatings on the hangers before I started welding.

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This should by no means be a tutorial, but it came out better than I expected in the end. Just made sure to take my time and go slow spacing out the welds.

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While I had the welder out and was waiting for the edges to cool I decided to fill the holes that I won't be using. I want a clean look with just the "rally-sport" emblem's on the fender.

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Then I threw the rear wheel back on and took a step back to see what the car looked like and I'm very happy with the results. Could have left the gaps but glad I took a few extra hours to close them up.

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And one more shot of the gap.

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Now that the gaps are set and the extra holes filled, I had to pull the fender for a few reasons. I had to finish the back sides where I filled in the holes, finish the door gap from the inside, weld on a nut that broke off to bolt the fender brace, cut out/replace the last bit of rust on the lower cowl and fill in a hole from the previous owner. One step forward, but feels like I'm going the wrong way.

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At some point, the previous owner welded in a new nut to fix the lower fender mount, but failed to finish the project leaving a rather large hole. After making a few templates out of cardboard, I got that all patched back up with some brand new metal. Nice and solid again.

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That is where I ran out of time for the day. Overall very happy with the progress I have made. I'm hoping that I can make some time either today or later tonight when everyone is sleeping to cut out and finish that small patch on the cowl. Then I will be done, with the metal working! I spoke with a buddy recently who has a paint booth at his house and he said that I could bring my car over once I'm to a point where the car is ready for some primer. Once it's primed with several coats of high build I'm going to have a "block party" and get to sanding. I'm getting super excited to see the car painted, and now I'm having a change of heart with the paint. I'm leaning more towards Torch Red, but nothing is set in stone.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on February 24, 2018, 08:37:07 AM
Wow, that is quite a lot of work you got done. Ya, I did the filler rod fender gap welding to my 67 as well. It really makes the car look better but most don't know why it looks better.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on February 27, 2018, 09:51:35 AM
Thought some of you may think that this is entertaining. If you remember from the first part of my build thread I had a white board that I was keeping track of progress with and when I moved about a year and a half ago I packed it away. Well I was organizing things Sunday and decided that it was time to hang it back up. I had to shuffle some things around, but found a good spot for it. What is funny to me is looking back and seeing how far the car has progressed since I moved. I was happy to report that I crossed everything off of this list!

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And all cleaned up. Hung up my clock too!

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Another cool picture was from earlier on Sunday, when my wife and son were out in the garage helping me clean up. My son asked if he could drive and told my wife in his deep "race car driver" voice "Get in baby!" I asked him where are you taking your mama? He says, "I'm going to California and you can come too!" I lost it and couldn't stop laughing.

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I forgot to add this picture too. While I had the driver's fender off, I wanted to make sure that my brake lines were actually going to clear the inner fender. I was happily surprised that they do! Excuse the dirty mess in the engine bay...

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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on February 27, 2018, 12:27:22 PM
Ryan, I would say nice work, but we expect nothing less from you by now. I like the comments about your son and wife. We are raising our soon to be 6 yo grandson and a couple of weeks ago out of the blue he started to call momom "babe". Sentences like
"whats for dinner babe?" all we could do was laugh. No idea where he picked that one up from.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on February 27, 2018, 02:49:55 PM
Man, I love those wheels... It's good to get family into and excited about your project. (Helps with the funds too)
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on February 27, 2018, 05:24:52 PM
Whiteboard, now it's getting serious.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 01, 2018, 09:14:00 AM
I appreciate all of the compliments! I just keep sanding away. Try to get a little sanding in here and there after dinner. Now I know why they call it paint jail...
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 05, 2018, 07:42:14 AM
Got a little more sanding done this weekend. Since this is new to me it seems to be taking me longer to get the overall shapes that I want, but making progress. The center body line on the driver's fender was way off, which I'm guessing is due to a bad stamping. So I had to drop the body line by about 1/8". For being the first time, I was pretty pleased with the results. Everything is still being shaped right now in 80 grit so I still will have a lot more sanding in my future.

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Quarter panel body line is looking better.

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Started working on the fender to door body lines to get the body line dropped to match the door. I'm loving my gaps :)

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Then after the first round of shaping on the fender. Definitely much happier with that line, but still needs some work. The line on the quarter panel looks like it tips down, but I think it's because of the way the quarter flares out.

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Also if anyone is wondering, I'm using USC Feather-Rite which was what the guy at the body shop recommended. It is working great and easy to sand.

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Also if anyone is having trouble with sanding dust like I was, I looked up some cheap disposable masks but didn't like how they felt. Then I came across this one by 3M, with replacable filters. I picked it up on eBay for $14.50 and it works incredibly well. No more coughing for a day after sanding.

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Lots of work, but not a lot to show for it. Now I know why they call it paint Jail!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on March 05, 2018, 09:12:26 AM
Looking good.  I forget what I got from Lowe's or Home Depot but that 3M mask looks a lot better anyway.  Which I was working on a guitar for my brother the other day and what little dust that put off, in comparison to a car anyway, in a matter of minutes was enough to where I had to get a mask and run the Shop Vac to pick up dust as I worked.  Of course I'm ultra sensitive to things, but I couldn't imagine a day's worth of sanding on a car without protection or clean up during the process.

It's only paint jail if you hold your own car ransome and don't work on it for at least 6 months as you get to higher paying jobs first. :P
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on March 05, 2018, 10:14:30 AM
Looking really good. Line looks great. I am really going to miss the mis matched color panels. Kinda like the General Mayhem from Roadkill.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: MD79TA on March 06, 2018, 06:17:53 AM
Your work is always impressive! Nice job!!!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 06, 2018, 07:49:36 AM
Thanks guys! My first time doing all of the bodywork on my own car. Definitely a learning curve, but I am getting the hang of it. Is it bad that I am starting to see sanding marks in my sleep?

Yes, I love that 3M sanding mask. Best part is it was only $15 bucks on eBay.

It's only paint jail if you hold your own car ransome and don't work on it for at least 6 months as you get to higher paying jobs first. :P

During the day I am an accountant, working on cars is what I do nights and weekends. :-P
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 06, 2018, 08:45:28 AM
Wife went to bed early last night, so I took the opportunity to get some more sanding done. The more that I looked at the body line on the quarter panel, the more I realized that it truly dipped down slightly. I confirmed when I put a straight edge up to it. It was about 1/8" low. So I figured I better fix it now or it will always bug me. Hard to see from the picture, but it's pretty noticeable in person.

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I added some more filler to move the body line up where I wanted it and used a piece of masking tape to guide my line. Not sure if it's correct, but it worked for me.

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After the first round of sanding with 80 grit. Very pleased as it's right where I want it.

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I had to add some more to catch some of the low spots from the first round.

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It's not perfect, but next time I mix up some glaze coat I will fill in the tiny low spots where I didn't add enough filler. Then I switched to the 180 grit paper and it really smoothed things down. Once the low spots are hit the driver's side will be ready for primer. I'm very happy right now with the fit and finish of the body panels and gaps on the driver's side. 

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My buddy with a paint booth told me to get the whole body sanded down to 180 in preparation for the epoxy primer. Hopefully over the next few weeks it will be ready to go to his place for final prep, primer and paint. I'm hoping that maybe tonight I can mix up some of the glaze coat tonight and fill in some of the small low spots. Then it will be done until we block it out with the 2k primers.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: mrbandit on March 06, 2018, 09:03:27 AM
That looks very straight and you will be glad you took care of that line now.  When I had my old bandit painted it needed a lower patch on the rear.  When I got over to see it the painter had it all done and blocked.  Problem was he blended the area where the center body line and wheel open flares some like a flat plateau.  I was very unhappy with it, but I wasn't in a position to complain.  Considering he installed the patch, blocked the whole car and painted it 2 stage black with 2200 clear for the kings ransom of $750. 
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 08, 2018, 07:29:32 AM
Well I went into the garage last night to spread some glaze filler and was planning on letting it sit overnight, but after I filled our outdoor wood boiler around 8pm I came back in through the garage I thought, "let me just see what this looks like when I sand that off." Well I got into a groove and next thing I know it's 11:30 as I sprayed down some primer to check my lines.

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And I had to throw on my rally-sport emblems for fun!

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I'm pumped because the driver's side is sanded down to 180 grit ready for some epoxy! The passenger's side needs to have a little tweaking here and there but I already did quite a bit of the body work before. It really only needs a glaze coat and some panel fitment then it should be ready as well. Next up is to tweak on the front of the driver's fender where it meets the upper valance, slight modification to the lower valance center and then tweak the fitment of the lower valance to the passenger fender extension.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on March 08, 2018, 02:12:27 PM
I think that's usually how it goes, "Here, I'll only work on this for 30 minutes..."
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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 08, 2018, 02:44:09 PM
I think that's usually how it goes, "Here, I'll only work on this for 30 minutes..."

Haha, love the reference.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on March 08, 2018, 05:40:04 PM
Looks great. I personally would round it over a bit, which you may still be planning on doing as the body work progresses. The attention to detail like you have been doing is what separates a nice car from an amazing car. Keep it up.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 09, 2018, 12:24:32 PM
Thanks for the words of encouragement Form. I do plan on rounding the fender and quarter to match the doors once the body work gets further along. I just don't want to lose the lines until I get into the finer grit sandpapers. Everything is down to 180 right now.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on March 09, 2018, 02:10:46 PM
Very Nice. As silly as it sounds I cant wait to get my shop done so I can start doing the same thing. I really enjoy doing the body work.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 12, 2018, 07:31:24 AM
While the family was napping on Sunday afternoon, I was able to get out in my garage for a few hours. I had two things that I needed to finish before the driver's side was done. One was to lightly tap the lower edge of the door to fit up against the rocker panel and the other was to get the very front of the fender to line up with the upper valance panel. I started out by tapping in the bottom of the door. After that was done, I was very pleased with the driver's side fender/door/quarter fitment. Now if I can get the passenger's side to match I will be thrilled.

Now it fits up nice and tight against the rocker like it should.

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Next up was the fender/valance panel fitment. I did everything I could to "massage" the fender to try and get the panel to sit flush but it became clear it needed to be modified.

Fitment before.

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I took my cut off wheel and made a little slice along the inner edge where it needed to be dropped. Then I used my body hammer to lightly tap it down.

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Once I pull the fender off I'm going to weld it shut and no one will ever notice it was modified. I feel like I hit a milestone as the driver's side is all fit and finished until it goes to the body shop. Although I will have a lot of sanding in my future to get the body blocked out the major modifications are behind me. It's now time to turn my attention to the passenger's side. I shouldn't say it, but I believe this side will go much faster. The body gaps are already very close and it doesn't look like I will need to add rods to any of the gaps but time will tell. I turned the car around and I had just been sweeping the sanding dust under the car. This is what accumulated! To give a scale, the pile is about the length of my 24" shop broom.

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And this is the passenger's side as it sits now. I need to move the door forward to match the gaps on the driver's side, and then I can define the body line on the fender. Otherwise I'm happy with it.

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Before I moved the car around, I finally bought the rubber mounts for the front bumper and wanted to test fit that. I figured it would be a good idea to make sure that it fit before I get the car painted. I was pleasantly surprised that it fit right up and was centered next to the upper valance.

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It's getting so close now. I can't wait to see it all painted.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: T A Troy on March 12, 2018, 07:09:56 PM
Extremely nice and some really great work something to really be proud of!!!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on March 13, 2018, 05:34:40 AM
Looks killer! Man, every time I see those wheels I want them for my 67 Camaro. Is it lowered at all? I can't remember.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 13, 2018, 06:10:41 AM
Thanks guys, I appreciate the compliments. I can't say for the front as they are the springs that came in the car. They could be original for all I know, but I believe they are sagging. The rear's are Hotckis 2" drop springs.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 15, 2018, 07:13:47 AM
Since my garage is attached to my house, and with my son's room wall is shared with the garage I have to be very careful how loud I am working at night. I have pushed my limits a few times with an unhappy wife who was woken up... So last night when I got home from work I had to do my "loud stuff". I had to get the grinder out for a few things first of which was fixing a factory flaw along the bottom edge of the door. the door is very straight until the last 2" and it noticeably dips down. It was actually contacting the rocker panel causing some misalignment. It's hard to see in the first picture, but it is pressed against the rocker pushing out.

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And after I trimmed about 3/16 of an inch off to straighten it. It is a little high at the moment, but I did it on purpose as I need to weld the corner edge where I split the skin. Much better now.

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Next thing was to give some attention to the top edge of the fender. It was much higher than where the door, so it needed to be tapped into place.

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You can also see where my marks were where the gap was tight. I just had to open it up slightly with my grinder as well. The front is very consistent now.

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I didn't take a picture as I was working along, but I also had to give some hammer work to the lower fender where it meets the rocker. It had a good bulge at the edge where it must have been dropped at some point. It was very loud, but the body hammers I bought were invaluable. Next on my list is to add a little filler rod to the front lower gap on the door as it isn't straight where the body line comes down. Also need to add some rod to the top rear rounded edge of the door. The rounded edge has a noticeable flat spot that in turn causes a pretty good size gap at the quarter panel.

My wife and I took the day off tomorrow because our daycare provider has the day off as well. Hoping to have a fun day with our little guy. But that also means that I can stay up a little later tonight since I won't have to be up as early tomorrow. I'm hoping to sneak out to the garage tonight and weld up the edges with filler rod so I can start the little filler work that the fender needs.

Looking ahead I had some help putting the SS hood on and got it all fitted up to the car. Now I'm torn though as I really like the classic look of the SS hood, but the cowl hood is very sleek and aggressive looking. I'm torn between the two...

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Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on March 15, 2018, 09:18:54 AM
Awesome work. Looking great!


Just a thought, do both. Cut the vents out of the factory hood and put them in the cowl. Ya, you will be trashing a stock hood, but...

Not sure how it would look. Maybe set the vent on the cowl to see..??
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on March 15, 2018, 03:30:02 PM
JMO, I like the look of the "ice cube trays" on those cars. The CI hood is nice and aggressive looking but screams the 70's to me. (and this is coming from someone with a 77 car, that watches mostly shows made before 1980 etc. etc, lol.)
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on March 15, 2018, 05:16:04 PM
I like the finned ones from 67, looks more stream line to me. Those on the cowl induction...

Just a thought.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Jack on March 15, 2018, 05:55:34 PM
Love that last pic, looks mean and beautiful at the same time.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: scarebird on March 15, 2018, 06:20:05 PM
SS hood. 
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: AirBird1 on March 15, 2018, 08:15:58 PM
Just read through your whole thread Ryan, Awesome work.  I vote for the cowl hood, clean and mean and it fits your wheel selection better.  That is a Great look and has a nice stance to it. Thanks for sharing your build,  I may need to steal your clothes hanger idea for my door gaps! Thanks Randy

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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 19, 2018, 07:49:48 AM
Thanks for all of the feedback on the hood choices. I came to realize this weekend that with the repairs that the SS hood needs, it's going to be much quicker to go with the cowl hood. For me it really came down to being as simple as that. The cowl hood is brand new, and the SS hood is an original hood that needs several small patches that will be time consuming. I'm hoping that once the car is painted that I can have enough left over to spray the SS hood when I have more time prep and repair the hood.

Towards the end of last week I tightened up the fenders/doors/quarters and they are now in final fitment. With that done, I was able to see what needed to be addressed for my gapping and found that several areas needed to be slightly tweaked. I added some welds to the rear upper gap of the fender as it rolled down. Just enough to allow it to be flush, then added a skim coat of body filler.

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I also had to add some filler rod to the upper rear lip of the door as it had a flaw in the curved edge. There was a visible flat spot where it needed to be rounded. I forgot to take a picture as I was working, but same steps as the driver's fender. I also added some weld to the lower edge at the rear of the door as it kicked in which is also a stamping flaw. Again, just a slight amount to bring my gaps where they needed to be.

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I then scuffed the fender down and sprayed some etching primer. Once that dried, I put some a skim coat of filler down to bring my gaps and body lines where they need to be.

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I didn't think that was too bad after two rounds of the skim coat filler! I definitely learned more quickly on this side.

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Before I left for the night, I mixed up just a little more filler and filled in all the low spots that you see. Hoping to sand that off soon then this side should be ready for epoxy! Moving on to this Saturday, I made a trip to one of my favorite places... a pick a part yard. I needed some parts for my truck and there were a few things that I needed to pick up for the Camaro too. The biggest thing that I was looking for was a pair of door wiring boots. I was planning on installing some factory boots, but am finding out that others have had issues with those not having enough room when adding power windows and locks. I need them so that I can drill holes in the body and doors prior to paint. This sad IROC Camaro donated some door boots to my car, too bad as it wasn't in that bad of shape.

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Another part that I have been trying to track down is a small part for the LS1 rear brakes that you cannot buy new. This little boot retainer for the e-brake cable. I have one good one and the other one rusted in half. I spent about 2 hours trying to get little part off because the car had the locking lug nuts with no key in sight. It's in excellent condition and they didn't even charge me for it! Score!

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Now all of this pain and suffering was worth it when I found this note in the door of the Camaro from a nice assembly worker, Budd. Must have been a slow day on the assembly line, or possibly his last day before retirement? I would love to know this story haha. If you can't read it, "Smile Budd loves you"

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Not sure what I am going to do with it, but I found a dirty but nice K&N filter. $2 bucks, Nice.

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Some misc. wiring connectors.

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I didn't need it, but I found this steering wheel for my truck from a loaded Tahoe. My truck originally came with a black steering wheel, but I upgraded to the wheel last year that had the steering wheel buttons. The catch was that it was tan (same color as my interior), but I didn't like it as it was too much tan. Plus my airbag says "GMC" and my truck is a Silverado. So now I can swap the wheels over and put my bowtie back on. :)

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And my score of the day was a pair of 799 heads off of an 06 Trailblazer with the aluminum LM4 5.3 and only 123k miles. I was originally going to pull the whole motor, but forgot that the diff is bolted to the oil pan and I didn't have all the tools to pull the axles and etc... So I pulled just the heads. They are in great shape other than the two exhaust manifold studs that were broke. Luckly, they have enough of the stud sticking out that I can grab onto it with something.

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...After I pulled the heads, I'm glad I didn't pull the motor. Another motor killed by the dreaded DOD lifter failure. The only damage from this carnage to the head was a tiny dent next to the spark plug. Very surprising actually.

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I didn't get much work done on the car this weekend as I spent a good part of the day at this pick a part yard. Hoping to let my hands heal and get back to sanding this week.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on March 19, 2018, 12:48:43 PM
I vote giant blower no hood.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: mrbandit on March 19, 2018, 02:13:20 PM
I've always had a SS hood preference on 67-68's, but I like cowls on the 69'.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 28, 2018, 07:09:39 AM
I didn't get as much done this weekend as I thought, but still making progress. I finally finished up gapping the car and all of the body lines are finished enough for primer. I put the hood on and all of the lines are nearly perfect so I couldn't be happier. Some pictures of the lines and gaps with a light coat of etching primer.

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And the body lines are looking nice and straight.

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Another little task I needed to do was add some of the trim studs that fell off or were cut out. Pretty easy, just drilled a small hole and screwed them in.

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Another cool score that I got was a pair of fiberglass inner fenders. I swapped them even for a set of old Rally wheels I had. It freed up some space in my garage and the metal inner's I have were rusty and needed quite a bit of cleanup. Another benefit is they are about a 1/3 the weight of the steel ones. I should only need to drill some holes for the bolts along the edge, scuff and paint.

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And lastly, and probably most exciting is I finally picked a paint color. The color is GM Torch Red from mid 2000's C5's. Very excited to get this car painted, it has been a long journey. I actually found a car that was for sale a few years ago at Mecum Auctions that was painted the same color. Only difference is this car is a 67, but has the same RS grill. I think I'm going to eventually get a vinyl decal with the nose stripe just like this one. For now it will be a solid color and I'll be picking up the paint this Friday afternoon!

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Equally exciting is I talked with my buddy and I am dropping the car off this Saturday to start with the final prepping before primer. Both my Dad and Father-in-Law have offered to help block sand on one of the next Saturday's. So I'm hoping that between the car being as close as it is with filler, and one whole day of blocking and priming with 3 guys we can get the car into final paint very soon. My buddy also agreed to let me spray the car and he would be there to guide me along the way. I'm pretty excited to have that experience as well.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Jack on March 29, 2018, 03:19:26 PM
That's a nice color and good deal with all of the offered help.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on March 29, 2018, 10:02:41 PM
I have nothing nice to say on the colour choice, because I hate red, other than wooo colour picked out. :lol:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: eroc022 on March 30, 2018, 07:00:30 AM
you can get the ls brake boots now..... i think they were on ebay through one of the vendors not too long ago. FYI
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: fixitrht on April 01, 2018, 08:25:24 PM
Really nice, I just picked up some 779’s myself. Also picked up a procharger but going to have to fab up some plates to mount. So much fun! You always do such great work!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 02, 2018, 07:00:14 AM
Thanks for all of the support guys, really appreciate it. Evan, I saw that they were reproducing the boots, but what I was really after was the boot retainer that you cannot buy new. 799's will surely wake up the motor a little bit, although I will lose a little compression. But I have a feeling the boost will take car of that when the time comes.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 02, 2018, 07:02:06 AM
Knowing that my self imposed deadline to get the car to my buddies body-shop was looming, I made a big push on Thursday night to get some last minute things buttoned up. I didn't get any pictures, but I welded up the cut I made on the driver's fender to match the contour of the upper valance panel. I also had to cut, flatten and weld up an imperfection at the top center bodyline on the lower valance panel. Once welded up I smoothed it right back down with a flap disk. Looks like it was never touched.

Next up was test fitting my new fiberglass inner fenders. They are so much lighter than the stock inners and they look almost identical to the stock ones. I had to drill the holes so they could bolt up to the fender, core support, and battery tray. I also had to cut holes for the RS headlight arm. Here it is all fit and installed. Very pleased with the fit and finish of the fenders.

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Finally got to use the hole saw kit that I bought 5 months ago. Very pleased as it does such a nice job.

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Now it bolts up just like it should.

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Then when I was pulling the passenger fender off one last time for final fitment of the inner, I noticed this little sticker. It's a NOS fender! This one fit the best out of the two and that is why. When I was sanding the outside of the front I saw where someone wrote on the outside "1968 Camaro NOS", but I assumed it wasn't a real one since someone primed right over it. Nice!

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Since I sold the truck coils, I needed to get the LS1 coils on so that I could get the car running to drive it on the trailer. I also got to install the brand new MSD wires I have had for a while.

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It was a really warm day on Thursday so I had the garage doors open, and when I was cleaning things up I noticed this little guy. I'm thinking he stopped in to wish me luck.

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Then Friday after work I stopped by the paint shop and dropped off a bunch of cash. In return I picked up all of my paint supplies, 2k primer, paint, clear, and everything needed to mix them all up. I also got tape, masking paper, and enough black paint for my dash board.

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Then Saturday came and it was time to get the car to my buddies house. What a day... I had hoped that I could just swing by my Dad's pick up his trailer quick, drop my car off at my buddies and maybe get some primer on the car. Well it didn't work at all like that. Got to my dad's house, the trailer had a flat tire, turning signals didn't work and it wasn't registered. So after a half hour we fixed the flat and sorta got the signals working. I was only going about 5 miles down the road, so I wasn't overly concerned with just a trailer registration, but my Dad said he would try and register it online when I left. Then I get to the house, hook up my battery and the car will barely run. Sounds like it's running on about 4 cylinders. I check my scanner to see if there are any DTC's, and it has 10! 2 related to not having my cooling fans hooked up, and the other 8 are coil related codes. Something isn't right with those LS1 coils I swapped on... So not to be discouraged, I coasted my car down to the trailer and used the clutch to hold it in place. Lined it up on the trailer and used a ratchet strap to inch is up. Finally got it where I wanted it and strapped down and on my way, about 2.5 hours later than I wanted to be.

I got the car to a flat spot in my driveway and had to snap a few pictures as the sunshine was making for a perfect photo.

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All in all, I can't really complain as I accomplished what I wanted to and after talking with my buddy we (me with his suggestive guidance) are going to bust ass to get this done by the end of April. Now she is sitting happy in someone else's garage. Not sure how I feel about that...

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It feels really weird to have an empty spot in my garage.

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I hate wishing away time, but I can't wait until the end of this month to see this car painted! It's so close I can almost taste it.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on April 02, 2018, 07:51:04 AM
Wow! That is awesome! If you get this painted by the end of April you will have busted some serious butt and beat me too. Good luck man I can't wait to see it either.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: LeighP on April 02, 2018, 12:48:18 PM
Just got caught up with your progress....its looking great!  :cool:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on April 03, 2018, 07:41:02 AM
Your day of moving the car sounds like me. It seems whenever I have things planned out to the minute there is a litany of things that go the other way. Glad you got it to the shop. I know what you mean by the empty garage. My car sat in the same spot for 4 years before it went to the shop, it was strange when I looked out there and it was gone. I took the opportunity to renovate the space when it was gone. 
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: fixitrht on April 03, 2018, 01:09:29 PM
I can’t wait!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 04, 2018, 06:03:13 AM
Thanks guys for all the positive feedback. I'm stoked to get this thing painted. I got my permission slip to work Wednesday's and Friday's after work with a good portion of Saturday's as well. I have a very understanding wife!  :cool:

Also was just looking at the calendar and it's been over 4 years now since I sold my old '76. Time sure flies...
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on April 04, 2018, 02:02:14 PM
That toad though, should make it the official mascot of this build.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 06, 2018, 12:33:18 PM
Worked on the car for a few hours Wednesday night. My buddy helped me by spreading out some filler to smooth out the wavy quarter panels and trunk panel. It was amazing to watch him work and spread out the filler. It really is an art form to watch an experienced person do bodywork. I helped him block sand and we got the body looking really good.

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After he went to bed, I stayed for another few hours getting some little things done. First thing on my list was making sure that the driver's side inner fender fit correctly. Because the inners are fiberglass I had to drill many of the holes. So it took a while to fit the inner to the outer, then put back on the car to make sure it fit right. Then take it back off drill a few more holes, rinse/lather/repeat. Once all the holes were drilled, I could focus on getting the holes drilled for the RS headlight lever.

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Driver's side fits and clears everything, Nice!

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Hoping to have the shell in primer over this weekend, but time will tell. Just gotta keep on truckin'.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on April 06, 2018, 12:39:52 PM
Looking forward to Mondays post.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 12, 2018, 07:36:53 AM
I didn't get a chance to work on my car at all last weekend (wife's grandfather passed), but I did get over to my buddies house last night. This time I made a list for myself to get things done if I get "lost".

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I started off by finally getting to the lower cowl patch that I have been putting off. The little bit of rust needed to be cut out and replaced with new metal. I started off by cutting out the rusted areas, made cardboard templates, then welded the patches in. It's so much nicer working in my buddies shop with all the metal working tools. Metals brake, large anvil, and large IR compressor.

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Then just when I thought I was done, I was wire wheeling this area and this popped up... Cut it out and make a little patch. I didn't bother grinding it down as nobody will see it.

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Kinda tough to see, but all painted now.

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Then we did a final test fit the rear bumper to make sure that it was going to fit properly. So glad we did because the hole was way off on the passenger side. We ended up having to elongate the hole about 5/8" to the rear and 1/2" up. The driver's side was really good, but we did have to shift the hole forward about 1/4" to be centered.

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Earlier I found this template on a google search and used it as a reference to cut my holes. I found two people on Camaros.net that confirmed that the distance between the bumper hole and the first stud hole on the marker light was 4 3/4". I used those measurements along with the template I found to calculate the locations for the holes. This should be useful for anyone else in my shoes.

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After taking several measurements from the body lines, bumpers and wheel openings I was able to determine that the holes and bumpers were within a close margin of being square. I felt comfortable enough to start drilling some holes. I started on the driver's side as it was the better fitting side.

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And the passenger side.

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Once I had the two marker light bezel stud holes drilled, I traced out the holes I will need for the marker light itself. I drilled a tiny hole in each of the corners to use a guide to make my straight cuts. I held off on cutting those out until I could get someone's second opinion. Easier to fill a tiny hole than welding up a big hole and re-drilling and etc. After the holes were drilled I removed the sticky backed paper.

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I'm planning on going back on Friday night to get the roof stripped and getting the shell a little bit closer to final sand before prime. I can't wait! Also, on a slightly related note, I was able to get the car running again. I found a good price on a set of used LS1 coils, so I thought I would give them a try. I swapped out the coils, and it fired right up! Not sure what the issue was with the other coils, but it's back to running/driving now!

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Jack on April 12, 2018, 02:54:15 PM
I thought that you were done with the body work? also did the car not come with the side marker lights or did you get a patch that did not have them?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 13, 2018, 05:56:35 AM
I actually forgot about that small little patch that needed to be done on the cowl. I probably could have let it go and replaced it later, but I really don't want to tear it apart when it's all back together. As it is I need to pull the motor/trans to swap the oil pan. I am also going to install a remote bleeder for the slave cylinder while I have it out... I'm also likely going to get a new slave cylinder while I have it all apart. Oh, and I need to notch my frame for low mount AC and alternator.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on April 13, 2018, 08:58:36 AM
Ryan, I cant remember if you sent out an email re: Carlisle, but if you want send me another with your info if youre still planning on going. I am planning on meeting up with Tom and Kevin.
Kerry
morgandane@zoominternet.net
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: tribute on April 14, 2018, 07:06:24 AM
You do amazing work and it is fun seeing all the steps and progress you have made.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: fixitrht on April 15, 2018, 09:26:12 AM
Saw your 76 on Craigslist in Centerville Ohio. 24,900. Was and is a cool car
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 16, 2018, 07:53:35 AM
I figured it was a matter of time before it popped up for sale again. I think he wants my 68 now, but not now that I'm so close to it being done :cool:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 16, 2018, 07:54:33 AM
I hit it hard this weekend and I got a lot scratched off of my list. I have to say, I have really underestimated how much time it has taken to finish all of the little items on my list. I was hoping to be further along at this point, but just like always it takes longer than I think. I started right in on the car and didn't waste any time. I got my grinder hooked up and cut the holes out for the rear marker lights. I was very pleased with the results as they came out perfectly and the marker lights had a snug fit.

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Next up was fixing this oblonged hole that I had to move because it didn't line up with the bumper mounts. I traced it to cardboard, traced my template to steel, fit it up and welded it solid. Made it sound easy, but this took some time.

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Pulled out the grinder and flap disk to smooth it out. Then I used a carbide bit to get the hole round again.

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Next up was cleaning up and welding on the rocker panel where I couldn't reach when the door was on. It cleaned up really nice and just needs a little filler to disappear.

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Knowing eventually I wanted to have power windows/locks/puddle lights?/etc. I had to cut some holes for rubber door boots. At the advice of others who have done this before with stock boots, I opted for the larger diameter 3rd gen Camaro boots. I heard feedback that when you add PW/PL and other components that the stock boots are too small of diameter and run out of room. The 3rd gen boots have tons of space and fit quite nicely.

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Drilled and fit the boot on the door side.

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Everything looks and fits great.

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In between welding the quarter panel waiting for it to cool, I started stripping out the trim/lights/some wiring/etc. and thought I would share this. I thought it was pretty cool because this piece of trim has been here for 50 years and I'm the first one to take it off! Pretty amazing to me.

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It was hard to get a picture with the bright lights, but you can see the original LeMans blue paint behind the trim!

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I also pulled the headliner and I was glad that I didn't find any other little rusty surprises. Just a rather large mouse nest.

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The pictures are kinda jumping around, but that is basically how I was working. Switching tasks rather quickly to try and maximize my time and efforts. I took care of a few other small fitment issues, like these holes on the lower valance. The driver's side fit great, but the passenger side needed the holes enlarged.

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Moving on I stripped this fender as there was evidence that some light rust had either started through the original primer, or someone actually sprayed primer over some light surface rust. Either way it needed to be stripped.

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I kept the fender on the car while I stripped it so that it wouldn't move around. After it was good, I pulled it off to get to some other items on my list. I started stripping the roof, but at this point it was about 2am and I called it quits.

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Here's a picture of the mess I made.

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I went to sleep at ~2am Saturday and was back there at 8am. I worked until about noon, but didn't get any more photos because my phone only had 15% battery. I'll get some more hopefully this Wednesday night when I'm back there.

The next day I stacked up all the parts I striped off and stacked them in my storage closet in my basement. I'm hoping to have all of this cleared off in the next month or so!

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The Spring Carlisle show is this week and I plan on going Thursday and Friday with my dad. We have gone just about every year since I was about 18. Good time to spend together enjoying cars and the swap meets.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: silver78 on April 17, 2018, 06:41:16 PM
looking good. your wife must be very understanding of your hobby and that's great.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: TATurbo on April 17, 2018, 08:35:26 PM
Awesome work.  I have to say though...Just when I thought I was getting somewhere getting my motor ready to go in, you remind me of the year or so of body and paint work ahead after that!  Luckily, I plan on pawning the body work off to my brother who has a shop in TN.   He introduced me to my '81 TA (A neighbor of his had just finished a refresh on it in '90).  He introduced us and I talked the guy into selling it to me a couple months later.  My brother technically owned my car for a little while when I lost my license and couldn't register/insure it.  And, he drove it as a a DD for a few months when one of his cars blew up.  Point being, it's like an old friend to him too.  So, it'll be in good hands. 

Anyway, you mentioned being amazed watching your friend do his thing.  I'm feeling same watching you do your thing.  The body looks great, and I love the paint color!

Keep at it!

-Tom
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 23, 2018, 07:28:31 AM
My dad and I try to attend the car show and swap meet in Carlisle, PA every year as sort of a kickoff event for summer. Just like every time that we attend I'm sore, but come back with a ton of good parts. This year was no exception, and with that was no forward progress on my Camaro. It was great meeting Tom and Kevin at the Ames Tent this year! Good guys and it was nice putting a screen name and build project with a face. Let's do it again next year!

As we were getting breakfast, we looked out to see this rod coming out of a trailer before we even got to the show.  :cool:

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Looks a lot warmer in this picture than it really was. Probably about 37* at that time

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Ok, you have my attention!

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Pretty funny haha.

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Thought this was cool. I found a take out 2016 LT1 motor and wanted to take some pictures of the bellhousing bolts. I knew that the upper mount was moved over to account for the DI pump, but otherwise it looks identical.

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Here are all of my deals from the show and the beautiful 18 year old I picked up on the way back. :)

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First up was a complete set of Z51 brakes off of a 2008 C6 Corvette. Lower mileage and the guy only took them off to upgrade to a Z06 brake package and widebody kit. When he was done upgrading his car, he wrecked it 1 week after it was all finished out of paint...

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They cleaned up nicely! Just shy of 13.5".

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Next was a paint of Holley EFI fuel rails with a liquid filled gauge and braided crossover.

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Pair of very good condition OEM door levers and 68 front marker lights. Although I found out later that mine are supposed to be clear. Oh well, maybe I'll try them and see what they look like.

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This was one of my better deals of the day. Pair of brand new 67-68 RS reverse lights, lenses, gaskets, plus one 67 RH RS turn signal housing, pair of lenses and gaskets. Plus some kind of 67 RS front turning signal harness from American Autowire. $25 bucks :)

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One of my bigger purchases was a new dual pass radiator. I didn't "need" one, but the dual pass radiator helps with my LS swap for many reasons. First reason is that the LS motors all have both coolant ports on the passenger side which eliminates my issue of the CAI and coolant return line trying to occupy the same space. Secondly it should help with my cooling as it comes with an integrated fan shroud. Lastly I just really like the way that it looks. Very pleased with the quality of it. This vendor was called Auto City Classics, and all of their stuff is made in house and came with a lifetime warranty! I saw several vendors there for the "eBay" radiators and they were what you would expect, but these are top notch in my opinion. There was another vendor there Cold Case, and to the untrained eye I thought they looked almost identical. Nice welds, laser cut brackets, and integrated fan shroud with vents. Best of all the guy mis-spoke and stuck to his word. Should have cost $290 ($230 radiator and $60 shroud), but he said $260 and stuck to it. The Penny Pincher thanks you ACC!

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And this is the fan that I picked up last summer from a pick a part yard! Fits nicely.

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Inner and outer heater boxes. My inner box was very rusty, and I bought the outer box because it has a fan and was very cheap.

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I also picked up some other misc. parts along the way but those were the big ones. Very successful show in my opinion and one of my best. I also picked up an LS2 throttlebody and TBSS intake manifold for good prices and will flip them to help offset my expensive trip. Then on the way home I had been texting a guy on LS1tech about a 70K mile LS1 shortblock and we made a deal. He was about 45 mins out of my way on the way home and I decided to swing over to pick it up. Definitely didn't need it but the price was right. It was a little grimy but cleaned up nicely.

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Nice break from bodywork, but I do plan to hit it hard this week and maybe this week see it in one color!

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Jack on April 23, 2018, 11:08:11 AM
Good score and spending time with your father - priceless.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 27, 2018, 08:07:00 AM
Thanks Jack. It's something we have always bonded over. I enjoy working on and talking about cars with him.

I went to work on the car after the family went to sleep Monday and last night. I haven't had much to take pictures of since the panels don't look much different. I did however snap some as most of the body panels are prepped for primer. I'm hoping that we can get some laid down tonight. I just need a little bit more filler in some places and final sand and we should be able to spray. Here's the panels right before I left.

Roof is stripped. Wow, this takes forever!

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Quarter panel to roof lines looking very good.

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Doors are scuffed down with a DA sander and just need to be flipped over to scuff the inside.

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I also added a skim coat to the rocker panel where I had to stitch it back together.

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I stripped the passenger side fender and my buddy added a skim coat to some areas. Just need to block that down

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In other news, I test fit my new to me Z51 front brakes! For those that don't know, the new taller caliper abutment brackets and 13.4" factory drilled rotors are a brake package available on the C6 Corvette's. I ended up getting a complete set of front and rear brakes this year at Carlisle, but wanted to keep my C5 calipers. Great thing is since I already converted over to the C5 platform, I literally upgraded to the bigger brakes in about 20 mins total. It took me about 10 mins a side to swap over to C6 Big brakes! The C6 calipers and my old base C5 brackets are sold so I had to swap them out.

Size comparison, C5 vs. C6 Z51. I never had the car on the road with the C5 brakes, but I will report how the Z51 brakes feel soon.

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Little tighter, but I knew they would fit as I had already tested them with the Kore3 template. Still plenty of room so no worries about them contacting the wheels.

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Lastly, a little teaser. I finally decided to crack open the paint to see what it looks like. So excited to get it sprayed on the car!

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Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 30, 2018, 09:38:19 AM
Yes! I told my wife that my arms (from sanding) and legs (from standing up and sitting constantly) feel like I have been at the gym lifting for the past month! Maybe this is the silver lining!

I was plugging away again this Friday night and Saturday morning/early afternoon. I was hoping to get more done, but  I ran into a little hurdle. I have been busy prepping the body and fixing the small little details in preparation for the epoxy and 2K primers. I started on the passenger side making sure that all surfaces are scuffed and ready for good adhesion. Worked my way do the tail panel, and as I was buzzing the panel just to the right of the filler I noticed something didn't feel right. the more I sanded the more filler I found. So, we ended up having to break out the stud gun and pull a rather large dent.

Hard to see in this picture, but it is very dented.

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After pulling the dents out probably 1/4"

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It all worked out though as we also needed to pull a good size dent on the filler panel between the deck lid and the rear window. First round of filler work.

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Round 2

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And the final round. Pretty proud because I actually spread all of the filler on the tail and filler panels. My buddy signed off on them and said they looked good enough to lay down some primer.

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As I was getting close to wrapping it up for the day, I realized that I wasn't going to lay down the primer today. I was a little disappointed because I was really hoping to get the body in primer this weekend, but I also want it done right. I prepped all window channels, scuffed and feather in the door jambs, sanded all surfaces on the roof, both quarters, deck lid and tail panel. As it sits now, Wednesday night when I go back to work on it we will mask, final wax and grease removal and spraying some epoxy! Here is the car as it sits now.

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It's very cool knowing that the car is so close to the primer, but I fully realize that there are a ton of tiny imperfections that will need to be fixed before it's ready for the Torch Red and clear. Starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel so that is encouraging, but honestly I'm getting pretty burnt out. I underestimated the time-frame it was going to take to get it into color. I fully anticipated it coming home this weekend from paint. Lesson learned.

To change things up to something a little easier and much more fun, I helped my almost 3 year old do his first oil change! He always wants to help with whatever I'm doing. I told him that we had to wait to put new oil in until the old oil was done dripping out. So he proceeded to pull up a bucket and wait for it to stop dripping. 5 seconds later he was doing something else, but I loved this picture!

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In other news, I am in the process of building up that LS1 shortblock that I just picked up and am about 95% sure that I will be swapping my 5.3 for it in the near future. I actually have to pull the motor and trans anyway as I have to swap out the truck oil pan and notch the frame. So, I'm thinking why do it twice? As I was looking through my parts stash, I realized that I actually have the majority of the parts that I can put together a pretty stout motor. Setup is going to be the LS1 shortblock, 799 heads, LS2 cam (same as the 02+ LS6 Cam) with the supporting mods like upgrade pushrods, and valve springs. Should essentially make myself a budget LS6 engine and should make around ~380 rwhp from reading similar setups. I am converting over to a front cam sensor so I can run the LS2 cam if anyone is wondering about that. More on that build to come.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on April 30, 2018, 03:46:32 PM
It's worth the wait to get things right the first time versus rushing and the results not being good and having to redo it, consequently taking a lot more time and work than if you had just waited.  It's terribly frustrating not getting things done when you want them done though, and it can be hard not to try and hurry things.

Haha, that last picture is too cute though.  Makes me think of something off a father's day card or the like.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 03, 2018, 06:19:54 AM
Box, you are totally right just do it right the first time. Patience is a virtue and that is something this project has taught me.

Huge milestone update for me for several reasons. I went to my buddies house last night and we finally got the car into primer! When I got there there was still several area's that needed attention and once those were addressed, we got right to work. I ran over the whole car with 180 grit and a red scotch brite pad then followed up with some wax and grease remover. My buddy mixed up the primer, got the gun set-up and did a few test panels, then gave me a few pointers and said "Here you go, do your thing!"

Here's the car all taped up and masked off.

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Then after the first coat of epoxy primer.

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After that we followed-up with one more coat of the epoxy primer. Once that flashed I sprayed on three more coats of the 2k primer. I was into a groove and didn't really notice until I finished up with the third coat that it was all one solid color!

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We also hit the doors with 180 on the DA and sprayed those with just the 3 coats of the 2k primer. He didn't feel we needed to use the epoxy on the doors since they already had a good base of the previous color.

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After the fumes cleared out we went in and I couldn't stop looking at it. For one it was all one color and the body was looking really good to me, and for two I was the one that sprayed down 95% of it! Yesterday was a great day for me in several ways. I'm looking forward to blocking it out and taking it to the next stage which is paint!

My buddy sent me some action shots of me too.

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Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Jack on May 03, 2018, 07:05:00 AM
Looking good.
Question - were you actually spraying when the pics were taken or just posing lol.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 76455sd on May 03, 2018, 07:46:23 AM
very nice.  It'll be on the road in no time!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on May 03, 2018, 07:51:10 AM
Always a great feeling to have it all in one color, even if it is just primer. Body work looks great from where I sit. Now get back to work block sanding, you have a long road of it ahead but progress has been very steady so you should be done in no time.

Looks great!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on May 03, 2018, 09:37:46 AM
Good job! Back in the day that would be finished paint job. I think half the "hot rods" in my school parking lot were in red primer. LOL. Now the fun begins.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 03, 2018, 09:58:03 AM
Looking good.
Question - were you actually spraying when the pics were taken or just posing lol.

Well... that was actually my stunt double filling in for me.  :cool:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 07, 2018, 07:06:17 AM
I have been trying to make steady progress on the car, but the yard work is starting to pile up as well as that feeling of being burnt out from the project. I'm trying to stay focused on the light at the end of the tunnel and seeing the car in final color! My friend Randy (who's letting me paint the car at his body shop) said that the car is looking pretty good and we should have the car painted in about 2 weeks if we keep up this pace. So that's what I'm trying to target.

I started by putting a skim coat on the passenger fender on Friday night. After watching Randy do it a few times, I decided to give it a try. Surprisingly enough, it turned out pretty good and only needed one more small coat where the wheel lip was. I then added an icing coat to fill in some of the pinholes.

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Then I started to look over the other body panels to see what needed to be addressed. I knew that the cowl pieced needed some cleanup as there were some rusty areas on it so I started with that. I broke out the bead blaster and cleaned up some of the areas behind the grill openings where I really couldn't get with sandpaper easily. It turned out really great, although I noticed afterwards that I may have warped 2-3 of them just slightly. I think I will just need to tap them down slightly with a body hammer though. Should be a simple fix.

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Should be all ready for some epoxy primer now. Then I put some of the extra icing I had on the stamping marks left on the lower valance panel. Otherwise, the upper and lower panels are good to go. Just need to scuff and prime.

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All the body panels are now prepped and ready to shoot epoxy and 2k next time I work on the car. Then we should be able to focus on block sanding and getting all the panels ready for round two of 2k priming.

I bought a few parts to get that LS1 shortblock I bought a few weeks ago back together. I picked up an LS2 cam and 1x cam sprocket a long time ago, but still needed a Gen4 timing cover with front cam sensor to complete the swap. Since I needed a timing cover for the motor anyway, I figured it was a good opportunity to convert it over so I could use that cam. The guy I bought the cover from also gave me all of the bolts, covers, truck balancer, re-usable gaskets, and extras for me to put together a complete engine. At this point, I only need a new valley cover gasket, new front and rear crank seals and an ARP crank bolt to have a complete long block. If I decide to swap my 5.3, I will re-use the loaded intake and accessories, then sell the 5.3.

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And lastly, I took a break this Saturday and went on a self-guided wine tour. We we went with my sister-in-laws and their boyfriends and had a great time. We couldn't have asked for a better day as it was sunny and 70's. It was great to spend time with her and get out and enjoy the weather. We live in the Finger Lakes region of NY and sometimes take it for granted that we have roughly 40 winery's in about an hours drive from our house, and they all have amazing views just like this.

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Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 07, 2018, 07:33:54 AM
I forgot to add a few pictures of the car on the lift and getting ready to block sand and do some finishing touches on the rockers and lower body. All sprayed with the guide coat, and just waiting for someone to sand it.

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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Jack on May 07, 2018, 03:20:45 PM
All sprayed with the guide coat, and just waiting for someone to sand it.

Where is your son? you need to start him early :lol:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Bobby G on May 07, 2018, 05:56:08 PM
Is that Seneca Lake ??
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 08, 2018, 05:29:33 AM
Where is your son? you need to start him early :lol:
That may just work. I'll report back haha.

Bobby, very close. That picture was taken at Buttonwood Grove Winery on Cayuga Lake.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on May 08, 2018, 06:06:18 AM
I took a day trip and rode my bike up into the finger lakes, beautiful area. Now get back to work and get some paint on that car!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 10, 2018, 06:29:29 AM
Yes Sir. Here are some more updates, haha.  8)

I was very happy with the progress from last night. I finally got the cowl panel and fenders to a point that I could spray on the epoxy primer. I also scuffed up the upper and lower valance panels, and I used the same process of 2 coats epoxy and 3 coats of 2K primer. Initially I could see some small imperfections when spraying the fenders, but they slowly went away and some even disappeared.

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And all the panels that are ready for some guide coat and block sand. I still need to pull the door hinges, bead blast the driver's side, install the rollers/springs and epoxy/2k. The only other panels left are the hood and the lower fender extensions. Getting close now.

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Then while that was drying I turned my attention to the shell. I started on the trunk and driver's quarter. Not much to show other than a lot of sanding. Wow, are my arms sore today!

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Then a little more sanding and the deeper scratches are starting to disappear. I started to hit some of the epoxy coat so I decided to stop.

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Rinse and repeat for the passenger's side.

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Then after both quarters were sanded as far as I dared. All of the little black spots will need to have a little skim coat of filler. Once that cures we can go back and blend it in and re-shoot everything with another round of 2k.

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I'm super happy with the way that the roof came out. There was minimal filler on it when we first sprayed down the epoxy and 98% of the blemished sanded out.  :D

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And one more of the trunk after a little more sanding. Same story, little skim coat, then sand, then more 2k.

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Very stoked to be this far along. If I can keep up this amount of progress, I think I'll be on track to have the color and clear coats in about 2 weeks.  8-)

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: MNBob on May 10, 2018, 10:26:03 AM
Your work is looking great!  That is a lot of work and a lot of progress.  I think most don't realize how much work it is to prep and paint a whole car, unless they have been through it.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 10, 2018, 11:24:26 AM
Your work is looking great!  That is a lot of work and a lot of progress.  I think most don't realize how much work it is to prep and paint a whole car, unless they have been through it.
Yes, myself included! I severely underestimated the amount of time and effort it takes to paint a car.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on May 10, 2018, 11:40:00 AM
Wow! You are cruising man. Those panels look awesome! I don't think mine will come out that good. Keep it up. That is amazing progress.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on May 10, 2018, 03:45:46 PM
Looking good!  Definitely can see the light at the end of the tunnel!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on May 10, 2018, 05:47:39 PM
Fine job youre doing. I guess we all should change the name of this process from painting a car, to sanding a car. The actual paint part is a minimal part of the whole process.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: silver78 on May 15, 2018, 07:57:01 AM
Looking great.  All that rubbing on your car takes the relationship to a more intimate level. lol.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 16, 2018, 06:09:16 AM
Thanks for all of the compliments guys. And yes, at this point I have had my hands on every square inch of this body.  :shock:

Before I started any filler work yesterday, I decided to pull the LS6 valley cover off the 5.3 since I will be selling the long block and putting together the LS1 I picked up. The problem is I made a huge rookie mistake. When I loosened the intake, and rather than disconnecting the throttle cable and fuel line I thought it would be faster to just tip it upside down onto the cowl. Big mistake as all the intake bolts fell out. While I was checking to see if all the bolts and washers were there, I found one of the tiny washers was missing! I looked all around and took a magnet to the intake ports with no luck finding it. After probably 45 mins of looking and checking with a magnet, I flipped the intake back over and I was extremely lucky that the missing washer was stuck to the intake. Moral of the story, take the bolts out first before you flip the intake! Hopefully that will help someone else from doing what I did...

I am progressing slow but steady. Doesn't look like much, but I had to walk around the car and literally fill any small imperfection with some skim coat/icing filler. What the car looked like after several hours.

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Since the car is on the lift, I took advantage of it and put it up in the air to get to the lower sections of the body. Rockers, lower quarters and etc.

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Luckily the roof only had two small sections that needed some filler. Really happy about that as the roof is such a large area and will be a main section that people will be looking at once painted.

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It was very humid here and the filler didn't want to cure fully so it was loading up the sandpaper. I decided to call it a night rather than risk making it worse. I moved on to other tasks and sprayed some guide coat and blocked out the fenders. Both turned out pretty good. The driver's side will need more skimming than the passenger side, but there weren't any significant imperfections that need to be filled, just maybe 2 dozen small spots. The lower fender extensions were also stripped and I will shoot them in epoxy once the hood is sanded and ready to prime.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on May 16, 2018, 08:15:47 AM
Great progress. Quick tip. Take some some old sandpaper and scuff the filler once it skins over. That helps it cure a bit quicker.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 17, 2018, 02:00:35 PM
That's smart, I will try that next time I'm there. There is certainly much more left to do so this will come in handy.   8)
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on May 17, 2018, 06:52:20 PM
Also, before I sand on filler I gab some old sand paper and just run it over it real quick. That seems to pull the gun out of it so it does gum up your good/new paper on your sanding block.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: jonathonar89 on May 18, 2018, 06:54:08 AM
Awesome to see your progress Ryan!  Wish I could do the same myself.  Hopefully soon.  Trying to finish graduate school by next summer.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 21, 2018, 06:55:25 AM
Thanks Form, I used those tricks and it worked great!

Made some solid progress Friday night into early Saturday morning. I learned the hard way that when body filler is fully cured, it becomes much harder to sand. It took me a good part of the night to sand all of the spots flush, but I was very pleased to find that I fixed 95% of the tiny imperfections. There were just a few spots that I found as I was sanding that needed a little attention, but I will be able to get them all taken care of on this last round of sanding before the final prime. Here's the body all prepped with wax and grease remover right before I primed.

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After a little trial and error with the gun settings I figured out how to get the product down smooth again. We have a gun cleaning station in his booth and must be when the priming gun was dissembled last (sorry don't know the correct name) the needle seat that controls the flow of product was too far out. It was almost spraying it out like bedliner. By that time, Randy had gone to bed so I was on my own. Stressful at the time because my gun was full of primer, but luckily I know just enough about how they work to get by. So after messing with the flow and air pressure settings for a minute, I figured out how to get it to flow out nicely.

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On Saturday afternoon, while my wife was away with her sister's and my son was napping I had a few spare minutes to finally look over the LS1 I picked up a while ago. I wanted to see how it would clean up and see if it was something I wanted to use. After a little elbow grease, I was pleasantly surprised that everything appeared to be great. No funny sounds and I got all of the gaskets off of the deck surface. I figured while I was there I would also clean off the carbon deposits on top of the pistons.

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I took my time and used a brand new razor blade and a light scuffing with a scotch brite pad. I've heard of people using one of the air tools and a scuff pad, but with the aluminum I've heard people taking to much off and the gaskets wouldn't seal properly. I also found that when I soaked the graphite in WD-40 and it helped to scrape it off a little easier. Then I cleaned up the stock LS2 Cam I have had for a while and put it into the block along with the 1x cam wheel and LS2 chain.

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I picked up some LS7 lifters, trays and an oil pump from the guy I bought the motor from. They were the parts that came out of this engine and supposed to have about 5k miles on them. I should be getting them today and then I can work on getting this motor together again. Before I sell the 5.3 I want to make sure that this will be a solid motor. I'm hoping to get this together and time it right so that when the shell is painted and back at my house that I can pull the 5.3, notch the frame, and then reinstall the LS1 to make sure it runs properly. My list keeps growing, but I do it to myself...

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on May 21, 2018, 07:08:03 AM
Car is looking good. Now, get some colour on it. LOL
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on May 21, 2018, 08:32:08 AM
Body looks really good. Are you sure you're not a professional?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: duffinatur on May 21, 2018, 08:45:20 AM
Nice progress, Ryan!
My dad used to say: Block and primer, block and primer...and when you think you're there, do it 1 more time.
Just curious: are you blocking across the gaps? (trunk lid/doors/fenders)
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 21, 2018, 09:42:13 AM
Kerry, you have no idea how badly I want to just spray the base/clear...

Thanks Form I appreciate the compliment.

Duff, no I'm not blocking across the gaps. I'm sure that the doors, fenders, etc won't line up 100% but they were really close before, so I'm not too worried about perfection. But I'm sure it will be better than it was 50 years ago.  :-D
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on May 21, 2018, 03:13:32 PM
At least you have hands on contact in getting things done and can work at your schedule. It must be extremely frustrating to be reliant upon a shop to get that step finished. I actually enjoy'd doing the body work and paint on my car, and am looking forward to getting the next project started. But it was nerve wracking the 6 months or so the shop had my car to install the motor. I wish I had more control over that step. With this next build I am going to try and be more proactive with the motor part.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 79merlin on May 21, 2018, 05:41:12 PM
Excellent progress Ryan. I was somehow 5 pages behind on your build. When I got caught up I see you are mastering the body work skillset. I am always amazed at how fast you are able to move your projects along. I am about 1/3 of the way through a project half the size of yours and I am a solid year from being where you are...

I would like to know more about the fuel lines you are using. Nylon hose. I am planning to go that way when I LS my 79. Is it 3/8? Are you running the vette style filter / regulator? Is all of the fuel line the same size? You don't happen to have a list of the fittings you used do you?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on May 21, 2018, 07:54:21 PM
5.7>5.3, so it's like you have to. :P
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 22, 2018, 05:52:16 AM
Excellent progress Ryan. I was somehow 5 pages behind on your build. When I got caught up I see you are mastering the body work skillset. I am always amazed at how fast you are able to move your projects along. I am about 1/3 of the way through a project half the size of yours and I am a solid year from being where you are...

I would like to know more about the fuel lines you are using. Nylon hose. I am planning to go that way when I LS my 79. Is it 3/8? Are you running the vette style filter / regulator? Is all of the fuel line the same size? You don't happen to have a list of the fittings you used do you?

Thanks Merlin. It takes a lot of dedication and coordination on my part. I really enjoy working on my cars, so if/when I do have free time 9/10 times I'm working on it. Or in this case I make my own free time between the hours of 9-12pm, and in many cases even later. Who needs sleep anyway... :shock:

As for the fuel lines, I am using the Dorman 3/8 Nylon fuel lines that you can get just about anywhere. For this swap I am using a Vaporworx modified 5th gen fuel pump which is internally regulated and fuel is returned internally back into the fuel pump assembly. Because of this, I only have one line running from the fuel pump assembly to the fuel rail. I ended up using two of the Dorman Straight GM quick connect fittings and pressed them on using the caulk gun method. I think I have pictures somewhere. I think I have about $40 bucks into the fuel lines on this car.

5.7>5.3, so it's like you have to. :P

Absolutely. Not that I need to justify it, but I should be gaining about 100 hp and dropping 100 lbs. with that swap. :cool:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 23, 2018, 06:10:52 AM
Made a little more progress last night also. I sprayed on a guide coat and block sanded the shell for a 2nd time and it is really close now. Other than a third coat of primer the roof is done, the deck lid is done, both door jambs are done, and both quarter sides are done. I still have some issues that popped up on the rear valance panel, top body line of the quarters and passenger side c pillar. I ran out of time last night to finish with those issues, but its very close at this point. I also need to spread a skim coat on the rocker panels. I am just waiting until I put it on the lift again so I don't have to do it upside down. I am hopefully going to fix those issues on Friday night, then I can spray on a final prime.

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I also did a first block sand on the doors and I was very pleased at how close they were. I should be able to do a small skim coat on a few little areas and I believe it will be ready for a final prime. I'm not really surprised since they were off of a painted car and I saw how straight they were. But I did add some metal to the passenger's door and straightened the bottom lip on the driver's side.

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Here is my table of parts that just need a quick sand and final prime. I have a few little marks on the one lower fender extension, but otherwise ready for some red!

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I received a few more parts for my budget LS1 build project. I contacted the guy who I bought the LS1 short block from and he still had the lifters, trays and LS6 oil pump that came off my engine. He claims they only had about 5K miles on them before he pulled the motor to do a 408 stroker build. The lifters have more surface spotting on them then I would like to see, but I think they will clean up with an emery cloth. Since I'm not doing a new cam for now I'm going to hold off on new lifters, and all other mods besides a cheap set of Z06 valve springs to match the stock LS2 cam. When I do get a new cam, I'll do LS7 lifters, LS2 trays, valve springs, FAST intake, injectors, and throttle body. I just want to get the car up and running at this point.

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I also found a good deal on a used Pro 5.0 shifter, so that should be here soon. I don't need a new shifter, but I am thinking that with the longer shifter handle that I may end up putting more stress on the cup. Most aftermarket shifters, including the Pro 5.0, have built in stops that limit the throw which give me a level of comfort. Plus I really liked the way that my '76 T/A shifted with the same trans and shifter.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 79GoldnTan on May 23, 2018, 06:05:38 PM
Beautiful, that is gonna be one awesome car!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: LeighP on May 27, 2018, 01:42:04 AM
You're really powering along.....car's looking great.  :cool:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 29, 2018, 07:12:21 AM
Thanks for the compliments!

Not a big update, but I was able to get a few more hours of sanding in the garage this weekend. I went over the shell and all body panels with a fine tooth comb and added some skim filler to any imperfection I found. It took me quite a while, but I was very happy I did it. I found a lot of tiny spots that I missed before. It especially helped getting the car up on the lift. I have been chasing a few blemishes on the quarter panel top body lines, and I finally fixed the driver's side and need to sand a little bit more on the passenger side. There was also a spot on the passenger c pillar that I fixed as well. They were really the last few big issues that I had been fighting with, so I'm quite pleased to have those behind me.

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While I was skimming the car, I noticed that all the body panel filler was shrunk and needed to be replaced on the tail panel. I got it all out and then replaced with some new seam sealer. If I had to give advice, use masking tape! I didn't and it was way more work cleaning up the seam sealer where I didn't want it to go.

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I also flipped the hood over to give that some attention, and prep for primer. Didn't quite have enough time to get that sprayed though.

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I've been trying hard to stay focused on the body work, but I did come across a great deal on a used Pro 5.0 shifter and had to get it. I was thinking that since I'm running a longer handle, I may be putting extra force on the stock shifter and like the idea of having a throw limiter. Plus I really liked the way that the Pro 5.0 felt in my Trans Am. The shifts are much tighter and more precise. It felt great doing something other than body work.

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I'm glad I test fit it now, because the hole was just a little too small for me to install it from the top. I trimmed about 1/2" to the right and rear of the shifter location and now it fits all around and I have access to all the bolts.

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Also, on a parts update I decided to pull the trigger on a new clutch slave cylinder/throw out bearing and Z06 clutch kit from Luk. They are apparently the OEM supplier for GM clutch parts, so the parts are exactly the same whether you would get from GM Performance Parts box or a Luk box. Great thing is you can get them from Rock Auto for a significant price discount. Clutch slave cylinder was $35 bucks and the complete clutch kit with flywheel, PP and clutch disk was $230 bucks! I placed the order for the clutch parts and a few other things Friday late morning, and some of the parts came Saturday afternoon. Kudos to Rock Auto.

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And I also picked up some replacement tail light sockets as all of mine were in bad shape.

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On a semi car related post, we were at Lowe's yesterday with my family taking advantage of the Memorial Day sales, when my son got my attention. He says, "Look at that blue hot rod!" I wasn't even paying attention and when I looked over, I see a decent looking 79ish Trans Am! I told him oh yeah! That's a great looking car, nice spot. I've got a feeling that I'm going to have another little gear head in my house.

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Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: fixitrht on May 29, 2018, 10:00:08 AM
Your doing great, just a short thought.  I’ve found to stop using a hard filler like rage this late in the process working so close to completed work.  You may find yourself re-working the area to blend. 

This late in the project I would lean toward a product like icing.  As long as it’s very thin work the stuff sands very easy. 

Again I love this build
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 79merlin on May 29, 2018, 02:00:24 PM
If I were replacing my clutch I would definitely invest in one of these:
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/T56-Release-Bearing-Remote-Bleeder,41385.html (https://www.speedwaymotors.com/T56-Release-Bearing-Remote-Bleeder,41385.html)

I have had to bleed my clutch in my 4th gen without one and it is a pain...
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 30, 2018, 06:16:02 AM
Thanks for the tip Scott, I will definitely look into that because this yellow stuff is sanding hard and chewing through sandpaper quickly.

79Merlin, That is actually in my eBay cart as we speak.  8) Thanks for the tip though. Basically since I know I have to pull my motor to replace the oil pan, I'm thinking of what I should take car of while it is out. I already bought the LS7 clutch kit, new slave cylinder/throw out bearing, and I plan to buy the speed bleeder. While the motor is out, I'm also going to notch the frame for the low mounted accessories.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 04, 2018, 07:07:11 AM
I was pretty determined to get this car ready for paint this weekend. I went over on Thursday night to fix a few more little blemishes that were bothering me that needed to be addressed before I could lay down a final prime. I started by getting the car up on the lift and doing a final once over to address anything I may have missed. I pulled the wheels off both sides to hammer and dolly the lips straight and add a little filler to the lips where there were obvious weld marks. I was pleased with how it turned out. looked as original as it could.

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It got to be about 1am on Friday morning and I called it quits. However, about 5 mins on my way home I realized that if I didn't spray the primer now, that I wouldn't have enough time to get everything prepped to spray paint on Saturday. I turned around and finished up what needed to be done and got the car moved back to the booth. I was able to get two more solid coats of primer on the car and left there around 3:30am. Definitely the latest I have stayed up working on cars...

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I didn't get any pictures, but I came back on Friday night for a few hours and blocked everything off with 400 grit in preparation for spraying it down on Friday. It turned out great, and I was very pleased with all of my prep work. Either that or I was extremely tired from the night before. Then I came back early Saturday morning, and today was the day it was getting some color. After the 400 grit from the night before, I opted to sand with some red scotch brite pads rather than wet sanding with 600. Just didn't want any extra moisture before the paint.

One last time in primer...

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All taped up and ready for some red goodness.

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Bye bye primer, and hello Torch Red! My buddy who paints for a living helped with this step. He laid down the first color coat, but I did the following two coats.

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Then it was time for the clear coat. Wow, that makes a huge difference!

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For just laying down the clear, that finish is beautiful. I can't wait to see what it will be like when we cut and buff!

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I can't even describe how happy I am at this point. The paint turned out better than I had expected.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 04, 2018, 07:08:04 AM
I stopped back over on Sunday morning to peal off the tape, and my little helper tagged along. He was really excited to see my "red hot rod". Although I had to keep correcting him when he said rusty hot rod. haha. I'll just let the pictures do the talking.

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We put the wheels back on and we were both really proud of how it turned out.

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Then as we were leaving the sunshine came out and I couldn't resist getting it outside. I was taken back by that. It looks so much better than what the pictures show. I LOVE this color. It shows more of an orange tint outside than inside. Just what I wanted.

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I am thrilled with the progress this weekend. Huge motivator for me. All of the other panels are very close to being primed as well. Only thing left on the body is to put a fresh coat on the dash. If anyone has any tips for what color gloss that the lower dash should be, please send me a PM or post here. I'm using SEM Trim Black on the upper dash and firewall. I've heard that is roughly 30% gloss.

Thanks,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on June 04, 2018, 10:27:59 AM
Thanks for the motivation. Looks killer. It's all about the prep work.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: duffinatur on June 04, 2018, 12:32:34 PM
Very, very nice!  Looks really good in that color.
well done
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on June 04, 2018, 02:01:28 PM
Freakin' Awsome!! Great Job.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: mrbandit on June 04, 2018, 02:11:14 PM
You forgot to post all of the panels....Tighten up!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on June 04, 2018, 02:54:45 PM
Not sure I like your seat choice though...  8)
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Jack on June 04, 2018, 03:16:27 PM
Now that's what a quality paint job should look like, great job and I think your son already claimed the car...
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 78TA_In87 on June 04, 2018, 07:24:34 PM
darn!  THat looks AWESOME!!  I swear, I thought I could smell the paint!!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: LeighP on June 04, 2018, 09:57:53 PM
Go back to the start of this thread and look at what you started with....its come such a long way....awesome job, mate!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 05, 2018, 05:42:59 AM
Thanks for all the compliments! Once I paint the dash, the car is coming home! If I can get the dash painted Wednesday night, I will be bringing the car home on Friday.  8-)
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 05, 2018, 07:39:48 AM
Oh, and my buddy just sent me some action photos of me shooting the base coat! Glad he took those, as I didn't even see him doing it.

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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: DeVilliers on June 06, 2018, 06:17:39 AM
Congrats man! Excellent!
I'm pretty sure you can see the finish line now.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on June 06, 2018, 06:46:38 AM
This may be a dumb question but I am not a paint expert. Does the clear coat need to be "cut and buffed"? Your finish on the car looks really good and had me thinking why would it need to be wet sanded and buffed. I know I had some orange peel in mine and that cut and buffing got rid of that, but is it necessary if the clear coat finish comes out really smooth?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on June 06, 2018, 09:09:33 AM
No it would not. It is just done to create a perfect finish. I have some parts that came out amazing that I will not be buffing. It does look really good Ryan.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: MNBob on June 07, 2018, 12:59:30 PM
That color is going to look great and you are moving along fast.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 11, 2018, 08:12:12 AM
The last step before bringing the car home was to get the dash and cowl repainted. My buddy had covered my car with a plastic sheet to protect it from the car he was painting next door on his lift. So I used that as a base to mask from. It took me about 2 hours to back mask and carefully cover everything off. Then I scuffed the dash and upper cowl with a combination of 220, 400 grit, then a red scotch brite. I then wiped it all down good with some preps-all to remove all the grease and wax. Everything turned out so good! Very happy. I used a product by Transtar called Trim Black 2 in 1 in Satan color. I believe it is a very similar product as the SEM.

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For the upper dash, I used the "dry spray" technique to try and replicate the suede finish on the upper dash. It did give it some texture, but not quite as much as I believe was factory. I'm happy with it though.

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It took me a while to get the glove box "Camaro" emblem off, but I prepped the glove box door too.

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The dash face was turning out beautiful. The driver side was flawless and the amount of gloss was spot on in my opinion.

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Then, while spraying the passenger's side there must have been some left over Armour All or something that had a reaction. It was disappointing, but not the end of the world.

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I scuffed it down again with 220, then 400 , then a red scotch brite. Then I did the prepsall, but this time I used a self-etching primer as a base on the bare metal. That was the trick, and you would never know it had an issue.

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Perfect, just like new!

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As I was letting the paint dry and preparing to get the car loaded on my trailer, I realized that the sides of the back dash wasn't finished. I forgot to take a picture of the completed back dash but that turned out great as well. I scuffed down the back sections and did the best I could to not get any dust in the finish. The actually turned out great without any runs or dust in the finish! Glad I remembered before I left the booth with it all masked off.

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Finally was able to get it on the trailer, and back to my house! As you can see by the clock it was a late Friday night. I probably should have waited until the morning to get it, but we were having company over, and I already had the trailer attached to my truck.

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Hard to see in the picture, but it has a finish that is very close to original. Picture doesn't really capture it.

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I left the back side original as I really like the original decal. If/when it ever falls off or is ruined I'll take it off and refinish the inside. And yes, I will clean up the backside before installation, haha.

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After I got the car back home I had a hard time as I wanted to bolt everything back on the car! I settled for the new reverse light that I picked up at Carlisle this year.

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I need to make a list and prioritize what needs to be done so that I can get this car back on the road. I'm thinking going to prioritize by things that make the car safe, needed for an inspection, and needed for looks. Anything else will be something I do as I go, or over the winter.

I also met a fellow PT member at an AutoX event to swap some parts. He wanted the Z51 rear brakes I picked up at Carlisle and I needed the front springs that he had. It worked out great as the event was about 40 mins from where we get groceries. So we took a trip up the finger lakes and had a great drive out.

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Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on June 11, 2018, 08:22:34 AM
Big step getting the car back to your garage. Your son must've been excited to wake up in the morning and see the car back in "his garage".
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: LeighP on June 11, 2018, 02:16:01 PM
Great progress point, it all comes together fairly quickly now.....watch out for that fresh paint!  :lol:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 794spd on June 11, 2018, 03:52:40 PM
The work up to this point is great and that is a properly done perfect finish paint job. iIs pretty cool to see how far the car has come. But now for a difference in opinion  :shock: , your car your choice but... another red camaro... why doesn't anyone ever do the cool greens or light blues that these cars came in. I know a lot of times those are the "old lady" colors but I am one of the few that like the different colors and think it makes the cars stand out more than a "bright" color. But hey all my cars have crap paint so i don't have any room to talk on this amazing finish you got here. :lol: 
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 12, 2018, 05:58:55 AM
Thanks guys. Leigh, I'm actually nervous about re-installing the body panels. I really don't want to mess something up... I'll be sure to use a lot of blue tape.

794speed, I would love to do one of the more unique colors as many of the original colors were very vibrant. At the end of the day I asked my wife what color she thought and her pick was red.  :cool:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: mrbandit on June 12, 2018, 06:56:13 AM
It's hard to argue about the color when it looks that good.  Have you decided on a nose stripe or the side stripe or no stripe at all?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 737driver on June 12, 2018, 09:59:17 AM
That is some amazing work on the paint and body work! That is turning out to be one really amazing car! Great job!
Jim
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 13, 2018, 05:56:46 AM
Thanks! I'm going to be doing the nose stripe, but I'm going to do it in vinyl. That way if I change my mind I can just peel it off haha.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on June 13, 2018, 07:37:56 AM
I like the nose stripe decision.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: mrbandit on June 13, 2018, 11:21:18 AM
PG has the stripe in vinyl https://www.phoenixgraphix.com/gm/cam0001.php (https://www.phoenixgraphix.com/gm/cam0001.php)
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 18, 2018, 07:50:51 AM
After I finished my honey-do list on Saturday afternoon, I was free to get some more work done on the remaining body panels. I did a final sand and once over on all the panels and they are looking super straight. I'm very happy as I was able to get primer on all the remaining body panels. For the hood and deck lid I shot them first with epoxy primer, then when it flashed I followed up with 2 coats of 2k high build.

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I put down 2 coats of the 2k high build on all the other panels.

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I had a crack in the rear spoiler that I drilled and repaired with fiberglass. There are a lot of scratches in it from someone who thought it would be a great idea to sand down to the fiberglass core with 80 grit... So I put 2 nice thick coats on this so hopefully I can get the majority of them out with guide coat. I reinforced the exterior with a piece of fiberglass. It looks bad, but should be very simple to buzz down and fill with a little skim coat.

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Felt good knowing that the doors, fenders, fender extensions, deck lid and cowl piece are now in a final primer with the next stage being color. The hood and rear spoiler will still need a little work, but I won't be ready for the hood for at least a few weeks, so it's not a huge deal.

Next up was a few new parts updates. I've been keeping an eye out for the last few parts that I'm going to need to get my car back together. One of which was a set of standard door mechanisms. I got this pair on eBay for under $20.

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Since I got a new LS7 clutch and slave cylinder, I figured I might as well get the speed bleeder. I picked this one up from Speedway.

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Since I'm running the truck pulley and LS1 Fbody accessories, I needed to run spacers to get everything out to the right depth. I have been running the water pump on the edge of the pulley as it fit, but wasn't right. I picked up these spacers and bolts to fix that issue, and will also double as a better location for my water temp sensor. I never liked how far off of the engine the plug was in the passenger side rear of the cylinder head.

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And lastly, I picked up a Sanden SD7B10, which is a mini compressor, and when configured with the Dirty Dingo low mounts I believe will work well with the Holley engine mounts. I picked these from a member on Camaros.net (Thanks Shad) as a used for mock-up only basically out of the box items. They were installed once, then he changed directions. Luckily for me, he already had them installed on his frame, with notches, and using the same Holley Mounts I have. So I'm basically going to copy his design and install it on my car. I need to pull my motor anyway to swap out my oil pan to the Holley 302-3, and I might as well notch my frame while the motor is out. Once modified, I'm going to put the compressor back in a box until I pull the trigger on the Vintage Air components. Just planning for the future.

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Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 20, 2018, 09:18:40 AM
I worked for the last few days to get the car prepped to pull the motor. The biggest reason for pulling the motor is to replace the truck oil pan with the Holley 302-3 pan that I bought back in October when they first came out. I've been waiting for the opportunity to get the engine pulled so that I could replace it for a while now. My main goal was to get the body into paint, then focus on pulling the motor to swap things around. Many people were wondering why I would do it after paint, but to me it really didn't seem to make a difference either way. It actually ended up being a perfect because there was dust all over the engine bay from when it was painted and primed, so it gives me the opportunity to get it all cleaned and ready for a clean motor.

I pulled off basically everything but the engine Monday night. Seems like I'm going in the wrong direction...

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Then last night I disconnected everything else and decided to get the motor out of there.

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Everything was going great, then just as I was getting the drivetrain at about 45* with the cherry picker the plug I put in the transmission let go and all my trans fluid went on my clean floor... I got most of it with a towel, but I'm hoping that I can get in with a cleaner tonight and spray it down before it stains. A few mins later and the combo was out and trans separated from the motor.

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Old mystery clutch and flywheel gone and on my breadcart repurposed as a dolly.

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An empty feeling, but the silver lining is that I will get a bunch of clearance with the new pan, brand new LS7 clutch, new slave cylinder/throw out bearing, and once the frame is notched my accessories will fit perfectly. Plus I can get in there to clean everything once more before the engine/trans is in for good.

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And to make sure that I ended on a high note, I installed the glove box door. Doesn't seem like it, but it was really nice to install a clean part. Quick and easy satisfaction.

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I also started to play around with assembling the Speedway speed bleeder and new slave cylinder. It worked great and will hopefully save me a bunch of headaches and possible clutch contamination.

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I have to say, now that I have already modified everything to fit I'm looking forward to just bolting stuff together and re-installing it. When I was in the process of removing the motor, everything came apart quickly and easily. Especially the 3 piece transmission mount that I made. It came out just the way I wanted without a hitch. I'm hoping that I won't catch any snags along the way and that it goes back together as easily as it came apart. Just need to make a few notches in the frame, welderup and reinstall the motor.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 21, 2018, 08:13:21 AM
I finally tackled the project I have been putting off for a while now... the frame notch. Now that I had all the parts I needed for mock-ups and the engine pulled it was time to get cutting. Luckily for me, others like The Bandit have already paved the way for me so it was a matter of referencing his posts and making my cuts to mimic it. Although mine is slightly different as I'm using the Holley  12618HKR mounts, but the cuts are nearly identical. His was one of the cleanest looking frame notches that I have seen. Here goes nothing!

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Looking good with the engine in place. With the Dirty Dingo (DD-LS-AC-LM-TR) adjustable mounts for the Sanden compressor.

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Then the moment I have been nervous about, test fitting the engine with the new Sanden SD7B10 A/C compressor in the low mount position. I got this knowing full well that it was going to be very tight, and boy is it! I'd say that there is about a 1/4" of distance between the bolt and the rear of the compressor. But, they are both solidly mounted so they will move together. WIN!

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Just clears!

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Then I put on the alternator, which fit previously, but the stud on the alternator for 12v from the battery was almost touching. Better just notch it so there aren't any issues. Tons of room now around the alternator.

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What happened simultaneously was was the installation of the Holley 302-3 oil pan. Before I did any final mock-up I wanted to ensure that I was using the right pan. So before I made the cuts, I swapped my oil pans. The engine dropped right in and the pan just fits everywhere. As I was walking around the car inspecting for clearance issues after I notched the frame for the low mount alternator and compressor, I had forgotten that I swapped the pans. When I started checking it over, there is so much clearance around everything. Holley did a great job on this pan. There isn't a transmission in this picture, but I set the motor to 3.5* where it would be when it's final

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The AC compressor mounts do interfere with the sway bar. I have a few ideas about this, but I think the simplest solution is to get a spacer to bring the sway bar down. When I get more time to analyze what it would take to make that possible. I also need to think about future upgrades as I will likely want a bigger sway bar.

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I also thought I would share this information for others that may be going through similar situations. Knowing that I was pulling the engine in the future, I figured I should probably swap out the stock slave cylinder and get a remote-bleeder while I had it out of the car. After some research, I found that Luk LSC265B was supposed to be the same part number as what you would get at a GM parts counter. I confirmed that when I replaced the stock one from my T56. Same numbers and same markings. Great score because on Rock Auto it was about $35 bucks!

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It was a huge relief knowing that the oil pan and accessories are now set. I'm hoping to get the plates made and welded solid at some point in the next week. Saturday morning I'm going to wake up early and get the insides of all the panels sprayed out in Torch Red.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 79merlin on June 21, 2018, 07:09:52 PM
Great progress. It never ceases to amaze me. I think you get more done in one weekday night than I get done in a week with 3 working sessions on my car. And you document the process too. lol
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on June 25, 2018, 07:01:44 AM
Thanks 79Merlin!

My son had a play date Saturday morning with some of my wife's friend's kids that are the same age as my son, so I had the green light to work on my old Camaro. I didn't waste any time getting to work. I was determined to do all of the spraying on these panels now that I was a little more comfortable. I got to work prepping the bottom sides of the panels for some paint. I had a few area's on the bottom of the deck lid that lifted the paint, so I had to sand that down further and re-spray.  Thankfully the underside of the hood just needed to be scuffed up and shot. Once all the panels were ready to be sprayed, I had to clean all the dust out of the room by spraying everything off, then waiting for the dust to settle. I started off by spraying the doors because they just needed a scuff down the existing clear coat to prep for a few coats of epoxy for good adhesion.

Then I laid down two color coats on all of the panels.

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I had sprayed a few color coats on the shell, but I hadn't sprayed any clear. I had watched my buddy do it and he gave me some pointers before I started and I was very pleased with the results after 1 coat of clear.

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The 2nd coat really brought out the shine!

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Very happy with the way that everything turned out. I definitely built up my confidence spraying these panels. Hoping to get my frame welded back up this week and put the motor and trans back together. Won't be too much longer and I will be bolting these panels back onto the car!

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: duffinatur on June 25, 2018, 11:12:20 AM
Lookin really good, Ryan!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on July 02, 2018, 09:51:35 AM
Thanks Duff. I had a long weekend and got a lot done on this car. We took off this past Friday to go to a concert in Camden, NJ to see Chris Stapleton and since we weren't leaving until 9am on Friday, I knew I could stay up a little later and get some work done on the old Camaro. Fantastic concert by the way, what a truly talented performer.

My focus has been to get the frame notches done so that I can get the motor back in the car. I decided to make the plates in three pieces for a few reasons. One was that I would be able to tie in the plates to the outer frame to give it a little more strength, and two was that the plate I bought was a little on the thick side and would be difficult to bend. It took me a while to get into a groove with the cutting and fitting but once I did it went pretty quickly. I started by using a cardboard template for every plate, and carefully cut out the shapes with a thin cutoff wheel on my angle grinder.

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Not the best welds in that pocket, but there must have been some sort of contamination. I made sure to wipe down all of the surfaces with denatured alcohol, but I guess it didn't matter in this case.

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Good thing is the bad looking welds were hidden by this piece.

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I'm very pleased with how it turned out. The welds are a little cold but it was all that my little Miller 135 could handle. It still had solid penetration and the area isn't a critical structural component so I'm confident it will be fine.

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That's going to give me lots of clearance for my low mount AC Compressor when the time comes to reinstall. I'll be very glad I planned ahead when I go to install Vintage Air in the future. I still need to figure out how to make that compressor and the sway bar live happily together, but at least the pump will bolt to the engine and clear the frame. I'm hoping that was the hard part.

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Then I had to repeat the same process on the driver's side.

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Both sides turned out great. I was very happy with the results. I'm happy enough with the welds that I'm going to leave them exposed and just paint over them. All notched and ready for a drivetrain once it's painted!

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A good habit that anyone doing fabrication and heavy welding/grinding should get into is letting everything sit to make sure there isn't a smoldering fire. I've heard of too many stories where people get done welding/grinding and shut down the shops/garages and something was on fire, but couldn't tell right away. I always wait at least an hour and check for smoke or smells. So to keep me busy I took on a few other secondary tasks to get the drivetrain back in the car. First was finding a mount for the remote bleeder. I tapped this boss on the side of the trans and used an extra brake tab. Worked like a charm and fits great. For anyone wondering, I got the Speedway remote bleeder in 12" length. Installed with the new slave cylinder/throw out bearing from Luk.

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Just need to get a shorter bolt and I'll be in business.

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The next task was doing a final install on the Holley 302-3 oil pan. I was very impressed upon the first trial fitment and didn't really appreciate it as much because I was more focused on the initial frame notches I did. I modified the full length windage tray that came with my motor, which was very simple using the provided instructions. I did that last week, and now it's ready to install.

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I torqued everything down using the existing hardware and also test fit the oil pump pickup. As I was inspecting the pickup I noticed that Holley went to the extra step of adding a flange with two bolts instead of one like the stock one.

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I got to the point of test fitting the pan with the windage tray and pickup, but couldn't final install as I was missing some RTV sealant. I pulled the plugs and spun the motor around and didn't hear any strange noises. I'm confident there will be no issues.

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And topped it off with a brand new AC Delco oil filter. I used the part number that the instructions listed, PF48E

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Overall very happy with the progress from this weekend. It is a huge relief knowing that the fabrication is now done and it's basically just need to bolt stuff on now. This next week and weekend is going to be busy with my son's Birthday party and the 4th of July. I'm hoping to sneak some time here and there to get the oil pan buttoned up, clutch installed and the motor/trans reinstalled.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on July 02, 2018, 10:02:33 AM
As is typical, that is nice looking work Ryan, Glad to hear you got in and out of Camden ok!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on July 02, 2018, 11:26:55 AM
Thanks Kerry!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: scarebird on July 02, 2018, 11:56:45 AM
Don't you want that bleeder as high as you can get it?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on July 03, 2018, 09:12:59 AM
You know, I really hadn't given it much thought. I've seen many people mount the remote bleeders here, but it would make more sense to have it higher. I'll have to do some research.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: scarebird on July 03, 2018, 11:23:37 AM
I put mine at the base of the intake, dribbled a little bit while bleeding but worked perfectly once bled.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 79merlin on July 04, 2018, 08:10:23 AM
Interesting. I was thinking about getting the 36" version and mounting it right next to the clutch reservoir. Then I could bleed and watch the levels at the same time. Of course I am planning to use my air power vacuum bleeder to do this...
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on July 09, 2018, 09:17:00 AM
I made a post on ls1tech on that topic of where to mount the bleeder and many people chimed in saying that it won't be an issue. Thanks for bringing up that point though scarebird as I didn't even give it a thought.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on July 09, 2018, 09:17:24 AM
I was able to get a fair amount of work done this week here and there. This post is very scattered, but I'll try to make it easy to follow. Whenever I have a few minutes between mowing, or other chores after work I try to get a little something done during the week. I'll start off with the gauge housing that I refinished. I scuffed it up with a red scotch brite pad and shot it with the same dash paint. It turned out great and is an exact match for my dash. Once it drys for a week or so, I'm going to use this silver leafing pen I picked up. I have read on other forums where this particular pen makes it look just like stock. I hope to try it sometime this week.

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I spent several hours working at my buddies house getting the rest of the body panels closer to paint, but it was so incredibly hot in his paint booth we opted not to spray in fear it would turn out bad. So I ended up coming home and getting the drivetrain back together. First thing I did was finalized the install of the Holley oil pan. I dabbed the black silicone on the four corners of the front and rear covers and sealed it all up. To ensure that the oil pan was aligned with the bellhousing I bolted the trans to the motor and snugged the bolts down hand tight. Then I torqued the oil pan bolts.

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Then it was time for the brand new LS7 clutch. It might be helpful to others, but this is the same clutch that you would get from GM Performance. LUK is the factory supplier to GM, and this is their complete LS7 replacement clutch kit part number 04905. It came with a new pilot bearing, pressure plate bolts, clutch, flywheel and pressure plate. At the very reasonable price of $220 from Rock Auto. Although I re-used the ARP flywheel and pressure plate bolts.

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Then it went back together with the trans for hopefully the last time.

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I also wanted to get some paint on the notches so that I could reinstall the motor now that the drivetrain is back together. I used the same paint as I did before on the frame, but for some reason it was much glossier. Hopefully it will not be as noticeable once all the components start getting bolted back on.

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Then Saturday when everyone was napping, I decided it was time to put that motor back in! I've had it in now so many times that it really didn't take me long at all. About 45 mins and it was bolted down. It went in flawlessly. Before I can call it good I still need to confirm that I have solid oil pressure. I'm 99.9% sure that it is fine, but I've seen where people go to install the oil pickup and the o-rings get pinched.

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All ready to mount some accessories down low. That was a lot of extra work, but glad that it's over with. Now, I have plenty of room for everything and will make for a clean install.

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After getting some feedback from others, I've decided to go ahead and modify the brackets for my low mount A/C compressor now rather than later. I have full access to the front of the motor right now and it would be much more difficult to get to it later. Now that I have the Dirty Dingo brackets mounted with the sway bar bolted in place and the new oil pan, it is clear that they aren't all going to play together. Mostly a sway bar issue at this point, but the biggest thing is the compressor physically fits with my motor mounts and frame with notch. After some measurements and playing around with the placement of the compressor, I can modify the mounts slightly to work for my situation. First thing was to take some measurements of where the sway bar is in relation to the compressor.

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Then I could play around and see if I could make the heights of the sway bar work with these mounts. I trimmed a little off of the edges near the motor mounts and found that if I could raise the lower mount up by ~2" and add a 1/2" spacer to the swap bar mount that I would have roughly 1/4" between the sway bar and tensioner. Win!

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This is a punch that I found that was exactly 1/2". I also figured that I would use the swaybar butt right against the 1/2" spacer to simulate if I was to get a larger diameter sway bar as it would sit much tighter to the frame. I'm at least trying to future proof it.

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Here is where the mount roughly needs to be in order to keep the original geometry of the mount, but in a raised position. Now, you may notice that the mount is actually causing the compressor to move more forward than the stock position. This is because the original mounting position uses the trucks 4 rib pulley to the outer edge of the pulley on the Sanden compressor. My thought is since I'm modifying the bracket anyway I'm going to move the compressor 2 ribs (~.300")forward to give me a little more clearance around the motor mounts.

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My plan is to cut an L shaped piece of 1/4" plate and weld it to the lower side of this bracket to raise the mounts to where I need them. Once the lower mount is finalized and mounts the belt flush with the pulley, I'll address the upper mount. Which I believe will be easier as it should either be a spacer to match, or extending the arms out slightly.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on July 20, 2018, 07:03:22 AM
Been a little while since I had an updater, but now that the motor is back in the car for good, it was time to turn my focus back to the body panels and getting them prepped for paint. Last week I went over and shot a final prime on most of the body panels and a first prime on the hood.

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Then last night I came back to get some more work done. I started by spraying some guide coat and block sanding the hood with 220. It came out pretty good actually and should only need one more round of block sanding. Then I did a final sand, mask, and prep on everything but the hood and rear spoiler. After cleaning up the dust and wetting the floor I sprayed down a few coats of base.

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This is after two coats of base coat.

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I sandblasted all these bolt and hinges, then sprayed etching primer and shot with the base coat.

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Then three coats of clear.

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I can't wait for the RS Grill to go back in!

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I'm very pleased with the results. I am going to stop by tonight after work and pick up some of the parts as my buddy needs his booth back. I'm hoping that I can possibly convince my dad or father in law to come over tonight and help me bolt up the doors. Can't wait to see the car come back together!

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: jonathonar89 on July 20, 2018, 07:13:59 AM
Nice, looking good my friend.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 76455sd on July 20, 2018, 07:51:04 AM
Very nice.  Great progress.  Congrats.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Steve B on July 20, 2018, 07:59:42 AM
Looking good!  I'm as anxious as you to get it put together.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on July 20, 2018, 09:55:06 AM
It looks like your getting pretty good with the paint gun! I cant wait to see it put back together also. LOL.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on July 20, 2018, 01:04:28 PM
Wow! Those look awesome! Great progress. You will have a car soon!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: LeighP on July 29, 2018, 01:26:10 AM
Great progress...paint looks terrific!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on July 29, 2018, 04:11:41 AM
Just caught up, so much progress!  Definitely feels like you're in the home stretch.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 06, 2018, 10:34:37 AM
Thanks for all the feedback guys! I can't wait to drive this car on the road!

Thanks for the positive feedback. Getting really excited and after the work over the last two weeks, I'm really starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. I've been keeping busy on the car but haven't been able to update here. Now that all panels but the hood and spoiler are painted, it was time to bring them home and start assembling this car. I started by putting on the deck lid and cowl purely because I ran out of counter space to put it. Took just a few mins to get it aligned and the deck lid fits very nicely, but the cowl is just sitting there for now.

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I decided to change gears and focus on finalizing the mount for my A/C compressor. I needed to move the mounts up 2" to allow the belt tensioner to clear the sway bar. I am also moving the mounts to run on the rear 4 ribs of the compressor verse the front 4 ribs as the mount was originally designed. This will allow me a little more room to clear the motor mount. In conjunction of moving the mounts up 2", forward ~.3" and running a .5" spacer under the sway bar mounts everything will fit and work happily together.

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I made sure to clamp it down to a flat piece of 3/4" plate to ensure that it didn't warp when welded.

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I took this to my dad's house to weld and didn't get pictures of it in process. I brought it home and it fits great. Everything lines up just like it should so I'm very pleased.

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Test fitting the compressor I was very pleased. It fit just like I wanted it to and the pulleys lined up quite nicely as well.

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Now that the lower mount is confirmed to fit with all of my components, I'm going to hold off on modifying the upper mounts until after the car is running/driving. I'm not ready for the Vintage Air at this point, so it can be put off. My biggest concern was making sure I could test fit the compressor to be sure that it will live happily in the low mount position. Moving on, I could now I could start installing some of the freshly painted body panels. First up was the passenger side door.

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I decided to take a chance and drill some 1/8" holes through the doors and hinges to help with the re-installation after paint. I'm so glad that I did too. This took me all of about 15 mins to get the gaps. So glad I took the time to gap and get the body lines. Really pays off when I stepped back and checked it out.

I couldn't get as good of pictures on the driver's side as it's pretty tight against my work bench. But I used the same techniques and mounted the other side. I couldn't be happier with the fitment. 

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On a non-car related update, I made this as a gift for my wife for our 7 year wedding anniversary. According to tradition, 7 years is the copper anniversary so I found some plans to make a copper rose for her. It turned out really nicely.

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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 06, 2018, 10:35:38 AM
Next up on my list was preparing to install my front fenders. There were a few things that I needed to do before I could put them on. First was to repair my factory heater box. It had some rust on the lower section that needed to be repaired. I picked up another box at Spring Carlisle this year and it will make a perfect candidate to cut out my patch panel.

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I also had to replace this rusty stud and mounting tab.

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And all painted up. I didn't spend a ton of time on it as it will be removed when I install Vintage Air in the future.

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Next up was replacing the stock springs that were in the car with who knows how many miles on them. I picked up a set of DSE 1" drop springs for LS/SBC a while back so it was time to swap them out. The old shocks put up the biggest fight, but eventually came out. I ended up having to torch off the top nuts. What a smoky mess that was when the rubber bushings caught on fire...

Should stiffen up the ride. Noticeable difference in the diameter of the coils.

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All back together.

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While I was repairing and painting the heater box, I was cleaning up and painting my fiberglass inner fenders.

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After I assembled the inner and outer fenders, I did a first test fit. Luckily before I disassembled the car I took note of the number of shims in each location that helped tremendously. The fender almost fell right into place when I reinstalled. So happy, it's starting to look like a car again.

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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 06, 2018, 10:36:03 AM
Before I could install the passenger side fender, I had to clean up and install the outer heater box. I used some seam sealer to seal up the box and will pull the inner box to install the heater core. I think I'm going to have to run a big block heater core in order to clear the LS motor. If not I'm going to run a block off plate and eventually upgrade to a BBC heater to allow for more space.

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And here is the moment I have been waiting for, for along time.

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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on August 06, 2018, 10:44:30 AM
Looks great Ryan, panel alignment and gaps look perfect. All of your time has payed off. I like the rose too. I bet you scored some major brownie points for that one!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on August 06, 2018, 02:57:14 PM
Wow! Car looks awesome! The rose is really cool too. I will take up metal art when I retire, it's fun too.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: TATurbo on August 06, 2018, 08:17:59 PM
Love the red Ryan.  Congrats on the progress...Are those the rims you'll be using in the end?  They are a nice look...modern but not too much so.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on August 07, 2018, 01:01:42 AM
Here I was afraid I'd be the only one to say how awesome the rose was. :lol:  See now you can say how all the time working on the car benefits her. :lol:

Also yes he went out his way to find the BMW Parallel and to make sure they'd fit and work, kind of help modernize it somewhat and be different than everyone else using the same thing as everyone else.  I'm looking at you Torque Thrust...
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 78TA_In87 on August 07, 2018, 02:38:27 AM
darn that paint looks GREAT!!  I can almost smell it!!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 07, 2018, 05:58:21 AM
Thanks guys. I'm so pumped to be this close to having the car back on the road.

Tom, Yes those are the wheels that I plan on running for now. I'm certainly not the first person to use the M Parallel wheels on muscle cars, but they are a very reasonable 18" wheel if you can find them. I found a set that a guy had listed as generic BMW wheels and talked him down to $675 with almost new rear tires and decent front tires. I had been finding them all over for about $1k for a set of 4 wheels. The best part is the guy was only a 2 hour drive away.

The fronts fit perfectly, but the rears need a small spacer. I'm currently running a 1" wheel adapter in the rear, but I may actually step down to a 1/2" or 3/4" as there is plenty of room between the tire and the inner to move inward.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 76455sd on August 07, 2018, 08:27:47 AM
Car looks fantastic.

I feel like I'm playing "where's Waldo", I don't see the rose... :-?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 737driver on August 07, 2018, 12:04:22 PM
Really great work! You did a really nice job on the paint. Body work and paintis something I want to learn how to do. Looking really good!
Jim
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: LeighP on August 09, 2018, 06:57:05 PM
Coming along very nicely.  8)
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 13, 2018, 08:46:30 AM
It must have been late when I installed the passenger door and fender because the gaps weren't quite right. Too tight on the quarter/door gap and too loose on the fender/door gap. I also noticed that the front bottom edge of the door just kissed the rocker. So after about 4 times removing/reinstalling the fender and adjusting the door I was finally happy and tightened them down for good. The door now has clearance around everything so I don't have to worry about the painted edges.

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Next up was figuring out how to mount the ECU down. I had to move it back a little from where I originally had it mounted so that I could give the harness more slack. It was too tight before. I also had to balance between the battery, fender, and being able to service it if needed. I used some aluminum stock from my metal bin and it worked great. I was originally going to use something more substantial, but it's super solid with this mount so I'm happy.

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And with it mounted I can easily pull the computer out if needed.

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Moving on to my engine accessories, I finally bought a power steering pressure line. I knew that the fittings were correct for my application from a stock 98-02 Fbody Camaro, so I took a chance on it knowing I would likely need to bend the lines. It ended up working quite well after quite a bit of tweaking. I'm hoping that I won't have any leaks from all the bending when I go to start it up, but I'll keep my fingers crossed.

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I also have been going back and forth about whether or not to swap out the 5.3 for the LS1 now rather than later. Mainly becuase I know that the 5.3 runs good, but at the end of the day, I would prefer having the LS1 engine. So... I'm going to put the LS1 together now and confirm whether or not it's a solid running engine. I bought it as a complete shortblock a while back so I'm curious to know if I actually got a good running motor. I'm going to put it together and make myself a budget LS6 engine. I have a pair of 799 heads, LS2 cam w/ front mount cam sensor, and just recently picked up an LS6 intake manifold. My plan will be to put the motor together over the next week, pull the 5.3 while it's still relatively easy to pull, and put the LS1 in and confirm that it's a good running motor.

Yesterday, I pulled the heads off of my parts shelf to see how hard it would be to get those broken studs out. Thankfully, they both came right out with some PB Blaster and a pair of vice grips. Now they just need to be degreased badly.

Before:

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After:

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I'm hoping by the weekend that I will know whether or not the LS1 engine will be installed for good. It would be good to shave off some lbs. and gain some HP.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Nexus on August 19, 2018, 01:45:52 PM
Cool build dude!!

I bet it feels good to see it together as much as it is!!

nice work
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 21, 2018, 07:07:46 AM
Thanks Nexus and yes, it feels great. It will feel even better when I get it running/driving again!

Been taking a break from working on the car to get some yardwork done and spending time with my family. I did get a little motivation last night and am moving forward on assemblying the LS1 engine to confirm whether or not it is worth swapping for the 5.3. I started by reinstalling and torquing the rear plate. Made sure to tighten and align it with the oil pan, so there was a proper seal before torquing down. Also installed the flywheel so that it can be started.

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Then I spun the engine around and installed the LS2 cam, sprocket, and timing chain. Torqued everything down as I was going. Followed by the oil pump and timing cover. I will be removing the timing cover though as I broke the cam sensor. A new one will be ordered soon.

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After I removed the broken studs from the one head, I cleaned them up with some Purple Power. It really does a great job removing grime. Just make sure to rinse with water as it can corrode the aluminum if it's not washed off.

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After:

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I've also got the lifters soaking in new oil waiting to be installed.

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Before I install the cylinder heads I need to pick up a set of stock LS6/LS2 springs for the added lift of the LS2 cam. Hoping to have everything soon. I'm anxious to know whether or not this motor is good solid like the seller said!

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on August 21, 2018, 07:32:44 AM
Ryan, you crack me up (I mean this in the best way), youre so close and yet you change gears, pardon the pun, and go a diff. direction with the motor. Must be a youth thing. My son whose hobby is collecting and playing guitars does the same thing. As soon as he gets one he takes it apart and rebuilds it to suit his taste.
I hope the new motor turns out to be good and a strong runner. No better time than now to swap things out.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 21, 2018, 07:55:13 AM
I know Kerry. I'm sure that on the outside I look nuts, (which maybe I am) but at the end of the day I think I'll be wanting more power pretty shortly after getting the car going. I'm also at a point where this project has left me near broke, so I'm hoping that I can possibly put the LS1 engine together pretty cheap, and sell the 5.3 to give me the last push to get my glass and the last few bits to actually drive it this year. All that is assuming the LS1 is healthy. You are right too now is the time. The drivetrain is actually just sitting in the car now, the trans mount is tight, but the engine mounts just have bolts stuck through. It would take me all of 20 mins to pull at this point.

Just to clarify also, I'm not going to disassemble the 5.3 at all beyond a few sensors and motor mounts that I need to borrow. That way if the LS1 turns out to be a turd, I'm just out a few hours of assembling the LS1 motor and can just reinstall the 5.3/6 speed.

Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on August 21, 2018, 11:30:21 AM
How do the cylinders look?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: TATurbo on August 21, 2018, 10:16:14 PM
It is pretty cool to have the ability and where-with-all to be able to have to make a decision on pull out your iron 5.3 to try out your aluminum LS1...Just to see if it runs OK before you take it out to build it as an LS6.   Congrats on the progress Ryan.
I don't know if it was intentional, but I saw a close up of the 'stamping' on the head.  Just out of curiosity, can you tell us anything about reading/deciphering those #'s?   You mention that you have a set of '799' heads...Where is that indicated and what are the 799's from? (Does that denote LS6 heads?).

Kerry, how old is your son?  My 16yr old has been playing guitar for a couple years and has recently expressed an interest in taking one (or more) of his  guitars apart to make some changes.  Does your kid have much experience with that as a hobby?

Looking forward to seeing the Camaro fired up Ryan! Looks close!

-Tom
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 22, 2018, 07:08:31 AM
The cylinders all look good. It's hard to know whether or not someone is telling the truth, but he told me that the car had 70k miles and he was pulling it to put in a 408 stroker motor. The car was right next to the engine when I bought it and confirmed it was 70k. I feel confident that it will be a good running motor.

Tom, the 799 heads are starting to become more common finds in pick and pull yards as they are the stock heads on 07+ Silverado/Sierras with 5.3/4.8 and also came on some of the 05+ Trailblazers with 5.3. Mine set came from an 06 Trailblazer. The 799 heads share the same castings as the 243 heads which are the stock heads for LS6 and LS2 engines. The LS6 243 heads that came in Z06 Corvette's came with lightweight valves, where all of the others are the standard weight valves. As for cfm flow characteristics, the 799/243 are identical but cast at different manufacturing plants.

The 243/799 head swap is a very common combination on LS1 engines as they offer a slight bump in compression with the 64cc chambers verse the 67cc chambers on the 241/853 (both are stock LS1 heads). They also flow significantly more CFM at all lift numbers which is mostly where the added HP comes from. Most people will pick up 50-80 HP swapping heads/cam/intakes.

I'm hoping to be in the 375 RWHP ballpark with the 799 heads, LS6 intake, LS2 cam, headers and CAI.

Forgot to add, I got a great deal on an LS6 intake last week.

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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on August 22, 2018, 03:21:05 PM
Looks good Ryan, pardon my ignorance, but is the intake plastic?
Tom, I will email you.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 23, 2018, 06:14:54 AM
Kerry, the intake is composite. I believe that all new GM v8 motors come with plastic/composite intakes. Unless they are supercharged :cool:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on August 23, 2018, 06:41:44 AM
Ok, I thought it looked like it, but what the heck do I know? makes sense as its got to save a few pounds off the bottom line.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: fixitrht on August 25, 2018, 03:23:31 PM
Looking good ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: tribute on August 26, 2018, 12:21:28 PM
You do amazing work.  Car and rose both look great.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 27, 2018, 08:33:34 AM
I appreciate all of the positive feedback. Helps keep me motivated.

I got a little bit more done during the week last week and weekend assembling the LS1. While I was waiting for parts, I decided it would be a good idea to go ahead and modify my block to allow for my LS6 valley cover. It requires cutting an unused boss from the block. Since I was working late, I had to get creative and use something that was quiet. I used my hack saw with a brand new blade. It surprisingly worked quickly, was precise and didn't make much of a mess. I think I would do it this way again if I had to do it all over. I made sure to cover everything and isolated just this area. Worked very well and vacuumed out the remaining bits before I removed the cover.

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Not beautiful, but worked well and clears the PVC under the valley cover.

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Now it's all ready for some heads. I started by fully disassembling them as I will be swapping to the blue LS6/LS3 springs.

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I still wasn't happy with how clean the heads were so I sprayed them down again with degreaser and power washed them inside and out. I was happy after the power washing, but there is still some corrosion on the heads I can't seem to clean it off. Does anyone have any tips for getting that machined finish again? Part of it is just dull, but some has some hazy type of corrosion.

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You can see the corrosion in this picture. After I power washed them, I thought it would be a good idea to lap the valves to ensure I had a good seal while it was all apart anyway. Glad I did as I found one very slightly bent intake valve.

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Finally the blue LS6 springs came in and I installed them. Well all but the one bent intake valve. I still need to track one down.

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Doesn't sound like I did much, but it was time consuming to clean 130k miles of junk off of the intake and exhaust valves. My one buddy may have an intake valve so I should be able to get this back together this week once I finish the other head. Then I can see if my hard work has paid off.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: T A Troy on August 27, 2018, 06:44:31 PM

  You may try a product called aluma bright for cleaning 18 wheeler trailers, You should be able to find it at the parts house. I would try some on another piece just to see how the finish is and if you like it before doing the complete head. It will clean them and give them a brighter kind of raw aluminum look.

  The car is really nice and you should be very happy of what you have accomplished.

  Troy
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 30, 2018, 08:34:37 AM
Thanks Troy, I'll give that a try. I've been working the last few days and had enough to post an update. I finished lapping all of the valves and thankfully there was only the one intake valve that was bent. I called a buddy and he had an extra one so I'm good to go after I lap and install that last valve and spring.

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I also was curious what the fuel rails will look like that I picked up earlier this year at a swap meet. I would need to create a few hold down brackets for them, but I really do like the way they look over the stock rails. I think they were on a SBC before so I would need to shorten the front line slightly to line up properly. I would only need one fitting to complete the swap, so I'm probably going to do that but may hold off until this winter.

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After months of work, I finally painted the last two pieces of my car! Huge milestone. I laid down a few coats of epoxy primer, then shot 3 coats of base.

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Then 3 coats of clear.

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Unfortunately, when I was spraying last night there was a storm that started and must have drove the bugs inside. I ended up getting about a dozen bugs in the clear. Thankfully they didn't land in the base coat, so I should be able to just carefully sand them out, but I may need to re-clear some of it. I need to see what my buddy says, but either way I'm running it this summer/fall haha.

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Overall I'm stoked that I was able to prep and paint 99% of my car. I'm super lucky that my buddy was busy this summer and didn't need the use of his booth. Until just recently when he said that he's got a long term project coming in and needed the space again. Maybe this winter I'll bring the hood back and fix the bug issues.

I ordered some parts from RockAuto as well to hopefully be the last parts I'll need for a while. I broke the front cam sensor when I was trying to remove it, so I picked up a new AC Delco front cam sensor. As well as a new belt, tensioner and head gaskets. I'm hoping that they come by Saturday so that I can put my heads on and torque them down. I hate waiting for parts...
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on August 30, 2018, 02:13:22 PM
Shame about the bugs, but like the old saying goes, "that'll buff out". My guess is that once youre done with it you will be the  only person to know where they were. Things are coming together nicely.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: T A Troy on August 30, 2018, 05:15:41 PM
  I am glad it worked for you Ryan. I have also used it in the past but some people say it is to hard of a cleaner. I am sorry to see that happened with the bugs. Depending on how deep they sank in the clear they should be able to be sanded out and buffed but never the less that is very aggravating when that happens. There is nothing more aggravating than when those little critters decide to check out the finish up close like that and it is not dry yet. Again the car looks great and is really something to be proud of.
Troy
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on August 30, 2018, 08:27:35 PM
Are you sure you're not a body man? Looks like you have out done myself and others as well. You talent is something to be proud of, as is your creation. Keep up the amazing (magazine worthy) work. I am jealous. Ah, and don't worry about the bugs, like Roadking said, "that'll buff out".
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on August 30, 2018, 11:26:37 PM
Bugs ruin everything, stupid bugs...
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on August 31, 2018, 08:27:35 AM
I'm hoping that they will buff out. I'm debating now whether or not to see if I can just buff it out now and shoot a few more coats of clear. I may just wait until winter though so there aren't any bugs :cool:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: mrbandit on August 31, 2018, 12:47:21 PM
Ryan, when my painter did a single stage job on my daily truck a huge mosquito had landed in the hood.  After a few washes it was gone and I couldn't tell you where on the hood it was at.  Hopefully you will have the same experience.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on August 31, 2018, 04:04:07 PM
I had one bug get into the clear coat when I did my car. I made the mistake of trying to get it out right away. I got it out but it left a spot. I know where it is but doubt anyone else could find it. I like Mr Bandits idea.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 05, 2018, 01:36:31 PM
Big step forward over this long weekend. RockAuto came through for me and had my parts by Saturday evening. Once I received them I got right to work. I was determined to get this motor together and confirm that it runs. Along with new head gaskets, I also picked up a new tensioner, belt, ARP balancer bolt and front cam sensor.

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After reading a lot on others that have built LS motors, it was important to confirm that there isn't any debris left in the holes for the cylinder head bolts. Since I didn't want to spend the money on one of the head bolt chasers, I opted to make my own out of an old head bolt. I flattened two sides of the threads and then de-burred the edges of the thread to make sure that I didn't cause any damage to the threads.

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It worked great, and cleaned out some gunk from the threads. Most came out clean though. I taped off the cylinders so that nothing fell into the bores or lifters.

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If you remember a while back I picked up a forged LS1 with World heads. Well right around the time we were moving, I opted to part it out and sell parts from it. I ended up making about $3k profit on it because I picked it up so cheap. The best part was I kept the 7.4" Comp push rods and ARP head bolts. The bolts were only torqued once and the comp push rods were only installed. The motor never ran, so they are like new parts.

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Here's where the motor transformed from a short block to a long block. Head bolts are all torqued down to 75 lbs. or 25lbs. with brand new MLS gaskets.

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Since I installed the new LS6 valley cover, I chose the valve covers with the least amount of ports on them to avoid having to plug them off. In doing so I noticed that the valve covers that came off of the 799 heads were stamped '12 and '14? Not sure if it was a factory recall or if one or both of the heads were replaced at any point. The one head does look newer than the other one, but I'm not sure how to tell from the stampings on the heads when they were cast.

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Next up was transferring any missing components to the new motor. Sensors, plugs and etc. I also pressed on the truck pulley with my installation tool I bought several years ago. Worked like a charm.

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Then I dropped the motor in and bolted everything back onto the motor and made all the connections. After chasing around a cam sensor DTC, I found out that I had two wires swapped. Switched those over and the error went away. I also primed the motor with the injector fuse pulled. I cranked the motor over until I saw pressure show up on my gauge. I also pulled off the valve covers to confirm that the oil made its way through the whole valve train before I thought about starting it.

Then I spent the good part of the afternoon building a base tune for my car. I used the stock tune file from a 2004 Z06 Corvette and borrowed the VE tables, timing, MAF, and a few other misc tables. After troubleshooting a fueling issue, I ended up spraying a little starting fluid into the intake and then it fired right off. I didn't have any coolant in the system so it idled a little high, but settled right down. Once it fired up and ran I was very happy. It was 90* yesterday when I was working on it, so hot and happy.

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In between waiting for the battery to charge and downloading the latest version of HP tuners, I installed the rear spoiler, tail lights, fuel filler neck, and gas cap. I've been waiting a while to see the completed rear of the car. Just need put the bumper on when someone can help me so I don't scratch anything. I'm not sure how I feel about the 67 tail lights yet, but I'll likely swap over to the 68 RS tails at some point.

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I'm hoping over the next week to swap over the LS7 clutch, 6 speed, Holley oil pan and get it all re-installed back into the car. Then I can finish reinstalling the rest of the front end. I ordered my glass last week, so it should be installed sometime next week. If all goes well I'm hoping over the next few weeks I'll get it done enough for an inspection so I can put some miles on the car!

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 76455sd on September 05, 2018, 02:50:40 PM
Getting closer and closer.  Looks great.  I like the '68 tail lights better than the '67 also, but the '67s look pretty good on it now so swapping would get pushed to the bottom of the list.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on September 05, 2018, 07:04:31 PM
I have a 67 and like the 67 rs tail lights but I guess I can see why you'd like the 68. I should buy that 5.3 from you... If I wasn't try to finish my T/A, build another barn and th list goes on....

Anyway, I always enjoy reading your posts because they are informative, have good pictures, explanations and have good progress. Keep it up. It looks awesome.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: TATurbo on September 05, 2018, 09:25:16 PM
Looking good Ryan!  Your info on test firing the engine was helpful. And it got me thinking maybe I should try turning mine over sooner rather than later? 
I have a couple questions though...
1) Is it 'OK' to fire the motor up for a couple minutes without coolant? (I don't have a radiator yet)
    1b.  If I do fire it without the radiator, should the accessory belt be removed (so as not to drive the dry water pump?
2) What about the transmission fluid cooling lines?
     With no radiator, you don't have those lines connected right? Do you have those plugged? Or looped somehow? Or do you not have the trans filled up?

I thought I had a couple others, but I can't remember them.
 

Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 06, 2018, 06:00:19 AM
Thanks 76455sd. Yeah I'm more concerned about having functional tail lights at this point than what year they are. That will be moved to my winter list.

FormTA, the 5.3 is for sale now. :)

TATurbo,

1) there aren't any issues with running an engine without coolant for under a minute. If you run it any longer than that the issue is with no coolant the cylinder walls heat up rapidly with no way to dissipate the heat. I didn't have my accessories hooked for the same reason as you. I didn't want the water pump to spin dry. Plus I don't have my pulley pressed onto the power steering pump and didn't want to test too many variables at once.

2) I have a 6 speed in my car so I don't have any cooler lines and I currently don't have a transmission hooked to the motor during the test fire. I wanted to hook as little to the motor as possible so I didn't have to undo it if the motor was junk. If I were you and wanted to test fire the motor without the radiator hooked up I would hook both lines coming from the trans together with a temporary hose. If not when you spin the engine over, it will spray fluid all over. You wouldn't want to run the engine without having any fluid in the trans as it will be spinning your trans even if it's in park.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: TATurbo on September 06, 2018, 08:16:31 PM
Thanks for clarifying Ryan!  I'll just wait I think...Should only be a few more weeks.  After 3 years off work, a few weeks wont put me behind.

Appreciate the feedback.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 10, 2018, 09:03:11 AM
Any opportunity that I had this weekend I spent thrashing on this car. I didn't end up getting as many pictures as I wanted, but that's how it goes sometimes. Late last week I swapped over the oil pans to get the Holley pan on the new motor. I bolted the motor and transmission together prior to torquing down the oil pan to use it as a guide to ensure the pan is flush with the motor. This is outlined in the Holley instructions, but they recommended something flat. I figured since the trans is already out to just use it.

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While the motor was back out I took the opportunity to make a slight notch to the motor mount for better access to the low mount A/C compressor. Much easier to get to now.

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Next up was swapping over the new LS7 clutch and flywheel.

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Then I slid the transmission back together, re-checked to be sure that the slave cylinder was all tight and got it torqued down. Then I reinstalled the whole assembly.

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Now, there is a fairly large gap in progress. It took me a while to re-install everything back to the way it was. I put the core support back in after I welded two captured nuts that had broken off. One was in the passenger side fender mount and the other I had to relocate the fender brace. It wasn't centered, so I moved it where it should have been. I also pressed on the PS pulley, bolted on the new tensioner, new Gates belt, shimmed idler pulley, and other misc. parts to get the engine to run with coolant.

Once that was done, I finally was able to install the dual pass aluminum radiator I picked up at Carlisle. It fit great and looks so much better than the stock one with the upper hose mount on the passenger side. It gives much more room for the CAI.

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Only complaint I have with the radiator is that there was no option for a manual transmission with no built in cooler.

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Here is some video evidence.

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Overall, I'm super happy with the progress this weekend. The only thing holding me back from driving it again was that I need to bleed my clutch and fill the trans with fluid. I'm hoping to get those taken care of soon, and it will be mobile again. Should hear back this week from my glass guy. Once the glass is set, I need to install my shocks (possibly modify shock plate for rear disks), exhaust, headlights, wipers. Then get my front end back together and make an appointment for an inspection. If all goes well, I'm hoping in the next 2 weeks I can legally drive it down the road! Keeping my fingers crossed.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on September 10, 2018, 11:12:49 AM
Man you make quick work of things. Looking great. Hang in there you still have some nice days left in this year to drive it.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 737driver on September 12, 2018, 11:22:08 PM
Really coming along quite well! keep up the great work!
Jim
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: scarebird on September 12, 2018, 11:34:10 PM
... Once the glass is set, I need to install my shocks (possibly modify shock plate for rear disks)...
Ryan

Why would you need to mod the shock plate?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on September 13, 2018, 06:00:21 AM
To move the shock inboard to clear the backing plate/ caliper from the disc conversion.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 13, 2018, 06:14:32 AM
FormTA is right, I will likely have to move the lower placement of the shock to clear the caliper. I could have made life easy and used two LH assemblies to clear the staggered shocks, but I like the symmetry so I chose the hard way.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: mrbandit on September 13, 2018, 06:36:03 AM
Ryan, I can't remember if you did this on your last LS build, but I wanted to mention that the oil fill extension tube comes out of the cover and the oil screw cap screws into the hole previously occupied by the fill tube.  We just built my brothers 6.0 LS stroker motor and that is what we did with his.  The extension never bothered me before until he did that and the look is so much cleaner. 
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 14, 2018, 05:55:52 AM
I tried deleting it and maybe it's because I'm using the flatter LS1 style coils, but without the extension on there you cannot turn the cap. When I did it originally I had the cap on first and put the coils on, but when I went to fill it I had to remove the coils to get it off. I'll have to look into it more this winter.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 14, 2018, 09:43:41 AM
I sent an email to DSE about the springs and I didn't realize it but the springs are designed to work with their lower control arms which have a drop pocket in them. So that is the reason that mine appeared to actually lift the front of the car. I they are going to get back to me with a ratio for cutting the spring and what that translates into a drop. I've read that most springs in that rate translate to a 1:2 ratio, but I'll wait to see what they say.

In other news, I got my clutch bled last night and the issue that I was having with the cam code P0343 was resolved by swapping the two outer wires for the cam sensor. This was causing the car to run in Open Loop which made it run very rich as it defaults to the conservative tables. I still have a lot of work to do with the tune, but now that I fixed the cam sensor wiring it fires right up in half a crank.

Other issues I've been having is that I was getting a lot of pressure pulling from the PVC ports, but I realized that I only had the dirty air port coming from the LS6 valley cover, but no fresh air intake. I have since connected my passenger side valve cover port to the fresh air port on my TB. I'm hoping that solves some of my issue.

Someone must be looking out for me because when I was working on the car last night I decided to tackle the rear shock plate and see how it will interfere with my LS1 rear brakes. I chose not to use two LH assemblies because I wanted to keep the symmetry between the sides, and I just didn't like the thought of it. So I had every intention of having to modify the shock plate to relocate the shock, but it actually fit without any modifications. The only thing that I had to do was re-route my brake hose and will eventually need to bend up a new line. WIN!!

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The flash really makes things look dirty... Not that bad in person.

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Hard to see, but there is plenty of room around the shock and the caliper for it to float properly. The pads that are in it are new so that is as far out as they will ever get.

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Here is the driver's side. Went in without any issues.

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And from the rear. While I was swapping the plates I also cut down the U-bolts to a more manageable size. They were quite long before as they were for a truck lift kit of some sort.

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Overall, stoked that the rear shocks were that easy. I was thinking it was going to be much more complicated. Now the biggest things I need to finish before I can get it inspected and drive it are a windsheild, wiring for signals/headlights, re-install front end and fabricating an exhaust. Unfortunately the glass guy was supposed to come today and install, but they canceled yesterday so it won't be until about two weeks when they can come next. So my goal now is to get everything else done so I can maybe coordinate the glass being installed in the morning and an inspection that afternoon.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 24, 2018, 09:51:36 AM
That's a good idea, I'll just run it through the travel and see if I have any issues.

As for the glass, I was able to have my father-in-law stop over and let the guy in this past Friday. It was a combination of me being at a conference all last week and their schedule for the week before. But now the glass is installed for good! I had to install all of the trim clips before they installed the glass. I'm very happy that I ended up buying new glass. I wouldn't have been happy with the old glass with scratches and delamination.

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Before I could install the new glass I wanted to get the VIN tag reinstalled. Cleaned it up and resprayed it to match the dash.

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And with the new glass! So happy with the way it turned out and I ended up getting the glass with the slight green tint and top dark strip.

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Next up on my list of things to do was finishing my exhaust. If this was one place that I was going to go a little cheap on it is here. I didn't want to spend a lot for a few reasons. I'm not entirely sure what the future will hold for me. I would like to try my luck with a turbo and that would mean I woudln't use the majority of this system. On the other hand, I may want to stay NA and get a proper exhaust with long tubes and etc. Either way I basically re-used exhaust pieces that I had or had given to me. I've got about $100 bucks into it including the headers, v-bands for the headers, x-pipe kit, and Flowmaster Super 40 mufflers.

It took quite a while to get all the pipes lined up and kept in the center. I got the 3" pipes as close to the floor as possible while still leaving room for it to have proper airflow.

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Then I was able to get the mufflers on and fully welded. I'll be running turn down's for the time being while I think about if I want tail pipes or not.

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Then I sprayed some high temp paint to help with rust.

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Doesn't look like it, but there is plenty of room around the driveshaft for it to move up and down.

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I'm very happy with how the exhaust tucked up so nicely. The notches in the transmission crossmember helped out tremendously with this effort. This is roughly level with the frame.

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And from even lower.

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I started it up quick to see what it would sound like and it has a low mellow rumble which I was really digging. But It had a few exhaust leaks to fix before I can get a true sound. I just need to get some exhaust clamps and weld on some hangers.

One of the next smaller projects I have been working on for the last few weeks was my cooling fan project. I bought a universal 14" cooling fan before I bought this dual pass radiator with shroud, but the fan shroud is for a 16" cooling fan. Being that this is a Penny Pincher project, I gave it some thought, took a few measurements and decided to make an adapter ring. I had a sheet of heavier gauge stainless from my gas tank project I didn't and that fit the bill.

Started out with my trusty cardboard template.

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Then I translated those measurements to my stainless sheet. Wow, does stainless cut hard...

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I welded some stainless studs to the back side of the adapter ring for the fan to bolt to then used the existing weld nuts that were on the shroud to mount the ring assembly to the shroud. I also was a little disappointed with the shroud itself. I bought them as a pair so that I could minimize my fabrication and turned out that the fan shroud was about 1/4" too wide to fit between the radiator tanks like it was supposed to. After giving it some thought I trimmed the top and bottom widths to match the radiator and bent the sides in to match. It worked well, but was disappointed that I had to modify something that was supposed to work together. Here is the complete assembly waiting to go back in.

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I'm hoping to get the last few things on my list done this week and schedule an appointment to get the car inspected. I tried to tackle the harder things first, so now that the windshield and exhaust is nearly done, I should be able to get the last few things done this week. I'm basically down to: functional wipers, lower trim on the front glass (holds down the cowl piece), seatbelts, side mirrors, horn, re-install front end/hood/cowl and double check signal wiring.

Keeping my fingers crossed!

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on September 24, 2018, 10:16:10 AM
You're almost there Ryan, gonna sound like a broken record but your work is top notch. You'll be glad you went with new glass. I dont think it cost all that much and it looks so much better than the old stuff.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on September 24, 2018, 03:30:15 PM
So long as you don't go crazy on lowering it looks like there'll be more than enough ground clearance, or you could be the first to stance bro a first gen Camaro either way. :P
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 25, 2018, 08:13:03 AM
Haha Box. I'm definitely not going to stance my car, but that is an interesting thought... I'm just hoping to get the front to match the rear or just slightly less gap. Right now it's sitting about 3" higher than the rear!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on September 25, 2018, 08:14:44 AM
Not sure what a 'stance bro' is. Are you heading to fall Carlisle Ryan?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 25, 2018, 08:17:46 AM
You ever see the tuner cars where the tires are way undersized and kicked way out at the bottom? That's a stanced car. Not my taste, but who am I to judge. I've been thinking about it, but went for broke to get the car running/driving and don't have any free cash at the moment. Definitely in the Spring though.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on September 25, 2018, 09:43:42 AM
Gotcha, I was thinking it was the giant oversized wheels. I understand about the swap meet. I live close enough that its not that big of a deal. Stars are aligning properly at the moment and it looks like I will be able to make the trip this time. Not really looking to buy, I just like going.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on September 25, 2018, 04:47:03 PM
Just think of the challenge of getting camber into the rear though. :P  Nah I don't get it either, but I'm a function over form kind of person.  That said I like lowered, but I still want at least an inch or so between the tire and fender/quarter for aesthetics and functionality.  To me having the tires shoved up into the fender/quarter doesn't look good, but that could be my logic talking more than anything.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 79merlin on September 26, 2018, 05:23:39 AM
Excellent work as always.

I was thinking on the trans cooler ports on the radiator. My 1999 suburban had oil cooler lines on that side (drivers). The trans cooler lines ran down the passenger side. In fact I have never seen a GM with trans cooler lines running down the drivers side. Not that I have tinkered on alot of them. Not sure exactly how you would plumb it, but i think in theory you could use those to cool the engine oil. just a thought for putting those ports to use.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on September 26, 2018, 05:10:08 PM
Built in "coolers" on radiators are more like warmers than anything, it's just a brass tube circling through an area of moving coolant.  Unless whatever going into the radiator is marginally hotter, and in which case you have a problem with most any fluid you want to be cool, it won't do any cooling really.  The reason automatics have them is more so for getting the trans fluid up to operating temp for efficiency and shifting smooth sooner, and especially in the cold.  Though I can't foresee the need for standalone coolers unless you're racing it or in extreme heat climates, or that particular component in a particular car is notorious for overheating stock like the 4th gen power steering.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 27, 2018, 05:34:07 AM
I thought I saw somewhere online that had plugs for those ports so that is likely what I'll do at this point. Unless I have an issue with overheating, I'm likely going to keep them plugged. The only other thing that I had considered was possibly plumbing up my PS like box said. Since I have 4th gen engine accessories.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: kentucky yeti on September 27, 2018, 11:25:10 AM
I really like this build!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on September 27, 2018, 11:59:23 AM
Thanks Mike! I still haven't used my NPD gift card yet. I'm hoping to place an order after at some point in mid January. They expire at the end of February so I can't forget.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 01, 2018, 08:44:41 AM
I made a ton of progress this weekend on the car. I have been slightly held up because the last thing I needed to do to button up the engine install was getting the balancer bolt torqued properly. After dropping the starter on my face while under the car, we managed to get the bolt torqued down. Once that was done it was go time. I had been cleaning up parts like the core support so I can just bolt it all back together.

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I didn't take a whole lot of pictures during the re-assemby. I was busy working and it's been apart so many times that I didn't want to be redundant. Here are a few along the way.

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One thing that gave me a bunch of trouble was the driver side turning signal. The socket was corroded and the spring that kept pressure on the contacts was rusted away. So I ended up swapping sockets with another 67 turn signal and it worked out perfectly. I really wanted to keep the original 68 housings that I got at Carlisle as they were off of an original 1968 Z/28 RS in Tripoli Turquoise. There was even a little Turquoise overspray on them. Sounds dumb, but I really like having original parts on the car verse reproduction parts. Even if they aren't in the best shape. 90% of the RS parts on my car are original GM parts.

Anyway, here is the car with the front end all back together. I'm so happy with the way it turned out from the paint to panel alignment to ease of installation.

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I also installed a set of the LED switchbacks I picked up a long time ago. They are white when the lights are on, and when the turn signal is activated it turns to amber, then pauses and turns back to white when the signal is canceled. Pretty slick and they are super bright. I want to get a set for the tail lights as well.

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Another shot of the engine. It really looks like home in there. I still need to clean up some of the wiring loom, but very happy with the results.

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I also thought that I would share in a tool that I bought for crimping the Packard 56 terminals. It still needs to be slightly modified as it bents the bottom of the terminal slightly, but overall for the $15 bucks I paid it does a great job. It's a ratcheting type that has interchangeable jaws so it does a few other functions as well. Out of the box it does 90% of what I want it to do and once I modify the one jaw I'll update this thread with a perfectly crimped terminal.

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The moment that I have been waiting for since I bought this car almost 3 years ago, my first test drive. I worked all night Friday to get the car back together, then for several hours on Saturday afternoon while the kiddo was at his grandma's and the wife was jogging. It was finally close enough for me to get it out on the open road. My father-in-law stopped over and gave me a hand giving everything a once over to see if I missed anything simple that could give me an issue. He found a hose clamp and a few loose bolts. After that it was game on. I started it up and pulled it outside to let it get up to operating temperature. Once it was up to 187* I verified that the thermostat was operating and headed down the drive way.

I only got a few pictures because it was just me and I didn't want to get busy taking pictures and miss something like no oil pressure or overheating.

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My first stop was to the gas station right down the road from me. Of course it was super busy there and I had to dodge traffic with an unfamiliar car, new clutch, fresh paint, and etc. Topped it off with 5 gallons of 93 and headed over to my parent's house about 5 miles away. My mom knew I was coming over, but my dad had no idea. He knew I was close, but not that close. He was super happy for me and just kept looking at the car. I took him for a ride up the road and he was impressed with the LS power. I snapped a few pictures while I was there.

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My first impressions of the car are that it seems quite refined for having been totally stripped apart down the the bare shell. The engine and transmission worked together perfectly as it revved freely and shifted smooth and firm. I have about 40 psi oil pressure at idle and had about 60 psi around 4500 rpms. The clutch is brand new so it will likely take a few hundred miles for it to be fully broken in, but after driving it around it feels great so far. My Vaporworx modified 5th gen fuel pump was quite and provided all the fuel I needed.

The chassis was tight and I didn't notice any squeaks or other strange sounds. I did notice some sort of suspension clunking sound on the passenger side rear end. I haven't had a chance to see what it could have been, but I'm leaning towards either exhaust or possibly the caliper to shock. Hoping that it's not the second, but if so I'll need to modify it to gain clearance. The front springs are DSE 2" lowering springs, but what I didn't realize was they are designed to be used with their lower control arms as they have a drop pocket built in. So with them installed it actually raised my front ride. DSE said that I would need to cut roughly 1/4 coil for every 1/2" I want to drop the wheel. I'm going to need to cut 1 coil to drop it down 2" and see where it settles from there. Once I cut the coils I want to get it aligned as I think currently the car is toed in as it wanted to dart when driving down the road.

Overall, I couldn't be happier with a first time out. It performed flawlessly and was very fun to drive. Once I straighten out the few issues I have with the car it should be very reliable. I also noted that there were zero leaks on the car. I re-used some of the gaskets on the LS motor and figured I might have an oil leak somewhere, but I can happily report zero leaks. My buddy has a friend who does inspections and said that he could get my car in possibly this Friday so I can be 100% legal. Then I can maybe take it to one of the last cruise in car shows near me.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 76455sd on October 01, 2018, 10:04:03 AM
congrats on the maiden voyage.  Glad to hear you were able to do that.
What's the status of the interior?  did you settle on a hood configuration?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 01, 2018, 11:29:09 AM
Thanks man! The interior is MIA haha. I'm planning on running what I have which is some standard 1968 interior that is medium blue. I'm going to attempt to dye the panels black. If it turns out decent I'll run that for a while. The original kick panels are black that are the panels my car was born with. Score! I'll get a new carpet and maybe some new seat covers. The problem I have is that interior parts add up quickly... When I did my 1976 Trans Am the 1973 parts car I bought had a nearly mint interior which I took all of it. So I really never priced out the pieces new.

As for the hood I already have the cowl hood painted in my basement. Just waiting for the wipers to go back in first, then I can button that all up. I'm very anxious to see the car panels 100% together.

Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on October 01, 2018, 03:48:46 PM
Don't blame you on wanting original parts, more often than not they always work better than aftermarket.  Once in a blue moon you'll have aftermarket pieces that fit as well or better.  Congrats on getting it "on the road" per se!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: scarebird on October 01, 2018, 04:29:40 PM
good work, Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 79GoldnTan on October 01, 2018, 06:46:21 PM
Congrats, looks great!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on October 02, 2018, 04:54:41 AM
Congratulations Ryan. You can see my other response in the "today I" thread. Love the car, love the rs.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 737driver on October 02, 2018, 09:54:42 AM
You gotta love that "First Drive" !Great work as always!
Jim
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: LeighP on October 02, 2018, 10:44:54 PM
Awesome.....inspiring work, Ryan. Well done!!!!  :cool:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 10, 2018, 09:59:50 AM
Thanks for all of the positive feedback! I am just so excited that the car is running and driving again. 50 years ago this car was a brand new car off the showroom floor, and I gave it a new lease on life to hit the road again.

I figured I would give another update since yesterday was so nice I decided to take the car a little further and continue with the rear gear break in process. Basically Richmond says with new gears I have to drive between 45-55 mph for about 15-20 min increments 3-4 times letting the gears get hot and fully cooled down each increment.

I set my timer for 8 minutes and drove down a nice windy back road then will turn around and come back. The car performed flawlessly and just has tons of power everywhere. I'm so happy with this engine/trans/rear combination that it's hard to put into words. It chirps the tires when I shift in just about every gear, not on purpose mind you. On the way up and back the road I was taking it easy and just enjoying rowing through the gears. It was a beautiful sunny fall day which was why I couldn't resist taking the car out in the first place. On the way back on the long straightaway back to my house I just let the car rip. Wow, does it run. I was doing ~75-80ish before I knew it in 3rd gear. I took it up to 6k rpms and it sounded amazing! The motor just kept pulling and didn't want to stop. I can see myself bouncing off of the rev limiter in my future.

The only thing that I really have to complain about is a few times the transmission was grinding going into gear. I'm not entirely sure if it was my rusty shifting skills or if the transmission is going to need some syncros soon. The other possibility is that the release bearing may need to be bled again. I also had a few squeaks and rattles, but that was expected. I'll narrow those down along the way.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: kentucky yeti on October 10, 2018, 10:20:02 AM
Congrats on the test drives and no major surprises encountered.  But actually, we have come to expect no less from you and your car skills. Well done!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on October 10, 2018, 11:34:28 AM
Great post! It has to be exciting to drive your creation!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Nexus on October 11, 2018, 09:25:10 PM
Congrats on the maiden voyage...she looks sweet...I'm happy for you
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 78TA_In87 on October 13, 2018, 04:15:54 PM
Nice work and progress!

Wish I could hire you to finish mine.   
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 17, 2018, 06:36:51 AM
Thanks for all of the compliments. I was so stoked to finally drive the car after almost 3 years of hard work restoring the car.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on October 30, 2018, 08:33:58 AM
It's been a few weeks since I've had an update. I got a little burnt out from pushing so hard to be able to drive it this year. Well cold weather is here in Upstate, NY and the car is up on stands and will be up until spring. I've really just been tinkering on the car here and there, but had enough progress that it could qualify for an update. One thing I have been working on is getting the upper cowl piece installed. I didn't realize that the lower trim piece actually held on the cowl. I was missing one of the end clips and had it for a while before I attempted to install it. I was very disappointed with the lack of fitment. It was completely the wrong shape and was actually too short to reach where the original screw was. after a lot of tweaking I was able to make it work well enough to get it to hold with a screw in the stock location.

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I also test fit my wiper arm with new blades and was happily surprised to find that my wiper motor works 100%. It will turn high, low, and then return back to the off position. I've read where some motors have bad internal grounding and will just stop where ever you shut them off.

Another project I started on was figuring out my fuel level sender. I'm not sure what is causing the level sensor to error out, but I figured now that I have a programmable gauge, I'll just use the stock LS3 fuel level sensor that is located on the fuel pump assembly. I removed it initially, but don't want to pay another $40 bucks for another universal, and I already had the one that came with my pump. I searched around and couldn't seem to find any concrete data showing the fuel level ohms for the 5th gen pump. I confirmed that the full level is 240-33 ohms empty to full. I also double checked hooking it to my gauge and it works properly.

Empty:

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Full:

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I also have a good parts update. I picked up a pair of brand new LH/Driver's side 98-02 Fbody backing plates for my LS1 rear brakes. When I did the swap originally I wanted to keep the brakes symmetrical but the rear caliper is just too close to the shock for my comfort. I got a great deal from a member her on PT, and he also included a set of brackets to use the stock ebrake cables that were custom made for 1st gens and some spacers. I'm hoping to get those swapped out soon and while I'm pulling the axles, I'm going to drill them out for 1/2" studs to match the front.

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I've also been doing some maintenance on my Daily Driver 03 Silverado. I checked my oil a while back and noticed that there was a flake of rust! WTF, so upon closer review I noticed that the dipstick was rusting in half. So I swapped that out for an AC Delco replacement.

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Then when I was changing the plugs a few weeks ago, I finally decided to extract the two rear manifold bolts that broke the heads off. Anyone that has been around these trucks know that it's all too common for the heads of the bolts to pop off. Well mine started to cause an awful manifold leak and drove me nuts. Best method for getting them out without pulling the manifolds is to weld a nut to the head. Sounds a lot easier than it was. 3 hours later I finally got them both removed and replaced with new revised bolts. The problem wasn't really getting to the bolts it was getting the welds to stick. Everything was rusted and I couldn't just put a grinder in there to clean it up.

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My plan for the next few months will be to:

-Get the front springs pulled back out, cut and re-installed to drop the front end where it should be
-Pull the axles, drill for 1/2" studs, swap on my new LH
-Finish/Tidy up all of my wiring (tail light harness, fuel level sender, Fan relays, etc)
-Re-finish and install interior components.
-See if I can fit tail pipes/weld on a wideband bung

All for now.
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on October 30, 2018, 06:46:30 PM
Nice score on the rear break kit! Oh, and remember these cars had really bad fit and finish anything you do as far as trim and anything on the body will be 100% better than factory. I am amazed you got those broken bolts out. Great job!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Boosted78TA on October 31, 2018, 09:59:38 AM
Looking good, sorry about  your cold weather, i get to continue cause its still 85 during the day here.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on November 19, 2018, 08:37:55 AM
Thanks boosted. For some reason I don't feel any better haha. :lol:

Haven't touched the car in a few weeks, been busy getting the house prepped for winter and cutting/splitting/stacking firewood. I had some time in the garage, and wanted to clear off my workbench first. I put up some shelves and signs that I have been meaning to put up for a while now. What I started with.

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And after my signs and shelves were up. I had a bunch of signs from my last house, but haven't taken the time to hang them up. I have a few upper cabinets that I want to hang up too no the other side of the garage too.

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Once the bench was cleared off, I finished up one of the little projects I have been working on. I wanted a clean place to house the two programming buttons for the Dakota Digital gauges, but wanted them to be out of sight. I figured the ash tray would be the best spot for them. I bent up this little bracket that bolted through the little hole in the tray and used a tapered screw. Worked great and was super solid. I used a piece of 14 gauge stainless scrap I had in my metal pile.

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Now I need to take it back apart and paint the inside of the ash tray as well as my new bracket and screw. I'll paint it a satin black so hopefully it will all disappear if/when I open it. I also left room in case I ever wanted to add other switches.

I also finished up my wiper arm repair. I had the original wiper arms from my car, and wanted to use them it was missing the spring and clip. My Pa had several other arms and we found the parts to rob so we could get mine functioning again.

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All for now, but I'm hoping to slowly start reassembling the cowl piece so I can fit the hood! I haven't seen the car together yet with all the body panels. I cleaned up the hood hinges a while ago, just need to spray them with some satin paint and I'll be all set to put the hood back on. I need to have the hood on in order to set the gaps for the cowl piece. Then I can button down the front for good. Good thing is I can take my time since it's a solid 5 months until I can drive it again...

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Jack on November 19, 2018, 11:30:04 AM
Some progress is better than no progress, btw I like the fender/clock setup.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on November 19, 2018, 12:14:57 PM
 At least you are marking items off your list. I haven't touched my project.... Barn has taken all of my time.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on November 19, 2018, 12:53:57 PM
Thanks Jack. Oh and Form, not to mention the broken ribs slowing you down.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: jpe on November 24, 2018, 12:46:48 AM
This is a great build, nice job!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Nexus on December 01, 2018, 11:03:37 AM
Hidden ash tray idea is such a good spot...to be honest, It never occurred to me to hide something there!!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on December 03, 2018, 08:13:12 AM
It's been a little while since I've had a meaningful car post, but I finally got the motivation to do some work on the car again. My wife went to bed early on Friday night and I decided it was time to tear apart my rear end again. I recently picked up a pair of brand new GM LH backing plates for the LS1 rear brakes. I already had the LS1 rear brakes on the car, but the passenger side caliper and shock were too close for comfort. It kinda felt wrong because it seems like I just got it all buttoned up, but I should have just done it right the first time. Live and learn. Started with the Driver's side.

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Now because I'm using the two LH assemblies it causes the ebrake levers to pull from a different direction, so to fix that you simply need to remove the lever assembly and swap it 180*. That way both assemblies will pull towards the front. What I started with.

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In order to make the assembly pull towards the front you simply pull both sliders out, pull the lever out, flip it 180*, reinstall the lever and reinstall the sliders on the opposite sides. Then you re-install the parts in the reverse order they were disassembled. It was really that easy and took no more than 5 mins. The only real downside is that you loose the locking adjuster, but for the amount I drive the car, it shouldn't be an issue.

Front pull conversion finished. It's also worth noting that I don't need to do this with the passenger side since swapping sides, it will pull from the front since the sides are not mirrored any longer.

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Picture of the passenger side with the caliper now staggered away from the shock. Much safer now.

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The other thing that I picked up with the backing plates were these slick little brackets that will allow me to use my stock ebrake cables. I picked them up from a guy on pro-touring.com, but I believe these were actually made by the guy that did the write-up here: https://www.camaros.net/forums/16-brakes-suspension-steering/161383-ls1-rear-disc-install-lots-pictures.html

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I also picked up some very lightly used caliper brackets, so I cleaned them up and painted the same satin black as the calipers.

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Then the driver's side was all re-installed and ready to go back together. I didn't take any pictures as it doesn't look any different than before. At this point the only thing that I need to do to finish up this swap is a new LH brake caliper. I bought a used LH C5 caliper that is on it's way. One I clean it up and paint it satin black, I'll swap the brakes back over and the rear brakes are done. Then I can focus on getting the e-brakes functional.

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I called it quits on Friday night and had some more time again on Saturday to attempt the other bigger project that's been on my mind. Ever since I first installed those DSE front springs, I was unhappy how much it lifted the front of the car. Come to find out the DSE springs are meant to work with their own lower control arms that have a ~2" drop pocket, which is why their 2" lowering springs ended up raising my ride height. After messaging with their customer service, which was excellent by the way, they informed me that with their springs 1/4 coil equals 1/2" of drop. After measuring the car and deciding where I wanted the drop to end up, wanted to cut 1 1/4 coils off to give me a 2.5" drop. I cut it a little moderately in the hopes that the springs will settle and potentially give me more like a 3" drop.

Before I cut anything:

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Here we go again...

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MUCH BETTER!

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This much closer to what I was expecting with a drop spring.

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Before I cut anything I took some measurements from the only place that I could really find a consistency. I measured from the top of the wheel arch to the top of the rim. The DSE calculation was nearly spot on. I'm hoping that once the hood is bolted down and the springs settle slightly that it will give it a little more rake.

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Overall lots of progress this weekend and now that these two projects are done, for me it's just a bunch of small projects now.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on December 10, 2018, 08:21:21 AM
Another weekend and I made some more significant progress. I really wanted to get my hood installed on the car so that a kid or animal didn't damage it from sitting on the floor. My Dad and Father-in-law have been busy recently and I was anxious, so I made the decision to just do it myself. It was definitely sketchy, but I grabbed as many clean blankets and towels I could find and padded my cowl area. I went in from the driver side and let the hood corner rest on the cowl. Once I got the first bolt in the hinge, I was good to go. I took my time and got the hood in a good spot where I am ok with the gaps. I think the hood was tweaked slightly by laying on the floor of my basement, so I'm going to see if I can tweak it a little to fit the crown a little better.

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While I was setting the gaps on the hood, I was also setting the gaps on the cowl panel. I also had to shim the cowl on both ends to match the height of the fender. After I removed the tape and locked the panel down for good, it looked much better.

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Then a few shots of the engine bay. It's almost complete, just need to finish up a little wiring and finalize the CAI.

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While I was working on fitting the hood and cowl, I was also cleaning and painting up some parts. I finally received my LH C5 caliper to finish off my rear brakes. It was really clean as is, but I wiped it down and put a fresh coat of the Semi-Gloss heat paint to match the other calipers. It turned out great.

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The other piece was my ebrake petal assembly, just basically scuffed and shot with a Semi-Gloss. It's flatter than it looks in the picture.

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Then on Saturday afternoon when my son was napping and wife was busy, it was time finalize the rear brakes. I had been keeping the RH caliper on there until I was ready to swap them over. Then I quickly swapped them over to reduce the amount of fluid loss. Looks great and I was able to bend the brake lines back to where they were originally. I had to re-route and bend the lines slightly when I had the RH side installed to avoid hitting the shock. So that makes me happy.

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As I was working along, I was taking some inventory of what I have on my car and what I still need and got the itch to install the side mirror and marker lights. This is the fun part! Just bolt it on and step back! So much easier than cleaning up and painting parts.

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Before someone says it, I know they are Nova front marker lights. I like the amber color.

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All the progress for now.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 76455sd on December 10, 2018, 09:48:59 AM
looks like the exterior is pretty much complete and it looks great!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Jack on December 11, 2018, 07:16:27 PM
X2 great work and you still have 3 to 4 month before you can take her on the road.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: mrbandit on December 11, 2018, 09:28:22 PM
What's up with the nova lights....Just kidding.

As always, your work sets the bar high.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 737driver on December 12, 2018, 03:23:13 AM
Great job on the front springs! That new height looks great!
Jim
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on December 12, 2018, 07:25:37 AM
Looks good Ryan, My hats off to you for installing the hood by yourself! I did about 99.9% of the work on my car by myself, but I did have to recruit my wife for help when I installed the hood.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on December 12, 2018, 08:10:18 AM
Thanks for all of the compliments guys! I'm really starting to get excited about this project coming to an end. One thing that I'm struggling with is putting old parts on the new fresh paint job. I just need to draw a line in the sand because I really want to drive this car. I'm basically going to use the parts that I have, unless they are totally trashed, like my marker light bezels. I am ready to stop spending money on parts and spending money on gas. 8-)
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: kentucky yeti on December 12, 2018, 08:55:50 AM
So jealous!  I love watching your work.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: scarebird on December 12, 2018, 01:29:21 PM
Not that you desire to do this, but is it possible to fit the vent windows to a 68?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on December 13, 2018, 06:32:19 AM
I think that it may be possible scarebird. I've not looked into putting the vent window in a 68 door. I know that 67 and 68 doors are different enough to require their own hinges and door panels. One thing about the first gen Camaro's that I've found is that many parts are unique year over year. It makes sourcing original parts difficult at times. Although the aftermarket literally reproduces any part that came on a 1st gen so there is always that.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: scarebird on December 13, 2018, 08:35:58 AM
So the 68 door panel hang over the top and the 67's are flat with the door itself being the upper edge?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on December 13, 2018, 01:50:45 PM
Yes, the top part of the 67 door is usually painted the interior color and has a flat door panel where as the 68 door has a door panel that goes up and over the metal door frame, just like all 2nd gens.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on December 13, 2018, 08:14:41 PM
Correct.  Not many if any are interchangeable.  I collect all of the 67 parts that I can as they are hard to find.  I have 3 sets of vent windows...
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: TATurbo on December 16, 2018, 12:21:55 AM
I don't think I've checked in on this post in a while Ryan.  Been so wrapped up in my own project...The Camaro looks great.  I'm happy to see you were able to get a few miles in before winter set in.
I love those 'switchback' LED lights.  I hadn't seen those before.  When I get my car out for body and paint I might try to figure out away to use something like that on my TA.  I had already been trying to think of how/where a set of 'driving' or 'fog' lights could fit in the front end. sounds like a nice side project.
  I love the look of 'em in the lower valance of your Camaro. 

Thanks for your help and advice as I'm working the kinks out of my project. Appreciate it.


-Tom
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: superduke on December 16, 2018, 11:47:07 AM
Just caught up on your build over last 11 months. Incredible work dude, very very inspiring! Looks Fantastic!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on December 18, 2018, 09:57:21 AM
I made a small bit of progress buttoning up some little tasks. It was one of those nights where I found myself not staying focused on one task. I started by painting the inner cowl's with a Rustoleum product that is similar to POR, but is oil based. I like it more than POR15 because it is oil based, but the one drawback is it takes several days to fully cure. I just need to clean up the kick panels now and add some sealer puddy and then I can install the ebrake lever assembly.

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Next was cleaning up and reinstalling the Astro Vents. It took me a little while to get everything lined up, but I got them re-installed and they look good. I'm planning on making a purchase to National Parts Depot very soon and I think I'm just going to get some new vents. These are very faded and some of the "chrome" is lifting. Although I need to prioritize what I NEED verse what I WANT. The chrome vents would be a quick and easy upgrade down the road, so I may just pass on them.

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Next is my attempt at saving some bucks. I saw how many people just buy the BBC heater core and flip them in the heater box, then trim a hole in the outer heater box when doing the LS swaps go give a little more room. I got to looking at my heater core and it had both of the tube that had the solder broken but otherwise in good shape. I thought, well how hard would it be to just make my own tubes from copper and solder them in place of the stock ones. Then I could save $75 bucks rather than a new heater core. After a little measuring and a trip to the parts store, I decided to give it a try. I started with this.

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First tube in place. It's definitely promising.

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I used several pictures of the stock BBC heater cores as a reference of how to bend my tubes. Once the tubes were in place, I decided to solder the top tube in place and see how it fit. That way if I need to adjust I only had to move one, not both.

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Not a great picture of the solder, but here is that as well as the retaining clip that needed to be trimmed slightly.

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I made this little holder from cardboard on where I thought the tubes should be to hold the lower tube in place since it wasn't soldered.

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Then it was time for the first test fit. I honestly couldn't have been happier with the initial fitment. Nothing touches and it lined up perfectly. Very pleased with that. Keep in mind the lower isn't soldered yet, so it looks wonky.

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Here is both a picture of the soldered lower section and a pinhole from cracked solder that I found after filling it water.

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Here is my super high tech method for checking leaks.

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I was running out of time and didn't get a chance to finish, but I did have one tiny leak on the opposite side that I need to fix. I also bought some parts to build a pressure tester. I've been wanting to build one of these for a long time and what better excuse. Basically some fittings from the hardware store and an old Round-Up sprayer. It builds pressure to 10 psi, but I have a leak somewhere and didn't get a chance to fix that either. I think I need a check valve in the round up container. I think that's where it's leaking. Originally I picked up that old sprayer to use as a cheap version of the "Mighty Vac" for bleeding brakes. But I've adapted it for just building pressure.

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Not a car post, but I thought this was pretty cool. Don't shame me, but I was getting a burger recently at McDonald's and when I was looking at my receipt I noticed that my number in line was 1320. For anyone that doesn't know, that is how many feet in a quarter mile. I guess the car gods are telling me that I need some drag slicks! At least maybe that's how I'll explain it to my wife.

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Cheers for now,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 79merlin on December 18, 2018, 12:18:04 PM
nice update. If replacing the heater core on a first gen is anything like on a second gen I would have invested in the new one, but that's because replacing it is 3 weeks worth of garage time for me. lol

Your receipt comment reminds me of the other day. I was driving with the wife. Stopped at a light. Realized that my odometer was exactly my zip code. had to take a pic (that didnt turn out). we car folk are odd ducks sometimes... haha
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on December 30, 2018, 11:20:49 PM
Been working on the car on and off while I've been on holiday break from work. I've been mostly taking care of some small things here and there. I finished up the conversion from SB to BBC heater core, and confirmed overnight that it held pressure. I know it's not a big deal, but I think it's pretty cool.

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Then I confirmed that everything fit. I had also tried to make my own surround for the heater hoses, but decided to just buy the ones that they had on eBay. They came with the blockoff and the bezel and seal. Should be here soon and then I can install the heater box for good.

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I've also been working on a way to adapt stock 68 Camaro ebrake cables to work with my LS1 rear brakes. I came up with this little bracket and I think that it will work out great. I ordered a replacement front eBrake cable so I can test it out. I made it out of aluminum first since it was really easy to bend, then made one out of steel for the final copy.

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Worked on cleaning up and installing the kick panels. I pulled out the cable and lubed it all up so it works just like new. I also did some research on what to use to replace the puddy that was behind the kick panels and found some stuff in the electrical section of the Home Depot. It's made by Gardner Bender called duct seal. It's the same color, consistency and sealed up great.

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After I installed the kick panel, I also threw in the eBrake assembly that I cleaned up a while ago.

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This is another project I've been working on for a while. Most of the connections in the older GM cars use a Packard 56 terminals and I've been searching for a cheaper alternative to the crimpers that are out there now. I searched around eBay and found a cheap crimper that does open barrel terminals and looked like it would work. This is what I started with, but when I crimped the male terminals it would distort, so I had to modify the jaw slightly.

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And here are the crimps after it modified the jaw. It works perfectly now and only cost me $15 bucks.

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There were a few non-Camaro things that have been keeping me busy as well. My truck is really starting to show it's age, but really runs and drives great, so it's tough not to just fix what's wrong with it. About two weeks ago, it was down for a few days because the power steering cooler blew a hole in the line. Then when I went to change the oil a few days ago, the rear diff cover rusted through and was leaking... Luckily both were cheap fixes, but a PITA.

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My father-in-law has been getting really into slot cars recently and has a really nice 1/24 Carrera set in his basement and it's been getting more and more competitive with the family. The brother-in-laws have gotten cars and it's just gotten "worse" since then. Until now, we have all just been running our cars stock, but I decided to take it to the next level with an aftermarket motor. The stock motor is roughly a 13k rpm engine and I've replaced it with an RMS 30K rpm unit.

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I decided to get a new motor because my car was maxed out in stock form. Once I got it installed we kept having to turn down my speed because it was so fast. Before we had our cars turned up to 100% speed, and mine was quite a bit slower. Now with mine at 40% it was way faster than all the other cars. With my car at 20% speed it keeps up with them all and it's much more fun to compete.

I made several purchases recently, with one rather large one to National Parts Depot. Would like to thank NPD for supplying the gift certificates that were in a raffle here on TAC about a year ago. It really helps with my "Penny Pincher" theme.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: jonathonar89 on January 01, 2019, 05:44:51 PM
Seems like a major step up in RPM on that slot car motor...darn! 

That parking brake setup on the LS1 cars seems to be a big hangup for most people doing that conversion.  This is one of the reasons why I went with a Wilwood Kit.  Hope to see you get that worked out!  Keep us posted.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 02, 2019, 07:51:10 AM
I'm hoping to get the front parking brake cable so I can install all of the cables to verify if they work or not.

I also picked up a mystery cam recently that the seller didn't know what the specs were. I picked it up for next to nothing thinking that the specs were probably too much for what I want given that he referred to it as aggressive. After a little searching I found out that it was a Lunati cam and the part number stamped on the cam was at some point revised. I cross referenced Lunati's site and found the specs to be nearly what I was looking for, and to boot it has a lower lift number which means it will work with my Z06 valve springs. Now I'm debating on whether or not I want to go through swapping cams right now...

The cam has a different wear pattern than I've seen before, but nothing catches my finger nail so it should be fine.

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Stamping on Cam.

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I copied this from Lunati's website:

Product Description
Hydraulic Roller Cam.Good high performance cam with lots of mid range torque and top end HP. Fair idle.

Advertised Duration (Int/Exh): 282/287
Duration @ .050 (Int/Exh): 218/221
Gross Valve Lift (Int/Exh): .526/.534
LSA/ICL: 116/112
Valve Lash (Int/Exh): Hyd/Hyd
RPM Range: 2000-5000
Includes: Cam Only

Part Number: 20540503
Previous Part Number: 55003LUN

Ideally I was looking for a cam with a 113 LSA and something more like 228/230 duration. I may just turn around and sell it and hold out for the one that I want.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: TATurbo on January 07, 2019, 12:26:09 AM
Nice job on the Slot Car!  Sounds like a fun way to spend time at family gatherings.  The past couple  holiday's my family's been passing time with little 'jam sessions'.  My brother brought his guitar a couple holidays ago and it's grown since then, now everyone is bringing their instruments or their voices.
What year is your truck?  The underside looks like our '02 Durango.   Lost 2 brake lines and a trans line to rust over the past few months.  The thing still rides and looks like new though. 
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 07, 2019, 07:16:39 AM
Thanks Tom, that high torque motor made all the difference. Before the motor swap, the best time that I could run was a 4.015 second lap. Everyone else was running sub 4 second runs, with my father in law running around a 3.7ish. That was with us all running at 100% speed, but now for all the cars to be competitive I have to turn mine down to 20%, and I ran them last night with a best lap time of 3.721  :cool: His track is a Carrera Digital 1/24 and is super high tech for slot cars. He downloaded a track software app from a place in Germany that interacts with the software that gives a read out to his flat screen and calls out things like new leaders, new high lap times, lap count downs, and when you need to "fuel up". Yes, we just installed the pit lane and you need to actually need to make a "Pit Stop" to digitally refuel your car! We have a blast with it and sometimes get a little crazy when we have too much to drink haha.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 07, 2019, 01:02:31 PM
I got the box a little later than I had hoped, but my package from National Parts Depot arrived with all of my goodies. I love unboxing a large purchase like this. Now that I have these parts, the last really bigger ticket items are the weather seals and seat covers.

Black one-piece carpet

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Gasket kit for emblems, tail lights, and etc.

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Gasket and seal kit for the BBC heater core conversion.

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Pedal covers, marker light bezels and other misc. items.

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New rear package tray.

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New shift boot and retaining ring.

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Lastly, is a new pair of chrome quarter window trim.

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Along with the NPD purchase I also bought some FatMat sound deadner and a new front parking brake cable.

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After I unboxed the parts I couldn't help it, so I grabbed one of the marker light bezels and gasket and put it in the fender. Looks SO much better than the bubbling and pealing marker lights I had.

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I had a little time this weekend and finished up the stock heater box install. It went really smoothly and before I could get it installed for good, I wanted to get some of the FatMat put on to help with sound and heat. This stuff goes on really cleanly and is fun to do. I contours really nicely to all of the panels.

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Then I got a roll of 1/4" adhesive foam and stuck it to the box to seal it up. I think that it will work great to seal up the box from the inside.

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Everything installed just like it should stock. Nice thing about using the stock harness.

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Then once it was installed for good, I popped on the heater trim and seal. Everything fits great, very happy I decided to swap to the BBC heater core. It will look very clean with the two hoses running across the inner fender. I'll probably try and re-drill the lower hole so that it matches up and centers the lower tube better.

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Then I cleaned up and reinstalled the heater controls and bezel. It's really starting to come together and look more complete. Anyone have any tips on how to remove the front of the controls without breaking the tabs off? I tried, but both of the pot metal tabs I tried broke off... I'd like to clean inside and possibly repaint the outer bezel, but I don't want to break it any further.

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All my updates for now. I can't wait to get the rest of the FatMat installed so I can lay out my carpet! That is always a big milestone in a project.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 23, 2019, 10:57:53 AM
I'm getting very anxious for spring to get this car out and stretching it's legs. Just a few other finishing details and it'll be ready. A few weeks ago my father-in-law stopped over and helped me adjust my hood. I have been struggling with it because it just wouldn't quite fit right. I came to the conclusion that the core support wasn't square and it needed to be moved only about a 1/8". We ended up getting it moved over and bam, it fits so much better! All the gaps are spot on and right like they were before paint. What a relief.

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Other than adjusting the hood, I haven't been doing much on the Camaro. I've been distracted because I was in the process of getting my new truck! Most people that I tell about my truck they say, "Why did you get an older truck?", or "Aren't they worse on gas?" Well what I wanted was something different than what I currently had, which was a 03' Silverado Extended Cab, but I wanted something as reliable and easy to work on. After looking around at my options I came across truck I didn't even know existed, which was the 90's Silverado/Sierra's with a Crew Cab and a Short Box. They weren't very common at all even back then. Well that was it, and I had my sights set on finding one. But this time around I wanted a truck that wasn't from the Rust Belt. Then when I got it home I wanted to swap in an LS motor behind a 4L80e and make a nearly bulletproof rust free truck that I can keep for a long time. Well after about a year of looking I finally found a clean southern truck in the combination that I wanted! And to boot it was loaded with leather, many Denali upgrades, upgraded radio with Nav, and already had an LS motor swapped in! Not only was it an LS motor, it is a low mileage 60k mile LQ9 from a VortecMax truck!

I am so happy to have found the truck I'd been searching for and not only that it was exactly how I would have built the truck. I'm super impressed with how cleanly this truck was build too! It looks bone stock under the hood!

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And check out how clean it is on the underside!

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Here we are on the NY boarder on the way home. I thought this was a pretty cool shot. He ended up throwing in a bunch of extra parts, that I grabbed and will resell here in NY. Rust free box, Full Floater rear axle, front axle, wheels and tires, and the front spindles from an 02 2500HD.

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Here it is safely at home and right before we got about 14" of snow the day we got back!

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I still need to dig further into how exactly he did the swap, but for those wondering about the mounts it uses ICT set back plates. He said that everything just bolted right up to the stock trans and used the stock LQ9 flywheel. Just fit together like it was meant to. He had a custom tune done by someone at LT1swap.com, and it shows up as a 2002 Silverado 2500HD when I plugged in HP Tuners. He used the stock manifolds with about 12" of the stock Y-pipe off each manifold and blended it with the stock exhaust. Very professional looking.

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So the first impressions for the truck are that it rides just slightly rougher than my 03 1500 which is welcome news as I was expecting much worse. The truck is very comfortable to drive and it really does get out of it's own way with the LQ9. Just have to keep my foot out of it to get decent mileage. Things that I don't like are the brakes, I'll get more on that later, but they need an improvement. Second was the loud exhaust. It has some kind of loud flowmaster muffler, that I'm going to swap out for a much quieter muffler. It will be my DD, so I can't live with that drone.

The brakes are currently stock with 11" single piston front brakes and the larger rear drums. The pedal is very stiff and does take a lot of effort to bring it to a stop. From what I understand that is normal with the GMT400 88-98 trucks, but something I want to change. The guy also included some GMT800 01-07 2500HD spindles (knuckles) with the truck which after reaming the ball joints out are a bolt on for my truck. That will update the truck in several ways, one is bigger 12" or 13" dual piston brakes, but two is that it will make servicing much easier. The GMT800 trucks have a bolt on hub/bearing assembly where as the 400 trucks have a spindle with hub/disk setup. So that is going to be on my list for the spring. I'm also working on a way to swap the rear to disk brakes.

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There is also new balljoints upper and lower, tie rods, sway bar bushings, and a bunch of other new parts to completely rebuild the front end. He bought one brand new hub and the other hub is in good shape with no play. So really just need rotors, calipers, pads and hoses. Should be a fairly easy swap and will give a much needed increase in braking performance.

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I'm stoked to have this truck and I can't wait to get some miles on it and do a few upgrades along the way.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on January 23, 2019, 01:33:13 PM
Wow! I really like the truck. A cowl hood wouldn't hurt though.
What site did you use to find it?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on January 24, 2019, 08:54:34 AM
Nice truck Ryan, my brother in law bought one new just like that only it was a really dark green. It must be nice to be young and full of energy. You crack me up with all of the changes you are planning already. I would be happy with just being able to clean the inside with a quick wipedown! LOL. I would imagine a rust free bed in your part of the country is about worth its weight in gold.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on January 24, 2019, 11:54:55 AM
Form, I do like the way that these trucks look with a cowl hood. Maybe an upgrade for the future. I ended up finding it from a site called GMT400.com. They specialize in the 88-98 GMT400 trucks. It wasn't even for sale, I messaged the guy a few times and then made him an offer and he accepted. I was literally searching the whole country and couldn't find one that met all my needs. Then I found this guy and he was only in Charlotte, NC ~11 hours from me. Not bad considering one I wanted was in Oregon which was something like ~2,200 miles away.

Kerry, if it makes me sound less crazy I'll probably wait until I need rotors and pads for the front. I'd be buying the parts anyway so why not upgrade at the same time. He already bought the hubs and knuckles for the brake swap which are the expensive parts. I'd be just buying new calipers, pads and rotors. And yes, a rust free bed in NY is not easy to come by. I'm hoping that someone will pick it up soon so I don't have to store it. It'll help offset the truck purchase too.  :cool:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on March 29, 2019, 09:44:13 AM
Well after a long hiatus from the car, I'm almost ready to start back on it to get it ready for the spring cruising season that is rapidly approaching. As I mentioned earlier in my thread since we are expecting another kiddo, which meant we needed to find another room to put my older son since the younger one will take his room. That meant that we needed to add a wall in the upstairs of our house. The 2nd floor of our Cape Cod is finished, but it was basically a 2nd living room with no walls. The cheapest option was to build a wall and finish an area for a new bedroom.

Since I live and breath LS motors, I had to find a way to infuse them into this project. You may ask yourself, "Ryan, who in their right mind is going to put an LS motor in the room?" My reply isn't where, but how. I have a contractor buddy who was looking for a motor for his Jeep YJ project and I have the old 5.3 that came out of my Camaro when I first built it, and we ended up wheeling and dealing for the motor. He framed a wall, hung the drywall, and pre-wired it for me and he knocked off $500 bucks from the bill for the motor. Win! :cool:

I'll just post a few pictures of my progression. Keep in mind I've never done any drywall mudding in my life. Just Youtube and asking questions of others.

Day One 1/31/19

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Here's where I pick up over the next several months.

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Few weeks later and lots of sanding...

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I had to test prime an area to see if I was even in the ballpark of being straight. Turns out I did a decent job of tricking the eye as it came out looking straight!

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All primed up!

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Paint and a door. Looking like a room now.

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I'll post the bad with the good. I originally thought I would have a door that opened to the right, but once the wall was up it made much more sense to open to the left. Well that makes the light switch placement tricky... To avoid having to keep this box there to be within code, I opted to pull new wire and re-route the box to the correct side of the door. Here's my creative solution.

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The other part I didn't like was the original owner wrapped these structural posts in an almost nautical rope as the trim. In theory good idea, but in practice didn't go with the theme of our house which isn't nautical. Here's the flooring fitment before:

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After I hand routed the post for a seamless fit. I was very happy with this, although it was very tedious with a hack saw and flat head screwdriver. I didn't have the "right" tools, but made due. Now, it looks like the post is just floating on top of the flooring. :cool:

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Finally finished the flooring. I went back and forth on this one becuase come to find out the laminate that is up in this room was discontinued in 2008, so after searching the country on CL, calling flooring wholesalers, calling reclaimed flooring distributors, eBay, and etc. I settled that I would have to just get something close and call it a day. Well come to find out our Shaw flooring was an almost dead ringer for the color and "VersaLock" for the Lowe's house brand Project Source! I was over the moon because not only did the color match almost perfectly, they even clicked right together!! Lucked out there big time.

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I didn't get many pictures inside of his room as I was going because they were fairly redundant, but here is a few after primer and basically in chronological order. While I had everything out, my wife also decided that we should paint some of the pine the khaki trim color and as much as I disagreed, it really does look good. Just a PITA to scuff sand, prime, mask then paint.

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Finally made it to the finish-line this week. I'm very happy with the results for never really doing anything of this magnitude myself before.

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Sorry the picture wasn't straight. Took it over my head with my phone in the corner. My son was thrilled and was running around in his new room! We bought him some bunk beds so that if/when he has a friend over they have a place to sleep too. They come apart and will make two twin beds, so that will be an easy thing to do when that time comes.

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I still need to go back and fill in the nail holes on the trim, put on the threshold and hang a new light fixture, but then I'm calling it done! As for the car updates, I've been collecting some parts since the end of January so I'll hopefully have something to update once I clean all of the sawdust out of my garage.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 76455sd on March 29, 2019, 12:15:39 PM
Given your attention to detail with the car, I had no doubts that this carpentry project would come out very nice as well.  Looks great.  How high is that ceiling?
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on March 29, 2019, 01:39:36 PM
Wow! That is awesome work. What a beautiful house!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on March 29, 2019, 01:50:35 PM
Ryan, As a contractor I give my seal of approval, LOL. You did a great job. Drywall is the same doing body work, only with drywall you work hard to keep things straight, and with cars you work hard to keep things curved!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 737driver on March 30, 2019, 10:34:28 AM
Great job! Outstanding work!
Jim
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 01, 2019, 01:43:22 PM
Thanks for all of the compliments guys! I didn't think there would be much interest in my construction, but wanted to give an excuse for why there haven't been any car updates.  :cool:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: TATurbo on April 06, 2019, 09:46:55 PM
Nice work Ryan.  That's a lot of drywall to finish...One of my least favorite things!
Looks great, I hope the little ones(and the rest of the family) enjoy it.
Now...back to the important stuff...;-)
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: jonathonar89 on April 07, 2019, 01:35:55 PM
House work looks good man.  All necessary to get back on track with the car.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 08, 2019, 07:41:34 AM
It's been a long time since I've been able to have a solid Penny Pincher update, so it feels great to have a decent update again. I'm finally done with the upstairs room project, and also had to tie up some other loose ends. I've been taking a few hours after work for the last week to try and knock out some of the springtime raking, trimming, and maintenance outside of the house so I'm nearly done with that until the grass starts growing.

Next big item was helping my dad get his 1971 Chevelle going again. Over the last 2.5 years he's done some major modifications to his car, such as a 496 stroker (Dart block, aluminum heads, roller cam, and etc) and TKO 600 swap (dual friction clutch, hydraulic TOB, and etc), but he's never had it running quite right. As I was cruising the classifieds here on TAC (Thanks jonathonar89)I saw a posting for a Holley Terminator Harness and it got my wheels turning that maybe I'd mention it to him since I've been telling him to go with an EFI kit since he built the motor. Well after some back and forth we ended up buying his whole kit, which included the whole Terminator kit and an adjustable fuel reg, and some other upgrades. He ended up going with the notched Tanks Inc, tank, upgraded to Walbro 255, Teflon fuel lines and all AN fittings. He's been installing the hardware over the last few weeks and I came over Saturday afternoon to do the wiring install. We temporarily installed the the harness and ECU to confirm that it was all fully functional before he did a final installation just to be safe.

After a few troubleshooting issues which ended up being my fault, we finally turned the key and got it running! One of the issues that I figured out, but I'm not quite understanding is that the fuel pressure to the rails. When we got it up and running, we found that the fuel pressure was at 58 psi so I lowered it to the recommended 43 psi per the instructions. Well when we finally got it running the car didn't want to idle below about 1300 rpms. I tried adjusting just about every parameter in the system from timing to fuel to IAC. When the idle would get to about 1100 the fueling would fall on it's face and the AFR would shoot to 25, ramp to 36 and the it would stall. above 1300 it would level right off and AFR would be right near the target command. What ended up fixing out idling problem was when I bumped the FPR back to 58 psi, and then it was golden. AFR was where we commanded it, idle was right at target and overall ran great! He was discouraged at first since it was running much worse than it did before we took the carb off. But after that FPR change, he was stoked. He drove the wheels off of it yesterday even though the ECU was ziptied to the cowl, no hood and none of that mattered.

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I drove it and it really is a whole other animal. I was giving it about 3/4 to 7/8 throttle and right before I was about to shift from 2 to 3 it broke the wheels loose around 50! I wasn't expecting that and my dad asked me what that was because he thought we broke something. I looked at him and said, "That was horsepower!" haha. He's thrilled that it's finally running the way that he was expecting when he build the motor 2 years ago. I'm happy because he's going to be driving it now! He'e going to buy a small cap HEI distributor this week so that the ECU will control the timing. I think that will allow the engine to run that much better. He's going to button up the wiring and distributor install over the next few weeks and if everything goes right, my car will be finishing up at that time as well.

His update is probably more exciting than mine, but here goes. I'll start off with some parts updates that I've been collecting for the last few months. I ended up taking advantage of the
Summit bucks I had and bought weatherstripping for the doors, trunk and quarter windows. Unfortunately the quarter window seals are back-ordered and won't arrive until sometime in May. I still have my old one's but they have seen better days.

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Brake clevis parts for the LS1 rear e-brake levers. They will need modifications to work right, but are a better start than the brackets I made.

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Much needed matched door lock kit. I got the seals from the paint seal kit I bought earlier so I'm good there too.

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When I was at the pick and pull earlier this year a roached out 1971 Firebird donated this dimmer switch. I looked that thing all over and couldn't find one good part on it. Even the '71 only fender vents were broken.

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I'm not sure if I'll use it on this project or another, but the guy that bought my old 2003 Silverado was in the process of parting out a 2002 Escalade and he gave me a bunch of parts that he wasn't going to use. I ended up grabbing a bunch of parts, but he knew that the harness was worth money. I paid him $100 bucks and got the complete harness, throttle body, ECU, Pedal, TAC module, and the ECU bracket. Not sure if I want to mess with DBW, but if I do I have the parts now.

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I needed to finish up installing the clutch boot install before I could continue on with the FatMat installation. I cut some panels out of .050 aluminum plates and found a nice little clutch boot from a... gulp... 67 Mustang. It had a nice small diameter hole and would fit nicely around the two piece bracket I made.

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It still needs a little trimming, but fits great. I'll add some paint and adhesive seals to the back side and it will be all done.

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Then I installed a few sections of the FatMat and had to call it quiets for the day. The rest of the FatMat should go quick and then I an put my carpet down. I've been looking forward to that for a while now. Felt good to work on the car again.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on April 08, 2019, 01:00:13 PM
Tells us about big block manual Chevelle, shows us no pictures.  Wow, I see how it is! :lol:

As far as DBW goes I'd pass, even if you get it to respond more like a throttle cabled pedal it'll never feel like one.  I just can't get used to them and how they feel, sadly I think I've played on video game wheel and pedal controllers where the throttle felt better than what was actually in the cars being driven...  Though if you can get past that I'm sure they have their advantages performance wise, since you don't have to rely on feel(of the motor) to get the optimum throttle opening for acceleration but the trade off there is not having the pedal feel for rev matching.  Then again I guess with these newer cars that have automatic rev matching that'd cease to be a problem...
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 10, 2019, 05:46:49 AM
Box, glad to see you're back! I got a pretty good deal on the whole DBW swap since I got everything for what people usually pay for just the computer. Not sure if I'll run it or not, but who knows what the future will bring. I like the idea of swapping over to this ECU and possibly doing the FlexFuel swap as well and the harness can be wired up to drive the 90mm LS2 throttlebody as well. I like having options haha.

I know, I'll have to snap some pictures. I can tell you this much, we have actually never had our cars up and running at the same time, so we're going to be driving the wheels off of them. I think were also going to have to see who's car really is faster too.  8) There's a local 1/8 mile drag strip about 20 mins from us that has a test and tune on Friday nights, so I think we're going to have to hit that up.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 10, 2019, 07:17:30 AM
I got out and installed the rest of the FatMat, so that I could finally see what my carpet looks like. Very pleased with how easy the FatMat is to install and I'm sure that it's going to help with the noise levels.

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And just add some carpet! I opted for the one piece design rather than the stock 2 piece as I think it's a little cleaner looking.

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One other final touch I finally received was a filter for my CAI. The one that came with the truck was huge and wouldn't fit into the space I needed. This one fits perfectly. I just need to make a little bracket to hold up the tubing and it'll be all set.

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Getting closer, can't wait.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: jonathonar89 on April 10, 2019, 12:25:32 PM
1 step at a time!  Good stuff man!

Glad to hear the Terminator kit helped out your dad.  Always enjoy hearing good news and updates.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on April 10, 2019, 03:34:04 PM
Options are good.  Should be fun seeing whose car is faster, if anything it'll probably come down to more of a driver's race.

So you're trying to say instead of just using a cable tie around the intake tube and the brace between the fender and core support you're going to fabricate a bracket?  Gah, make things difficult. :lol:

OOOH, you should fabricate a heat shield/box for the filter.  Then you can support it and keep hot air away from it all in one.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 11, 2019, 05:58:52 AM
Thanks Jonathan.

Box, you kinda read my mind. The intake tube came from a cheap eBay CAI meant for a 99-06 Silverado and it did come with a heat shield. I was wondering how difficult it would be to modify it to work in my car. I'm going to try and make it work, but it may not be right away. Heck, I want to drive this thing!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on April 11, 2019, 06:44:49 AM
Same here. I think I'm going to try to find some aluminum and fab up and air box. The other thought was to make one out of fiberglass.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 11, 2019, 07:00:57 AM
I don't have many pictures of his car, but this is the few pictures that he's sent me so far. Here's the kit before we installed.

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He opted for a Tanks, Inc. fuel tank that had notched corners and also upgraded to the Walbro 255 pump.

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The beast, 496 Stroker BBC.

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His car has this fantastic Patina on it, but there is no rust on the car. He keeps saying that he wants to paint it, but I keep telling him not to touch it. Patina is in right now and there are guys that would kill for that on their car. I'll try and get some pictures of the car next time I'm over at my parent's house.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on April 11, 2019, 02:07:59 PM
I'm too inclined to say keep the paint as is if there's no cancerous rust, though surface rust would be ok.  For one you're taking away time that can be spent finally driving it, and two it kinda keeps it a sleeper with the old paint.  As much as a '71 Chevelle with a big block can be anyway.  Plus that's money that could be spent on performance parts, that or some Vintage Air since I don't think many Chevelles came with A/C.  A/C is life.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on April 29, 2019, 06:53:36 AM
I've been able to carve a few minutes over the last few weeks to get things done, but now have enough to make a good post. One of the projects on my list was to drop the tank and get my fuel level sender fixed. I pulled the tank and determined that the "new" sender that I bought at a swap meet a few years ago had burned out, which now makes sense why I couldn't get a reading from it. So what I decided to do was use the stock LS3 sender that came on my fuel pump assembly. I had to make a new float and lever in order to make it read correctly. That meant bending a rod to accommodate both low and high readings which was actually a lot harder than it sounds. I messed with it for several hours before I could get it where I was happy.

Pulled the tank and fuel pump assembly ready to swap in the old sender.

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Here is what the stock float and lever looked like.

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I found a coat hanger that was the right diameter and I bent my own new lever and used the float from the burnt out switch.

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I then added the wires back into the pigtail since I was using the stock sender again.

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The sending unit swap is all done now, but one of the challenges that I came across is that the sending unit from the LS3 is 258/E and 42/F but the closest preset for my Dakota Digital gauges is 240-33 so it will just have to work for now. When I have some time I'll work through the custom setting to calibrate the gauge, but it requires the car to be empty and then fill in 1/3 tank increments taking calibrations at each. But for now it works, but it'll just be off.

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I cleaned up and painted the bumper brackets a while ago, so that I can finally install my rear bumper. I ended up cleaning all of the old over spray off of my bumper with some lacquer thinner and steel wool. It's certainly not perfect, but the bumper came out really good considering it's a 50 year old piece. I also thew on the marker lights with new bezels.

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I've also been working on getting the last of my wiring buttoned up. I needed to finish up the fuse panel for the few relays I needed to add. I need a relay for both my fan and horn. I'm using a Bussman unit with the micro fuse and relays to take up the least amount of real estate. I'm pretty happy with how neat and clean they look. I'll have room for future projects as well. It will sit down low on the driver's side fender well next to the marker light.

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Next up is some parts updates. I have been on the search for a new passenger side A pillar trim as the one I have has seen better days. I found a guy who sold me a complete front window set brand new in the box for a 1/3 of the price of new! Win.

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This past weekend was my annual trip to the Sping Carlisle car show and swap meet with my dad. We saw a lot of cool stuff and I scored a few good used parts and picked up some new parts as well.

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Inch/lb. torque wrench.

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Mesh split wire loom.

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I thew some on quick to see what it looked like and I can't wait to install the rest.

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Probably one of the coolest parts of the trip was when I stopped by the Miller Welding tent. They had a demonstration of the new Miller 220 welder, and they had demos set up so I asked the guy if I could try. He was very accommodating and basically gave me a 101 course on Tig welding. He let me run a bead of both steel and aluminum. It's way different than MIG welding, but was a lot of fun. He said that I did really well for the first time and I only dipped the tip one time. Here's my attempt at aluminum, I didn't think it was too bad for the first try.

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Thought this was a pretty cool car since my car is called the "Penny Pincher Camaro". This was called the Penny Corvette and you'll see why if you look closely.

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Also saw this wicked diesel truck.

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I'm hoping to button up this car very soon and put some real road miles on it.

Thanks,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on April 29, 2019, 07:04:14 AM
Glad you were able to score some parts. Sorry our paths did not connect, it would've been nice to finally meet you. Maybe next year. I saw that vette and the first thing I thought of was you (project penny pincher!) lol. They had it loaded up on a truck though, so I didn't get to look too close. I wonder how much weight was added to that car.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on April 29, 2019, 07:55:32 AM
What a way to ruin a vette....

The bumper looks great! Crazy all the work that went into fixing the sending unit and no visual improvement to the car but it had to be done.

Nice job on your first attempt at TIG welding aluminum.  It has to be my favorite metel to TIG weld. Did you bring home a TIG welder? LOL.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on April 29, 2019, 01:46:07 PM
Bumper looks good to me from the pictures, definitely nice enough for something you're going to drive anyway.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 03, 2019, 07:48:10 AM
I've been plugging away at the finishing up the wiring in the engine bay. I bought a ratcheting crimper on eBay a while back and it does a great job on the Metri-Pack 280 terminals that the Bussman box takes. Something very satisfying about wiring and I really like using the correct terminals and connectors.

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Tucked away nicely in the fender well.

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Next up was building a mount for for the CAI. I bought a cheap kit on eBay a while back for a 99-06 Silverado basically for the intake tube and it fits really nicely in the engine bay. I used the tab that was welded on it and built a simple L bracket that attaches to my fan shroud with some button head bolts. The aluminum was thick enough that I tapped it for a 5/16 - 18 thread so I could use the stock bolts I've used in the whole engine bay.

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Turned out great and was pretty simple to do.

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I also picked up a horn from my local Pick a Part from a 1975 Malibu Wagon. I had to re-bend the tab on it, but otherwise fit just like stock. I need to clean it up and spray a little paint on it so it's not such an eye sore.

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I'm hoping to get some more done this weekend and get it inspected sometime next week. The only things that need to be finished before the inspection are re-installing the seats, seat belts, hooking up the e-brake and fixing some tail light wiring issues.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 76455sd on May 03, 2019, 09:44:27 AM
Getting close and looking very nice.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on May 03, 2019, 01:41:13 PM
I can see you're a distinguished man of wealth and taste with such fine wiring.  Nothing drives me more insane than shoddy wiring jobs, makes me go insane.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 07, 2019, 06:18:36 AM
Got the car inspected last night, so I'm fully legal and ready to rack up some healthy miles. :cool: I've been trying to be good about getting my rear end broke in, as the rear gears call for 4-5 20 minute drives to around 45 mph to allow the gears to properly mesh. I was able to do the last one yesterday after I filled up the gas tank.

As with any car that has been completely torn down and built back up, there are a bunch of things that need to be ironed out and I'll make a short list for my records. First is the front end alignment. I am not well versed in how too much of one measurement feels, but it feels to me like the car has too much camber or toe in. The car seems to want to dart back and forth, but the steering box is nice and tight.

Second is the car seems to surge under light acceleration. That is definitely a tuning issue and I think has something to do with my MAF and VE tables. I used a stock Z06 calibration for both and I think because of the headers and CAI, it is throwing them all off. I also seem to have a knock sensor code P327, but I think that may just be a faulty sensor.

Along the same vein as the surging, there is a very significant amount of fumes from the car. I think its a combination of the tune, no trunk seal, and I haven't seam sealed the wheel wells yet. I'm going to try and do the seam sealing and trunk seal before the weekend and see if that helps. If not I'm going to mess around with the tune more and see what the error logs bring up. I want to drive this thing to work and whenever I can and I certainly don't need to smell like a tail pipe whenever I drive it.

Lastly, I think that the good used rear rotors that I have aren't so good. I think they are both warped pretty badly as it makes a scraping sound while I'm driving. That needs to be taken care of ASAP as it is incredibly annoying. I'm going to order a set today drilled to match my fronts.

Overall, the car drives really well. The suspension is nice and tight front and rear. The car just flat out runs and it's hard to keep out of the throttle. It sounds really good and is so much fun to drive the 6 speed! Really without trying it will chirp the tires all the way through 3rd. I have yet to start the car from a stop without spinning the tires. The LS7 clutch is very grabby, and hopefully it will lessen up the more that I drive the car. I'm hoping to work the bugs out soon and get some cool cruising pictures to post up.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on May 07, 2019, 01:32:15 PM
Woooo more or less done!  Just ironing out bugs at the moment.  As far as being darty could be a combination of camber and toe, generally more negative camber(to an extent) increases your grip(more so through turns) where as toe-in increases responsiveness(to and extent) and toe-out increases stability.  Generally in something with a solid axle you'll want about -.5º to -1º of negative camber up front, and with most RWD cars you'll want a twinge of toe in around 1/32" to 1/16" so then during acceleration the front wheels splay out neutral.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 08, 2019, 07:03:15 AM
Thanks for the tips! I'm going to be attempting the alignment myself to try and see how close I can get it. I'm not going to put too much time into it, but I'll give it a shot.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: LeighP on May 08, 2019, 11:59:00 AM
Summit sell a home alignment tool. I bought one to do the 71 build and the shop commented on how close I got it at home.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on May 08, 2019, 02:30:33 PM
Thanks for the tips! I'm going to be attempting the alignment myself to try and see how close I can get it. I'm not going to put too much time into it, but I'll give it a shot.
Like Leigh said some of the home kits are pretty good, and at the least it'll get the car safe until you can make it to a shop with an advanced laser alignment machine and that's what really matters.  They're good to have if you're always modifying/adjusting the suspension, or just for when you need to replace a worn part.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 09, 2019, 06:16:24 AM
I got a little time in the garage last night. I swapped over the 1968 RS tail light bezels I picked up at Carlisle. Definitely like the 1968 tail lights on there better than the 67's. The 67 RS remind me of the Eleanor Mustang, not good - not bad but the 68 is more unique.

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Once that was done, I decided to mess around with my attempt at a DIY alignment. I read a few articles, and had some nice straight 30" pieces of angle aluminum and used those to make measurements for toe in/out. My initial measurements were toe out ~1/8". I then took measurements with aluminum placed it on both wheels vertically and used the Tremec Angle finder app I had on my phone to see what the camber was for each wheel. I got -1.2* on the passenger side and 0.1* on the driver's side. That makes sense now why the steering was so off. I added about 1/4" of shims on each stud on the driver's side and was able to match the -1.2* on the passenger side. Sweet! Now I brought the toe in to about 3/16* and we will see how that does. I'm assuming it will pull to one side or the other so I'll need to make adjustments and can get it closer to that 1/16 measurement.

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After I mow the grass tonight, I'm going to run it up and down the road to see what it does. Hopefully that fixes the strange steering feel and I can move on to other things. I also downloaded some more stock tunes to compare with mine. I made some changes to my tune and I'm going to flash that to the car and see if that helps with the P327 code. I noticed there were some knock enable settings that were different in my tune vs. the stock ones. Keeping my fingers crossed that fixes it. If not I may have a bad sensor which means the intake is coming off. The wires aren't pinched, so basically that's the only other thing it could be.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: MNBob on May 09, 2019, 09:46:18 AM
Being able to do an approximate alignment at home is valuable.  I have always measured the tread about 4 inches up front and back for toe in.  I never thought of using angle brackets.

I purchased an align-o-matic years ago for this purpose.  It checks toe in and camber; I don't know how accurate it is.

I looked in the Play Store on my Samsung phone and found a Tremec Toolbox app.  Is that what you are using?

You car looks great and it is finally back to driving.  I bet you are really excited about that.  Working out the bugs is just another step and you will be driving it regularly.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 09, 2019, 11:29:46 AM
Yes, that is the one, Tremec Toolbox. It's got some other handy tools too.

Yes, I'm getting very anxious and driving my wife nuts. Now that it's on the road, I don't think she understands that there are a bunch of bugs that have to be worked out. It's stressing me out a little because I just want to drive it, but I certainly want to be safe for myself and everyone else on the road.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on May 09, 2019, 12:42:26 PM
I like the '68 more too, the bezel helps break up an otherwise plain red rectangle.  I like the '69 most, but that's an entirely different tail panel I think.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 10, 2019, 09:01:33 AM
I had to take some more detailed pictures for my car insurance, and thought I'd share some of the more finished pictures of my car and the engine bay.

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The engine bay is nearly complete. Only thing left is to re-loom using the mesh loom I picked up at Spring Carlisle.

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Here's the current state of the interior. Getting close.

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I was comparing my tune to some other stock 01 Z06 tunes and noticed that mine was a little off, so I found another one and copied the VE and timing tables to see if that helped any. I was pleasantly surprised that the P327 code didn't come back last night when I was cruising around. Hopefully it stays off and I can check that off my list.

When I was out I was also curious how my DIY alignment worked, and I am happy to report that it just drives straight down the road now! I'm still not 100% happy though as there is a decent sized dead spot going straight down the road. From what I understand though this can be cured by adjusting the worm gear on the top of the gear box and that should tighten things up.

I need to get my speedometer calibrated so that I can actually know how fast I'm going, haha.

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: kentucky yeti on May 10, 2019, 09:36:00 AM
So nice!  You always do awesomely inspiring work!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on May 10, 2019, 09:41:45 AM
Looks great! Have you given the grandfather in law a ride yet?  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 10, 2019, 10:57:02 AM
Looks great! Have you given the grandfather in law a ride yet?  :grin: :grin:

I haven't, but he's top on the list of people to give a ride. I need to get a few seats in it soon before I give any rides. So far the only one who has had a ride is my son, who was just on my lap up and down the driveway.  :lol: I asked him how it was after we were up and down the driveway and his exact words were short and sweet, "Pretty good" and gave me the thumbs up.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on May 10, 2019, 01:44:40 PM
For what it's worth those GPS speedometer apps for smartphones work fairly well, sure they're a bit slow to respond in acceleration but they'll give you your cruising speed which is what really matters.  That or you can do math and figure out your mph depending on gear selected and engine rpm, either way speedometer is a luxury. :P
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: 737driver on May 10, 2019, 10:40:50 PM
Wow! All I can say is that is very inspiring work. I love the way you make it all look like it is supposed to be there, meaning it looks better than a factory design. Great progress!
Jim
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on May 13, 2019, 07:43:59 AM
I use the speedo app on my phone in my car and it works great, but it would be nice to have a working speedometer! Curious, what kind of insurance do you have? I have grundy with my 77 and am pretty sure the car has to be very close to stock. I am wondering what you have found regarding the swapped motor. I am still on the fence on which way to go with my TATA motor wise. On one hand I have the matching drive train, but after Toms drive to Tenn. I think I would like the idea of taking a nice weekend trip in a classic car with minimal worries.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 13, 2019, 08:16:57 AM
I didn't get much time this weekend to work on the car as we had the first sunny day in what feels like weeks so the yard-work took priority. But what I did find out, I thought would be helpful to others that may be in a similar situation. When I first built my engine, I added an LS6 valley cover to clean up the PCV and because it was supposed to work better. But when I started running the car I noticed that there was a very high amount of vacuum in the crankcase. So much that I had a really difficult time pulling off the oil fill cap when the motor was running.

What I didn't realize is that there are two different types of the valley covers; one that has a PCV built in and one that doesn't have one. Mine was the lucky one that didn't have the PCV, so basically my connection from the valley cover to the manifold meant it was pulling full vacuum from the crankcase at idle. I found out that there is a stock hose that came on the 01-03 Z06 Vettes that has an external replaceable PCV which is just what I need, however it is $108 bucks the cheapest I could find it! That's more than just getting a new valley cover with the built-in PCV. Here's what I came up with:

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Difficult to see, but I took a Dorman PCV rubber hose that I found at AutoZone that had the same diameter fitting as the LS6 valley cover and would allow me to put a stock LS PCV valve that typically sits in the valve cover. I tested it and it worked perfectly, no more vacuum in the Crank. I can get the part numbers shortly and will update this post. I think eventually I'll buy the 04+ valley cover with the PCV, but for now this solves my issue. I think this was what was giving me a slight surging condition under light throttle, because when I would give more throttle it would go away. Then when I was leaving AZ, I noticed there was a R32? Skyline. I'm sure many people will agree with me, but I've always loved the Skylines especially the R34 generation. Something so cool to me about being RHD.

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Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 13, 2019, 08:26:16 AM
I use the speedo app on my phone in my car and it works great, but it would be nice to have a working speedometer! Curious, what kind of insurance do you have? I have grundy with my 77 and am pretty sure the car has to be very close to stock. I am wondering what you have found regarding the swapped motor. I am still on the fence on which way to go with my TATA motor wise. On one hand I have the matching drive train, but after Toms drive to Tenn. I think I would like the idea of taking a nice weekend trip in a classic car with minimal worries.

Hey Roadking/Box, I should have clarified, but I do have the Dakota Digital VHX gauges so all I have to do is start the calibration, drive a measured mile, and end calibration and the speedo is calibrated. Just haven't taken the time to do that.. yet.

Kerry, I have Condon and Skelly insurance. They have been great to me and at the time when I had my 1976 T/A they were the only company that would sell me collector car insurance being under 25 YO. I've shopped around at other places and they consistently are significantly cheaper than anyone else. I just bumped up my policy to $40k agreed value, and I'm paying $302 per year. There are minimal restrictions and it covers everything and they are fully aware of all of my modifications. I'd check them out if I were you to at least get a quote.

And if you are on the fence about an LS swap, I'd ask this question. Do you feel comfortable spending at least $5-7K to get the car running/driving? If you are comfortable, there really aren't any drawbacks. You definitely have the skills and ability to perform an LS swap especially since Holley continues to make the swaps easier and easier. 
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on May 13, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
Oooh, nice sighting on the R32.  The original Godzila.  I'm keen to the R33 myself, the R34 is too aggressive looking for me.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 15, 2019, 09:40:31 AM
I had a few hours in the garage over the last several days and have some more progress to post. The interior is definitely getting closer to being buttoned up. I installed the sill plates and trimmed up the carpet to that it is much more presentable. I also installed the pedal covers and pads I bought a while ago from National Parts Depot.

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One of the biggest motivators was of all things my Mom to get the passenger seat installed. Every year for Mother's Day we go out to get some crab legs or seafood of some kind with dinner on me. It's great to spend time with her and share our love for seafood. In the year's past, I've had a cool car to drive either mine or my Dad's, but this year she almost challenged me by saying, "It would be nice to take your car this year." So, that's exactly what we're going to do! I told her we had to wait until there was a good weather day and we're going to run up after we are done with work. So here it is!

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I tossed the rear seats in last night to see what they looked like and how they fit. Overall much better than I had expected considering they are the original seats from 1968, but I need to pull them back out to clean them the best that I can. I'm going to dye the dash, door and rear panels black so with the white it won't look too bad I think.

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I also installed the rear window trim. I polished it all up before I installed it and it turned out really nice. I'm not sure if it's original to the car, or just really good condition originals but I'm very pleased with how it looks. I also threw on my sticker. I borrowed the slogan from American Powertrain and had these made. I made one for me with the 6 speed pattern and one for my dad with the 5 speed pattern.

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Last is a piece of material I needed for the project that I'm going to finish up for my low mount A/C unit. I needed to get something that would space down my sway bar 1/2" and found this piece of aluminum that would do the trick. I just need to make some templates and cut them to fit my car. I'm picking up a 1 1/8" swaybar from a buddy Don this weekend who upgraded his car and gave me a great price on his left overs. I'll definitely take the hand-me-down parts.

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I also picked up some Prothane sway bar end links so I'll hopefully install those soon along with the sway bar upgrade. I'm placing an order today for some parts that will hopefully be the last needed to button up the interior (for now) and can just focus on driving the car rather than just working on it.

Thanks,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on May 15, 2019, 11:37:05 AM
Wow! That trim did clean up really well! They must be made of better material as the ones from my 67 are in pretty good shape too and your car was in better shape than my 67 when you started.

Maybe you can ask your wife for some seat covers for your birthday!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on May 15, 2019, 12:09:14 PM
I like my version of saving the stick, #TheStickMakesItBetter :lol:

Anyhow, should be able to clean up or dye the seats as they otherwise still look to be in good shape.  That or if it were me I'd seriously consider replacing the front seats with something more sporting to hold you in.  Maybe some seats from a fourth gen recovered to match the rear, that or maybe some out of a Corvette or GTO.  The options are endless really.  The fourth gen Camaro seats recovered to match the rear would probably blend in the best while still giving some support, though I think the fourth gen Firebird seats are a lot nicer and I suppose you could recover those to get rid of the headrest and then they'd probably blend in even better.  Headrests are nice though in the event you need them.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 17, 2019, 09:55:08 AM
Box, I'm at the point now where I want to just spend my money on gas rather than parts. For now I'm keeping the original seats and I plan to dye the door, dash and side panels black to match the rest of the interior. It's going to look really good actually with the white seats.

I worked a little more over the last few nights and getting the car more and more complete. First was getting the front window trim installed. Really changes the whole look of the front end.

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Then last night my son really wanted to go for a ride in the car, but being that he's only 3 3/4 years old, he can't just ride in the passenger seat. So I needed to put his car seat into my car, but didn't want to put it in there with the seats being so dirty. So he helped me spray down the seats with some purple power, scub them down and hose them off. Once I dried the seats I was really impressed with how clean they turned out.

Before:

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After:

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Unfortunately we had to take a break to get dinner, and by the time we were finished it was past his bedtime. So I went out last night and finished up the seat install and put his seat in my car. I'm not entirely happy with the way that the seat buckle fits in his seat so I'm going to figure out a way to incorporate the LATCH system into my car so that I can safely latch his seat down. The seat buckle is really large and will be right in the middle of his back when it goes through the seat, so it's not going to be very comfortable for him.

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I also got the passenger side quarter window cleaned up and installed with some new trim. I'm waiting on the seal from Metro, so as soon as that's here I'll install that.

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I installed a bunch of other stuff on the car, but didn't get a picture of it all. Passenger side kick panel, both door seals, tightened up the steering box and a few other misc. parts. At this point, I'm very happy with the car and love that it's 100% turnkey now. I'm hoping to take the car to a local car show this Sunday if the weather holds out. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on May 17, 2019, 11:08:44 AM
Wow! (I say that a lot on your thread). You are on the home stretch here. Car looks great. I plan to find some newer car to borrow the rear 3 point seat belts from so my kids (now 10 & 12) can ride in my T/A.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on May 17, 2019, 01:26:14 PM
That's understandable, was just a thought since I can't imagine you're just going to use it for pleasure cruises.  Nothing like fighting to stay in the seat through a turn. :lol:
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on May 17, 2019, 01:28:27 PM
Wow! (I say that a lot on your thread). You are on the home stretch here. Car looks great. I plan to find some newer car to borrow the rear 3 point seat belts from so my kids (now 10 & 12) can ride in my T/A.
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Sorry I had too.  :lol:

You might try retrofitting the belts from a fourth gen, I seem to recall someone here adding rear shoulder belts to their second gen with some kind of o.e. GM stuff anyway.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: ryeguy2006a on May 20, 2019, 07:03:20 AM
I've been working very hard to get this car to the point where it's complete(enough), safe and reliable. This weekend I finally made it happen. Did it have side windows... no, did it have a dash or door panels... no, but it did have seats, seat belts, and a fully functional drive train which is all that I was really concerned about. I've finally put enough miles on the car making short trips that I was comfortable making a longer trip so I packed up the family and took the car to the local car show at the TST BOCES that usually hosts the first car show of the year.

I gave my car a quick wash and dry before I headed out and it drove flawlessly. Not sure if the sensor is bad or if it's just worked itself out, but the knock sensor code went away and didn't come back on the whole day. Here's a few pictures of my car and the few I got before my phone battery died.

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My son got to sit in the 1911 REO Sport Coupe? that a couple brought out.

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I thought this Patina'd wagon was pretty great.

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It was a beautiful day with the temps around 85, but I prefer it a little warmer than my family. They were getting pretty warm, so after about an hour we left and got some iced coffee and cookies from a coffee shop in the Ithaca area. After we all cooled down I wanted to get my son to pose in a tough car guy pose, but instead he wanted to be a ninja and this was the best shot I got.

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When the car was parked in the driveway I snapped a few more pictures. I liked the angle here.

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On Saturday I ended up meeting a fellow member at the Senaca Army Depot SCCA autox event to pick up his old sway bar. I was too worried about the traffic from all of the car to snap any pictures, but that was a great little event. Lots of nice cars and it was really cool seeing Don's car in person. Thanks again for the sway bar. Unsure of the brand, but it's an 1 1/8" hammertone finsh. Should help to tighten up the front.

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I drove the car a lot on Sunday because when I got back from the show it was just so nice I couldn't help but get it out again. I racked up about 100 miles on Sunday and I'm loving every minute. I'm going to keep plugging away at the interior and getting the car weather tight, but I'm thinking that progress is going to slow down now. I wanna go fast!

Cheers,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: roadking77 on May 20, 2019, 07:32:39 AM
Good Deal Ryan, looks like you son had a good time too. There was a show this weekend in the town I was just at, thought maybe that was it, but I suppose not. I like that your son got to sit in the REO. I take my 7yo grandson to the local shows and there seems to always be someone that lets them sit in their car.  I would do the same but dont really see any young'ns.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: FormTA on May 20, 2019, 09:00:58 AM
I really like those wheels on that car. Looks great. Glad you and the fam are getting to enjoy it!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Box on May 20, 2019, 02:10:27 PM
Haha too cute, kids will be kids and do what they want for the most part.  Glad you and the family had a good time!  It's funny how much bigger the new Camaro looks next to yours from that one pic.

Good Deal Ryan, looks like you son had a good time too. There was a show this weekend in the town I was just at, thought maybe that was it, but I suppose not. I like that your son got to sit in the REO. I take my 7yo grandson to the local shows and there seems to always be someone that lets them sit in their car.  I would do the same but dont really see any young'ns.
There was an older gentleman that let me sit in his 911(964) Turbo a few years ago, definitely made my day and made me feel like I was seven!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: TATurbo on May 22, 2019, 09:14:38 PM
Car looks great.  I love that red! I'm happy to see you are getting some time to enjoy it.
Looking forward to seeing the interior. 
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: jonathonar89 on May 23, 2019, 12:26:45 PM
Car looks great!  Good to see it out.
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: Nexus on May 23, 2019, 01:05:32 PM
This turned out sweet. Nice work on her!!
Title: Re: 1968 Camaro Resto-mod 6.0/6 speed; Project Penny Pincher
Post by: mrbandit on May 24, 2019, 09:54:39 AM
That looks so good Ryan.  Have you tried a magic eraser on those seats?  I've made old white leather shoes look new with one.

Thanks for notifying me about the site issue this morning!