TAC Spotlight => Show & Tell => Topic started by: jonathonar89 on October 30, 2013, 06:54:53 PM

Title: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on October 30, 2013, 06:54:53 PM
Here is my car
http://youtu.be/b0BVxF_hnv0
http://youtu.be/8WXIKkRPhf8
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: L7G6ND on October 30, 2013, 07:27:43 PM
I'd like to see some pics too...post a few up!
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on October 19, 2014, 07:56:37 PM
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/image_zps1e76a78a.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/image_zps1e76a78a.jpg.html)
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/image_zps6c2cde3a.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/image_zps6c2cde3a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on October 19, 2014, 08:08:33 PM
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_20111018_114907.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_20111018_114907.jpg.html)
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_20111018_114948.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_20111018_114948.jpg.html)
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(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/image-2_zps581bde14.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/image-2_zps581bde14.jpg.html)
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on October 19, 2014, 08:18:00 PM
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/0A08151D-6DDF-4A95-A605-7F842B0625DC_zpspljwxmpo.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/0A08151D-6DDF-4A95-A605-7F842B0625DC_zpspljwxmpo.jpg.html)
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/43B4D55D-59C5-4813-8650-38779F145E0C_zpsghvpodo5.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/43B4D55D-59C5-4813-8650-38779F145E0C_zpsghvpodo5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: roadking77 on October 20, 2014, 04:41:44 PM
I like your alarm :shock:
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: Bandit1 on October 21, 2014, 08:34:24 AM
Nice car! That Doberman didn't scratch the paint did it? Also is that your Boss?
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on October 22, 2014, 02:13:19 PM
My friends Boss...I've driven that thing a few times and even with 50 miles on the odometer.  The paint on my t/a isn't original and needs bodywork so it's cool to not care about it to a degree.  I'm more angered about the person who swiped my front bumper that I painted grey and ran off while I wasn't by my car.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: Bandit1 on November 06, 2014, 12:00:22 PM
My friends Boss...I've driven that thing a few times and even with 50 miles on the odometer.  The paint on my t/a isn't original and needs bodywork so it's cool to not care about it to a degree.  I'm more angered about the person who swiped my front bumper that I painted grey and ran off while I wasn't by my car.

Some people are just evil. Whatcha doin' with the brown T/A?
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on November 11, 2014, 12:04:18 AM
My friends Boss...I've driven that thing a few times and even with 50 miles on the odometer.  The paint on my t/a isn't original and needs bodywork so it's cool to not care about it to a degree.  I'm more angered about the person who swiped my front bumper that I painted grey and ran off while I wasn't by my car.

Some people are just evil. Whatcha doin' with the brown T/A?

That one is owned by a family friend.  I used to own it.  It's had a lot of work done to it over the years and even more since this thread...
http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=64208.msg593018#msg593018
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on February 05, 2015, 07:50:59 PM
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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on February 05, 2015, 07:54:16 PM
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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on February 25, 2015, 10:44:01 PM
Just got a spectra classic injection fuel tank gm201fi today.  Like others have mentioned, I pulled out the sending unit and the sock had fallen off.
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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: Spoon on February 26, 2015, 04:28:20 AM
Jon -

I really love the color combo on your TA, very unique. I don't know much about Pontiac engines, but your valley pan looks interesting. Could you tell me a little bit about it? Thanks,

Chris
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: mrbandit on February 26, 2015, 07:10:11 AM
That is a serious approach to fuel delivery.  I can't wait to see it come together.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on February 26, 2015, 10:37:06 AM
Jon -

I really love the color combo on your TA, very unique. I don't know much about Pontiac engines, but your valley pan looks interesting. Could you tell me a little bit about it? Thanks,

Chris

My valley pan is from BOP Engineering and I also have their PCV "breather" on the driver valve cover.  I basically moved the PCV to the valve cover instead of the front like stock ones.  It's a fairly cheap modification that costs about $100 for everything.

You can them like this from butler performance or allpontiac.com
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: Spoon on February 26, 2015, 07:22:58 PM
Thanks!

I looked up your part just now, and the item description says "not for use with EGR intakes". I'm stuck with emissions equipment requirements for the time being, so I wouldn't be able to use it. Anyway, thanks for the info and good luck with the rest of your project. I am going to keep a close eye on your FAST system, it looks pretty serious. Someday I want to install a full EFI system - right after I win the Powerball. Cheers!

Chris
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on February 26, 2015, 08:58:35 PM
My setup works in the same manner as stock.  It's just that the pcv is in the valve cover rather than on the valley pan.  You might want to double check and call bop engineering if a mod like this on your mind.  These valley pans should have great clearance.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: Spoon on February 26, 2015, 09:40:18 PM
Thanks, I will do that. I spoke with Greg at Butler the other day to ask about intakes and valley pans. In a very nice manner, Greg told me that I am S.O.L. because there are no aftermarket valley pans that will accommodate both a stock EGR equipped intake manifold, and also the roller tip lifter arms on the bottom side. But they do have some old OEM valley pans in the shop that can be used for the purpose. I felt bad having to ask a race engine builder about such things, but I have to run all the stock emissions equipment on my engine and pass smog inspection for the time being. But I am really happy to have them build the motor and I know that it will be done well.

PS - the reason that I am using a stock intake manifold is that I read an article from a person that swapped out the OEM EGR manifold for an Edelbrock EGR manifold and had some fitment issues with the project.
http://www.pontiacstreetperformance.com/psp/smogintake.html (http://www.pontiacstreetperformance.com/psp/smogintake.html)

I know that Butler would have no problem making any modifications necessary, but just to keep things simple for me after the build I thought it would be best to have a setup that I can recognize and find parts for if necessary. Things like the throttle cable bracket, fuel to carb line, shaker to hood clearance, etc. And I just got an original '79 L78 400 Quadrajet so I am really happy to have a stock carb to start with. I am much better at swapping out parts than I am at creating new ones :)

I know, clear as mud, and sorry for the thread creep.

Thanks for the help,
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: Grand73Am on March 03, 2015, 07:50:37 PM
And I just got an original '79 L78 400 Quadrajet so I am really happy to have a stock carb to start with.

Sorry for being nit-picky, but there was no L78 in '79. So there was no '79 L78 Q-jet. There were only W72 400 engines used in '79. 
What are the numbers on it. It may be a 77 or 78.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on March 03, 2015, 11:07:41 PM
And I just got an original '79 L78 400 Quadrajet so I am really happy to have a stock carb to start with.

Sorry for being nit-picky, but there was no L78 in '79. So there was no '79 L78 Q-jet. There were only W72 400 engines used in '79. 
What are the numbers on it. It may be a 77 or 78.

From what I recall when I used to have a W72 carb...I believe the number on the side of the body you are looking for is 17059263. 

Great carb for stock application but I would like to see someone run of those carbs to the fullest power potential with a single plane intake and turbocharger.  There is a lot of guess and heresay on that subject though.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: Spoon on March 04, 2015, 02:14:22 AM
Thanks Guys, I guess I don't know an L78 from a hole in the ground! ha ha. Sorry for the wrong info.

Chris
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: 737driver on March 05, 2015, 02:57:54 AM
Very interesting for sure ! I look forward to see how the EFI turns out. I'm getting the parts together to convert mine to EFI.
Jim
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on March 05, 2015, 07:20:39 PM
Very interesting for sure ! I look forward to see how the EFI turns out. I'm getting the parts together to convert mine to EFI.
Jim

Thanks Jim, I hope to see your EFI setup come together on the website soon as well.  Still planning on the MSD throttle body injection system?

You did an amazing job on the restoration in your thread! 

Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on March 05, 2015, 07:24:08 PM
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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: 737driver on March 06, 2015, 12:56:54 AM

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Thanks Jim, I hope to see your EFI setup come together on the website soon as well.  Still planning on the MSD throttle body injection system?


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Yup , I'm gonna go with MSD setup, I picked it up today as well as some other stuff.
Jim
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on March 17, 2015, 10:20:57 PM
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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: Turbo Steve on March 18, 2015, 05:48:34 AM
Think I saw this car locally?  Crystal Lake?
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on March 18, 2015, 09:16:02 AM
Think I saw this car locally?  Crystal Lake?

Yes, it was at my dads house out there for the past two years.  The car is in Fox Lake now.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on March 18, 2015, 10:29:37 PM
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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on March 19, 2015, 04:37:42 PM
Getting side tracked from going about the EFI install.  Pulled the tail lights and harness this morning then taped off all the holes so I can start cleaning up the rear section and under the car.  I'm debating taking this car down more by pulling the rear end and suspension so I can make things right.  Bumper isn't pulled off because I have one stripped nut holding it on.  Ordered a KBS all-in-one chassis kit (gloss black) last night so I can start coating the bottom of the car, gas tank, etc.

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/4BE71A36-AF29-41DD-B6DF-DC6A04CF7637_zpsvbtmir1q.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/4BE71A36-AF29-41DD-B6DF-DC6A04CF7637_zpsvbtmir1q.jpg.html)
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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on March 29, 2015, 09:56:49 AM
Finally got the bumper off this weekend.  I ended up cutting two stripped/rusted bolts to get it out.  There is some rust around the area where the bumper mounts on the drivers side, along the bottom of the tail section and the inner tail panel has issues.  No pictures yet but I also started using a 4" wire wheel to remove undercoating and seam sealer.  It's a very dirty job and I'm doing it so I can then use a liquid paint stripper. 
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/2A9A75F5-9F61-4942-884A-7C8245CC681A_zpsitzabenh.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/2A9A75F5-9F61-4942-884A-7C8245CC681A_zpsitzabenh.jpg.html)
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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: TA6.6Liter on March 29, 2015, 01:52:27 PM
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/image-2_zps581bde14.jpg) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/image-2_zps581bde14.jpg.html)

Best car alarm ever!!!!!!
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on March 30, 2015, 03:11:27 PM
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/image-2_zps581bde14.jpg) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/image-2_zps581bde14.jpg.html)

Best car alarm ever!!!!!!

Thanks man, that little guy is too nice though.  I have a little girl doberman that people have to watch for a little more. 

Hopefully I don't get banned from this forum for abusing a Trans Am.  I just sold my original hood/shaker and ordered a fiberglass VFN cowl induction hood for my car in this thread. 

I have a friends '78 Trans Am I'm building on the side that I have a very trick induction setup planned for the stock shaker hood assembly.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: TA6.6Liter on March 30, 2015, 03:23:01 PM

Thanks man, that little guy is too nice though.  I have a little girl doberman that people have to watch for a little more. 


It is a killer photo, so to speak.  Showed a few of my other TA fans and it got a lot of laughs.  On the serious side, there are several thread here on TAC about protecting our cars and I think the doberman on the hood is by far the best. 
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on April 19, 2015, 08:30:15 PM
Been a little slow about getting to work on the car.  I pulled the rear end out last weekend and did some more cleaning under the car.  I'm still grinding off undercoating before I apply paint stripper. 

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/997D2ABE-7D43-4B7B-8963-0FA1401F6EE0_zps6jfiicur.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/997D2ABE-7D43-4B7B-8963-0FA1401F6EE0_zps6jfiicur.jpg.html)
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/71E962AF-C0E9-459B-8635-9282DEF63303_zps4yngqa3f.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/71E962AF-C0E9-459B-8635-9282DEF63303_zps4yngqa3f.jpg.html)
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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on May 10, 2015, 12:17:31 AM
Been slightly boring for pictures of the car lately.  I did get a chance to put a couple days of grinding on the underbody...should hopefully be prepared for painting the underside soon enough. 

Here was a mini project I did...polished a couple original thermostat housings
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/874846F1-7C20-4FA2-A31B-E1422ACCC3A4_zpsvsy7bvuv.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/874846F1-7C20-4FA2-A31B-E1422ACCC3A4_zpsvsy7bvuv.jpg.html)
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/45DAEB42-B3A9-4CFE-8691-797DA6B2DABF_zpsxgwvzd1f.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/45DAEB42-B3A9-4CFE-8691-797DA6B2DABF_zpsxgwvzd1f.jpg.html)
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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on August 05, 2015, 03:16:56 PM
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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: TA6.6Liter on August 05, 2015, 06:53:53 PM
Very nice.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on September 17, 2015, 12:55:10 PM
It's been a while since I posted.  I've been slow to get work done but it's been moving somewhat.  As pictured before, I applied the first layer of sealer under the car.  I still need to put seam sealer in and paint over that.

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/WP_20150730_18_40_51_Pro_zpsaih6kakc.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/WP_20150730_18_40_51_Pro_zpsaih6kakc.jpg.html)
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Title: Rear Hotchkis Suspension
Post by: jonathonar89 on September 17, 2015, 01:13:27 PM
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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: 70TA Tony on September 17, 2015, 06:56:02 PM
Looks like you have been doing a lot of things to the bird. 
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on September 26, 2015, 03:11:04 PM
Test fitted my new alternator.  A family friend of mine owns an alternator shop and he custom assembled this alternator for me.  It's a later style gm alternator with internal/external fan that puts out 180 amps.  He set me up with an adapter to plug my factory harness into the later style alternator. 

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/WP_20150925_20_17_43_Pro1_zpsijnebypl.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/WP_20150925_20_17_43_Pro1_zpsijnebypl.jpg.html)
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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on October 11, 2015, 11:06:34 PM
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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on October 15, 2015, 08:02:52 PM
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Post by: jonathonar89 on October 31, 2015, 06:08:15 AM
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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: Apotack on October 31, 2015, 08:44:42 PM
Nice work. Looking forward to seeing more.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on November 01, 2015, 07:26:00 PM
Another setup I'm excited to share.  Got some '87 GTA seats in carmine red off my local Craigslist.  They have recline, adjustable headrest and electric lumbar support.  I hope to have some install pics soon.

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/Mobile%20Uploads/WP_20151031_20_46_16_Pro_zpsynkwnisi.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/Mobile%20Uploads/WP_20151031_20_46_16_Pro_zpsynkwnisi.jpg.html)
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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on November 02, 2015, 02:05:07 PM
Here's a color comparison of my original '79 carmine red seats vs carmine from an '87 GTA Trans Am.  Both have years of fading but its extremely close so I can't be any happier.  I will be attempting to mount the GTA seat on my original 2nd Gen slider brackets.  I followed a few other threads on swaps like this and found that others simply build an adapter mount to get the seats mounted. 

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/WP_20151102_12_15_52_Pro_zpsqej9feym.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/WP_20151102_12_15_52_Pro_zpsqej9feym.jpg.html)
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on November 03, 2015, 01:18:48 PM
Did an initial mockup on the passenger side today.  I still need to make some final adjustments to get bolted up correctly but this is fairly close.  As others have mentioned, the later style seats make you sit a bit higher.  With some fabrication, there is the possibility to lower the seat in my case.  I cut some square tubing from a workout bench we had in our shed to build the adapter.

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/Mobile%20Uploads/WP_20151103_10_50_30_Pro_zpsccnnnizo.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/Mobile%20Uploads/WP_20151103_10_50_30_Pro_zpsccnnnizo.jpg.html)
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on November 05, 2015, 10:39:38 PM
Made some more progress on the seat install today.  This is actually turning out to be more work than expected.  The stock 2nd gen sliders are curved so it can't readily accept a square piece of tubing.  You also have to make clearance for the release lever then determine where to mount the later style seat.  Here it is with both of the seats roughly in.  The driver side seat needs a bit more clearance due to it having a box for the electronics.

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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on November 10, 2015, 09:31:21 PM
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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: TransAm400 on November 13, 2015, 11:07:46 AM
Got any side shots of how high that throttle body and victor are sitting up? I'll be running Holley HP with the same intake set up. Trying to fit it under a shaker.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on November 14, 2015, 04:09:28 PM
Got any side shots of how high that throttle body and victor are sitting up? I'll be running Holley HP with the same intake set up. Trying to fit it under a shaker.

No pictures right now but when I had my shaker hood, it was sitting right below the hole.  You will probably need to mill the manifold pad and build your own air cleaner base with a conical filter like what PTFB and Ram Air sells. You could also build a base with a flat filter in the shaker as well. I wouldn't gamble on any of the drop base units.  Each car is different and will need it's own built to fit correctly. 

Another option that's simple is to just mount the shaker to the hood. 
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on November 14, 2015, 04:28:44 PM
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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on November 19, 2015, 05:40:05 AM
Old pics with my dog when he was a pup...

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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on January 06, 2016, 10:48:13 PM
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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: hatdragracer on January 08, 2016, 03:28:25 PM
Here is the latest set of parts going on my car.  Haven't seen too many Pontiac's with this setup and this is my first fuel injection installation so I'm excited about that.


I converted my Grand National to FAST XFI 2.0 last year and have been very happy with the results.

Did you get the data logging capability as well?

This is a very cool project you have going on here!
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on January 08, 2016, 05:07:33 PM
Here is the latest set of parts going on my car.  Haven't seen too many Pontiac's with this setup and this is my first fuel injection installation so I'm excited about that.


I converted my Grand National to FAST XFI 2.0 last year and have been very happy with the results.

Did you get the data logging capability as well?

This is a very cool project you have going on here!

That's pretty cool you installed XFI in a GN.  The guy I bought my 4th gen brakes from in my previous post had a bunch of GN and 4th gen T/A parts in his garage.  PM me if you're looking for anything GN.

My build has taken a crazy different direction this year but I'm happy with where it's heading at this point in time.  Thank you for the kind words!  It feels like I'm going many different directions on this car and it's hard to stay concentrated on certain aspects of the build.  I didn't expect to be installing GTA seats or LS1 until I randomly found it on my local craigslist. 

Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: builditguy on January 16, 2016, 03:34:37 PM
Just curious.  How do you plan on mounting the shaker to the top of the air cleaner? 

I have the same thing on mine.  Well similar, mine doesn't look that nice.  I think I'm going to make a bracket that mounts to the top of the air claner, that I can bolt and unbolt the shaker from. 

The original parts are long gone.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on January 16, 2016, 09:37:25 PM
Just curious.  How do you plan on mounting the shaker to the top of the air cleaner? 

I have the same thing on mine.  Well similar, mine doesn't look that nice.  I think I'm going to make a bracket that mounts to the top of the air claner, that I can bolt and unbolt the shaker from. 

The original parts are long gone.


For your car, you might find it easiest to separate the fiberglass section from the bracket then use the holes to mount on a flat piece of sheet metal across the bottom of the hood.  The structure under the hood will provide perfect spacing for the shaker to sit under under the hood and maintain perfect positioning at all times.  Doing this loses the "shaker" effect but you gain maximum clearance for any future engine modification/swap, it provides the best seal and you'll save money/time.  Trust me, if you don't have all the original equipment, there will be a lot more trial/error when trying to mount the scoop to the engine and seal it against the hood. 
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: builditguy on January 18, 2016, 08:27:17 PM
I appreciate it.  I got your text today.  I will pay it forward to someone.  I've already got some extra pieces to donate to someone.  I'm going to wait until I get it put together before unloading anything.

I would like the shaker to work.  Not a big deal, but I think I can do it.  I had to add a 1" spacer to the carbuerator (sp?).  With the shaker sitting on top, it has just about the right amount of room.  I'm planning on removing the bottom ring of the shaker.  It's not the original shaker so I'm not too worried about presevering anyting.  If I remove the bottom ring, I think I can put steel straps across the top of the shaker, with an "L" bend.  Then runs some screws into the "L" bend and into the shaker.  I can sort of see it, in my mind. 

Right now, I'm thinking about the dash.  Once I get it put back together, under the hood will be my focus.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on January 18, 2016, 09:10:32 PM
I appreciate it.  I got your text today.  I will pay it forward to someone.  I've already got some extra pieces to donate to someone.  I'm going to wait until I get it put together before unloading anything.

I would like the shaker to work.  Not a big deal, but I think I can do it.  I had to add a 1" spacer to the carbuerator (sp?).  With the shaker sitting on top, it has just about the right amount of room.  I'm planning on removing the bottom ring of the shaker.  It's not the original shaker so I'm not too worried about presevering anyting.  If I remove the bottom ring, I think I can put steel straps across the top of the shaker, with an "L" bend.  Then runs some screws into the "L" bend and into the shaker.  I can sort of see it, in my mind. 

Right now, I'm thinking about the dash.  Once I get it put back together, under the hood will be my focus.

Nothing wrong with making the shaker work.  I had mine act as an air box so it would only pull from the open back before.  The downside for me was that the thing would start pulling water in when it started raining.  I would do the shaker assembly again but I would want to build my own scoop base that could open/close a flap to stop this.  I now have a welder so maybe I will get to make an attempt at fabricating a shaker assembly when it's running again.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on March 07, 2016, 11:51:08 PM
Made some progress with regards to getting the rear end complete.  I ended up taking my housing to the person who assembled my engine.  I was going to do it myself initially but went this route and it ended up being a great decision for me.  Some things came up like the BRP brackets needing additional clearance and the crush sleeve eliminator needed to be machined.  One cool thing to mention about the driveshaft yoke is that it's machined to accept a magnetic collar for detecting driveshaft speed.  This can be used for vehicle speed, traction control, etc.  Again this is the original 8.5 10 bolt rear end from my car. 

-Moser 30 spline axles
-Eaton Detroit Truetrac carrier
-Strange Engineering 1350 chrome moly driveshaft yoke
-Motive Gear ring and pinion
-Crush sleeve eliminator
-'98-'02 F-Body brakes (BRP Hot Rods adapter bracket)
-Axle tubes fully welded to center section
-Custom length wheel studs

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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on March 10, 2016, 12:38:45 PM
Set the car down last night after being on jack stands the past year.  I'm sure it will lower once the gas tank,, exhaust bumper, lights and everything else is installed out back.  This was exciting for me but I still have a ton more work to do.

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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: Dreamn2 on March 22, 2016, 02:44:40 PM
Looks really nice. Love the progress!
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on March 22, 2016, 03:14:59 PM
Looks really nice. Love the progress!

Thanks dreamn2, I just replied to your pm.  I'm doing some pretty wild modifications with this car but it's still far from being where I want to get...always trying make progress though. 
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: F-Body International on June 28, 2016, 04:11:55 PM
I (jonathonar89) mentioned this elsewhere on the forum that I switched my account name to F-Body International in order to match up with other forums I frequent.  I will be continuing this thread under this username now. 

After doing some testing and comparing the Hotchkis sway bars with Dave @ Pro-Touring F-Body, I ended up selling the Hotchkis parts and bought an adjustable PTFB high clearance sway bar.  The Hotchkis sway bars were nice but after testing, it proved to be about as strong as a factory WS6 sway bar but created less inboard tire/wheel clearance.  The Pro-Touring F-Body sway bar is stronger and also has some very nice end links.   Here are some pictures showing the comparison between a Hotchkis sway bar and PTFB's adjustable high clearance sway bar.  You can see how the PTFB bar is pitched in more to allow for more tire/wheel clearance and also has a highly adjustable end link with bearings.
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Since I ended up switching to the Pro-Touring F-Body sway bar, I've been consulting with Dave(79T/A man)@Pro-Touring F-Body and John Paige (NOT A TA) to further develop my front suspension.  We ended up deciding that I pull my whole subframe out and do a whole build at the Pro-Touring F-Body shop since I live nearby.  Over the next few weeks I'll be posting some pictures and doing a write-up as it progresses.  This is going to be as good as it gets for building a 2nd gen subframe!

The following modifications will be done to the subframe...
-Pro-Touring F-Body coil-over install kit
-Pro-Touring F-Body upper control arms
-Pro-Touring F-Body lower control arms (built for coil-over only)
-Pro-Touring F-Body adjustable sway bar
-Pro-Touring F-Body sway bar brace
-ViKing double-adjustable coil-over shocks
-John Paige (NOT A TA) upper control arm adjustable supports
-John Paige (NOT A TA) lower control arm frame reinforcement kit
-John Paige (NOT A TA) body mount frame reinforcement kit
-John Paige (NOT A TA) sway bar mount upgrade

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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: F-Body International on July 14, 2016, 09:45:36 PM
A small update today that I'm pretty excited about is finding a nice set of GTA rear seats that match the front seats. What's cool about these seats is that they can fold down, match the front seat design and overall interior color.  From what I have found, '87 was the only year you could get GTA seats in carmine red and this happens to be the same color that was used in '79.  Please disregard the severely faded carpet and beat up interior panels ;)  These aren't bolt-in so I will have to fab up some mounts for the lower cushion mount, hinge and latch setup.  The seat back also doesn't sit flush against the trunk block off panel so I will have to modify that some as well.

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Here's the front again...
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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: FormTA on July 15, 2016, 11:32:08 AM
That is way cool. I may have to do something similar with my back seat.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: F-Body International on July 17, 2016, 06:51:57 PM
That is way cool. I may have to do something similar with my back seat.

Thanks FormTA!

I just want to make sure you know that it's not a quick bolt in deal.  Later 4th gen has the same style seat but those can be had with electric adjustments.  On mine, I think I'm going to mount the front seats solid with no slider.

-Rear seat cushion is bolt in style so you need to fabricate a mount.
-Rear seat needs two mounts built built for the hinges and also a latch bolt mounted by the wheel wells.
-Front seat sliders don't interchange so an adaptor or custom seat mount needs to be fabricated.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: ErickL on July 19, 2016, 11:44:40 AM
Awesome bird   :grin:
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: F-Body International on July 29, 2016, 10:59:26 PM
I was pretty excited I got this part in the mail today.  It's a Turn One Performance Plus model steering box in 12:1 ratio with 235 T-Bar.  These are very expensive brand new but I got this one as a serviced unit for a very good price.  I'm on a budget like most others on the forum so it's always exciting for me to score a deal.  Here is a link to what this box is if anyone wants to check them out....
http://www.turnone-steering.com/#!online-store/ciui/!/Performance-Plus-Model/p/47722335/category=12405583
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Numbers for the nerds...
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I also ordered a steering rebuild kit and True-Steer correction kit from Dave this week.  All that's left to order for the subframe upgrades is brakes, tires and wheels.  I sold the snowflake wheels but I have to make a few more dollars before I can order the next set I want to get. 
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: F-Body International on August 14, 2016, 05:40:31 PM
I randomly fell upon chasing down a new set of wheels.  The 17x9 snowflakes were awesome but I felt that I wanted something different and sold them.  Last year I was looking at lightweight forged big wheels but after swapping to third gen seats, I began looking at later style Pontiac wheels.  I thought maybe the new 17x9 GTA wheels would look cool but then I found these.  They're replica wheels of what came on the '91-'92 SLP Firehawk.  They only built 25 of those cars and thought it match what I'm doing with my car.

Also, with these wheels, I think I'm going with the Pro-Touring F-Body 12" A.X. brake kit.  I took the wheels to the shop and Dave found that the 13" brake kit will fit but are extremely tight and I would need to run a spacer.  The 12" brakes are lighter, cheaper and fit better so I'm going with that for now.  Once we get those parts together, I'll post some more pictures.

My next debates are what tires to go with.  Here are my options...

1) 285/40 17 all around
-Small selection of summer performance tires only.
-Tallest tire of this group.

2) 275/40 17 all around
-Cheaper prices available.
-More tire types available (all season, summer, racing slicks)

3) 275/40 17 in front with 315/35 17 rear
-Requires spacers and wheel widening in the rear.
-Can be cheap or can be expensive depending on rear tire selection.

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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: Tdee29er on August 30, 2016, 05:35:10 PM
Nice work.
I'm in the process of doing something similar to my 79 400 4spd. Did you clean and paint the underside of the car on those Jack stands?
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: F-Body International on August 30, 2016, 05:53:33 PM
Nice work.
I'm in the process of doing something similar to my 79 400 4spd. Did you clean and paint the underside of the car on those Jack stands?

Yes, I used one of those POR15 style paints just to seal up the underbody for now.  It was a full chassis refinishing kit from KBS coatings.  It actually looks really nice if you brush it on.  Next time around, I would paint it with two part epoxy primer, sealer and paint. 
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on January 22, 2017, 08:52:28 PM
Been a while since I updated this post but I want to give some updates.  Although everything has been paid for with regards to the front suspension, I'm still waiting on it all to get finished. 

Got all wheels the ordered but I still need to pick out a center cap emblem for them.  Dave from PTFB hooked me up with an old set of tires.

Sold my FAST efi equipment.  I switched to building a Megasquirt II efi setup.  For ignition, I acquired an '81 301 Turbo distributor because of its 7-wire computer controlled feature.  For intake, I got myself an old Holley Street Dominator because it's a low profile intake.  For fueling, my debate at the moment is utilizing a Holley Terminator throttle body or possibly a GM 454 TBI from SPR Performance.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on May 20, 2017, 11:56:24 PM
Recent updates.


Suspension....I've bought a new frame locally to work on for my car after waiting and waiting for Dave at PTFB to supply my coilover suspension, lower control arms, g-braces, sway bar brace, etc.  I paid him in full a year ago, have not received my parts and the business has moved to Tennessee.  I've tried numerous times to get him to finish what I paid him for but every week there's a new story or excuse.  It's just a shame because I know him as a friend and I've helped work in the shop a lot this past year but I just don't think he will finish my stuff at this point.  I am now trying out Global West for suspension.


Engine...I recently acquired two 454 TBI's and a '81 301 Turbo HEI distributor.  I am using the '81 301 turbo distributor because it's a 7-wire computer controlled HEI (no weights/spring/vacuum can).  Currently, the distributor is being gone through by a specialist in that area.  Once the distributor gets back, I plan on sending the 454 TBI to Sean at SPR Performance so he can bore out the throttle body and modify it so I can run an external fuel pressure regulator
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Exterior/Body...Just traded my shaker hood for a 301 Turbo hood from an '81.  I'm going to try and graft in a 3rd gen '82-'84 cowl induction setup because the hood bulge is the same between 2nd-3rd gen.  It's stupid that this is now my 4th hood for the car but I feel very excited about this one. 
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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: FormTA on May 21, 2017, 07:15:52 AM
Glad to see this project moving forward! Cool project all around!
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on May 21, 2017, 07:52:21 AM
Glad to see this project moving forward! Cool project all around!

Thanks Form!

It's been very disheartening to not get my suspension after a year of excuses from PTFB.  I've heard it all but I have to move on with something else at this point.  I don't dislike Dave but that's the reality of the situation...every week is another story and/or excuse from him.  It's hard on my wallet to pay for suspension twice over for my front subframe but I have to do it. 

On a side note, my credit card information was stolen last week so I'm waiting on a new card to come in the mail.  Once that's in, I can pay Global West for my lower control arms and coil-over springs.  I got the upper control arms from them right away but their lower control arms were on back-order for a couple days.  That should be handled this upcoming week.
 
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: FormTA on May 21, 2017, 09:24:58 AM
Won't he even give you a partial refund just as good faith? What a bummer. I hope everything smooths out in the end for both parties. Good luck and keep on keeping on. Any progress is good progress.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on May 21, 2017, 10:36:35 AM
Won't he even give you a partial refund just as good faith? What a bummer. I hope everything smooths out in the end for both parties. Good luck and keep on keeping on. Any progress is good progress.

I tried calling and texting Dave a couple times last week about that and never got a response.  After a year of me waiting, helping him in the shop and doing everything I can for him to help me, I'm just done.  He's had multiple issues since moving to Tennessee but looking back, there was always some type of shop or personal issues effecting my stuff getting done when everything was here in Illinois.  Other people I know have been waiting for parts months before the move as well.

Dave is my friend so it makes everything harder for me to get mad about it.  I used to work at the PTFB shop (for free) in my free time so I know a good amount of the financial and physical hardships he faces with moving to Tennessee.  If anyone has bought from PTFB this past year, there's a good chance I helped with building the part and/or boxing it for shipping.  It's very aggravating knowing that I've helped with the shop for free for about a year and paid full price to do a whole subframe build but not getting my stuff.  It's a loss of money and time at this point.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on May 23, 2017, 09:50:26 PM
Made some progress on my new frame between yesterday and today.

Wire wheeled my new subframe just to clean off a majority of the undercoating and loose debris.
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Welded in a set of Lab-14 sway bar reinforcement plates.  I highly recommend these after my experience last year.  Last year, I was tightening up a Hotchkis sway bar and ended up stripping the threads in the frame.  These plates have a nut welded to them so it creates a very strong bolting point for the sway bar.  Please excuse my welding if it doesn't look pretty.  I've never had any professional teach me and I only have a couple jobs under my belt.
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Also got around to installing a set of Lab-14 body mount reinforcement plates.  These are pretty cool.  I just noticed today that with a sleeved body mount like the PTFB mounts I have, they insure that the sleeve stays inside the bore.  These plates should make for a nice clamp on the frame to keep it locked to the body and reinforce the metal in this area.  I was speaking with John at Lab-14 recently to see if he has plans to make a similar plate for the rear body mount under the seat pan...hopefully that part becomes available soon. 
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I have the day off tomorrow so hopefully I can get around to installing my Lab-14 upper and lower control arm reinforcements.  After that, I'm hoping this frame will be close to being ready for sandblasting.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on May 23, 2017, 09:51:09 PM
Just found out tonight that the 3rd gen cowl induction setup is not a direct bolt-in setup.  I'm pretty bummed that the screen doesn't offer enough material height for trimming and plastic induction piece is also wider than the 2nd gen opening as well.   

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0331_zpsotv2olve.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0331_zpsotv2olve.jpg.html)

2nd gen scoop piece removed...
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0333_zpspb8mwmqf.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0333_zpspb8mwmqf.jpg.html)

2nd gen scoop vs 3rd gen cowl induction...
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0337_zpsp0qoptbu.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0337_zpsp0qoptbu.jpg.html)

2nd gen block off plate vs 3rd gen induction screen...
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0339_zpsircusuf1.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0339_zpsircusuf1.jpg.html)

My hopes are not 100% lost yet.  I'm hoping I can modify the cowl induction and build my own screen in order to make this work.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on May 24, 2017, 10:33:28 PM
Not much done to the car today but I was happy seeing my welds on the Lab-14 mounts look a little nicer after using a wire wheel to clean them up.  I still have to grind down these areas a small amount so that the sway bar clamps and PTFB solid body mounts are able to flat and tight on the frame.

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0352_zpseptcdnv1.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0352_zpseptcdnv1.jpg.html)

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0353_zpsy7cchqcg.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0353_zpsy7cchqcg.jpg.html)

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0354_zps4pjfihl6.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0354_zps4pjfihl6.jpg.html)

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0355_zpsflhqbi2b.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0355_zpsflhqbi2b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: FormTA on May 25, 2017, 04:57:57 AM
Looking good, keep at it.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on June 08, 2017, 09:02:22 PM
I've been busy working at home this past week so I haven't been able to complete my Lab-14 parts install.  I did, however, receive some goodies from Global West this week.  I'm still waiting on them to ship me lower control arms though.  Just a little show n tell today...

Viking hybrid coilovers...
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0400_zpsxkharnvk.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0400_zpsxkharnvk.jpg.html)

Global West upper control arms...
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0314_zpsknugfxs3.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0314_zpsknugfxs3.jpg.html)

A little side-by-side of the Global West uppers vs. PTFB uppers...
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0313_zpstw1jz5rr.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0313_zpstw1jz5rr.jpg.html)
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on June 11, 2017, 08:02:47 AM
Good news on the PTFB front.  Dave finally got around to contacting me.  He said he's broken a couple phones over the past couple months and was unable to communicate.  Besides communication issues, he said he is getting the shelves stocked up with parts for his new location reopening.  If anyone wants the new PTFB drop base air cleaners, they're available through Butler Performance. 

On my car, me and Dave working out a deal to finish off the rear suspension and brakes because I bought the GW setup.  For now, I'm holding off on doing the PTFB setup on my '79 subframe.  He still has some designing to finish with his new lower control arms and by avoiding this, it gives him more time to work things out with that.  The '78 subframe will be used for now with the Global West control arms, hybrid coil-over, stock ws6 sway bar, PTFB brake kit and Turn One steering box.  Hopefully within the next 2 months, I will be making a lot of progress with getting my suspension/brakes sorted out. 
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: FormTA on June 11, 2017, 08:08:07 AM
Ah, good news! Glad to hear it.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: NOT A TA on June 11, 2017, 12:44:40 PM
Looking good! Glad to see progress is moving forward.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on June 11, 2017, 03:25:11 PM
Looking good! Glad to see progress is moving forward.

Thanks John!  Your ideas and parts have been a major help with me progressing on finishing my subframe build.  The Lab-14 parts you've developed are a great thing for us F-Body guys.  It's really elevating the quality of how my suspension setup is turning out...no exaggeration there!  I hope we see more people upgrading their frames with your parts. 
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: formula jg on June 15, 2017, 02:37:13 PM
I just completed reading this entire thread and must tip my hat to you for not throwing in the towel with this whole suspension parts/sub-frame ordeal, that's a true testament to Firebird passion.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on June 15, 2017, 07:49:46 PM
I just completed reading this entire thread and must tip my hat to you for not throwing in the towel with this whole suspension parts/sub-frame ordeal, that's a true testament to Firebird passion.

Thank you for the kind words.  I'll admit that it's been very tempting to throw in the towel many times over the past few years of my car being down in project mode.  Like many others, my car does not see the progress I would like to see due to budget reasons.  Money, or lack there of, is mainly why I have not chased down "the best" parts like link suspension, aluminum Pontiac heads, LS/T56, etc.

I'm extremely excited to be trying out parts like the '92-'92 Firehawk wheels, '82-'84 Firebird cowl induction air cleaner, '87 GTA seats, computer HEI and 454 TBI.  Most people are chasing down 4th gen parts for 2nd gen cars these days and for me it's just becoming the norm to see those builds.  I feel that all the 3rd gen stuff I'm doing is making for something different that I haven't seen done before.  Again, budget has forced my build this direction but I've never been as excited as I am now about the build. 
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on June 21, 2017, 09:44:28 PM
Last month, I sent my distributor out to PY member Sun Tuned for a rebuild/service.  He said he's been busy with orders so it took him some time but these are some pictures he sent me today.  I'm very glad I sent it to him after seeing that he's addressing a few issues with it.

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/37876D92-3193-46BF-BBC5-1CD939DB2984_zps35d9mmpz.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/37876D92-3193-46BF-BBC5-1CD939DB2984_zps35d9mmpz.jpg.html)

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/34883BD2-C693-409A-B2B0-ADAF692F72E9_zpsciml74qw.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/34883BD2-C693-409A-B2B0-ADAF692F72E9_zpsciml74qw.jpg.html)

Found a crack here...
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/B933701F-64CD-4DAE-AF69-64F54C21E4E3_zpscewqwesf.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/B933701F-64CD-4DAE-AF69-64F54C21E4E3_zpscewqwesf.jpg.html)

Housing cleaned...
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/7AD7F7FF-912F-46F4-ADBB-A53B32BD065D_zpslqbujra9.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/7AD7F7FF-912F-46F4-ADBB-A53B32BD065D_zpslqbujra9.jpg.html)

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/7E9C9178-8DFC-4D16-A4C6-1D19D8A4C8C6_zpssxhjw8on.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/7E9C9178-8DFC-4D16-A4C6-1D19D8A4C8C6_zpssxhjw8on.jpg.html)

Shaft regreased and shimmed...
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/5E6D6665-7BEF-4DE2-A424-D2770E8AF3D6_zpswjeaez5y.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/5E6D6665-7BEF-4DE2-A424-D2770E8AF3D6_zpswjeaez5y.jpg.html)

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/2475D297-8B7A-423C-B22C-1B180E43D2AF_zpsvhbejtx2.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/2475D297-8B7A-423C-B22C-1B180E43D2AF_zpsvhbejtx2.jpg.html)

Looking pretty clean...
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/ADF5DC33-B4FE-4602-8B7F-4E377F1D6CF4_zpsg62zyqx0.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/ADF5DC33-B4FE-4602-8B7F-4E377F1D6CF4_zpsg62zyqx0.jpg.html)


Also, the Global West lower control arms should be in tomorrow.  I should be fairly well set up for front suspension pretty soon here.

Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on June 22, 2017, 09:36:29 PM
Got some time in after work today to install my Lab-14 upper control arm reinforcement plates.

Started by wire wheeling the control arm area...
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0463_zpsdchgtdem.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0463_zpsdchgtdem.jpg.html)

Got some weld-through primer from my local Oreilly auto parts...
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0466_zpsatopdrri.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0466_zpsatopdrri.jpg.html)

Sprayed the area that's getting welded...
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0468_zpsoxhvgor0.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0468_zpsoxhvgor0.jpg.html)

Sprayed back side of plates then used the Lab-14 supplied locating bolts for set up...
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0467_zps8si7q8qn.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0467_zps8si7q8qn.jpg.html)

Lab-14 plates welded into place...
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0469_zpsbmbr9pee.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0469_zpsbmbr9pee.jpg.html)
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0471_zpsjj5njgw3.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0471_zpsjj5njgw3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on June 25, 2017, 09:37:56 PM
Did a little fitting with the new Global West control arms and finally got around to installing my Lab-14 lower control arm reinforcement plates.  I must say, the control arm tool from Lab-14 was a big help in getting this done smoothly!  Also if anyone else gets these plates, just FYI, you may need grind down the edges slightly so that they fit the frame better.  Either way the fit is great and they really do appear to strengthen this area.

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0484_zpspielby3z.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0484_zpspielby3z.jpg.html)

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0488_zpsbpmhxrcn.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0488_zpsbpmhxrcn.jpg.html)

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0489_zpstbuegtny.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0489_zpstbuegtny.jpg.html)


Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on July 05, 2017, 04:39:48 PM
Since Photobucket has blocked all my pictures, I will stop posting on this thread until further notice. I'm not planning on paying them $399 to upgrade my account but we'll see what happens in the future.  I'm just going to lay low with posting about my project car for now.  I'd love to make faster progress with it but budget is a big hurdle for me at this point.

Thank you for those who have followed, influenced and helped me with my project up until this point.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: Grand73Am on July 05, 2017, 06:09:01 PM
You can post for free with Flickr.com .
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on July 05, 2017, 07:51:09 PM
You can post for free with Flickr.com .

Yes, I've been told by a few people online about Flickr.  I was debating switching over to Flickr before when I was initially having issues with Photobucket ads.  Now, that's what I'm going to have to do.  I'll start over a new thread soon.  It's too much effort to go through and rewrite my threads on all the forums plus I don't have access to a lot of my pictures because they're lost with old phones as well.

We'll get there again.  I'm not saying goodbye to the forums just yet. 
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: formula jg on July 06, 2017, 07:16:23 AM
I was starting to hate using Photobucket with all those freak'n ads.  Just signed up on Flickr but no clue how to upload photos, is there a post here somewhere that gives a 'how to' for Flickr?
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: FormTA on July 06, 2017, 03:32:52 PM
Just continue this thread and start where you left off. I'm hoping someone will sue or they have enough backlash to release the images that are already uploaded.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on July 07, 2017, 07:54:08 AM
Just continue this thread and start where you left off. I'm hoping someone will sue or they have enough backlash to release the images that are already uploaded.

That's an idea...didn't think of that. 

If you or anyone else here are on Facebook, I do have a small Facebook page called F-Body International.  I have some of my old content plus some videos I made.  It's not something I update everyday but I share some different stuff over there that I'm less able to do on the forums.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on July 27, 2017, 02:18:11 PM
Good news on the PTFB front.  Dave finally got around to contacting me.  He said he's broken a couple phones over the past couple months and was unable to communicate.  Besides communication issues, he said he is getting the shelves stocked up with parts for his new location reopening.  If anyone wants the new PTFB drop base air cleaners, they're available through Butler Performance. 

On my car, me and Dave working out a deal to finish off the rear suspension and brakes because I bought the GW setup.  For now, I'm holding off on doing the PTFB setup on my '79 subframe.  He still has some designing to finish with his new lower control arms and by avoiding this, it gives him more time to work things out with that.  The '78 subframe will be used for now with the Global West control arms, hybrid coil-over, stock ws6 sway bar, PTFB brake kit and Turn One steering box.  Hopefully within the next 2 months, I will be making a lot of progress with getting my suspension/brakes sorted out.

Just an update here. I spoke with Dave last week.  The next few weekends he has a race and prepping for Trans Am Nationals.  Hopefully the PTFB parts come through by fall this year. 

I'm going to start a new build thread soon.  I have some nifty parts coming together that I haven't posted about yet.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on September 26, 2017, 03:57:34 PM
I just completed reading this entire thread and must tip my hat to you for not throwing in the towel with this whole suspension parts/sub-frame ordeal, that's a true testament to Firebird passion.

Looks like I'm slightly throwing the towel now.

Not selling my car but I'm posting a bunch parts I have for sale at the moment.  Some nice stuff in the for sale section right now.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: FormTA on October 10, 2017, 07:58:29 PM
Bummer. I enjoyed this thread.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on October 10, 2017, 08:32:01 PM
Bummer. I enjoyed this thread.

Thanks FormTA.  I'll get back at it soon.  Just need to regroup at this point.  This whole thing with PTFB suspension really threw off the direction of my build.  I still have yet to receive lower control arms or any of the coilover hardware.  Everything else was just way too spread out over time to keep me motivated.  I've given up on chasing that down with Dave.  I don't dislike him but I'm just done with "we'll have your stuff done in a couple weeks".  It's been 1.5 years, I spent all my available money and I have little to show.  Hate to say it but I got screwed. 
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: T/A Addict on October 11, 2017, 03:19:38 AM
That is a tough pill to swallow and you have handled it exceedingly well in my opinion. Like you, I work hard for my money, I have a family to support and a fraction of the money you have lost is a lot to me. I can honestly say that I would not have handled it so well myself.
Most of the time regrouping and collecting yourself is very advantageous.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: FormTA on October 11, 2017, 04:51:38 AM
Did a little fitting with the new Global West control arms and finally got around to installing my Lab-14 lower control arm reinforcement plates.  I must say, the control arm tool from Lab-14 was a big help in getting this done smoothly!  Also if anyone else gets these plates, just FYI, you may need grind down the edges slightly so that they fit the frame better.  Either way the fit is great and they really do appear to strengthen this area.

[img width=800
height=600]http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0484_zpspielby3z.jpg~original[/img] (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0484_zpspielby3z.jpg.html)

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0488_zpsbpmhxrcn.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0488_zpsbpmhxrcn.jpg.html)

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/jonathonar89/IMG_0489_zpstbuegtny.jpg~original) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/jonathonar89/media/IMG_0489_zpstbuegtny.jpg.html)

Fixed your last pictures... If you want to go back and fix them just put ~original after .jpg...
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: Grand73Am on October 11, 2017, 07:04:19 AM


Fixed your last pictures... If you want to go back and fix them just put ~original after .jpg...

That's a great tip!! I went back to one of my old posts that had 4 photobucket pics to try it out. I was able to restore all of them quickly using your method. THANKS!!
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on October 11, 2017, 09:18:21 AM
Thanks again FormTA.  That's interesting but man that would be labor intensive for me to fix everything I've posted this forum and all the other forums I go on.  I have this build on Pro-Touring, Thirdgen, 78ta, Yellowbullet, LS1TECH and some other places.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on December 11, 2017, 11:33:41 PM
I just fixed the images in this thread.  Thanks again FormTA! 

Fixing the mess with this car...now that's a different story. 
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: Grand73Am on December 15, 2017, 01:53:46 PM
Glad you fixed them! A lot of good pics here.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on January 14, 2018, 09:35:37 AM
Ok, I figured I would fill some slight updates with me and where I'm at on the car just to keep the thread going.  Over this past month, I've sold my PTFB subframe/suspension, BOP valley pan, Holley intake, SPR TBI, and some other things.  Last month I decided to pull the trigger on going back to school to get a Master's degree so I'm pretty much back to being a broke college kid.  On my daily driver '98 Trans Am, I've had issues with brakes developing a leak, engine overheated 1 day and check engine light just came on.  Since that has been popping up, that car is getting a new set or brakes, full exhaust, wheels and some other maintenance related items over this upcoming month.

Amongst all the crazy expenditures (atleast for my budget) of school and repair/upgrades on the daily, I did pick up a couple parts for my '79 this week. 
-On Craigslist, I found a good condition '78 iron intake manifold along with a good condition stock valley pan.
-On Facebook, I found a 454 TBI that came with a NOS nitrous plate.

Here's the story behind the TBI that I just picked up.  The guy who had it got off a truck he bought from a lady.  Apparently her son went to jail so she pretty much sold the truck to him for pennies.  Since he had converted it to carburetor, I asked him about the TBI and he said he wasn't sure about the condition so he said he'd give it to me for free because he'd feel bad selling something with problems.  For $22 shipping, I ended up giving him $25 total for his honesty and me taking a risk on an unknown item.

Since I got it on Friday, I've disassembled it, soaked some parts in CLR and reassembled hand tight.  Once I get around to selling some more of my extra parts, I'll probably send this one off to SPR Performance so that it can get modified like the other one I had done. 

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4710/27907382649_9053300221_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Jw5CzP)New BBC TBI (https://flic.kr/p/Jw5CzP) by Jonathon Randolph (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156619454@N04/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4662/38976699934_abbb072571_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22oeLXQ)New BBC TBI (https://flic.kr/p/22oeLXQ) by Jonathon Randolph (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156619454@N04/), on Flickr

Top view of the nitrous plate sitting on top of the GM quadrajet adapter...
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4701/27907382499_0d51c753f1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Jw5Cxe)New BBC TBI (https://flic.kr/p/Jw5Cxe) by Jonathon Randolph (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156619454@N04/), on Flickr

Cleaned up a slight amount...
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4721/24816827527_7c439bff85_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DNYJdF)New BBC TBI (https://flic.kr/p/DNYJdF) by Jonathon Randolph (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156619454@N04/), on Flickr


Terrible looking picture here but I have degreased and brushed a lot of grime off this this thing.  I tried doing this with CLR and it didn't work too well.  I pretty much just figured out that it's a great home cleaning product for calcium, lime and rust like the bottle says but it's not good for greasy car parts.  Either way, I still made process with it.  I may try it over again with Evapo Rust just to see how that works.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4719/39685561241_7309ed8d48_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23sSSJv)New BBC TBI (https://flic.kr/p/23sSSJv) by Jonathon Randolph (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156619454@N04/), on Flickr
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on January 15, 2018, 10:50:15 PM
Here's a fun little project I did earlier this year while I was down with regards to the photobucket issue. 

-Started with some out-of-the-box PTFB body mounts.
-Disassembled
-Primered
-Painted OER brand chassis black
-Waterproof grease applied to the steel sleeve and inside of the pucks
-Reassembled

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4705/39687053192_49028770dd_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23t1weN)PTFB body mounts painted black (https://flic.kr/p/23t1weN) by Jonathon Randolph (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156619454@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4709/39008964154_126470e697_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22r68Zu)PTFB body mounts painted black (https://flic.kr/p/22r68Zu) by Jonathon Randolph (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156619454@N04/), on Flickr
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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on March 03, 2018, 05:24:57 PM
Been fairly busy with school over this past month but I figured I'd post small update.  Today I got around to drilling out my frame for the Lab-14 ARP upper control arm studs, disassembled most of my control arms parts and did some garage cleaning.

Earlier, this past week, I ordered some parts to rebuild my stock control arms.
-AFCO steel upper control arm bushings
-AFCO steel and nylon lower control arm bushings
-Moog offset upper cross shaft
-QA1 +1" extended length upper ball joints
-QA1 +.5" extended length lower ball joints

Also, I just picked up a few little pieces for my Weller soldering iron so I can start working on my Megasquirt board soon.

Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on July 14, 2018, 04:18:26 PM
Wow, been 4+ months since I've posted on this thread!  Have had some crazy stuff come up that I haven't talked about much here. 

My wife and I just purchased a small townhouse so I will be forced to get my car back on 4 wheels in order to move it.  I will probably buy a suspension kit by the end of the month. 

My built W72 engine was given away by a family member to cover a personal debt.  Long story that ticked me off...my engine was pretty much stolen lightly.  After my engine ordeal, I sold my Pontiac EFI parts and ended up buying a 4.8 "LS" engine from a truck.  I'm a Pontiac guy through-and-through, but I got a 4.8 LS engine with computer and a 2nd gen rear end delivered to my house for $525...got a real good deal there after being ripped off.  I know the picture is pretty "bare" below, but I have all the wiring, intake, exhaust, etc.  The header's are for my '98 so please disregard that ;)
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Yesterday I picked up a set of 16x8 Convex '84-'86 Trans Am wheels for $80 in order to move my car.  I just got them as rollers but I think I will try to run them now.  With some research, I found these wheels started on the '84 15th Anniversary Trans Am, were used in '85-'86 for T/A and then phased out of production on '87 Formula cars.  After seeing "Made in Germany" on the inside of the wheel, I think these are much cooler now.  I was surprised by that...assumed these wheels would've been built elsewhere.
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Also, just snatched up an On3 Turbocharger and will be attempting to build a turbo setup.  I helped a buddy of mine build a turbo for his 6.0 truck a few years ago so hopefully that experience will help carry over to my car.  I'm figuring with my Turbo 4.9 hood...a 4.8 LS engine with a turbo fits the bill here.

Besides collecting parts, I've mainly been concentrated on school, working 2 jobs and going through this home purchase process.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on July 15, 2018, 03:51:46 AM
Update

After making the previous post yesterday, I decided to call Dave from Pro-Touring F-Body.  I told him my situation that I’m moving so I need to get my car back on all 4 wheels and rolling.  I’m glad I was quick to call him there as I found out he’s going to be in town at the end of this week and can deliver personally so we don’t have to pay shipping.  Ended up placing the following order with PTFB...
-GT Pro Suspension kit with matched shocks
-Solid body mounts
-Complete steering rebuild kit
-Afco lower control arm bushings

Also, I traced down a pair of B-Body spindles on my local Craigslist so I will be chasing those down this evening after work.  Pretty much going with the budget 1LE brake upgrade to finish off with getting the car rolling.

This is crazy.  All the different setups I have bounced around with on this car.  We’re back at suspension and brakes again.  This time around, however, I’m going with the cheapest and most cost effective route.  I will have to continue building the car in this manner. 

Pics will come again soon...
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on July 22, 2018, 10:14:05 AM
Got some updates this week.

-Dave from PTFB came through and dropped off my suspension parts.
-After Dave came by, I got my control arms fully disassembled.  Once I got them dissassembled, I fitted up the AFCO lower control arm bushings in the frame and tack welded the sleeves in.  Those things are awesome!
-Frame, suspension and other engine bay parts should be getting dropped off for sandblasting this week.
-Finished welding in my Lab-14 lower control arm reinforcements.   

Some more parts ordered...
-UMI LS swap brackets.
-U-Pol Raptor Liner kit
-U-Pol Raptor Epoxy Primer Kit
-Lanolin wax kit for rust proofing the insides of cavities.
-621 Bellhousing for using a 4spd trans behind the LS
-'79-'81 WS6 backing plates from Facebook
-Hawk HPS front pads
-1LE front rotors


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Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: NOT A TA on July 22, 2018, 11:40:33 AM
Congrats on the new home!  Good to see you're making progress on the car.
Title: Re: '79 400 4spd
Post by: jonathonar89 on July 22, 2018, 12:32:49 PM
Congrats on the new home!  Good to see you're making progress on the car.

Thanks John!  Hope all is well with you.  I wasn't trying to get into house at this point in time but it's more-so just happening.  This is pretty much what has forced me spend the money to get the car rolling again.  Since I'm doing all of this rather sudden, it has lead me to chase down the best parts I can get while staying on a low budget.  Besides the PTFB springs/shocks, AFCO bushings and some other things, I will be using GM supplied parts for the most part. 

I'm really excited to see how everything works out with the stock style 1LE front and WS6 rear brakes.  I have the master cylinder that Dave supplies so we're going to try it as a manual setup. 

One thing I'm wondering about is whether or not I'm going to need longer control arm studs like you supplied for Zack's Camaro.  Even though I have offset cross shafts for the upper arms, Dave was saying that I will probably need a lot of shims for a good alignment due to the +.5" lower and +1" upper ball joints.  We will have to see how much clearance I have once the engine is positioned in the frame.