Powerplants => The Formulas => Topic started by: 71455formula on October 25, 2011, 10:09:35 AM

Title: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 25, 2011, 10:09:35 AM
Hey everyone. My name is Ben and. I am restoring a 71 Formula. It was an original silver car. It was a 350, 4 speed, and 3.42 car. I have the original 350 for the car, but not gonna use it. Came across a better setup. Power steering and power brakes and no a/c. Just a little over 39,000 miles on it. I haven't sent off for phs yet, so don't know everything about the car. The second owner tells me that it was a pretty fast car. Someone also put ttops in it before he got it. Those will be gone. I'll post pics as I go through the car. On that note. How do I do that?
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: mrbandit on October 25, 2011, 11:03:13 AM
Here is the link to phs http://www.phs-online.com/order.htm (http://www.phs-online.com/order.htm)
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 25, 2011, 07:17:39 PM
Thanks for the PHS info. How do I get pictures on here? Thanks.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Dreamn2 on October 25, 2011, 07:40:28 PM
You must upload them to a photo hosting site and link the here.Photo bucket has an option to copy/paste links on other websites. Just copy the box with the [img] around the text and paste it to your post here.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on October 25, 2011, 08:30:35 PM
Sounds like a great car.
photobucket.com  is my favourite site for hosting pics...its free, and you can host lots of pics on there.
Just go to the site and follow the directions to sign up....hint, use the "bulk uploader" for pics..its quicker.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 26, 2011, 08:27:36 AM
Thanks for the info. I'll takea a shot at it today after work.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: fiream773 on October 26, 2011, 08:41:50 AM
Hi, Ben - welcome to TAC!  Your '71 sounds sweet.  I guess I'll have to do some homework - I thought '73 was the first year you could get a 350 in a Formula.  I have a '73 Formula 350 I'm currently tinkering with:

http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=46792.0

Post some pics when you get a chance!
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Aldo on October 26, 2011, 04:24:37 PM
Welcome hope you work those pics in some time.love those years,i cant wait to see it.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 26, 2011, 06:01:52 PM
Got some pics. Someone painted it a brown color sometime ago. Most of the quarter panels was sheet metal rivited onto the car. Tail panel isn't not that bad, but at least they're making new ones.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/DSC00224.jpg)
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Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 26, 2011, 06:13:57 PM
Heres where I'm on the car now.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/ben_9.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/0072.jpg)
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Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Dreamn2 on October 26, 2011, 07:31:05 PM
Looks like your doing a very nice, quality job. Good luck and keep us updated.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: mrbandit on October 27, 2011, 12:31:07 PM
Cutting the dash VIN out is illegal in most states.  I trust you'll be putting the original dash metal back?
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 27, 2011, 01:20:15 PM
Yes it will be put back. Have to replace the cowl.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on October 27, 2011, 02:28:16 PM
Wow, ver ynice piece of work....well, done!
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 28, 2011, 09:00:18 AM
Cool thing is that I have a 71 455 sitting at the house. What makes it even better is 71 H.O. heads and intake I have for the car. Just need the exhaust manifolds from ram air restorations and I'll be good to go.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on October 28, 2011, 01:12:26 PM
Sweet, all the right gear!
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 30, 2011, 03:11:11 PM
Figure if I'm gonna restore the car. Might as well do it with the right stuff, because I can't or wouldn't be able to afford a real 455 H.O. car.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on December 14, 2011, 12:21:30 PM
Got the subframe home the other day. Gotta repair the holes for the body bushings. Also got the new tail panel the other day too. Looks like its gonna be a good fit. Also got more pics of the car and what needs to be fixed.

 Subframe is actually in great shape.
 (http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0330.jpg)

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 Here's the 3 holes that are bad.
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The tailpanel. Hopefully it fits as good as it looks.
 (http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0325-1.jpg)

Here's some of the other pics of the car that needs repair.
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Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 72blackbird on December 14, 2011, 04:54:41 PM
What happened to the Hurst t-tops? I had some on my first Firebird, a 77 SE T/A, but think they look period correct on earlier Birds because they are smaller.

Geno
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on December 14, 2011, 07:57:10 PM
Figure if I'm gonna restore the car. Might as well do it with the right stuff, because I can't or wouldn't be able to afford a real 455 H.O. car.

I feel the same way...I can have a nice car that looks like a Formula455 without having to pay for a 455HO car...which I can't afford anyway, lol.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on December 14, 2011, 08:50:45 PM
The hurst ttops were an after market kit from someone like car concepts. I don't like ttops on the 2nd or 3rd gens. They leak too much. As for the tops themselves....one had a crack across it and there was bubbles in the other one. Course the 455 I'm putting together would probably twist the body with ttops in it.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 72blackbird on December 15, 2011, 12:05:16 AM
A 455 in a 70-73 Firebird just seems like a very natural thing- mine is waiting for me at PPR, too bad I won't be able to pick it up until after New Years.
It's not like I'd even be able to build it when I pick it up- a customer brought back his 65 GTO and his 389 needs emergency surgery, so I'll be overhauling that before even touch my 455.

Geno
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Bandit1977 on December 18, 2011, 01:21:15 AM
Is that a new firewall you're putting in?
Are they making repro firewalls now?

Ken D
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on December 18, 2011, 09:12:18 AM
Is that a new firewall you're putting in? Are they making repro firewalls now?


No. It's the original. I lucked out and it is in great shape. Im not sure if they're makin repros of the firewall or not.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on December 31, 2011, 07:52:28 AM
Got some updated pics. Think he said he would have the trunk pan yesterday and might have the tail panel done this weekend.

 (http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/Mobile%20Uploads/017-1.jpg)

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Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on December 31, 2011, 03:09:03 PM
Looks real nice sitting in there......isn't it great that we can get this stuff for our cars?
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on December 31, 2011, 04:35:31 PM
Wish the braces that go from the trunk floor to the tail panel were reproduced. The ones on the car are bad, so we gotta make some. The fun stuff. Making stuff. Here's the worst part. I was on my way home from Tennessee towing a friend on mines 74 ta to Florida and my 455HO heads when the trans decided to quit on me. Clutches let go. Luckily the trans is still under warrany, but I gotta get it back to Florida. It was a built 4l65.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on December 31, 2011, 08:42:48 PM
Well, that sucks...its always a worry towing something with an auto trans. You've got a cooler on it?
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on December 31, 2011, 10:54:38 PM
Yea. It's got a cooler on it. The one they sent with the trans. I think this time I'm gonna put a bigger one on there. See how that goes. Whats weird to me is the pcm on the truck didn't say anything about over heating AMD go into limp mode to cool the trans.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on January 01, 2012, 01:48:49 PM
Sounds like the build was faulty then....something let go, rather than overheated.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on January 01, 2012, 05:07:14 PM
Yea. I looked at the converter and its not blued, so I think the clutches gave out. Less then 12k on it.

At least my car is moving along. He likes how well the tail panel and the inner tail panel(the metal ones) fit. He wishes they'd make more panels that fit like these. Just about everything lined up without much effort.

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Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Dreamn2 on January 01, 2012, 09:38:59 PM
Glad to hear they fit nice. I will have to be purchasing one soon.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on January 02, 2012, 01:48:03 PM
Yea. It fits good.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on January 05, 2012, 10:20:50 PM
Here's the heart(455), lungs(H.O heads and intake), and the brains(cam). Waiting on the rotating assembly still.

 (http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0346.jpg)

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Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on January 06, 2012, 02:31:20 AM
Are you going to keep the cast iron crossover for the exhaust....or make up some block off plates?
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on January 06, 2012, 07:26:54 AM
Haven't decided yet. Thought about making a small plate to block it off and still use the cross over to make still look stock.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on January 06, 2012, 07:54:09 PM
If it gets cold where you live, another guy on Performance Years was having trouble with his car between the time the electric choke pulled off, and full engine warm up....was getting fuel drop out due to the cold and not having the exhaust crossover fitted (same manifold you're running)....just a thought if you do winter driving.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: gm nut on January 07, 2012, 08:16:08 AM
Lookin good, what brand panels did you use??
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on January 07, 2012, 08:34:30 PM
I got them from a company called auto metal direct, but they came in goodmark boxes. Here's the address.

 https://www.autometaldirect.com/?option=com_netlinkbridge&view=makemodelyear&Itemid=111&prod_cat=&selectedcat=&type=items&selectedmake=Pontiac&selectedmodel=Firebird&level1=52&level2=595&level3=1971
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on January 16, 2012, 08:02:43 PM
Well. Found out what happened to the trans in my truck. The pump broke in which stopped pumping and fried the clutches. Oops.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: fiream773 on January 17, 2012, 09:16:15 AM
Well. Found out what happened to the trans in my truck. The pump broke in which stopped pumping and fried the clutches. Oops.

Yep.  That'll do it.  :x
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: baxter on January 17, 2012, 11:37:22 PM
Lookin' good!
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on January 18, 2012, 02:28:36 PM
Thanks. Can't wait till its done. I space out a lot and think what's it gonna be like when I can drive it.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on March 19, 2012, 04:13:01 PM
Hey yall. Was able to get some work done on the car recently. Got the windshield frame moving along.

 (http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/frame_13.jpg)

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Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on March 20, 2012, 01:43:22 PM
Yep, getting some good progress there!  :cool:
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on March 20, 2012, 06:50:08 PM
It's slow, but will be worth it when its done. Can't wait.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Eddie on April 18, 2012, 03:43:09 PM
WoW You have a big project there! looks like your doing a Great job on it. So glad I'm in Az were we don't have to mess with all the rust.....
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on April 20, 2012, 08:34:30 PM
It definitely would've been nice not havin this much rust. I figure with me doin this car this way; I can check that real car guy box off  and do a frame off on it. Go to car shows and say I did it(except metal work and paint; want that done right).
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on July 16, 2012, 04:06:04 PM
Yeah! He's gettin back to my car. He's also working a few 69 camaros. One of the most annoying cars out there cause everyone has one or wants one. <--Just my opinion.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: roadking77 on July 16, 2012, 06:05:00 PM
Yeah! He's gettin back to my car. He's also working a few 69 camaros. One of the most annoying cars out there cause everyone has one or wants one. <--Just my opinion.
Agree! seems like chevy must have made a million of them.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: fiream773 on July 17, 2012, 06:05:47 AM
Yeah! He's gettin back to my car. He's also working a few 69 camaros. One of the most annoying cars out there cause everyone has one or wants one. <--Just my opinion.
Agree! seems like chevy must have made a million of them.

X3.  My epiphany came in the early 90's while attending Carl Casper's Custom Auto Show.  I think I counted 30 '69 Camaros - all of which were either SS's or Z28's (real or not, don't know) and were either Hugger Orange or '87 IROC blue.  Every one of them had chevy rally wheels & white or black stereo stripes.  There was no variety to be found despite the fact that in '69 there were literally hundreds of possible color/option/drivetrain choices.  An exercise in same-ness.  Boooor-ing! :-?
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on July 17, 2012, 04:33:20 PM
lol...thats exactly why I couldn't bring myself to paint my 71 the factory colour.
Every early 2nd gen around here (Camaro or Firebird) appears to be painted red.....and my car was originally Cardinal Red, lol.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on August 16, 2012, 04:57:13 PM
Hey hey. He started working the quarters yesterday. Gonna see it tomorrow after work while I'm on my way to get some tuning done on my Z71.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on August 26, 2012, 01:39:44 AM
Got some stuff done to the car.

 (http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/get-attachment.jpg)

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 (http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/IMAG0102.jpg)

 (http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/IMAG0101.jpg)

It's gettin closer. Kinda gettin antsy about it.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: roadking77 on August 26, 2012, 08:38:21 AM
Lookin good. I put on the dr. side quarter myself last night. I know what you mean about getting antsy. There's still a lot to do though. :-(
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: steve v on September 07, 2012, 08:47:37 PM
Looks like great progress!  :D It won't be long before you're getting color on it.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on September 08, 2012, 02:22:55 AM
Hey...nice work!!!!
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on September 08, 2012, 11:02:24 AM
Thanks. I think I have the color picked out, but I'm still workin on it.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 19, 2012, 05:55:16 PM
We are finally getting somewhere!

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/IMAG0102.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/069.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/070.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/073.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/075.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/078.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/079.jpg)
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on October 19, 2012, 06:15:12 PM
Looking a lot cleaner...aren't rotisseries just the best!  :lol:
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 19, 2012, 06:38:26 PM
That they do.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Jack on October 19, 2012, 06:56:53 PM
Very nice.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 21, 2012, 07:12:33 PM
Thanks.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on December 17, 2012, 06:57:52 PM
Got 2 more pictures.

When we started working the fender we found some sheet metal rivited in place. Well. That just won't do.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/get-attachment-3_zps04d09518.jpeg)


Got the front clip started. Also got the paint mixed up too, but yall have to wait to see the color.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/get-attachment-4-1_zps4a002162.jpeg)
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on December 18, 2012, 07:16:07 AM
Coming along nicely, doesn't seem too long ago mine looked like that.  :lol:
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: bigdannyt on January 15, 2013, 12:01:14 AM
Looks like its moving along nice.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: nwrclint2000 on January 15, 2013, 08:25:20 AM
Great work so far! About how many hours did it take to do the rear trunk pan and quarters?
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on January 15, 2013, 09:18:13 PM
I don't know how many hours it took him. Maybe 2-3 days. Not sure though. All that matters to me is that he's doin a dam good job on the car. While the floor pan was off he upgraded the leaf spring forward spring bolts from the 3/8's to 7/16's and fully welded them in.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: HairyWBush on January 28, 2013, 10:00:46 PM
1971 LS5 Formula (under the knife right now)
What happened to the Pontiac engine?
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on January 29, 2013, 07:45:21 AM
That is the Pontiac engine.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: wwilder9 on February 13, 2013, 06:29:11 PM
Looks Great so far.  :D
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on February 14, 2013, 06:14:47 AM
Thanks. I should be off work tomorrow and get to mess with it some more.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: richduty455 on February 14, 2013, 02:12:53 PM
ls5 was also code for 455 HO
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on February 16, 2013, 08:22:19 AM
I got the engine and trans in place set at the right angles and next week we'll be fabbing the trans crossmember. Gonna also install the shifter hump too. Once that's all done...time to separate the subframe from the body; blast it and paint the subframe. Roll the body over on a rotisserie and do the same on the belly of the car. Then paint finally. I got some pics ill try and post them here in a few day.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on March 15, 2013, 07:59:13 PM
Question for those with a 70-71 Firebird. The nose emblems. I prefit the nose emblem and I noticed that it has a small gap at the center. The wings are touching, but the tail and head of the bird don't. It's not a big gap but its there. I might be able to get a dime to slide under, but it would be tight. Does anyone else have this problem, seen it or is it normal? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Jack on March 15, 2013, 08:05:57 PM
Mine does not have one, but the gap should not be that much.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on March 16, 2013, 07:51:04 PM
Here's the gap I got on the emblem.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/IMAG0252_zpsd6fa2fb0.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/IMAG0253_zps623ea4b4.jpg)


We got the crossmember fabbed up finally. Set it up to be easily removed.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/get-attachment-52_zps5c19dcc4.jpeg)

Got the fenders ready.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/IMAG0246_zpseb795abe.jpg)
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Pontiacnut7077 on March 16, 2013, 08:39:20 PM
I ran out to my garage and snapped a few pics for you. Sorry...the flash on my camera isn't the greatest. My emblem is tight at the tail and head. My emblem is an original. Is yours one of the reproductions?

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q23/Pontiacnut7077/70%20Formula%20-%20Blue/IMG_20130316_222218_804_zps6dd03b27.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q23/Pontiacnut7077/70%20Formula%20-%20Blue/IMG_20130316_222311_850_zpsab5b4674.jpg)

BTW...great progress on your car. Keep it up! :)


Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on March 16, 2013, 10:11:27 PM
It's an OER piece. I'm satisfied with the looks, but I'm not too happy with the fitment. Had to open the the holes that goes through the nose a little bit so it would go all the way down. (Giggity)

Thanks. I hope it turns out as good as I've got it pictured in my head.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on March 17, 2013, 01:57:50 AM
I used the OER badge as well...and it fitted exactly like your pics.
My panel guy built up a little more hi-fill just under the badge and shaped it to fit.....its not perfect, but its better.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on March 17, 2013, 01:34:08 PM
I'm sending the pics to OER to see what they think. I believe it should fit better than what it does.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on March 20, 2013, 07:01:49 PM
Contacted OER and they asked for pics. Sent them and waiting to hear back. Maybe they'll do something about it.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on March 22, 2013, 10:36:51 AM
Got a response from OER......

 Thanks for the pictures. I can definitely see the problem, although we do not stock the front nose for your firebird, it is special order so we have no way of checking for fitment with our inventory to determine what the solution is. If you are unsatisfied return it to the dealer you purchased it from for a refund and we will refund them. Sorry.


Guess I gotta decide what to do. Fill it like Leigh did or just run it as is.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on April 12, 2013, 02:57:34 PM
Been tdy in Texas for the last few weeks so I haven't been up to see the car, but he sent me a pic of the subframe.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/get-attachment-6_zps8c0edebb.jpeg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/get-attachment-6_zps8c0edebb.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on July 07, 2013, 02:03:29 PM
Got soe updated pics. Really close. These are from about 3 weeks ago before I went tdy. Won't see the car till I'm back in February/March time frame.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/get-attachment3_zps3cedb649.jpeg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/get-attachment3_zps3cedb649.jpeg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/get-attachment-13_zps8acc6f59.jpeg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/get-attachment-13_zps8acc6f59.jpeg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/get-attachment-43_zps2079658a.jpeg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/get-attachment-43_zps2079658a.jpeg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/get-attachment-33_zps023eda94.jpeg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/get-attachment-33_zps023eda94.jpeg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/get-attachment-23_zps7087ae0f.jpeg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/get-attachment-23_zps7087ae0f.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on August 20, 2013, 09:37:34 PM
Yeppers. I'm still in Afghanistan and the car is still at the painters. He did say it shouldn't be much longer. Hopefully by the time I get home; she'll be there.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on September 02, 2013, 07:19:24 AM
I got some current pics from the painter the other day. I'll post them up after I eat dinner. Yea! Kandahar dfac. Lol
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on September 02, 2013, 08:55:09 AM
Here we go. This was as of last weekend. He said he got the rest of it primed. No he's working on the small parts making sure there right.

Hood was originally off a lucerne blue car which is cool. And yes someone had hood pins in it.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/002_zps6e2a2706.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/002_zps6e2a2706.jpg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/005_zps3b4bb105.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/005_zps3b4bb105.jpg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/007_zps2a3a24de.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/007_zps2a3a24de.jpg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/008_zpsdb6f157c.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/008_zpsdb6f157c.jpg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/009_zps3a1261db.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/009_zps3a1261db.jpg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/010_zps62314a8d.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/010_zps62314a8d.jpg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/010_zps62314a8d.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/010_zps62314a8d.jpg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/011_zps8d459d3d.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/011_zps8d459d3d.jpg.html)

Can't wait.







Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 73RedFormula400 on September 02, 2013, 11:26:11 AM
Looks great and thats OK   Im having hood pins installed in mine next week 8)
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: fiream773 on September 02, 2013, 08:08:17 PM
Oh man.  Pure body shop porn - I wanna paint my '73 Formula so bad!

There will be no better "thank you" for your service to our country than firing that sucker up after you come home - but I'll offer one up anyway...

THANK YOU FOR SERVING!
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on September 02, 2013, 10:29:17 PM
Yall are welcome. I definitely enjoy the military.

When I get back to the house.....the car will be there, but I still have to put everything in it and on it. Still gotta order the rotating assembly, rebuild the trans, wheels, and get a bunch of other parts. So I hope to have it up by next spring, but I'm not sure I will. Gonna do what I can to get it done. We shall see.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on September 06, 2013, 09:52:54 AM
Painter said he's going to be undercoating the car this weekend and maybe putting color down on her.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on September 07, 2013, 04:11:02 AM
Painter got this done yesterday.

Got the chin spoiler installed. We didn't like how it mounted originally, so we made adjustments to make it better. I added it due to make it seem like an option on the Formula if you got the rear deck spoiler. Not putting the rear wheel spoilers cause those should be T/A only.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/get-attachment-18_zpseb1b010d.jpeg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/get-attachment-18_zpseb1b010d.jpeg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/get-attachment-30_zps36fdc2a3.jpeg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/get-attachment-30_zps36fdc2a3.jpeg.html)

Got the firewall, wheel wells, and underhood in black.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/get-attachment-17_zpsde7cdfba.jpeg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/get-attachment-17_zpsde7cdfba.jpeg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/get-attachment-21_zps32e667b2.jpeg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/get-attachment-21_zps32e667b2.jpeg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/get-attachment-28_zpsd60a23ee.jpeg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/get-attachment-28_zpsd60a23ee.jpeg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/get-attachment-20_zps22f2e1ed.jpeg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/get-attachment-20_zps22f2e1ed.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Jack on September 07, 2013, 05:34:48 AM
Looking very nice.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on September 07, 2013, 05:35:11 AM
Looks great!
I wasn't going to put any spoilers on my 71, but I added the T/A front centre spoiler because these cars lift the nose at speed and I thought they really need a front spoiler.
You car is going to look awesome!
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on September 07, 2013, 06:11:08 AM
Thanks yall. The rear window was installed. I thought about putting all the spoilers on it, but though it would be too much.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on September 07, 2013, 01:20:10 PM
lol...You have a Formula...leave the spoilers for the T/A guys and girls....otherwise people will just think your car is a T/A.  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on September 09, 2013, 09:58:55 AM
Nah. It'll definitely not be confused for a T/A.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 1blk1 on September 09, 2013, 12:07:44 PM

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/get-attachment-30_zps36fdc2a3.jpeg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/get-attachment-30_zps36fdc2a3.jpeg.html)

that will look badazz, the front flares go great with that hood, best of both worlds
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on September 10, 2013, 10:19:26 AM
Got the inside of the trunk lid painted and the windshield channels painted. It's close. Thinking this weekend painted and to the garage next weekend.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on September 11, 2013, 01:17:57 AM
Colour?
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on September 19, 2013, 12:04:22 AM
Here's the answer to your question Leigh and to all those that are wondering.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/0012_zps6ec7e8ff.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/0012_zps6ec7e8ff.jpg.html)

It's a red head. 1999 Porcshe Guards Red. He's Just gotta let it finish drying, then buff, then assemble, and then to te house.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on September 19, 2013, 02:18:03 AM
wow, Guards Red....one of the classic colours...nice choice!  :cool:
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on September 19, 2013, 08:25:33 AM
Thanks. She's gonna be one sexy lady when she's back together.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Pontiacnut7077 on September 19, 2013, 09:09:28 PM
Looks great! :)
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on September 19, 2013, 09:33:39 PM
A hood shot before it's buffed. I don't think it needs it, but hey. I'll take it. The camera is throwing the color off a little to the orange side, but it is red.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/0023_zps6a7961aa.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/0023_zps6a7961aa.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on September 20, 2013, 04:03:35 PM
WOW.....maybe I should have gone red after all.....  :shock: :lol:
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on September 20, 2013, 08:37:38 PM
Wait till you see that color outside. It gives a whole new meaning to "arrest me red."
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Jack on September 21, 2013, 04:15:51 AM
Wait till you see that color outside. It gives a whole new meaning to "arrest me red."

I can't wait :-D
That will look stunning at dusk just after the sun sets.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on September 21, 2013, 08:07:48 AM
The painter says as the paint is curing it's getting redder.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Jack on September 21, 2013, 08:26:22 AM
Even better, and I thought you were going for something boring like white.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on September 21, 2013, 10:07:04 AM
A buddy of mine has an early 73 4 speed TA that's white and no eagle on the hood. I'd like to get ahold of that white one. Maybe when this one is done I'll try to snag it up. Matching numbers and all.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 10, 2013, 09:26:44 AM
Hey yall. I'm still in Afghanistan, but the car is finally comin home. Should be there tonight(Thursday). I'll try to get a pic of it later.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 11, 2013, 06:03:59 AM
The car is at the house finally. We decided to leave the front clip loose so that when I'm ready to install the engine and trans I can take it apart and we only have to adjust the front clip once.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/014_zps0e6ee8f1.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/014_zps0e6ee8f1.jpg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/013_zps48388a60.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/013_zps48388a60.jpg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/012_zpsaaed273f.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/012_zpsaaed273f.jpg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/011_zps3e2e4102.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/011_zps3e2e4102.jpg.html)


Once I get back to the states I'll be starting to put her together. One more thing. She ain't no trailer queen.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Pontiacnut7077 on October 12, 2013, 04:54:40 AM
That looks great! Can't wait to see more progress. Your doing a great job. :)
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Jack on October 12, 2013, 05:00:31 AM
Just beautiful.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on October 12, 2013, 04:34:05 PM
Thats a knockout!!!!
Now I'm wishing I'd painted mine it's stock colour of Cardinal Red, lol.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 13, 2013, 04:28:12 AM
Thanks yall. Yours looks really good in that color Leigh.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Jack on October 13, 2013, 04:39:53 AM
Do you know why they did not take out the fender vent prior to painting it (I know it is a pain in the behind) I just hope it was prep’ed and it will not cause issues in the future.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on October 13, 2013, 01:38:07 PM
Jack, check the pics on the last page....the fenders were painted with the vents out.
My painter did mine the same way.....I don't think you could get a good finish trying to paint them assembled.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: baxter on October 31, 2013, 06:03:48 PM
so awesome!
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on November 01, 2013, 05:36:46 AM
That's what a few of my buddies have said since they can see it in person and I cannot. A$$ O's. lol
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on January 03, 2014, 04:58:58 PM
Hey yall. I know its has been awhile since any update, but I'll have some updated pics this weekend.  Have had issues with the fitment of some of the replacement parts.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on January 03, 2014, 07:01:30 PM
Have had issues with the fitment of some of the replacement parts.

Yeah, story of just about everyone's restoration, right there...... look forward to the pics  :grin:
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on January 05, 2014, 05:56:12 PM
Here yall go. Some updated pics. Waiting for the back seats to be recovered, the front seat covers to be made, and the steering column to be finished.


(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/Mobile%20Uploads/20140104_171622_zpsab74d10d.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140104_171622_zpsab74d10d.jpg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/Mobile%20Uploads/20140104_170739_zps557b0c7d.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140104_170739_zps557b0c7d.jpg.html)


(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/Mobile%20Uploads/20140104_170701_zpsf87ed009.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140104_170701_zpsf87ed009.jpg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/Mobile%20Uploads/20140103_170018_zpsbcc8b21c.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140103_170018_zpsbcc8b21c.jpg.html)


(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/Mobile%20Uploads/20140104_170643_zps32548c52.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140104_170643_zps32548c52.jpg.html)


(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/Mobile%20Uploads/20140104_170624_zps40e3820d.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140104_170624_zps40e3820d.jpg.html)

Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: LeighP on January 05, 2014, 09:19:47 PM
Nice...real nice!!!!  :cool: :grin:
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Jack on January 05, 2014, 09:22:09 PM
A rear console as well :cool: that's going to be one hell of a car.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on January 05, 2014, 10:05:59 PM
Thanks guys. The rear console is not a repro. It's GM.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on March 09, 2014, 07:06:42 PM
Got to mess the car today and starting to look like a car. Now I need to get it on the ground to line everything up propery. I'll get some pics up later this week.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Updated71 on April 27, 2014, 11:15:15 AM
What kind of seats did you use? 
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on April 27, 2014, 01:57:35 PM
Sorry to all. Haven't had time to get updated pics of the progress with getting ready for a pcs.

Front seats are pro cars and the backs will be the stock, but the same pattern as the front. When I get those back I'll post pics of everything.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on June 21, 2014, 01:15:46 PM
Well. I didn't get the seats or steering column back before I left for this deployment. Oh well. Always next year. Here's what I got so far.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/20140101_190306_LLS_zps4b27104a.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/20140101_190306_LLS_zps4b27104a.jpg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/20140103_165944_zpsd7e9f9ee.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/20140103_165944_zpsd7e9f9ee.jpg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/20140103_170018_zpsa98c75d9.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/20140103_170018_zpsa98c75d9.jpg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/20140315_154244_zpsc9daf92f.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/20140315_154244_zpsc9daf92f.jpg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/20140315_154254_zps87342e22.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/20140315_154254_zps87342e22.jpg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/20140315_154307_zps09a11e85.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/20140315_154307_zps09a11e85.jpg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/20140412_135648_zpsa3be3b11.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/20140412_135648_zpsa3be3b11.jpg.html)








Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Jack on June 21, 2014, 08:12:26 PM
Now that's a car :-D
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on June 26, 2014, 04:14:02 PM
I appreciate it. I'm hoping that it turns out the way I have it pictured in my head.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 72blackbird on June 26, 2014, 07:06:07 PM
Where are the side flares?
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on June 27, 2014, 10:51:14 AM
I have them painted. Only gonna do the front if I install them. I'll see about it when I get back. They may add too much to the car. If they do....I'm gonna leave them off and just use the center.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Jack on June 27, 2014, 11:25:52 AM
Personally I like Formula's without flares, very nice and clean look. But I would consider the center one only; I think I will install them on my 72 (the ones that Leigh had on his 71).
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on June 27, 2014, 11:54:32 AM
That's what I'm thinking. I'm also thinking that I might take the chin spoiler back off and smooth out the ends.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: fiream773 on June 27, 2014, 12:55:11 PM
I appreciate it. I'm hoping that it turns out the way I have it pictured in my head.

That's my approach, too - imagining how I want it to look and run, then trying to make the car match the vision.  Unfortunately, my imagination isn't bound by limited finances and talent!

Always think of 'Karate Kid" where Myagi tells Daniel-San how to prune Banzai trees - "Croze eye.  Think tree.  Think...   ONRY tree.  Open eye.  Make rook rike tree..."
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on June 27, 2014, 04:28:17 PM
I've got the motor trans and rear planned out in my head and written down. So I'm set there. What I mean when I say I have it pictured in my head is the stance, driveability, handling(which will take forever to get right with the Koni Adjustables), the power of the car. I'm tryin to make it an extremely well balanced car. I think I'm about there. 
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 72blackbird on July 02, 2014, 11:04:54 AM
I like the idea of using only a chin spoiler as opposed to a 3-piece T/A front spoiler, but using only the center section of the T/A spoiler doesn't look right- the ends are not tapered like the Camaro chin spoiler and designed to mate with the T/A side spoilers.

Anyone try an early Camaro chin spoiler?

Geno
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Jack on July 02, 2014, 11:10:54 AM
I'm not sure what Leigh used but his looked good.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on July 03, 2014, 08:20:02 AM
So how about it Leigh? Any pics?
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 72blackbird on July 04, 2014, 07:55:44 AM
Leigh is using the center section of a 70-73 T/A front spoiler too. I'm thinking if you made some tapered caps the spoiler wouldn't look so bad. I would try to do that myself, but I have T/A fenders on my Bird so I'm going to run the side spoilers when I do mount the T/A front spoiler.

Geno
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Bandit1 on July 07, 2014, 06:14:04 PM
Just went through here from beginning to end, your car has come a long way and it's turning out beautiful! Well deserved, thank you for your service and I hope you had a happy 4th of July!
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on July 07, 2014, 06:45:08 PM
Thanks. 4th wasn't bad. It's the 4th time I've been gone for the 4th of July and the 3rd of July for the anniversary of of 5 years of marriage.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: N PRGRES on February 07, 2015, 05:04:01 AM
Any updates on this?
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: mz-formula on February 07, 2015, 07:53:00 AM
First time seeing this one ... awesome work!!!

Also, ... Is that body cart something you made, or is that bought?  Just looking for options because that looks like exactly what I was thinking of doing.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on February 07, 2015, 10:04:21 AM
N PRGRES.

No updates on the car. Been sitting in the garage while I'm on a remote assignment. The seats are getting covered and the steering column rebuilt while I'm gone. Once I get back I'm pcs'ing, so it'll be a little while longer before I start anything again on the car.

mz-formula

The cart was made for the car.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on April 23, 2015, 02:03:08 PM
I'll be home on leave next week. I'll get you guys some updated pics.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on April 29, 2015, 01:52:42 PM
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/Mobile%20Uploads/20150429_122305_zpsbc92511f.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150429_122305_zpsbc92511f.jpg.html)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/Mobile%20Uploads/20150429_122331_zpsa3d1081b.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150429_122331_zpsa3d1081b.jpg.html)

Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: mz-formula on April 29, 2015, 06:37:07 PM
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/0023.jpg)

Hard to believe this is the same car.   Beautiful!!!
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on April 29, 2015, 07:10:34 PM
Thanks. I can't believe it either. I have a motor and trans in it, so hopefully the front suspension will start to settle down like it's supposed to. Pictures just don't do the red justice.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Brewster on April 30, 2015, 05:35:13 PM
Some transition for sure and that last pic is Crazy bad.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on May 09, 2015, 11:16:50 AM
Got the steering column installed. The guy at GM tilt did an awesome job. Looks great. I'll get a pic later today.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on May 10, 2015, 05:16:18 AM
Completely rebuilt top to bottom. New switches and anything else that had to be done. Left the steering wheel as is cause it gives it some character. Miss stuck the sticker on the horn button so I gotta redo it, but it's gonna have to wait. Heading back outta town.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/Mobile%20Uploads/20150509_124009_zps2aeec3b1.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150509_124009_zps2aeec3b1.jpg.html) (http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/Mobile%20Uploads/20150509_124028_zps4952c67a.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150509_124028_zps4952c67a.jpg.html) (http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/Mobile%20Uploads/20150509_124043_zps41d6b058.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150509_124043_zps41d6b058.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Brewster on May 10, 2015, 06:19:41 AM
I think I have something to help this build. PM me your ship to address and I'll send it over next weekend. Cheers
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on May 10, 2015, 07:45:46 AM
Ok. I'll be back stateside again in June so I'll check it out then. Thanks. If you're looking for something. Let me know. I've got access to allot of stuff.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Brewster on May 11, 2015, 12:49:30 PM
I have a part for you and that steering wheel. No charge shipping is even free just let me know were to send it??
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on May 11, 2015, 01:32:35 PM
Sent you a PM.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 1971bird on May 14, 2015, 12:38:47 PM
Nice Car! Great job on the restore, can't imagine what you have into the bird $$ wise. Looks great, I'm thinking of the same idea for the front spoiler. I like the look of the 68/69 Camaro spoilers but I don't think they fit without modification. They are cheaper however. I want to get the look of the old trans am racing cars, but without using the TA flares I guess. I think you could taper that spoiler easily, then wrap it in 3m carbon fiber, it would complement the rim tire package you have. But, the red looks great too!

Congrats on the work, looks great.

I think we are in the same business, but working for different companies. I noticed that oar in the background of your garage, thanks for doing what you do. After 20 years in this business, i know the difficulties of balancing the family, travel, and hobbies. Good job, keep doing what your doing and thanks for the updates!
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on May 14, 2015, 01:26:32 PM
I have less than 12k tied into it so far. By the time all said and done I'll be in it for about 22-24k. Thanks. I can't wait to get it done.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on June 10, 2015, 04:38:16 PM
Figured out the rims. Gonna run 17x9.5's up front and 17x11's in back. Torque Thrust II's with the center cap from FbodyWarehouse. I think that'll be the perfect wheel for the car.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on June 22, 2015, 05:15:16 PM
Found the pair of torque thrust 2's I bought for my 3rd Gen a few years ago in my attic. Forgot they were there, so I dragged them down. 17x11s. Thought they had a 6 1/2 inch backspacing and need 6 inch to fit. Looked them over and the sticker is still on them telling the info on them. 6 1/4. So I need to come up with a little space and they'll go on just right. The rotor is not installed, so it should be real close when done. The leaf spring to the rim is right at 3/8s gap. Same with the shock. The other spot may need a little trim, but we shall see when I get there. Otherwise I'll back it down to 9 1/2s all the way around.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/Mobile%20Uploads/20150618_191416_zps78926ddd.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150618_191416_zps78926ddd.jpg.html)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/Mobile%20Uploads/20150617_180708_zpsb4c9fec4.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150617_180708_zpsb4c9fec4.jpg.html)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/Mobile%20Uploads/20150617_180701_zps3841d893.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150617_180701_zps3841d893.jpg.html)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/Mobile%20Uploads/20150617_180620_zpsf1ea1133.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150617_180620_zpsf1ea1133.jpg.html)

Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on August 15, 2015, 07:58:56 PM
17x11s are a no go. Only because they stick out of the wheel well too much. Probably gonna sell them here soon.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on November 01, 2015, 07:24:37 PM
Well. I got the March pulley kit for my car. The 13105-08. Parts look great. Instructions are difficult/challenging even with the pictures and the pics are kinda vague to understand. So I kinda " winged it " and guessed. I only needed the kit for the alternator and power steering. Got it mostly done today, but ran into a big snag. The instructions have 2 ways to run the belt depending on how you route it. If you're running a fan off the water pump you need a 66 inch belt and 69 inch belt if not. Well I'm running a fan off the water pump. So I get a 66 inch belt. Doesn't fit. Belt is too long. So I've been back and forth to the parts stores trying to find a belt most of the day. Gonna be looking again tomorrow for a belt. Hopefully I can find. So far I'm not happy with anything but the looks of the parts. I'm not even sure the alt is lining up with the rest of the pulleys.

Found a belt. Went to a 65 inch belt. Still not impressed. There's not really a way to tighten the belt. The idler pulley has an adjustment and the alt has an adjustment. Had to adjust the idler to where I thought the belt would be tight. Force the belt on the idler. The rod that's "suppose" to tighten the belt doesn't really tighten the belt. Also with the movement of the power steering pump. Need to a different pressure hose. Hopefully I can make the low side work. Also noticed that there's an extra bolt that instructions don't really tell me where it goes. Think I would've been better sticking with the original stuff.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on November 21, 2015, 05:48:46 PM
Ok. Here we go. Called March to get it figured out. Help was great. Think his name was Doug. We went through it and come to find out the instructions are for the old design. Once we figured that out. It's good now. The the extra bolt I had went into the back of the pump where the stud was. The belt routing used now is for the 69 inch belt setup. One the belt is installed the idler is adjusted so the belt is snug. Then the alternator is used to tighten the belt. Now for the power steering hoses. I had to use a 90 degree fitting right off the gear box and run it a little different for the low pressure side. The high pressure side I had to get a 45 degree fitting off the gearbox and a 90 off the pump. Everything seems to be back on track for the bird.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/Mobile%20Uploads/20151121_154254_zpskjwiceed.jpeg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151121_154254_zpskjwiceed.jpeg.html) (http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/Mobile%20Uploads/20151121_154308_zpsvaqeerwf.jpeg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151121_154308_zpsvaqeerwf.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on November 02, 2016, 09:01:11 PM
I do have updates to the car, but it'll be this weekend before I get the pics and info up.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on January 24, 2017, 08:52:06 PM
Sorry for the long delay. Lot's going on here. So here goes.

Finally got the brakes done and while I was bleeding them I wasn't getting any pressure to the rear even though I was getting fluid. Took the master back off and set it level. Lot's of air in the back half of the cylinder. Once the air was gone. What a difference.

I rebuilt the trans. Ran into a bunch of problems with that. First it was during assembly that the two shift pins broke as I was putting them back in. That was fun getting the trans taken back apart to remove them for new. Went to put the tail housing on and remembered that I still needed to add the location for the speed sensor, so material was added and a the hole was machined. Then went to put the tail housing on again and notice the bearing was gone. Went to get another, but it was discontinued across the board. Found a bearing that does the job and machined it out to fit. Trans is finally back together. Won't go it until I get the clutch kit.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/20170124_194138_zpselacfnsy.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/20170124_194138_zpselacfnsy.jpg.html)

Had the dash bezel restored. Looks awesome! Nothing more that can be said about it.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/20170124_190621_zps2oroocvw.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/20170124_190621_zps2oroocvw.jpg.html)
Got my front seats finished up. Look and feel great! Can't wait to actually sit in it while driving instead of a temp gaming chair.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/20170124_190846_zpsgjvdnlui.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/20170124_190846_zpsgjvdnlui.jpg.html)

Everything is slow right now due to funds and snow on the ground here in Great Falls, Mt, but the next projects are what wheels, fuel system, cooling system, and diff. That'll be a little bit though.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on January 24, 2017, 09:15:39 PM
I forgot to add. I figured out why the nose is still high. The front springs are wrong,so I ordered the correct ones and they'll go in one the trans is back in.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on February 23, 2017, 08:30:42 PM
The Summit Racing fairy showed up to my house today and left me something.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/20170223_183720_zps1ydy2hmh.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/20170223_183720_zps1ydy2hmh.jpg.html)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/20170223_185331_zpsa45psyyv.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/20170223_185331_zpsa45psyyv.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on March 10, 2017, 08:53:53 PM
Been a few days since I last updated. Got off work early today, so I got a few things done. Finally got the rear seat done. That was a fun chore to get them covered and installed, but they look good. Not a big empty spot anymore. Got the dash panel installed with the trim rings too. Looks awesome. Thanks Rcombs. Also spent most of the afternoon getting the left front spring swapped out. Tomorrow I'll be getting the other side done. Got the trans installed last weekend. I'll probably be ordering the rims sometime next week. Might even have electrical about done too, but that is the most dreaded part of a restoration.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/20170301_184928_zpsnapsnb5w.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/20170301_184928_zpsnapsnb5w.jpg.html)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/20170305_191630_zpsdjlgdvfz.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/20170305_191630_zpsdjlgdvfz.jpg.html)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/20170303_195700_zps94ylooep.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/20170303_195700_zps94ylooep.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on March 17, 2017, 07:13:25 PM
Teaser pic till tomorrow.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/Mobile%20Uploads/20170317_132819_zpsaxolo2w0.jpeg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20170317_132819_zpsaxolo2w0.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on March 18, 2017, 09:38:58 PM
Finally back on the ground and ended up sitting perfect. Wheel gaps are great. The rims really stand out on the car. 17x9.5's. with 275/40/17 all the way around.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/20170318_161914_RichtoneHDR_zpsvxzqb3j9.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/20170318_161914_RichtoneHDR_zpsvxzqb3j9.jpg.html)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/20170318_182457_zpsuk90w8th.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/20170318_182457_zpsuk90w8th.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: cal30_sniper on March 18, 2017, 10:13:27 PM
Finally back on the ground and ended up sitting perfect. Wheel gaps are great. The rims really stand out on the car. 17x9.5's. with 275/40/17 all the way around.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/20170318_161914_RichtoneHDR_zpsvxzqb3j9.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/20170318_161914_RichtoneHDR_zpsvxzqb3j9.jpg.html)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/20170318_182457_zpsuk90w8th.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/20170318_182457_zpsuk90w8th.jpg.html)

Oh man, I've waited so long to see that. Looks spectacular! What's your plan on spoilers? Are you just doing the T/A front valance, or the wheel flares also?

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/muddy19/20170305_191630_zpsdjlgdvfz.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/muddy19/media/20170305_191630_zpsdjlgdvfz.jpg.html)

Really cool to see a console delete car. Not too many of those out there.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on March 19, 2017, 08:03:40 AM
I have been waiting a long time to see this bird on the ground with it's wheels. I only plan on the chin spoiler without the fender flares. Maybe later on I'll add the flares, but not for now. I like the console delete too. Just about all the others I've seen have one. My dad has a white 70 T/A that's console delete too.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71Firebird on March 21, 2017, 12:49:52 AM
Man this car came a long way!

Great work.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: NOT A TA on March 21, 2017, 07:29:24 AM
From a skeleton to a beautiful car! Well done!

I'm honored to see you chose a set of my center caps for the TT II's! They look really nice on there. For those following along looking at small screens on phones etc. here's a couple pics of the caps. There's info on what wheels they fit on the lab-14.com website now.

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff292/NOTATA/RAD%20CAPZ%20Wheel%20Nutz/WheelNutzonThe14Carshoot1017.jpg) (http://s240.photobucket.com/user/NOTATA/media/RAD%20CAPZ%20Wheel%20Nutz/WheelNutzonThe14Carshoot1017.jpg.html)

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff292/NOTATA/RAD%20CAPZ%20Wheel%20Nutz/WheelNutzpromophotoshoot026.jpg) (http://s240.photobucket.com/user/NOTATA/media/RAD%20CAPZ%20Wheel%20Nutz/WheelNutzpromophotoshoot026.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71Firebird on March 22, 2017, 12:02:35 AM
Yeah, those center caps look sweet on the wheels! 
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on March 23, 2017, 05:23:00 PM
Update for electrical. Fuse's. Great falls has been a challenge for many parts for my car at orielly's, napa, and car quest. Their are parts that I expect to order, but yesterday I went looking for fuses for the car. They have to order the glass tube fuses in the packs with 5 of one type at $5 a pop. Variety packs cannot be located through them, so I have to order them from Amazon. That's pretty sad. Spent $8 on a variety pack from Amazon. Be great if there was an adapter to go from the glass tube fuses to the blade style.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 05, 2017, 08:30:13 AM
Its been awhile since I've done an update. Got the car out for a decent cruise. I took a pic of it while out. Hopefully this works for the upload instead of photobucket.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/x2nLYDBEDqN9yqcr2
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Elz on October 05, 2017, 08:35:51 AM
Very nice ride.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 05, 2017, 11:20:23 AM
Thanks. I'll get more pics up this weekend and a bunch of info on it too.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on March 19, 2018, 08:14:21 PM
Hello to everyone. I know it's been awhile for me to update my car. I got the exhaust done on the car. Very similar to the optional 69 Z/28 exhaust system. Sounds really good and dirty. Might put a pair of resonator's on it to tone it down from the drone that it has. Here's some pics of the system.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GOE...ew?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11aK...ew?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RO2...ew?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PQl...ew?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WYi...ew?usp=sharing


I have been driving the car around town and enjoying the car. Converted the car to EFI with FiTech. Was working on tuning the timing control before I deployed. Converted the HEI to be able to be controlled by the FiTech. Works really good. I think I advance the timing a little much, so when I get back I'll be starting back at 0 on the timing.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CwF...ew?usp=sharing
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Aus78Formula on March 19, 2018, 10:02:34 PM
those links are dead
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on March 20, 2018, 04:21:23 AM
Alright. I'll try again later with new pics.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on March 21, 2018, 07:17:00 AM
Let's try this again.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/gXkUIPOmJaXMTqIK2

https://photos.app.goo.gl/kUpJvub87TQ8X12E2

https://photos.app.goo.gl/z7prMSJfzcNyNSat2

https://photos.app.goo.gl/QN5babvrPId3shKz2

https://photos.app.goo.gl/wwda10Q631Reb6TU2


https://photos.app.goo.gl/B7Y6iy5DmCenucy42
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: SP Steve on March 22, 2018, 10:57:19 PM
Beautiful car.  I really like your exhaust ideas!! My car has the transverse muffler and I don't like how it sounds and was thinking of traditional below the floor pan mounting for mufflers, but your idea of mounting 2 mufflers in the same location as the factory muffler is genius!

Ben, are those mufflers Classic Chambered Power Sticks?

Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on March 29, 2018, 11:36:44 AM
Beautiful car.  I really like your exhaust ideas!! My car has the transverse muffler and I don't like how it sounds and was thinking of traditional below the floor pan mounting for mufflers, but your idea of mounting 2 mufflers in the same location as the factory muffler is genius!

Ben, are those mufflers Classic Chambered Power Sticks?

Yes. They are classic chambered. I'm going to add a pair of resonators to my system when i get back from deployment.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 31, 2018, 09:29:54 AM
Hey y'all. I'm back stateside. Thought I'd post a video of the before and after of my exhaust. The first video is before the resonators are installed. Second is with the resonators installed. It toned it down. Idle sounds pretty close to before, but the drone is just about gone.

Before resonators:
https://youtu.be/m0g9xC2kkGc

After resonators:
https://youtu.be/0R8t8qA91O0
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on September 14, 2019, 03:05:28 PM
Hey yall. It's been awhile. Was having problems with efi. So i thought.
RIP....1971 455HO block.
 I noticed the paint on cylinder 2 exhaust port was barely coming off and sounded like it was knocking. The knocking was up high in the block. Took a laser temp reader and it was way down on temp compared to the other cylinders. Went to do a compression test and the cylinder did not make compression, so i put air to the cylinder and it was blowing right past the rings into the crank case. Took a bore scope and it has weird markings in the cylinder. Pulled both heads and each cylinder is having issues. Couple of them look as if the piston was contacting the walls. I can rock the pistons in the cylinders on the wrist pin in the cylinder. Almost as if the piston is too small for the bore. Pitting on the walls also. Soooooo. Now what shall i do? Ls swap with an lsa blower, rebuild this shortblock, or order a shortblock ready to go. One thing for sure is it will be faster and better than before.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Nexus on September 14, 2019, 07:25:08 PM
Cool build, I just went through it!!

the decision kinda depends on time and money. If you have the cash but no time them a ready to go engine is the way to go.

If you have lots of time and little money then stretching the cost of a rebuild over a long period (not 20 years like me), might be best.

any choice you make will be good and LS swaps are becoming more frequent everyday!!

I look forward to your decision!!
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on September 16, 2019, 11:56:17 AM
Time is not a big issue with me. Money is not that big of an issue for me either. With that.... I've made a decision and it should be here in the next 2 or 3 weeks. I think it'll be perfect. Yall will have to wait.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Nexus on September 18, 2019, 03:25:11 PM
Time is not a big issue with me. Money is not that big of an issue for me either. With that.... I've made a decision and it should be here in the next 2 or 3 weeks. I think it'll be perfect. Yall will have to wait.

Wait...always waiting...ok ok...I'll wait in anticipation and look forward to the outcome!!!  :D
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on September 27, 2019, 10:00:45 AM
Just got word. Motor is doing it today. Should be here by next Friday.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Jack on September 28, 2019, 04:21:28 AM
Haven't checked out your post in a while, but where do I start... everything looks beautiful, but I really like the seats.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on September 28, 2019, 11:47:09 AM
Haven't checked out your post in a while, but where do I start... everything looks beautiful, but I really like the seats.

Thanks. It's been an awesome build for me and getting better.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 08, 2019, 07:12:49 PM
Hey. I finally got my new motor. Can't wait to get it back on the road again. Here's a few teaser pics. Came from TN for the hint. I'll be posting up this weekend with info of the motor and more pics.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1--rc8lhK4Ll2Bl9YBcSziQVCO0wdLWjm

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1bwUnEI9HgIGVqs5984rqn-FCFQ16GOMO

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-75ghQEgnvBJscqPG4OcrnxL9oohwhx2
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Nexus on October 09, 2019, 09:00:20 PM
Teaser to say the least
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Aus78Formula on October 09, 2019, 10:12:30 PM
Crate engine...Porsche Box-er.
Is the Tennessee factory something from the last few years...
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 10, 2019, 09:48:44 AM
A twin turbo flat 6 in a trans am might be pretty cool, but no.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 13, 2019, 08:12:36 AM
Here we go.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-JQOC0Nri9PYBYrPCmC51dSPR4z_Mdtu/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-C5cPhSLND4rZqGieo2ndne7bV2MrACH/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-LOnaxS8DXMaQQ7Nyh2uTy8MyzSrltYZ/view?usp=drivesdk

I went with a Butler built shortblock. It's a 455 block. 30 over with a 4.250 stroke, forged h beam rods and pistons. Total of 468 cubic inches. The green cord you see is to keep the motor in place till i get the trans back in place. Can't wait to get it going again and see how this car runs when it's firing on all 8 with full compression.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 21, 2019, 01:39:39 PM
Good afternoon all. This has been the most annoying engine swap i have ever done. First the timing cover needed heli coils where it meets up with the oil pan. Then the oil pan wouldn't line up with the timing cover. Balance needed extra work to pull onto the eagle crank. Hopefully it pulled all the way down. When i went to install the trans; it would not turn, so it wouldn't spline into the clutch, so i had to tear it apart and put new cover shaft bearings on. Now the trans is waiting to be installed so i can finish everything else. It's been one of those kinds of builds this time.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Nexus on October 24, 2019, 08:05:52 PM
These things always seem to happen!!!

It can make a project so darn frustrating but dont let up. The results will speak for themselves when you get the bugs worked out of it!!!
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 25, 2019, 10:52:55 AM
These things always seem to happen!!!

It can make a project so darn frustrating but dont let up. The results will speak for themselves when you get the bugs worked out of it!!!

I'm not gonna let up. Just gets annoying at times.

More about the trans and the counter shaft bearings. Put new bearings on and pt the case together and the problem was still there. Pulled it back apart and started staring at everything. Noticed something weird about the counter shaft. It had some weird markings on it. Come to find out the plug that is removed to check preloads was threaded so far in that it was contacting the countershaft. Backed it out and fixed everything. Hopefully I'll be staying and breaking in the new shortblock this weekend.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Nexus on October 29, 2019, 04:51:20 AM
Cool that you found that issue!!

Now back to making it run!!
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 29, 2019, 01:13:35 PM
New problems. 2 to be exact. Got the motor running. Definitely runs different and better than the last. Does rev allot easier and quicker, so it'll be interesting once i get to drive it for real. During the initial run and looking for leaks. 1st. Found a leak. Where the oil pan meets the timing cover and block; it is leaking from there. 2nd. When i was cleaning up the garage i found a washer that seemed familiar. So i sent a pic of it to tick performance and low and behold. I have to drop the trans. Again. ????????????????
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Nexus on October 30, 2019, 11:17:07 PM
My Gawd!!!

What did they say the washer was off of?
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 31, 2019, 10:32:14 AM
My Gawd!!!

What did they say the washer was off of?

It's one of the thrust washers in the tail housing portion. Not too bad, but annoying that i have to drop it out to put it in there.

New problem cropped up yesterday. Was running the motor to do some more break in and have the base timing set at 13 degrees. Crack the throttle; comes back down to idle and the timing is off. Arg. More troubleshooting. Seems this time the build is if it ain't one thing it's another.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Nexus on October 31, 2019, 04:58:09 PM
Sounds very much how my life goes all the time!!
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 31, 2019, 05:46:58 PM
Now it's gotten more interesting. I hook up a timing light to cylinder 1 and I'm at 13 degrees along with cylinder's 3 and 6. The others are all over the place.  :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Nexus on October 31, 2019, 06:25:48 PM
Now it's gotten more interesting. I hook up a timing light to cylinder 1 and I'm at 13 degrees along with cylinder's 3 and 6. The others are all over the place.  :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

hmmmm
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on October 31, 2019, 06:43:24 PM
Found a crack in the distributor cap on the #8 terminal. Gonna get a new cap and rotor kit to fix that part. Maybe that'll fix the whole thing. Otherwise I have no clue after that.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Nexus on October 31, 2019, 09:24:03 PM
That'll certainly cause some issues. Fingers crossed it solves that problem
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on November 01, 2019, 04:42:18 PM
Did not fix the problem. Back to the drawing board.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on November 01, 2019, 05:15:50 PM
Tried a new control module and it made no difference.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Nexus on November 02, 2019, 09:01:52 PM
Dumb question time....Would the wrong cam in this cause some of the issues you're having?
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on November 03, 2019, 01:47:56 PM
Dumb question time....Would the wrong cam in this cause some of the issues you're having?

No dumb questions. Just having bad days and over thinking things. Gonna work on my thinking curve next.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on December 06, 2019, 03:30:08 PM
Finally figured out my problem. The whole time the plug gaps were wrong. Regapped them to .45 and everything works perfectly.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Nexus on December 09, 2019, 12:42:58 PM
simple enough solution...glad you figured it out and it's taken care of

what's the next thing to fix/tweak?
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: 71455formula on December 09, 2019, 01:04:35 PM
Well. This past weekend i pulled the trans out to install the thrust washer i forgot to install. Well..... during reassembly and pressing the speedometer tone ring on.... it blew apart. So now i need to pull it back apart in a few weeks. I did put new axle bearings in and put a moser diff cover on. Might need to have the exhaust adjusted for clearance. Next weekend I'll be doing an upgrade. It'll be an awesome upgrade. I'll post up everything this weekend.
Title: Re: 71 Formula
Post by: Nexus on December 09, 2019, 10:23:08 PM
I look forward to what's coming!!